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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @raphjd:

      @royalcrown89:

      @raphjd:

      Blacks on the right aren't vilifying white people at every turn.

      That's because those blacks are complicit in uplifting white supremacy. Some black people have their price. You pay them a sum of money and they'll sell their own family members, figuratively and literally. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of us cannot be bought.

      Still, that has nothing to do with our president calling for the deaths of five innocent black men. Once again, no amount of deflection or false equivalency can defend that view. Everything else you said is 100% :ot: so I'm not wasting my time replying to it. Your argument was over the moment you began deflecting and playing various "blame" cards in a discussion that doesn't call for those "blame" cards. Would you like to play yet another one? Which one will you be playing today?

      You are so pathetic.

      "If they don't agree with me, they are race traitors and support white supremacists."   Fucking hell, the left is delusional.

      Does that also apply to whites who help blacks oppress whites?   Are they also race traitors who support black supremacists?

      It's funny, you and your ilk never want to have a discussion about "those blame cards".

      It's also bullshit to say that Tommy  Sotomayor, Tom Black, Terrence Williams, aka2kool and countless others support white supremacy.    Like me, they hate racists of any color.   I bet that's your real problem, they fully admit that blacks are racists and that anti white racism does exist.

      And you're still severely :ot: This is what I mean about derailment. I did not begin this topic to discuss which white people and black people are this or that. What does any of this have to do with our president currently calling for the deaths of five men who have been exonerated of any wrongdoing involving a case that goes back decades? Just say it's indefensible and either a) move on or b) begin a topic to discuss what YOU want to talk about. Why is constant deflection and derailment perfectly fine for you?

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Civility Poll

      @raphjd:

      OK, let's finish this topic.

      Anyone on the left whining about their reputation bar needs to shut up.  You guys brought it upon yourselves through the approval system manipulation.

      You guys targeted your enemies for mass downvoting in every section of the forums and without a care what is posted.  If your enemy made a post, you guys had to downvote it.

      The fact that you guys were able to defeat my nearly 10k upvote rating shows it was planned and a concerted effort.

      After a few months, the righties found out that the reputation system can be manipulated too.     Now you are crying about the righties victimizing you and being uncivil.

      Thank you for proving my point, raphjd. When Frederick makes references to reputation power meaning something, he's playing further into the manipulation. That was the point I was making. Thank you also for suggesting we finish this topic because there really isn't much left to say. This isn't about victimization, it is about the sad truth that this forum has become very toxic and not many people want to participate. You brought up the downvoting, some users downvote because they figure what is the point trying to argue with someone who constantly deflects and derails from the topic at hand. That's my problem and that's the problem of the many users who are not participating in this forum even though they want to. I can tell you raphjd that I downvoted only the things I disagreed with you on and I often posted my argument for why I downvoted you. When I upvoted–-mainly on posts about free speech---you, I've posted the argument for why I upvoted you. My replies to you are my direct arguments even if I never blatantly state, "This is why I downvoted/upvoted you." If you want to call that some organized effort, fine. I've posted screenshots before proving the organized effort involving the reputation downgrading.

      Still, there is the problem of mass deflection and derailment going on and you have yet to provide a way to bring an end to that. Why is it that a topic specifically about X can't be argued without bringing in an irrelevant Y? If I'm making the argument that watermelons can be seedless and mhorndisk derails the argument by mass posting about bees from Africa being more dangerous to humans than European bees, why is it okay for him to jump into that topic and completely derail it more than 5 times in a row about something that has nothing to do with the topic? Now apply that to politics. If I make an argument about Ohio voter suppression efforts in the 2004 presidential election and Frederick derails the argument by stating Michelle Obama is a man, why is that okay? That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic at hand, especially since we would be talking about 2004; years before millions of people knew who Michelle Obama was. Deflection and derailment are childish, and it has added to the toxicity on this forum.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: This Group

      @Frederick:

      @royalcrown89:

      Another one of your problems Frederick, you either don't know how to read or you can't comprehend what someone is saying. I AM NOT CALLING FOR THE REMOVAL OF RAPHJD. We need more than one moderator for this forum. That person can work either with raphjd or independent of him; but the fact remains, we need more than just him. He has effectively shown that he can separate his personal opinions from his moderating, and I will continue to applaud him on that. However, he has done little to stop the childishness in this forum. If he did more, more people would be participating. This forum is toxic and you have contributed HEAVILY to that toxicity. There needs to be another moderator who is willing to stop the childishness and other bad behavior that has discouraged so many from participating. The moderator doesn't have to be a "moonbat" or anyone who personally identifies with the left. The person needs to come in with the dedication to make this forum open to everyone who wants to participate without childish attacks and uncivil behavior from users like you. Of course you're not going to understand that because you're one of the troublemakers.

