@flozen said in OIC soft on animal abuse:

@raphjd Punching a horse -- what an awful thing to do -- they should have booked that coach a flight home the next morning.

I'm not a horse owner and haven't spent much time around them, but I was invited to the Belmont Stakes this year and I enjoyed everything -- except the whipping of the horses, particularly down the home stretch.

Certainly it must hurt to some degree. If they prohibited whipping, wouldn't all riders still have an equal chance? It would probably mean fewer new time records, I could easily live with that.

The whipping -- it would be hard to change something that's been part of that sporting culture for centuries. But for comparison, the much worse cruelty of bullfighting is being slowly wiped off the planet, so these positive changes can be realized.

I agree with both of you that animal cruelty should have no place in "SPORT" - but as someone who has ridden horses (tho certainly not in any kind of competition), I can say that there are legitimate uses for the riding crop (it's more of a flexible stick than a whip)... and within those limits, there is virtually never any injury to the horse.

Skipping ahead: sadly, as much as I'd like to agree with @flozen that Spanish-Style Bull-Fighting is "slowly being wiped off the planet", it is just not the case - and this is far from the first time the "sport" (and I use the term lightly and hesitatingly) has come under fire. (See ancient Popes & Kings in Iberia!) Unlike horse-racing, rodeo, or Olympic modern pentathlon: the bull virtually never survives, and neither is its death in anything even approaching a humane manner.

So, back to the Olympics: Let me say ahead of time that I do not agree with what the coach did, but your characterization here - without details - is more inflammatory than it deserves to be... and your castigation of the IOC (or even Tokyo Olympic Organizing Committee) is misplaced.

The sport in question here is "Modern Pentathlon" - and in this event, the horse and rider are literally introduced to each other just prior to the event. The point of the event is for the human contestant to bond with the new* horse, and complete a set of tasks in the ring.

The German rider in question here was leading in the event up to this moment, the last of 10 parts... but the horse she drew just wasn't having it! The rider was (clearly visible in the video) crying badly, and that was also upsetting the horse (making a failing situation worse, and making a horse "in trouble" literally fearful of its surroundings.

In the part of the video I saw on YouTube (from a German source, not the Twitter link above, although it is also in German), the crying rider was having GREAT difficulty controlling the horse... clearly sobbing, she was kicking and otherwise TRYING to "subdue" the upset horse. In a few seconds, it (the horse) came over to the edge of the arena - where the coach was screaming at her (the rider) to strike the horse HARD - and then, she (the coach) reached over the fence and "punched" the horse on the hind quarter. Not particularly hard, but enough to spook the horse even more.

If you know anything about horses, you have to know that at that point, the chances of that horse, in that moment, coming under full-control of that rider... was nil. Absolute nil. Had the person who struck the horse been the actual trainer or owner of the horse in question, the outcome might have been different: horses WANT to please their humans! But these two (rider and coach) were both new to the horse, and their approach/reaction by this point was just doomed.

Still, both the coach and the rider were literally watching their Olympic dreams go up in smoke - in their minds, because of this horse (side note, though not altogether germane: the horse, named Saint Boy, had reacted similarly to another rider the day before... so, there is something to be said about their Olympic Dreams being lost to the "luck of the draw"...)

Nevertheless, the coach got in trouble for many infractions:

• encouraging the rider to over-use the crop on the horse
• reaching into the arena to interfere with the horse or rider during the "ride"
• touching the horse (much less hitting it) during the "ride"

The German coach was expelled from the Tokyo Olympics for her violations - not by the IOC (because that's not how the Olympics works!), but by the UIPM - the world governing body for the sport of Modern Pentathlon.

It is the role of each sport's international governing body to "police" their events and their participants - and the UIPM did so, quickly and firmly - issuing what the sport calls a "black card" to the coach - expelling her from the entire competition, and subjecting her to "further review" by the sport aftweward.

Additionally, world-wide media outlets have been pretty tough on both the coach and the rider... who, unsurprisingly, failed to medal in spite of her lead up to that point.

So, if you watch the video, the horse was not "abused" by the "punch" of the coach, so much as by the rider and circumstances overall. It was a bad situation made worse by the humans to be sure, but the horse was not injured by the "punch" - and it clearly wasn't the intent of the coach to injure the horse - though, as someone "just a little" familiar with horses, I could legitimately ask "what was she thinking?"...

