Posts made by royalcrown89

@raphjd:

You don't get to demand what this topic is about.

You said that anyone who supports Trump supports white supremacy.

So by your logic, you support beheading gays and stoning women because you support Hillary.

You just want to name call those you disagree with, without them pointing out your bullshit.     As I pointed out, if you can call Trump supporters "white supremacists", then others are fully within their rights to call Hillary supporters whatever they want as well.

Once again, what does that have to do with my argument? And I actually said either they support white supremacy OR #45's embracing of white supremacy and white nationalism did nothing to dissuade them from voting for him. Why are you going off into wild tangents about "beheading gays," and "stoning women?" That's all you do on here is deflect, deflect and deflect some more.

95-98% of what you say is wholly irrational…and when confronted with an argument backed up by multiple sources, you fail to refute the claims being made, and instead, you deflect. Also, I am pointing out your irrationality when making arguments, not you personally. I can say your arguments are based in racism (which in itself is irrational) without blatantly calling you a racist as you have done me many, many times on here.

Republican Oklahoma State Senator Ralph Shortey has been hit with child prostitution charges after being caught having sex with a child within 1,000 feet of a church in Moore, Oklahoma. Sen. Shortey is known for being the chairman of #45's campaign for Oklahoma in 2016. He's also known for introducing a bill in the Oklahoma state legislature outlawing the use of aborted fetuses as food. Yeah, I know  :crazy2:

Now wasn't there a situation last year where the son of Michael Flynn retweeted some nonsense about Hillary Clinton and Democrats running a child molestation ring out of a pizza restaurant? And wasn't there a horrible shooting as the result of that dangerous misinformation? Now we have a REAL instance of a REAL person involved in lawmaking committing a horrible crime against a child. I haven't said it before on here but I'm saying it now, Republicans are dangerous.

The Republican party in Oklahoma is letting him keep his job by the way, they've only suspended some of his privileges. Are we surprised by that though?  :crazy2:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ralph-shortey-oklahoma-lawmaker-hit-child-prostitution-charges-n734376
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ralph-shortey-oklahoma-senator-child-prostitution-charges/

@raphjd:

The Guardian is a far left rag.

CNN is fake news.  Don Lemon and his usual guests whore for the left.

BULLSHIT.  If you are claiming that Trump supporters are guilty of thought crimes by association, then so are you.  You don't get to accuse others of something, without it affecting you too.

Just because a person like you says something is irrelevant, doesn't mean it is.  That's just your bogus claim.

Using your logic, you are guilty by association of everything Hillary and everyone of her supporters believe.

Excuse me sir, but I used a combination of sources from very different media outlets. You cannot claim that every single source I used is "fake news" or a "far left rag" without providing sources that refute my claims. This is basic logical reasoning we are talking about here, not make believe or gut feelings. And once again I am reminding you to stop trying to deflect what this discussion is about. It is not about Hillary Clinton, it is about what the title of the thread says, "Steve King is proof that #45 has emboldened white supremacists." Where in that title or in my initial argument in the first post do you see any mention of Hillary Clinton? This argument is not about Clinton or any other irrelevant topic you keep trying to bring into this discussion. Where are your sources proving that Steve King, Steve Bannon or even the Republican party as a whole has never embraced racism and/or white nationalism and white supremacy to unify their base? Where are your sources that prove Steve King or Steve Bannon have never made any comments supporting white nationalism and/or white supremacy? Is Steve King not a Republican assigned as a chairman to a current Congressional committee or subcommittee; therefore, suggesting he is in leadership within the Republican controlled Congress? Is Steve Bannon not a lead strategist and consultant to #45 in the White House? What about my argument is false and where are your sources to prove they are false?

@raphjd:

See, your racism can't let you agree that a Congressman lied, even though we have absolute proof.

Your racism won't let you see the privilege non-whites, but especially blacks, have.  They can get away with forcing white students to walk through a creek to get to class, but we all know that if the races were reversed, it would have been stopped immediately.

Black people an hijack any event they want and make it about themselves, with impunity.  They are even allowed to threaten the safety of a US Senator at a political rally.