      Hmm.. you may be right.  Would you like me to help moderate this group?

      Are you willing to help make this forum open for everyone to share their opinion without childishness being thrown at them and their threads being derailed all the time? Are you willing to stop with the childish "moonbat" talk and engage in productive and constructive debate with those you disagree with? Because if you are honestly willing to change your behavior and if you can separate your personal views from your moderating duties the way raphjd does, then I could one day get behind you being a moderator on here. As of right now, no. You have not shown that you can be a moderator. I have not shown that I could ever be a moderator, not as of now. It has to be someone who is willing to do all of the hard work it takes to be a moderator. We all know raphjd does a decent job moderating, and he doesn't need help with that. He does enforce the rules. I'm calling for someone who will be a moderator that helps remove the toxicity in this forum, something he clearly is having trouble with.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Civility Poll

      @Frederick:

      @royalcrown89:

      @Frederick:

      @royalcrown89:

      Hmm, I wonder who the three users are who would rather be uncivil than make an attempt to stop the childish name calling and constant deflection/derailment. Who could those three users be? :blind:

      Either way, I'm ending my call for more civility because it's clear at this point this forum is beyond repair unless another moderator is appointed or more rules are made. It was a one-sided effort this whole time and while that's sad, it's opened my eyes. The president isn't the only person who has shown his true colors recently.

      I never cast a vote in your poll which offered no intelligent answer. 
      I see that you are making your own mini ultimatum by saying either this group must go or the moderator must go.   I think I will post my OWN poll.

      You either want to be civil or you don't. There's no way to misconstrue that. And no, I am not calling for the removal of raphjd, I'm calling for there to be more than one person moderating this forum because it is not a forum where ALL people feel welcome to post comments without their threads being derailed and/or being called a bunch of childish names and their reputation down-voted just for speaking their mind. I am also NOT calling for the removal of this forum, either. This forum is a place for free speech and I am for free speech, but what I am against is constant derailment, deflection, and pettiness by users like you. When have you ever made an argument on here, stuck to that argument, backed that argument up with FACTS, defended said argument and then came to a conclusion on here? I can answer that for you Frederick, NEVER. You have never done that.

      Somehow the word "ALWAYS" got replaced with "NEVER" in your statement.

      No wonder I have a nice lonnnnnnnnnng green line of reputation… whilst you have a nasty lonnnnnng RED line which is well deserved.

      You have a nice lonnnnnnnnnng green line of reputation because you constantly go to the reputations of those you don't like and downgrade them day after day after day. Therefore, your lonnnnnnnnnng green line of reputation is just another symbol of how you're contributing to the toxicity of this forum. What kind of a person waits an hour at a time just to downgrade someone's reputation multiple times in the same day?? You need professional help.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: This Group

      Another one of your problems Frederick, you either don't know how to read or you can't comprehend what someone is saying. I AM NOT CALLING FOR THE REMOVAL OF RAPHJD. We need more than one moderator for this forum. That person can work either with raphjd or independent of him; but the fact remains, we need more than just him. He has effectively shown that he can separate his personal opinions from his moderating, and I will continue to applaud him on that. However, he has done little to stop the childishness in this forum. If he did more, more people would be participating. This forum is toxic and you have contributed HEAVILY to that toxicity. There needs to be another moderator who is willing to stop the childishness and other bad behavior that has discouraged so many from participating. The moderator doesn't have to be a "moonbat" or anyone who personally identifies with the left. The person needs to come in with the dedication to make this forum open to everyone who wants to participate without childish attacks and uncivil behavior from users like you. Of course you're not going to understand that because you're one of the troublemakers.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Civility Poll

      @Frederick:

      @royalcrown89:

      Hmm, I wonder who the three users are who would rather be uncivil than make an attempt to stop the childish name calling and constant deflection/derailment. Who could those three users be? :blind:

      Either way, I'm ending my call for more civility because it's clear at this point this forum is beyond repair unless another moderator is appointed or more rules are made. It was a one-sided effort this whole time and while that's sad, it's opened my eyes. The president isn't the only person who has shown his true colors recently.