And, to also be clear: I do not support the actions of the humans in this incident... but, this is not what the original posting represented itself to be, and the blaming of the IOC (which actually does not have jurisdiction) is just plain wrong.

@raphjd said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:

@bi4smooth

Umm, it was the WHO and China that played politics. Maybe you were too busy in Chinatown with Pelosi back then.

It's still strange that you claim to be a libertarian, yet you demand hivemind crap.

LOL - hivemind is what you propose, with your deep state conspiracies! (As-if all 2.2 million Federal Employees are united in their opposition to your wacky ideas! The truth is, there are 2.2 million unique minds in the US Federal Employment database... and about the same ratio are Democrat/Republican as the nation is divided as a whole.)

If actual Governments (of all kinds) were only HALF as competent as you propose the deep state is, there would be no hunger in this world - and no freedom (Governments - of all kinds, even Democracies - are tools to control people).

In the REAL WORLD Governments are inherently, and incurably incompetent. To find a Government that is not, is to find a Government so small as to be insignificant.

Does that mean we shouldn't expect more? no... just that we shouldn't be surprised when Governments do dumb things...

And, more importantly, while not always the case, certainly it is usually the case that when Governments do dumb things, it's due to incompetence and mismanagement, not conspiracies....

@raphjd said in YouTube suspends Sky News Australia:

@bi4smooth

You are a liberal because you worship liberal policies.

As always, you are high as hell on Pelosi's panty fumes.

And you are a fascist, nazi trumpite because you think He is all-but-infallible, should rule with absolute authority, and others who disagree should be "canceled" (even jailed!)....

@raphjd said in CDC now says Vaccinated are the ones spreading the new Delta variant.:

@bi4smooth

Fauci is a proven liar.

The WHO, CDC, and NIH are all purely political.

I can't get my hand fixed, because of C-19, despite my area having very low numbers. No matter how much pain I am in, the NHS says I need to fuck off because of C-19. Our local hospital is far from overflowing with C-19 patients, but people are being told that we need to fuck off until C-19 is over and even then it will take "many, many years" until things get back on track.

The temporary "Nightengale hospitals" were empty and people were arrested and prosecuted for videoing them showing they were empty, despite government claims of how full they were.

Even the Mayo Clinic is saying that getting the vaccine will prevent you from getting C-19. Clearly, it's a blatant lie.

The WHO isn't preventing you from getting your "hand fixed" - that's the British NHS, and that's a totally different argument. Perhaps the United (really? ask Scotland about that) Kingdom should look to their former colonies for better plans (both Canada and AU do it better)

As for there being pop-up hospitals that are empty, you shouldn't confuse incompetence and mismanagement with a conspiracy to mis-inform.

As for the Mayo Clinic, I can say with certainty (because my daughter is a patient) that they are not claiming that the COVID-19 vaccines prevent the COVID-19 virus - they ARE saying that the COVID-19 vaccines prevent serious illness from the COVID-19 virus.

I posted elsewhere about this: only a complete moron would believe that a vaccine could prevent the virus from getting into your body... there is no "barrier", just an immune system (your immune system) that is pre-prepared to fight the virus when it gets inside you.

The same as every other vaccine discovered by mankind

This is also why vaccines do not help protect immune-compromized people (like many cancer patients): they have either no immune system, or one not strong enough to make the vaccine effective.

So for all you anti-vaxxers in South Carolina (US), my aunt's leukemia-fighting husband (I don't consider him an uncle - I barely know him) has a message for you: F--K YOU and Thanks for nothing! He's been on "lockdown" for what will far-too-soon be a second year now, thanks the the recurring waves of COVID-19, and his inability to get a vaccine that would work for his immune system (or what's left of it). He has 2 new grandchildren he has only seen by video, and fears he will never EVER see in person....

yeah, this isn't always a macro-health issue, sometimes it gets rather personal...

@raphjd said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:

@bi4smooth

Umm, your party has made it political.

