@manhandler said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:

@bi4smooth Answer the fucking topic. 78 people shot this weekend! Imagine if that extends to one of your 15 children. You are the straw man.

This is not the Straw Man you're looking for...

The topic is:

FDA approves Alzheimer's drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter

Ironically, I originally posted in this topic because I AGREED that the FDA was going against science with this drug, and people have resigned their positions within the FDA in protest!

Shall we get back to the topic here? If you want to talk about Chicago, start your own thread!

@manhandler said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth Actually, we can. You're stupid. You are actually defending them for their high crime and high homeless population and high debt and high pollution and low education scores. It's dumb. You're dumb.

You are again right - this time, when I wrote that "you're right that the biggest cities are having crime sprees after COVID", I must've been wrong there too...

So you're claiming that they're NOT having crime sprees? Or that they are?

You are so fixated on insisting that every word I type is wrong, you can't see the forest for the trees...

I feel sorry for you... your life must be truly miserable to keep this shit up like this!

@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth No. There's something wrong with YOU. 78 people shot this weekend and you act like nothing is going on.

This is not the Straw Man you're looking for...

You type the same thing in 7 different threads... all claiming i've said something I have not... Nope! Not me, I'm not your straw man!

@manhandler said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:

@bi4smooth Nope. There were actually 78 people shot this weekend, and you did everything you could to avoid condemning it. Because you ARE one of them and you're just hunky dory with it. You're just ok with that. You have no problem with it, obviously.

This is not the Straw-Man you are looking for...

Where did I say anything you claim I said... nope, straw-man, not me!

@manhandler said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth Dude, you're dumb. You're stupid. I hate to tell you that, it pains me. The Democrat run cities have the highest violence, highest homeless population, highest debt, highest pollution, and lowest education scores. That's democrats for you. There is no excuse. You are defending the indefensible.

ALL of the big cities are Democrat run - it's a "new" way of dividing up the country these days... time was, NYC was run by Republicans! Time was, Boston was run by Republicans!

These days, virtually EVERY major city is Democrat-run... so while you're right that the biggest of the cities are having crime sprees after COVID, you can't compare Democrat cities to Republican cities - because there are no Republican cities left!

@manhandler said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:

@bi4smooth You're stupid.

I'll play...

I know you are, but what am I?

Nanny nanny boo boo, you can't catch me!

Got any other childish games we can play? I raised 9 kids (ok, I'm not done with the youngest yet - but he's 15 - I'm almost there!)... I know LOTS of childish games....

I know! Let's play HIDE & SEEK! You go hide, I'll look for you... no posting until I find you!

@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth What about Lori Lightfoot pledging allegiance to the NWo, 78 shot dead this weekend. Yea, you won't answer that. This happens in LIBERAL cities all the time, and you have no condemnation of murder. It's sick.

Um... I live in a "Liberal city" on the west coast of Florida... indeed, in America today, there really isn't such a thing as a "conservative" city anymore!

It doesn't happen EVERYWHERE... our crime rates are WAY DOWN, especially violent crime rates.

Does that excuse the crime that is here? no. And, again, I know nothing about the mayor of Chicago "pledging allegiance" to the NWO (I don't even know what the NWO is!)... but I do know that if this was as bad as you make it out, media outlets in Europe, Australia, Japan, and India would report on it... much less the MSM here... and none of that is happening... so there's something wrong with the picture you're framing...

@manhandler said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:

@bi4smooth Fuck off! You won't condemn the Mayor of Chicago, when she had 78 people shot this weekend. What the fuck is wrong with you? You're a liberal extremist. You literally won't fucking answer.

This is not the straw-man you're looking for...

I haven't said anything about the Mayor of Chicago. I've been to Chicago - it was cold as hell, the waterfront sucked, there was dirt and trash all over the place - and I didn't find a SINGLE thing I liked about it. AFIK, it's population is DECLINING (as-is Detroit's)... it's a shit-hole and I live 2000 miles away from it, so it shouldn't be surprising that I'm not following their local news.

I'm pretty sure, though, that if the Mayor of Chicago "had 78 people shot this weekend" - the way you have written it - that MSM would not give her a pass on that... I don't know the details, and I'm not interested enough to look them up - just to refute your hyper-partisan bullshit.

I've said this before: The Democrats are dumb. They think there are definitive, finite answers to EVERYTHING (like the idea that there is a POSSIBLE way for everyone to be equal - even though each person's "definition" of what it means to be "equal" is different!).