You deem any criticism of feminism as woman hating, even when i point to clear evidence of why I hate feminism.   Despite the claims of gender equality, feminists fought against making domestic violence and sex crime laws gender neutral in India back in 2012/13.   In the UK, feminists fought against several gender equality issues, like sex crime laws, retirement age, pension credits, and several others.  I prove that feminists are liars by their own actions.  I'm an egalitarian, which feminists hate because they claim that everything has to be done through feminism.   Of course, as we constantly see, they hate egalitarianism because it's about true gender equality, not special rights for women.

95-98% of what you say is wholly irrational based on either some mild form of mental illness or just old-fashioned racism. Hard to discern which it is or if it's a combination of both.

Once again, whether you support the blatant white nationalist and white supremacist ideals of this administration and people like Rep. Steve King or the fact that they are themselves white nationalists and white supremacists doesn't bother you one bit; you are supporting white nationalism and white supremacy. It's very telling how no one is refuting the actual claim. Why are you not refuting the sources with your own sources that prove Rep. Steve King, Steve Bannon or even #45 himself are not pushing a white nationalist, white supremacist agenda in this country? Where is your proof that the Republican party has not used racism to unify their base for the last 30-40 years? It's very telling that most people's first line of defense it to shout, "I'm not a white supremacist," instead of condemning the disgusting things that Rep. Steve King and Steve Bannon have said. Do you agree that white people are superior to everyone else? Do you agree that white people have contributed the most to modern civilization; therefore, only white people should be treated fairly and humanely? Why are you not refuting this and instead are bringing irrelevant things into this discussion?

You're not holding me to my own logic by bringing up irrelevant topics into a discussion about one highly specific argument. Hold me to my logic by proving what I am saying is wrong with your own reputable sources. You cannot prove someone wrong on a highly specific topic by bringing in irrelevant information. Bringing in irrelevant information automatically destroys your argument. This discussion is about Steve King and others like him being emboldened by the white nationalist rhetoric of Steve Bannon and our current chief executive, #45. Here are some examples of that white nationalist rhetoric and the embracing of that white nationalist rhetoric by actual white nationalists and white supremacists.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/14/steve-bannon-white-house-racism-fear

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/quotes-from-steve-bannon-trumps-new-white-house-chief-strategist/

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rep-steve-king-endorses-racist-white-nationalism/

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-white-nationalists-alt-right-214388

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/us/politics/white-nationalists-celebrate-an-awakening-after-donald-trumps-victory.html

Let me guess, all of these reputable sources are a part of some mass left-wing conspiracy, right? Steve King, Steve Bannon and #45 have never inspired any white nationalists and/or white supremacists with their rhetoric? No wonder why you people never once came out against the ridiculous "alternative facts" claim. You truly believe in an alternate reality.

@wrestling82:

@royalcrown89:

Any attempts to deflect the point of this post by bringing up irrelevant topics such as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, BLM or feminism….blah-blah-blah-blah....

Yeah, there's no way in heck I'm reading that wall of text after already seeing you are a SJW who actually believes sites like Huffington Post.
The fact is, you cannot say you have the right to believe what you want and make such claims and then tell others they do not have those same rights.
I just shut morons out who have such small, closed minds.
Bye!

Thank you for proving my point and affirming my argument.

Also, this is just my argument and I have used reputable sources to back it up. I am in no way saying this is definite. It is an argument that I believe and if others believe it, that's fine. I am one person and I do not represent anyone but myself. Therefore, using my postings as poster children for "common liberal and/or SJW thought" would also derail your argument.

@Karateman:

Saw it on the cinema. I am glad that I saw it there because the big screen and the loud voices adds to the suspense. I liked the movie. However after some time I thought that the movie dragged on.. And to tell you the truth I felt pitty for the old man.. Don't know if I am the only one. 

(possible spoiler so don't read this if you haven't seen the film)

You're not the only one, it was sad what happened to him and why he was doing that to the women. It was even sadder when he explained it to the main girl and tried to let her know he wouldn't physically harm her and would let her go once he got what he wanted, as he was trying to do with the first girl before the idiots who broke in ruined it.