      I never cast a vote in your poll which offered no intelligent answer. 
      I see that you are making your own mini ultimatum by saying either this group must go or the moderator must go.   I think I will post my OWN poll.

      You either want to be civil or you don't. There's no way to misconstrue that. And no, I am not calling for the removal of raphjd, I'm calling for there to be more than one person moderating this forum because it is not a forum where ALL people feel welcome to post comments without their threads being derailed and/or being called a bunch of childish names and their reputation down-voted just for speaking their mind. I am also NOT calling for the removal of this forum, either. This forum is a place for free speech and I am for free speech, but what I am against is constant derailment, deflection, and pettiness by users like you. When have you ever made an argument on here, stuck to that argument, backed that argument up with FACTS, defended said argument and then came to a conclusion on here? I can answer that for you Frederick, NEVER. You have never done that.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Civility Poll

      Hmm, I wonder who the three users are who would rather be uncivil than make an attempt to stop the childish name calling and constant deflection/derailment. Who could those three users be? :blind:

      Either way, I'm ending my call for more civility because it's clear at this point this forum is beyond repair unless another moderator is appointed or more rules are made. It was a one-sided effort this whole time and while that's sad, it's opened my eyes. The president isn't the only person who has shown his true colors recently.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @raphjd:

      Blacks on the right aren't vilifying white people at every turn.

      That's because those blacks are complicit in uplifting white supremacy. Some black people have their price. You pay them a sum of money and they'll sell their own family members, figuratively and literally. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of us cannot be bought.

      Still, that has nothing to do with our president calling for the deaths of five innocent black men. Once again, no amount of deflection or false equivalency can defend that view. Everything else you said is 100% :ot: so I'm not wasting my time replying to it. Your argument was over the moment you began deflecting and playing various "blame" cards in a discussion that doesn't call for those "blame" cards. Would you like to play yet another one? Which one will you be playing today?

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @raphjd:

      Do you get why white supremacy is back on the rise again?

      Yeah, because people like you are defending it by using false equivalency. You can't "make" someone become a white supremacist. If a person has those feelings and believe America and European countries should be white only, then that person has always been a white supremacist. All this president did was give them the backing of the presidency and White House. He can try to walk it back all he wants now and it won't matter. His true self has appeared and it truly is the end of his presidency. I didn't start this thread to "only blame the right" for anything. This thread is about our bigoted president calling for the deaths of five innocent black men years after they were exonerated of every single charge they were falsely convicted of. Your constant derailment tells me everything I need to know.

      At the end of the day, we have a president and he is being held accountable; so much so that it has caused major self-reflection within his administration and one of the white supremacists working with him has been expelled from government. This did not start with Steve Bannon–-after all the president has been calling for the deaths of those five innocent black men for a couple of decades now---and it will not stop with Steve Bannon. No amount of false equivalency is going to change how so many people see this president. The South lost the Civil War because a UNITED America had better plans. If this president wants to align himself with white supremacists, then he's aligning himself with failure. This country still has better plans and will move forward even with a disgusting bigot sitting in the Oval Office.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @raphjd:

      @royalcrown89:

      @raphjd:

      So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

      You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

      There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

      I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

      Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

      You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

      You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.

      Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.

      I know you condemned the violence on both sides.   I saw how your fellow liberals reacted, too.

      Liberals claim that whenever one of their own do something bad, such as smashing people over the head with bike locks, it has nothing to do with being liberals.    On the flip side, when someone on the right does something bad, all people on the right are guilty.   We saw this here by a few liberals, but mainly from Magenta.   Magenta and others kept up the "they weren't liberals, there were individuals" bullshit.

      The left beat and stomped unconscious and bloodied people laying on the ground because they looked like they could be Nazis.