But you don't have to make shit up to make them look bad! They do it themselves! You actually make them look BETTER when you over-play your hand... because the shit they pull FOR REAL doesn't look so bad when compared to the shit you CLAIM they pulled, but was proven to be false (or misrepresented).

@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth

UMM, Tucker shows the proof.

He has the other side on, so you get it straight from the horse's mouth.

Your side doesn't do that.

This is not the straw-man you're looking for...

You don't know anything about my sources - you keep speculating that it's some kind of liberal media, and I keep telling you I don't watch liberal OR conservative media! At least not the extremists! Indeed, a LOT of the information I get comes from INTERNATIONAL sources - so the "local politics" are somewhat removed.

@manhandler said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:

@bi4smooth Yea well that's because of the monumental number of dead people who voted. For starters. The idea that there were more ballots than voters in NY, which has strict voting laws. And honestly you have no place making declarations about it. The audit will count all the 20s, 50s, and 100s in the drawer. And you're claiming Trump is just a loser and insinuating that the audit isn't justified is bullshit. The audit is justified because that's what the people demand. We know there was fraud, and we DO NOT Trust the election system for good reason.

I'm saying that when the "auditor" shows up and says "I'm going to audit your books and prove you defrauded people" that is no audit... that's a prosecution.

Your analogy to a bank audit is flawed because they don't audit banks by counting the cash - and nothing else! This is more like an IRS audit - where the IRS shows up and seizes everything and spends years trying to PROVE you lied... Kinda like they're trying to do to Trump right now (and it's unfair to HIM ... yup, that's right, I take HIS side in that one!)

@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth Nah, you're full of shit. The reason is because partisan judges dismissed the case for standing (because Texas didn't have a right to audit Pennsylvania). State's rights issue. It had to be done by the State itself. The judges refused to hear any evidence. It wasn't that the evidence wasn't overwhelming or satisfactory, it was that the Judge couldn't provide a remedy, which is the place of the Legislature.

You nailed one of them.... what about the other 97 cases?

@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth

Except for liberal ones.

I'm willing to look at anything and let the fact go where they may, not automatically reject something because of who says it.

This is not the Straw Man you're looking for...

I listed just as many Liberal as Conservative political hacks I don't care to watch or listen to...

@raphjd said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:

@bi4smooth

LOL, you still call Trump an "authoritarian fascist". You are so damned funny in your clown costume. Did Pelosi help you pick it out?

Let's not forget that it was YOUR boy, honest Joe that signed more Executive Orders than all the previous Presidents since Cart, combined in his first 100 days. Honest Joe even said that if you rule by executive order, you are a dictator. Guess what that makes Honest Joe.

Blah, blah, blah to the rest of your post. It's more of the same tired old "but muh tv told me to hate the Orange Man".

This is not the straw-man you are looking for...

I've never claimed to be a Biden SUPPORTER, only admitted that I voted for him because Trump would have been worse. I have never stated any kind of hatred for Trump - disdain, yet... hate, no.

Presidents since Nixon have been writing more and more EO's than their predecessors... We complained in the Clinton administration (once we gained control of the Congress), the Dems complained in the Bush admistration (once the Dems gained control of Congress), we complained about Obama (who SHATTERED the old records) once he lost control of Congress, and the Dems complained about Trump (who SHATTERED Obama's records!)...

That the pattern continues should come as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention since before 2016 (that would, apparently exclude you)... As with his predecessors, most of Biden's EOs are just reversals of his predecessor's EOs. The problem THERE is with Congress... if they'd pass LEGISLATION regarding these areas, there would be no "room" for all the EOs... But Congress is so polarized right now (and with compromise becoming a bad-word), the likelihood is that Biden's successor (hopefully a Republican!) will break all of his records as well!

Trump isn't an Authoritarian Fascist because of his EOs, but rather his demands for ALWAYS getting HIS way, complete and total fealty and loyalty - to him above all else, and his dogged claims that he and he alone is the solution to all our problems.

@manhandler said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:

@bi4smooth Man, you sure do talk a lot about yourself. You're always on defense. "I have never," "I would never," etc. But when Joe Biden does something terrible or stupid your answer is always the same, "he's better than Trump." That's not an answer. That's a straw man. You aren't addressing Lori Lightfoot. You aren't addressing Cuomo. You aren't addressing Whitmer. You aren't addressing Newsome. You aren't addressing Pelosi, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. You don't address that all liberal cities comprise of the most dangerous criminal activity, the highest pollution, the lowest employment, the lowest education scores, the highest homeless populations, etc and it goes on! All you do is say that they're better than Trump, because "Trump demands fealty." It's annoying and lame. You sir, are just fucking lame.