Mayor Beetlejuice is "kicking it" with celebs, unmasked while demanding that everyone else wear masks. Well, unless they want to riot and loot under the banner of BLM and Antifa, that is. If they want to peacefully protest against the mask mandates and lockdowns, your beloved police get out the heavy gear to crush the dissent.

DNC mayors, Govs, etc across the country are doing the same kinds of shit. DC's mayor did that massive unmasked wedding.

Your queen bee, Pelosi, while screeching about lockdowns and mask mandates sneaks off to get her hair done. Once caught, she claims she was tricked by the salon into doing it and she is 3rd in line to run the country.

Rules for thee, but not for me.

Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin, and countless other Dems have been photoed/videoed wearing the World Economic Forum's "Build Back Better" lapel pin. They have even made speeches in front of the BBB banner.

You see similar things across Europe, as well.

Covid-19 is purely political across the globe.

As a Fascist, NAZI, Trumpite, you have a predictably infantile knowledge about parts of the world that are not English-speaking! (For the record: I am no more a Democrat than you are a NAZI - but so long as we're slinging "extremist" labels...)

To be clear: The US is the origin of the politicization of modern medicine & more importantly public health. That "poison" has affected other countries - but mostly (though, certainly not limited to) English-speaking ones.

But many countries have avoided this poison: S. Korea, Japan (trying to avoid the Communist/Milary-controlled governments here - that's not fair: they don't fight against the Gov't because doing so is usually lethal), New Zealand, large swaths of Africa, and most of Northern & Eastern Europe - all have no significant political in-fighting about vaccines (except getting them faster) or masks.

We (Americans) are the stupid ones making this a political thing

And we are infecting the rest of the world with our stupidity...

So I'll say it again:

• Wear masks, or don't...
• Get a vaccine, or don't...
• either way, you are participating in a Darwin-esque change (edit) to the Human Genome... and removing the genes of the incredibly gullible and otherwise stupid from the Human Genome shouldn't be considered all bad...

@raphjd said in YouTube suspends Sky News Australia:

@bi4smooth

Trump is not the first Repub that I voted for. Sorry to burst your fake Repub bubble.

I voted for Repubs if they weren't homophobes. I never voted for a homophobe. I voted for Repubs as my US Rep.

Just because I don't like scumbag warhawks, doesn't make me a liberal. Hell, you and Peolsi are warhawks. Maybe you should start the Warhawks Swampies political party and see how many from both parties join.

Does your brother drink the DNC Koolaide, like you, that Honest Joe is the "good" guy?

OH! So, you can choose to vote non-Republican and still consider yourself a Republican, but if I choose to vote non-Trump, I can no longer be a Republican...

As long as I understand the rules.

As a Fascist, NAZI, Trumpite - I should have expected nothing less.

Aside: Quick question: in the 80's, 90's and 2000's, the Dems all claimed we (Republicans) were the warhawks (or worse, war-mongers!)... now it's our turn? Your warhawk claims against non-Trumpites are historically and factually ignorant.

Finally, as I made clear in my earlier post: my brother is an anarchist. But to clarify for you even more: if Biden was "creating havoc and chaos" and making all the "corrupt politicians pull their hair out", then my brother would be for him. Actually, he (my brother) was quite disappointed in Trump: he thought he'd "sold out" in the end... that Trump had "started being just another corrupt politician" by the end of the 2020 campaign. He (my brother) chose not to vote in 2020 (like he used to do, before 2016). Who knows how many others like him there are...

@raphjd said in YouTube suspends Sky News Australia:

I have noticed that our resident fake conservative has derailed this conversation in order to protect his beloved "big tech" from being criticized for being politically biased.

The topic, he doesn't want us talking about, is that YouTube suspended Sky News Australia for posting factual news, at the time of posting, but has now changed according to the WHO, CDC, and whatnot.

YouTube has not done this with liberal outlets that posted the same stuff.

So, why is SNA guilty of spreading false information, the same information that liberal outlets posted at the time, but the liberal outlets are not equally guilty?

SNA posted the "correct" info as the "facts" changed, just like liberal media outlets.

Typical liberal hypocrisy.

As a Fascist, Nazi, Trumpite, you should know by now that I am not the straw-man you're looking for...