Any attempts to deflect the point of this post by bringing up irrelevant topics such as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, BLM or feminism automatically destroys your arguments. This post is directly tied to recent comments made by Rep. Steve King (R-IA) who has been influenced by white nationalism and white supremacy to say very disgusting things. I have drawn a direct line between the Republican party's recent acceptance of that very same white nationalism and white supremacy through their support of #45 and his well-known white supremacist aka alt-right strategist Steve Bannon. Their support for white supremacy is blatant; therefore, there are currently no valid excuses for supporting them. Either their support of white supremacy was not a problem for those who voted for them or those voters themselves support white supremacy consciously or subconsciously. I do not see a way where there is any room for an in-between.

For a small window of time, there was what I believe an argument for supporting #45's administration based on the possibility that he'd become more presidential and distance himself from the serious problems detailed in this post. If he'd distanced himself from that disgusting faction of the Republican party and from people like Steve King and Steve Bannon, then there would be no argument to make on this. I myself was willing to give #45 a chance because I personally believed in supporting our commander-in-chief as long as that commander-in-chief had proven himself to be competent enough to make serious decisions and would hold himself accountable to those very same decisions. #45 has proven that he is incompetent and refuses to hold himself accountable to anything he does; therefore, I no longer support him based on that sole premise. I never supported anything else about him or his campaign and I did not vote for him.

This thread is not about Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama or anything else you could think of to derail the argument. Hillary Clinton is not our president nor does she hold any position of power currently in government, nor does Barack Obama. Where is your proof that Steve King did not make statements supporting white supremacy and white nationalism? Where is your proof that Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush or any other Republican that used racist rhetoric to unify the Republican base in fact never did use such rhetoric? Ronald Reagan using his "welfare queen" argument and George H.W. Bush's Willie Horton ads in the 1988 election are publicly known instances and can be heavily backed up by reputable sources. The current rise of support for white nationalism and white supremacy can also be backed up reputable sources.

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/20/255819681/the-truth-behind-the-lies-of-the-original-welfare-queen

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2013/12/linda_taylor_welfare_queen_ronald_reagan_made_her_a_notorious_american_villain.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/04/opinion/george-bush-and-willie-horton.html

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/jeb-bush-willie-horton-118061

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/menachem-rosensaft/peter-brimelow_b_1338565.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/world/americas/white-nationalism-explained.html?_r=0

Where are your reputable sources debunking any of this? I deal in facts, not make believe. Steve King is a real person who is making real statements supporting white nationalism and white supremacy, and he was heavily influenced during the 2016 election to become more vocal about that support. This is a real, huge problem for our country and deflecting to try to make it about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton proves you do not see it as a serious problem; therefore, you are complicit.

With his recent statements, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) has further proven that white supremacists now feel they have a voice to go national with their beliefs of white power and white superiority since #45 is now in the White House.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/steve-king-iowa-race-babies-border/index.html

They feel this way as a direct result to #45's success in 2016. When Barack Obama won, there weren't any black politicians or Congressmen openly or covertly saying, "blacks are superior and are more deserving of life and opportunities than whites." No one was committing acts of violence against white immigrants while shouting, "Get out of my country!" This is a recent disgusting occurrence and it is directly tied to #45 and his hateful, white nationalist rhetoric. There aren't any modern comparisons to what we are currently facing with the rise of white nationalism and white supremacy in this country. The few Republican presidents we've had in the last 30 years may have used racism to unify the Republican base at times (i.e. Reagan's welfare queen statements, George H.W. Bush's racist Willie Horton ads), but they stopped short of actually rallying their base with blatant white supremacist language. People who think like Steve King were very careful back then not to bring the wrong kind of attention to their racist antics out of the fear they'd lose elections and support. However, now that they feel safe and justified in their beliefs because of the rise of #45, we're seeing the real them.

This is frightening to a lot of us, but it's not a reason to panic or feel like we should leave this country. This is a time for reflection and condemnation. What Steve King has effectively done is put the entire Republican party as well as ANYONE who voted for #45 in a paradox. With the statements being as blatant as they are right now, those who voted for #45 are either themselves white supremacists (consciously or subconsciously) or the white supremacist statements were not a problem for them. Remember, you do not have to be white to believe in white supremacy or to not see it as a serious enough problem so when a candidate argues for it blatantly, you still support that person. If it was not a problem for you, then by definition you have no problem with racism. There simply is no in-between with this situation. People like Paul Ryan and #45 voters can shout it until they're blue in the face that they are not racists or supporters of racism, they voted for and/or supported a candidate who blatantly made the argument for white nationalism and white supremacy; so much so that he has inspired a Congressman to openly defend that argument.