You and @raphjd suck out all the oxygen out of the room with your constant Trumpian lies... where is there time to talk about other things?

I have, repeatedly, warned that Biden's give-aways are inflationary, and will ruin an economy that lasted through 2 prior administrations (Obama and Trump). I have suggested that Cuomo should be impeached for his assaults against women. (No, impeachment isn't cancel-culture...). I'm not following Lightfoot or Whitmer or Newsome (though I am aware the latter is facing a recall).

This may surprise you, but I pay attention to my fellow Republicans! I don't focus on Liberals in office because other than trying to defeat their re-election, I don't care. Those are other States, and I have far too much ELSE to do than fixate on what a bunch of pie-in-the-sky liberals are whining about (or being hypocritical about - a Democrat specialty!)

But all you want to talk about is Trump's return to power, and the stolen election (called The Big Lie - even by Republicans - for a reason!)...

@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth

You aren't interested, but you are interested in everything QAnon says.

You slag off Tucker and said the only thing he might be able to get right is his name, yet you never, ever watch his show. So how do you know?! Who is spoon-feeding you this info? Did you just pick a random name to call a liar? Some douchebag had to tell you this stuff. I'm guessing someone from the Squad, or maybe it's printed on Pelosi's panties.

This is not the Straw Man you are looking for...

Again, you attribute things to me that are demonstrably untrue. Not being interested in Tucker Carlson's show is not equivalent to being a Liberal Democrat.

Clearly not what I said.

You slag off Tucker and said the only thing he might be able to get right is his name, yet you never, ever watch his show. So how do you know?! Who is spoon-feeding you this info? Did you just pick a random name to call a liar? Some douchebag had to tell you this stuff. I'm guessing someone from the Squad, or maybe it's printed on Pelosi's panties.

I don't give a damn about Tucker Carlson - you can sniff his panties all night long for all I care. But he continues to make false and baseless claims about the election results... and he's as partisan as they come.

Look, he lies - and so do the other partisan hacks out there - like Bill Mahr, Sean Hannity, Rachel Maddow, and the list goes on... I don't pay attention to such biased viewpoints, but that doesn't mean I'm deaf either!

The problem with many of these (and the process started with Rush) is that they make such WILDLY false and outlandish claims, that they themselves become the story. Any news commentator or reporter who makes themselves the story is no longer news and become "entertainment" - and are as "real" as WWE.

@manhandler said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:

@bi4smooth Oh please. Like Al Gore? Or Stacey Abrams? What exactly makes it uniquely Trumpian? You're just out there in La La Land.

You're an idiot. Not all Trumpites are idiots (I try not to make generalizations like that)... but you? Yup! An Idiot with a capital I...

Al Gore was butt-hurt when he lost - and he complained a lot, but he didn't make claims after the Electoral College vote...

Stacy Abrams was butt-hurt when she lost - and given that her opponent was actually the Secretary of State at the time (and didn't recuse himself), she may have actually had a point... but she didn't make claims after the election results were certified...

Trump was butt-hurt when he lost... but he, in his unique "sore-loser" way, still - to this day - wants to make claims about the results. THAT is where he is unique....

That you can't see that is a testament to your extremist views and complete lack of intellectual competency.

@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth

Steven Crowder did prove massive voter fraud in a couple of videos, but liberal YouTube got butt hurt.

If you didn't actually support illegal voting, you would have looked at his videos on the topic and looked at the evidence he presented.

You don't care because Trump lost. You don't care how or why just that he lost. That is your extreme mental illness at work.

You insist that I believe your Trumpite partisan sources, but dismiss any other partisan sources.

Hogwash

I dismiss ALL partisan sources.

@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth No, he didn't lose. The Democrats committed fraud and treason, and the evidence is overwhelming, and most of the country knows this is a fact. There is so much evidence that to act like none of it is real is extraordinarily pathetic and delusional.

So much evidence - none of which is (or was) admissible in a Court.

Look, I was open to this idea that there was something crazy going on for the first week or so after the election... but time and again, the campaign went into court and had NOTHING to show!

Elections professionals in this country (generally speaking) do a great job - and year after year, things get better and better (easier to vote, less and less fraud). That pattern was maintained in 2020.