I know this will be a shock to our outside readers, but to make sure it is clear:

I, personally, have no role in the decision-making in Google-owned YouTube

With that out of the way, let's look at the facts:

• Sky News Australia was not banned from YouTube. What really happened is that one channel of the network was suspended from YouTube for one week for claiming that COVID-19 in Australia "was not serious" and that "lockdowns have not worked."

NOTE: It's hard to find reliable, factual sources for the exact content of the video(s) that triggered the action (called a "strike" by YouTube - it takes 3 strikes in a 90-day period to get you actually banned!)

This would be the equivalent of YouTube temporarily blocking a YouTube re-broadcast of Tucker Carlson (sorry, I'm just picking on him because I know it will inflame @raphjd LOL) for a week.

Sky News Australia is a cable news channel (owned by the same parent company as Fox News in the US, and closely affiliated with the British Sky News network - all Murdoch-family owned outlets).

Losing access to YouTube is far from "canceling" the channel... they still have a small handful of cable-tv (and because things are different in Australia) over-the-air viewers... (he said sarcastically)...

IMHO, YouTube is treating this as a public-health issue, not a free-speech or political one. (Akin to the traditional: yelling FIRE in a crowded theater is illegal because of the extreme danger to public health, not because of a desire to stifle speech about rapid, incandescent, oxidation.)

What's more, by treating Sky News Australia the same as the guy in his garage claiming that "the vaccines are re-programming your DNA so that the deep-state can read your thoughts" - is far less hypocritical than ignoring it - because it's a large news outlet - would have been.

@raphjd said in CDC: 397 Children Suffered Heart Inflammation After COVID-19 Vaccine:

@hubrys

AH, so the change was fairly recent.

I mean, they for some reason, could not make it clear for the previous year.

Let's not forget that the WHO has also played politics with C-19.

I'm sorry, but your characterization of the NIH, CDC, and WHO as making many of their public-health decisions based entirely for political reasons is myopic, cynical as f**k, and hyperbolic. - In other words, just like most of your other preposterous claims! LOL

All 3 of these organizations are primarily staffed (though not necessarily LED) by SCIENTISTS who are seeking facts and truth, not political points. The politicians they support are the ones that give them the money to do their research. Most of these scientists are so focused on the science - not the politics. And sometimes they actually DO overlook the bad ways their discoveries can be used - because to them, knowledge is the goal... the ONLY goal.

I will repeat: the Moderna mRNA technology was being developed pre-COVID-19 as a potential treatment or vaccine against HIV. That research continues, and so - with the extreme success rate seen with the re-tooling for COVID-19 - the hope for something that works as a defense against HIV is there and palpable.

Of course, those results will be politicized - but while the politicians argue, the scientists will go back to work figuring out the NEXT BIG THING.... because that is what they do!

@raphjd said in CDC Eviction Moratoriums are illegal says US Supreme Court:

@hubrys

Stop being a clown.

Trump did not go against the SCOTUS ruling on EMs, Biden did.

Until your dying breath, you are going to blame Trump for everything.

You keep proving you are nothing but a total political hack.

Once again, since you are a liberal.

SCOTUS ruled on the case AFTER Trump was in office.

Biden decided to violate that ruling.

@raphjd You are such a tool of your right-wing conspiracy sources...

1 - There was no opinion in the case you constantly refer to here, just a finding that a specific law did not apply to a specific case. Nothing - nothing - was written to explain their finding, nor to create a precedent. The finding was that they couldn't agree to overturn the lower court, so with a 4-4 tie, the lower court (appeals court) ruling stood.

2 - With no explanation, there is no way to "interpret" the finding in the above case, except in the instance for which it was found. This is "unsettled law".

3 - It was Trump's CDC rule that was found to exceed what was authored in the original law - a law that has been re-written and re-passed since.
NOTE: It doesn't mean Trump's CDC rule was good or bad, just that their legal basis for their rule was an "overreach" in the eyes of an appeals court judge (or, possibly a panel)... and SCOTUS couldn't agree enough to say either way!