      Professor Eric Clanton (the ultimate bike lock liberal) hit several people over the head with his bike lock.   In the process, he fractured the skulls of at least 3 people.   The most blatant case was the guy trying to keep everyone from getting violent.   Clanton used his bike lock because he knew it would do extreme damage.    You would expect that he's smart enough to know that smashing people over the head with that bike lock, that he could kill them.

      You fellow liberals purposely set an occupied building on fire to prevent wrong speak.

      Your fellow liberals (smugglypuff, to be exact) attacked a retired couple walking their dog because they looked like wrong thinkers.

      Let's not forget about the shooting at the Repub baseball practise.

      There's been shootings and stabbings by leftists.

      If anything bad by the right is done in Trump's name, then anything bad done by the left is done in the name of every liberal politico.

      Obama, Hillary, and the rest are a part of this discussion.   They played the race/vag card every time they could.     Obama race baited Michael Brown and even sent 100 FBI agents to prove it.   "HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT" was proven to be a complete lie but black politicians kept using it.

      Where the fuck were all the leftist heroes when their own were committing extremely violent acts, including murder?!     They were doubling down blaming the victims or excusing the vile actions of the left in some sort of bullshit way.

      More deflection, more derailment and absolutely no accountability. While I agree not enough coverage was shown to those bad acts on the left, you simply cannot compare any of it to the fact that so many white supremacists have been woken up and supported by this president. If deflection and derailment is all you have, then you have lost this argument. If false equivalency is all you have, then you have lost this argument. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE) said very recently that, "a lot of violence is coming," and he's 100% right. This president has woken up something very disgusting and it has taken over a very important argument in this country; that is the argument for free speech. We need to have a serious discussion on free speech and the way the left is demonizing free speech, but our president has poisoned that argument by helping uplift this white supremacist element. It's one thing to say "liberals are harming free speech;" however, it is an entirely different thing to align yourself with KKK members, neo-nazis and other white supremacist groups to make your argument for free speech. He could've simply said those groups have every natural right to say, assemble and march all they want; but he didn't just say that. He has fully aligned himself with those groups and nothing anyone says now or years from now will remove that stain on his presidency. He did this. He caused this.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @mhorndisk:

      You are literally trying to weave a story that Trump just wants these guys to die because they are black.

      What other reason is there? They were exonerated many, many years ago and the state of New York by law has given them restitution. Do you have any evidence that they are guilty, and if so, why haven't you presented it to a court? The president wants them dead and you have not given me a logical explanation for why that is. Could it be because it's indefensible like I've been saying? Even raphjd hasn't made an effort to defend this disgusting belief the president CURRENTLY has. Show me undeniable proof that our president doesn't currently want those five men executed and I will leave this alone. Otherwise, you have not proven anything nor have you given a complete and logical defense for why our sitting current president wants five innocent, exonerated men dead today.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @mhorndisk:

      Margaret Sanger literally said that blacks are weeds who need to be exterminated. That's Planned Parenthood's founder. Hillary praised her.

      And there's the Hillary Card! Was wondering when it would be played in a discussion that has nothing to do with her, because we all know Hillary Clinton is the APOTUS, the Alternative President of the United States.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Liberals VANISH

      Yep, the polls were so wrong. Millions of people protesting this trashy president means absolutely nothing, just like the many people exiting this toxic White House and administration  :crazy2: In the words of exiled racist Steve Bannon, "This presidency…is over."

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @mhorndisk:

      He is not all seeing and all-knowing.

      Oh, so you admit he's not the messiah?

      @mhorndisk:

      Take your nonsense elsewhere. Plus you're acting like this is still current. Yea you are posting it now, but when was the last time it was even a discussion? Wasn't it over a year ago? Why are you bringing this in now?

      2016 is very, very current. It wasn't that long ago that our president was a presidential candidate and the Republican nominee for president. Until he either apologizes or at least walks back his statements, it doesn't matter how much time goes by. The fact remains: he wants five innocent men DEAD NOW. Show me proof that he has walked back his statements on the matter? He was asked about it while running for president and on the record stated that he still wants them executed for what they did. What has been proven that they did that is punishable by death other than being innocent black men?? Can you answer that? Can anyone answer that and back it up with PROOF? Do you have court documents that prove otherwise and show they are indeed guilty of rape and attempted murder? Yeah…didn't think so. This is serious because our sitting president is someone calling for the deaths of innocent people for no other reason than the color of their skin, and my reasoning for believing so comes directly from his very own mouth. He called KKK members, neo-nazis and other white supremacists "good people" this past Tuesday on camera on LIVE TV. What kind of President of the United States calls white supremacists---one of which murdered a woman in that president's name---"good people?"