@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth

You are a dishonest buffoon. You really are.

We already discussed several cases of long-term voter fraud by election officials or have you forgot?!

We had the woman election official in Wayne County MI admit to election fraud for every election, for over 20 years.

Broward County FL had over 3 decades of election fraud by their top election officials. Jeb Bush even had to appoint a replacement for one of them, only for this appointee (Brenda Snipes) to turn out to be the dirtiest of the lot. These assholes were extremely dirty and so were the people they hired.

We had that woman south of San Antonio who was openly paying for votes, with cash from the candidates. There was even a fake Republican multi-millionaire who wanted everyone to vote straight party line for Democrats. Project Veritas busted her.

We had that guy from Ilhan Omar's district buying ballots. Your beloved MSM said he didn't break the law because the anti-ballot harvesting law was "on hold", which was a total lie. They also ignored the fact that the guy filmed himself buying blank but signed ballots. Project Veritas busted this corruption too.

There was one county (can't remember which) where the Sheriff and his deputies illegally handled ballots that contained the Sheriff's election. People were even arrested for questioning this illegal practice. The Sheriff, despite being very unpopular, won by a wide margin.

We (you and I) have discussed these people and more here. I, and others, have posted about others that you may or may not have discussed, but I can't remember if you did or not.

Oh, and let's not forget the NJ district where the judge ruled the election was so fraudulent that the entire election had to be done over again, except for the President, because Biden won that district's vote. Biden won the vote for President, so that MUST mean it was a clean election, but every other position up for election on the very same ballot was an absolute fraud. Only a fucking brain-dead clown would believe that crackheaded shit. And YES, you defended this shit, so that is just another thing that proves you have absolutely no credibility.

There are kids cheating on their summer school tests today in the USA!
That doesn't mean the American Educational System is full of lying, cheating kids who are graduating as illiterate, math-phobic, science-disbelieving, morons (most do not aspire to your personal heights of feats in these areas)...

No one (no reasonable person) is claiming that every single vote was legit - only that the number of illegal votes that "made it through the cracks" were not enough to sway the election in any direction.

To be clear: I personally do not make this claim... the Elections Professionals - in EVERY STATE make this claim! The only people alleging massive, outcome-changing fraud are the Trumpites - and at EVERY TURN, when asked for proof the only tangible thing they had was: their infallible, God-Like, Donald Trump lost... and he couldn't lose!

Were there illegal votes? Sure - some malicious, some accidental (Florida - in our own inimitable way granted, removed, re-granted, and then re-removed the voting rights of convicted felons who had served their sentences... and so some of them were confused and voted when they shouldn't have. Some were even arrested (for new felonies - attempted vote fraud!) by over-jealous police... but, to a case, prosecutors recognized the confusion and refused to prosecute even one.)

The entire educational system is not brought to its knees because some 12 y/o figured out how to cheat on a test and not be caught... and our entire elections process is not invalidated because some individuals scattered about the country have claimed (true or not) that they beat the system.

Trump lost.

With or without illegal votes (and how Trumpian of you to assume that all of those illegal votes were against Trump!)

@raphjd said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:

@bi4smooth

Like your BFF, Stacey Abrams, and the DNC are still claiming that Trump stole the 2016 election, via Russian Collusion and actual voter fraud.

Your extreme TDS makes you a clown that can't be respected. No matter what the evidence shows, you just see "Orange Man Bad" because some liberal ass clowns told you that.

You love Honest Joe and the leg spreader. Honest Joe has spent the last 50 years being a liar, corrupt, a racist, and a homophobe. He's a fake as fuck catholic, as he is anti virtually every one of their core tenets. Even back when GWB was saying "Love the sinner, hate the sin", Honest Joe was hating LGBT people, not just the sin.

You justify voter fraud because it helped your guy win. If Trump won, you'd be screeching for recounts and audits. It's all part of your mental illness.

This is not the Straw Man you're looking for...

I did not say Trump stole the 2016 election - I voted for him in 2016!

I said the Dems thought he did... and that they were smarter than the Trumpites, because they turned to legitimate ways to limit his Presidency (I did not agree with them, but one can recognize smart politics while disagreeing with them!)

I only wish I had the powers you attribute to me... But, I am not your Boggart (Harry Potter reference)...

And, for the record, "my guy" didn't win in 2016 or 2020... in both cases, they were eliminated in the primaries... and no, I don't throw temper tantrums when I lose... that is a uniquely Trumpite thing to do...