4 - Biden's CDC (which is arguably, the same as the Trump CDC) issued a new rule to stop evictions. I don't agree with the rule (as I noted: where the f**k are the landlords supposed to get the money to pay the taxes, mortgage, repairs, etc.?? Many of the landlords I'm speaking of are INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, not corporations with deep-pockets... in many cases, this was people's retirement plan - and not only is the cash flow gone, but the "principal" is too! They've been foreclosed on - in many cases by the TAX-MAN!)

5 - In response to an earlier post: NO, the NIH is not entirely political - but they have, in recent history, been dragged into political arguments. Also, as the HEAD of the CDC is a political appointee, there can sometimes be overlap.
That is a LONG WAY from being entirely political

Indeed, I would propose that the CDC (and NIH) are mostly a-political, but their findings get used by politicians when it suits them.

Is the new moratorium on evictions (for non-payment of rent due to COVID-19) a political rule? Or a public health one? If you asked me to, I could reasonably argue either way.

And that is the true nature of humanity - most things are NOT clear-cut, binary observations. There are usually nuances...

@up4 said in 3rd Capitol Cop who responded to 6 Jan commits suicide:

@raphjd That is very kind of you to say. But all my life's experience tells me otherwise. I'm one of those ungrateful angry gay misanthropes that still don't trust the state, the police, the people's majority or anyone pretending they have a say in how I live my life. Like you maybe, I don't know. But that anger almost killed me. I don't want to fit in anymore. I can't fit in anymore. I'm allergic to the city, to the very idea of being a citizen, of being in the world. I have to take medication to prevent my heart from litterally exploding when I'm exposed to the stupidity that drives the weaks' will to power. The best decision I ever made was to make a full Thoreau: run for my life to the woods as a hermit and only allow near me the very few men not afraid to think for themselves. Masturbation is a hermit's best friend in that it prevents him from giving his time and energy to the hordes of unworthy virgins that come begging for attention.

It is our loss - regardless of your point of view, you write well.

@raphjd said in CDC Eviction Moratoriums are illegal says US Supreme Court:

The US Supreme Court has previously ruled that eviction moratoriums are unconstitutional.

The non-political CDC, as liberals claim, has repeatedly violated this ruling. Anyone enforcing these illegal EM is also guilty of violating the constitution.

I would like to see a liberal justify this, without being a hypocrite.

Even Biden has said he doesn't think the CDC moratorium is legal... but, in spite of your supreme knowledge regarding US Constitutional Law (your awards on this subject are awe-inspiring and truly impressive), that doesn't mean that people who enforce the matter are violating the Constitution.

• You don't decide what is (and isn't) Constitutional
• I don't decide what is (and isn't) Constitutional
• Biden doesn't decide what is (and isn't) Constitutional

Judges (US Judges) decide what is (and isn't) Constitutional

And when different judges disagree, it goes eventually to the Supreme Court.

I wouldn't call this "settled law", but I would also say that the likelihood that it stands is very small. IMHO, they know this, and this is a "legal trick" to delay while the Congress is on Summer Break - the Dems are going to come back in the Fall and try to pass another eviction moratorium law. (Just what the F are the landlords supposed to do for money?)

However, until a judge rules it illegal (or unconstitutional), it is the law (ok, it's actually a rule/policy - not quite the force of law)...

@raphjd said in 3rd Capitol Cop who responded to 6 Jan commits suicide:

@bi4smooth

Your ID is like crack or meth to a cop.

They aren't interested in helping you, they want to criminalize you.

They are either liars or idiots when it comes to ID laws, despite ID laws are the most common laws police use.

In all but 4 states, you do not have to identify unless you are lawfully arrested. Most cops will unlawfully arrest you for not IDing.

"You are being suspicious" is not a crime, no matter what the pigs claim.

There was a shooting of a young woman, where the police hid the body cam and other evidence for over 2 years. This is not a one-off or an accident. It's a constant problem.

The FBI is extremely dirty, as we saw with the Hillary and Trump cases. Not only that, they have Absolute Immunity and fully believe they are above and beyond the law. Their "Professional Standards" is a fucking joke. You can break someone's arm because you don't like that that person is engaged in lawful activities.

You can be dirty as fuck and the world knows it, but you can always get another job at another PD.

Arizona's Brady law, while a good concept, is useless because dirty cops don't always get put on it, even for the most blatantly dirty one, and "good" cops quite often get put on it in retaliation for whistleblowing.