There is no in-between. You either voted for and/or supported the man making the argument or you didn't. If you did, the evidence shows you supported white supremacy in the 2016 election and you currently support it by continuing to support #45. "I voted for jobs," "I voted for the Obamacare repeal," "I voted for the non-politician;" none of that excludes the fact that you voted for the man who has reawakened the argument for white supremacy in this country. Knowing that he is a proponent of white nationalism and that he hired well-known white nationalist Steve Bannon did nothing to stop you from voting for him; therefore, you either indirectly or directly support white nationalism and white supremacy. The writing is on the wall and once again, there is no in-between with this situation.

@raphjd:

Oh, okay. Whatever. Where's an irrationality trophy when you need one? You sir should be deemed "Irrational Man of the Year."

LOL.   You are just a sad little person.

And why should I care what a person like you thinks about anything?

You don't have to give a care in the world to what I am saying, but it's not going to stop me from saying it. Your arguments are mostly invalid with the exception of a few here and there real undeniable instances. Two things I will forever agree with you on is Oprah Winfrey is an opportunist hack who should never be president under ANY circumstances, and the American immigration system is extremely unfair and harms people who legally try to come here. Other than that and possibly a few other things, I will continue to deem 95-98% of what you say as wholly irrational based on either some mild form of mental illness or just old-fashioned racism. Hard to discern which it is or if it's a combination of both.

Yeah, this is all relevant because Hillary Rodham Clinton is president right now. You people are impossible.

@raphjd:

@royalcrown89:

Funny how you mentioned me in this response when I've been called personal names on here by other users such as when user amicusets called me a "flaming queen of libtards" in the thread related to Racist Elf (aka Jeff Sessions) and absolutely nothing was done about it. And while I did admit I should not have used the language I did in the rant you mentioned, the rant itself was 100% justified. The basis of all my arguments are that everyone should have the very basic opportunities and I do not have a belief that one person's rights or even their very own lives are worth less or more than others. Your arguments on the other hand can be paraphrased as, "all women believe men should die; therefore, feminism is toxic" or "all blacks are racists unless they're completely identical to the one type of black I agree with; therefore, only blacks I agree with deserve to be treated as human beings." I will continue to deem 95-98% of your arguments as wholly irrational. The other 2-5% depend on you saying things that are undeniable facts, such as the American immigration system being unfair to people like you and your partner.

Did you use the report button?

LOL, you can't even get your lies even partly believable.

I do believe that feminism is toxic and I've given countless examples of your religion being vile, but I never said all women.

Nor did I say all blacks are racist.  I said that blacks, like you, who view everything as being about race, are racist.    You pulled the "but blacks can't be racist" BS.   I point out that a certain Congressman lied and that makes me a racist who hates MLK,Jr by some twisted black racist imagination.

I voted for a black woman as my Congressperson in the last 12 elections and that somehow makes me a racist and a woman hater.  Fucking hell, you do have a fucked up mentality.

Oh, okay. Whatever. Where's an irrationality trophy when you need one? You sir should be deemed "Irrational Man of the Year."  ;D

@raphjd:

There are a lot of things Presidents aren't legally allowed to do but they still do it; Iran - Contra for example.

President Obama did not tap Agent Orange's phones and Agent Orange has no proof of it, simple as that. Once again, we're back to Agent Orange not providing proof to either support or dismiss a claim. His credibility is as low as his approval numbers at this point. He should keep it up though, I truly have never seen this amount of people coming together in South Carolina. Do you know how long it has been since I've seen a bumper sticker supporting #45 and #48? Senator Tim Scott and former Governor Mark Sanford were booed at a townhall by people who voted for them just because they defended Agent Orange. He's become very, very toxic here. I cannot wait for the big coordinated anti-#45 march headed by a republican teacher here. Exciting to see Democrats, Republicans and Independents coming together against the unpopular Cheeto with bad hair.