Policing is the 3rd most common profession for psychopaths, after law and medical.

It's not hard to find evidence of bad cops. But there are also some GOOD cops
But, yes: if you want to find pedophiles, look for jobs that put the sicko's in charge of children!

• teachers
• coaches
• summer camp counselors
• priests (specifically, youth pastors)
• Scout leaders (Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, you name it)

That doesn't mean they're all pedophiles, just that the jobs are going to be attractive to pedophiles!

Lots of pyromaniacs become firemen - and some of them actually become fire-starters!

And the same goes for bullies and psychopaths: they're drawn to professions where they are given power and authority over others:

• Policing
• Security Guards
• Social workers

You get the point...

• There are GREAT teachers out there.. but there are some pedophiles out there too
• There are GREAT firemen out there... but some are SETTING the very files they fight
• There are GREAT policemen out there... but there are some abusers out there too

@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:

@bi4smooth You are just lying. The facts are in.

Sydney Australia reported last week 141 people hospitalized with Covid, 140 were vaccinated.
Israel reported that 95% of the hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
Norway reported that 500 hospitalizations were all already vaccinated.
Singapore reported that 85% of hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
And these are the most vaccinated places on Earth. The same goes for Iceland and the State of Maine, the most vaccinated State in the US. You either are totally ignorant of the actual facts or you're just lying.

I think if you don't acknowledge these facts, you're just lying. You just don't know what you're talking about. Even if this virus does exist, the "experts" have claimed from the beginning that only .26% who CAN be infected (not the young) die. That's not a pandemic. That's just bullshit. More people die every year of tuberculosis, x1000 in fact. You acting like this is so doom and gloom and we all need to get vaccinated for something that's not even deadly is just ridiculous and theater. You are a drama queen and nobody gives a shit. You can take that jab and stick it right up your ass.

Not to mention Big Pharma is posting billions in profits. While small business suffers. They wouldn't lie! Get real. They have lied and been sued in court for billions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you had stock in these companies. they do not care about you or your family. They are not run by scientists. They are rum by corporate boards that only care about money. Quit being a dimwit cheerleader for those kinds of people.

Yup - The US health infrastructure is lying about the makeup of their ER's. If you look PAST the news reports, the ER's are empty and the ICUs are too... no COVID here really, it's just a SCAM to make money.

Really?

I don't know about other countries, but the 3 vaccines in the US are all purchased by the US Government. They funded the research (under the Trump Administration), and part of the funding agreements is this little clause: the US Government gets to buy all the vaccine it wants - AT COST. (Trump DOES know how to structure a contract for his own benefit!)

Maybe now you understand why the stock prices of Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J haven't gone through the roof!

As i stated in another thread: I'm tired of arguing about the politics here. This shouldn't be political, it should be medical.

Test or don't
Mask or don't
Vaccinate or don't

Choose the wrong one, and you will likely get sick and you may even DIE.
Go 3 for 3 and you've got a really good chance to not die.

Those who are dying in the US are nearly-all un-vaccinated. While they aren't polling, they stastically are mostly Republican voters.

Continuing to fight this politically... is political suicide for Republicans! not for political reasons, but for population reasons.... MATH reasons.

Mitch McConnell held a press conference and urged EVERYONE to get vaccinated!
Republican Governors are telling anti-vaxxers "You're the problem - this is your fault" (clearly not my Governor - Florida's Governor thinks this will all blow over... He's a moron, and despite his being a Republican, he deserves to lose next November)

@raphjd said in YouTube suspends Sky News Australia:

@bi4smooth

And yet, you have not seen a liberal policy that you won't defend.

You said that a Republican always votes for the Republican candidates, regardless. Then you proved that you aren't a Republican because you voted for Honest Joe, not the Republican candidate.

Being a liberal, I know you are too thick to get it.

I've never said you had to have a 100% Republican voting record to be a Republican... but I do think that if you're over 30 and the FIRST - nay, the ONLY - Republican Presidential Candidate you've ever voted for is Trump, then you're not a Republican, you're a Trumpite.

Those aren't mutually exclusive terms - many Republicans support Trump, but not all Trump supporters are actually Republicans.

Look, my older brother is a Trumpite - in part because he's an Anarchist (believes that ALL kinds of Government are inherently corrupt and bad.) He's not a Republican - and doesn't claim to be - but he still supports Trump (and also believes The Big Lie)... (you can't choose your family!)

I will also add: my brother also believes Trump is corrupt - he just appreciates that he's so open about it! But more importantly, he loves the chaos Trump caused (still causes?)

@raphjd said in CDC: 397 Children Suffered Heart Inflammation After COVID-19 Vaccine:

@bi4smooth

The WHO has said that NO ONE UNDER 18 should be given any of the current vaccines. We have discussed this here before. The WHO and the CDC/NIH conflict on this, so whose science do we follow? Ring any bells?

We talked about the guy who pioneered the mRNA vaccine who got scrubbed from LinkedIn for siding with the WHO, not the CDC.

Clearly, you have no idea how the NHS works. We get the doctor they assign us. Sometimes you get the same doctor all/most of the time and other times you get whatever random doctor that is available.

The UK's NHS is not what I'm talking about, and is a clear example of why the US should NOT adopt that model. The issue you raise with the British NHS is exactly why the Dems kept saying "You can keep your Dr" in all the Obamacare debates (even tho it was - at least partly - an absolute lie (they weren't just wrong, they KNEW that MANY people would NOT be able to keep their Drs!).

Shocker! Stop the presses! Politicians LIED!

However, you should read a little farther in the WHO report: they say children under 18 (12-18 in the US) shouldn't get the shot... not because they won't work, or are dangerous - but because the WHO wants those vaccines distributed to other countries where more at-risk people are dying.

Not a medical question, a Public Health one - and the NIH/CDC are focused on the US issues, not the world-wide issues... no shocker in those reports.

Once again, you've screamed FIRE! ... and we've discovered little more than a match.

@raphjd said in CDC now says Vaccinated are the ones spreading the new Delta variant.:

@bi4smooth

I'm not saying C-19 isn't real, but I do think it's been extremely exaggerated.

I have noticed that politicians around the world have used the "build back better" slogan, lapel pins, backdrops, and whatnot. Why are politicians using the World Economic Forum's slogan? You know the one where they said that we need something like a pandemic for the Great Reset? Or have you forgotten about all that already?

Have you forgotten all the examples of those in supreme power not wearing masks? You can riot and loot because that doesn't spread C-19, but protesting the lockdowns does. You can party at a music festival maskless and that doesn't spread C-19, but going to the corner store without a mask does. A massive maskless wedding won't spread C-19, but getting a coffee without a maks will. A party for 700 maskless people won't spread C-19. A massive maskless party for over 200 people won't spread C-19. Going to the pub maskless won't spread C-19, but popping to the shop for some milk without a mask will.

The BBC spreading doom and gloom about C-19, while no one in their offices wears masks.

The Biden White House wears masks for show. Have you forgotten the video of the guy walking in to give the press conference, who was videoed coming into the room without a mask, stopping to put it on behind the pillar to put it on?

Test or don't test.
Mask or don't mask.
Vaccinate or just pray.

Follow the politics - and just die... go ahead, it's a free country, after all.
Follow the medicine and maybe live.

Politics and medicine don't mix. Never have. This is no different.
Politicians get mixed up in medicine and people die.

Go with the politicians... the ones who are left will be better for the future of the human race.

@milktofu said in Tagged as having multiple accounts / ISP issue:

Hi. I am tagged as having multiple accounts, which I believe is an error due to my country's ISPs switching to shared IP addresses. This is my ONLY account (milktofu) on this site and I am not, in any other way or form, related to the other people associated with my IP address. I have NOT shared my internet connection at home to anyone.

Upon checking with my ISP, they issue the same IP address to numerous subscribers. They explained to me that this is the norm now because of IP exhaustion. I have no control over this and there is nothing I can do. All the other ISPs in my country are already doing the same.

I am hoping for your kind consideration and understanding. I have been a member here for almost 13 years and it would BREAK me to lose access over a stupid policy by my country's ISPs.

Is it possible to only allow my account (milktofu) on my IP address? I am hoping for your kind consideration and assistance in this issue.