Racist Elf will definitely resign sometime this year. Remember I said this on here before it happened so when it happens you won't be shocked when I say, "I told you so." :cheers:

@raphjd:

How sad.   You think you are being "trolled" because someone doesn't believe you are a conservative based on your posts.

The picture was/is there and apparently you saw the link, so I'm confused why you kept claiming it didn't exist.

It's completely obvious you only enforce the rules when people are saying things you personally don't want to read.

LOL, do you realize how many people I would have to ban if I didn't allow people to disagree with me.

As an example, RoyalCrown would be muted on the forums because of a little rant he went on, which even he admits he violated the rules.   He got no punishment because he admitted he did wrong.

The only people who get "banned", actually muted on the forums, are those that only post personal attacks, while never joining in on the discussion.   And spammers, of course.

One person got a total site ban because he fought with so many people and not a single staff member wanted him around.

Funny how you mentioned me in this response when I've been called personal names on here by other users such as when user amicusets called me a "flaming queen of libtards" in the thread related to Racist Elf (aka Jeff Sessions) and absolutely nothing was done about it. And while I did admit I should not have used the language I did in the rant you mentioned, the rant itself was 100% justified. The basis of all my arguments are that everyone should have the very basic opportunities and I do not have a belief that one person's rights or even their very own lives are worth less or more than others. Your arguments on the other hand can be paraphrased as, "all women believe men should die; therefore, feminism is toxic" or "all blacks are racists unless they're completely identical to the one type of black I agree with; therefore, only blacks I agree with deserve to be treated as human beings." I will continue to deem 95-98% of your arguments as wholly irrational. The other 2-5% depend on you saying things that are undeniable facts, such as the American immigration system being unfair to people like you and your partner.

@aadam101:

Perhaps DeVos will end up being the best of the bunch!

Nope, she's illiterate and misspelled the name of a well-known civil rights activist and one of the co-founders of the NAACP, W. E. B. Du Bois. Then she had the nerve to say HBCUs were the result of school choice. WHAT CHOICE? Black people post-slavery and Reconstruction were banned from attending predominately white universities and colleges so they created their own. IT WAS NOT A CHOICE, IT WAS THE ONLY OPTION. Those two HUGE mistakes alone are enough for her to be done with millions of people. I don't give a flying monkey that she walked back the comments, she should have never made those comments. Both her and Racist Elf are DONE.

She would never get my vote nor would she get the vote of anyone I know. Her episodes became so redundant over time, and it got to the point where the only times I watched her show was to see a musician I listened to or to see an interview with an author I liked at the time. Most of her episodes were so one-sided, too. I agreed with her on a few episodes where she'd show white supremacists foam at the mouth, but she never got to the point of why those hillbillies were often like that in the first place. Their hatred didn't just pop up out of nowhere, it was taught to them from childhood to adulthood and passed on so they could never relate to lower class people of color; therefore, keeping a real uprising from happening to disrupt the classism in our society. She never really went deep into that; which led me to believe it was all just for ratings which is sad. And she seemed anti-man to me because there was always this unsaid "men caused every single problem in history" aura around her and that was followed up with a "only women can be compassionate enough to fix problems" mentality. I'm not the only gay black man who feels this way. Why do you think she rarely had gay black men on her show or why no gay black men really hang around her? I'd actively campaign against Oprah if she were a candidate.

One thing that we all know for sure, this isn't over and Racist Elf has a lot of special favors to do to keep Republicans in Congress from coming after him. He has put them in a tough spot and that is gonna come with a hefty price. They have to now defend Racist Elf knowing he lied under oath on LIVE camera in front of an official committee. This is gonna get real nasty real soon  :cheers:

Oprah is not a racist, that is ridiculous and is clearly an irrational claim. However, she does have a cult following and it's creepy. Everything she does has group-think written all over it and that's a quicker route towards fascism than anything #45 could ever do. I'm glad she's actually not running and I hope she continues to hold that position because she'd only help Agent Orange get a second term, and we don't need that. Democrats can win if they stay on the facts, and right now the number one fact is Republicans are going to take away health coverage for millions of Americans if they repeal ACA.