The forum is the wrong place for this. There is a HELPDESK function on the main site.

Other than @raphjd (who is in charge of them), I don't think many other moderators/staff members monitor these forum channels. @Randy used to as well, but he disappeared.

@soulcalibour

First, let's understand the numbers you're looking at:

• Upload byte count isn't how much you've uploaded *of your own content, it's how much data you've uploaded in total
• Download byte count isn't necessarily how much you've downloaded - because there are *FREELEECH torrents that are recorded, but don't count!

So, for example: Say I download an awesome Asian Porn movie from PeterFever.

• It's 800GB in size, so that's 800GB in download "charged" to my account.
• After I download it, I keep seeding it... and over a few days or weeks, enough other people download it - with my part being just a fraction of some of those downloads - and my upload count for that file reaches 1600GB, so I stop seeding.
• NOTE: I picked that number because my torrent program comes pre-configured to STOP seeding when the ratio hits 2.0 - a setting I change, but it's the default... if yours has a default like that too, I recommend turning it off!

Now, for a REAL booster, I keep an eye on that torrent and I see that activity on the file has dropped off (few, if any downloaders now). More importantly, I see that I am one of a very small number of people seeding it - but I also know that a LOT of people love bareback Asian porn like me, so I go back to the torrent listing in the tracker (e.g. on the site) and I use some of my SBP to make that torrent FREELEECH for 24-hours!

That attracts a LOT of downloaders, so my upload credits go UP UP UP because I'm seeding (helping to seed) all those new downloaders (and I'm one of only a few - if not the ONLY one - seeding it!)

NOTE: Be careful spending your SBP for FREELEECH: if it's not a popular file, or there are too many other seeders, you may not get as many upload "credits" as it cost you in SBP!
Remember: 600 SPB = 10GB of upload credit!

If your ratio (upload divided by download) gets outta whack, remember that you can download a FREELEECH torrent for free (download doesn't count in your download part of the ratio)! If you haven't noticed: mods freeleech torrents - sometimes for an entire week! Lord knows why, but in the end there are ALWAYS plenty of FREELEECH torrents to choose from! But the point is, LOTS of people download the FREELEECH torrents, and if you're one of the seeders, you're getting upload credit while they're getting the download for free!

My final comment on how my numbers got so high... I've been on this site since 2008... [Mike drop] LOL

The idea that a vaccine can block the virus from getting inside you is as "counter" to actual science as the little acrylic dots they used to peddle as "microwave energy" blockers that you were supposed to put on your cell phone to protect your brain from the "microwave energy" given off by your phone...

The dot went on the back of the phone... so it was on the FAR SIDE of the phone from your head.

DOT || Phone || Head

So, two things jumped out to me:

1. How did the dot "extend" itself to block the "radiation" from the phone from going into my head, and
2. If the dot is indeed absorbing that "radiation", why doesn't it get hot?

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@raphjd said in Mayo Clinic says the vaccines CAN prevent you from getting C-19.:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mis-c-in-kids-covid-19/symptoms-causes/syc-20502550

Scroll down to PREVENTION

A vaccine can prevent you or your child from getting the COVID-19 virus.

Umm, I thought literally no one was saying this?!

So who is lying? (no pun intended)

It's just a language choice...
No vaccine prevents you from getting a virus - if someone with polio breathes on you, you'll get the polio virus. If you've been vaccinated, you won't get SICK from polio.

The same here: if you have been vaccinated and are exposed to COVID-19, you will get the virus inside you... it's not like the vaccine creates some invisible barrier around you! What won't happen tho is that you'll get sick and need hospitalization from the effects of the virus.

ALL vaccines do the same general thing: TEACH YOUR BODY to defend against the "bad thing" (virus, in this case). Your own immune system is still doing the ACTUAL work... the vaccine just gave your immune system a "cheat sheet"...

Kinda like how the Astros won the WS in 2017: when you generally know what pitch is coming ahead of time, it's a lot easier to hit the ball!
When your immune system already knows how to deal with COVID-19 (or Polio, or Chicken Pox, or Measles, etc), then it's much easier to "beat" the infection when it shows up.... but it no way ELIMINATES the infection COMPLETELY!