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @mhorndisk:

      They are still alive. If they are innocent

      They are innocent because no evidence was ever provided to say otherwise and they were exonerated by compelling DNA evidence, proving they have never been in contact with the victim of that horrific crime.

      @mhorndisk:

      than they most likely will not be executed, regardless if the President has all the facts - the media gives lots of fake misinformation. That's the problem. If the President still believes in their execution, maybe he isn't aware of ALL the facts yet. Big deal. It doesn't mean that he is going to have them executed - that's a state issue. So what?

      You can save all of your "fake media" talk for someone that will fall for it. There isn't a way to misconstrue this. Our disgusting lying cowardice president continues to call for the deaths of five innocent men. This says a lot about his character and who he is as a man. He's trash and after this week, everyone who was in doubt that he's trash realizes he's trash. He continues to call for their deaths because he's either a white supremacist or a white supremacist sympathizer.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @Frederick:

      I hope you are still posting when the case I have been working on for 5 years comes up.  THAT is a case in which there was NO evidence against the guy, the government forced him to take heavy duty psychiatric medications - enough to kill a horse, turn his skin green, and caused him to gain 70 pounds in 8 months.  Even then, it took 20 months to get him to not deny the crime.  He never did confess to it.  What he did say is loaded with contradictions, omissions, and doesn't fit the timeline.  The prosecution even said that what he finally stated in documents - which were never read to the jury - and he never testified other than to say he was Not Guilty of all charges in his arraingment, pre-trial, and trial - were statements made just to pursue an insanity plea cooked up by his crooked attorney - who it turns out is the best friend of a man that worked for the main person filing charges against him.  That is like having a defense attorney who is the brother of the husband of a woman that was murdered.   The psychiatrist that brainwashed the man was on the payroll of the police for several years, which the accused / convicted man was never made aware of.  The accused man is on record as saying that what he told the psychiatrist was what his lawyer told him to say as a condition of pursuing an insanity plea.   You think I will get that guy out?  You can bet your sweet bippy I will!  One of the reasons I am in this group is to practice beating back fake statements and crazy buffoons such as the moonbats.

      None of this has anything to do with this thread; therefore, it is 100%  :ot:

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @Frederick:

      That is bullshit and you know it.  They were exonerated because the one guy whose DNA was confirmed got blamed for everything.  Are you saying he acted alone?    By the way.. it is impossible to prove someone is innocent.

      According to judges and the laws of the state of New York, the five men did NOT do ANYTHING to the woman who was attacked and enough evidence was presented to EXONERATE THEM OF ALL CHARGES. They did not rape her. They did not touch her. Unless you yourself have proof that says otherwise, your opinion is wholly irrelevant to what the law says. The state then proceeded to award them restitution, which still doesn't give back the years they spent in prison. Still, none of that is my point. My point is that our coward, lying, disgusting president STILL TO THIS DAY calls for their executions and now everyone–-most of us already knew---knows why he still calls for their executions. This past week revealed to those in denial just who our president really is.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Liberals VANISH

      I'm here and I'm not going anywhere  :cheers:

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @Frederick:

      @royalcrown89:

      @raphjd:

      So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

      You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

      There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

      I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

      Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

      You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

      You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.

      Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.

      I'm not sure who you are referring to as the "five innocent black men".   To begin with, it is impossible to prove someone to be innocent.  They can be found "not guilty" or "acquitted" but not "innocent".   I think you might be referring to the central park incident.  Just because their DNA was not found in the woman's cooch doesn't mean they didn't rape her and certainly doesn't mean they didn't beat the shit out of her.   If that is whom you are referring to, that is a very poor example.

      You know I'm referencing the Central Park 5 because that's what this thread is about and has been about since I began it over a month ago. The murderer who confessed acted alone and that has been proven beyond a doubt now. The five who were charged and coerced into admitting guilt never came into contact with the woman, which was proven and why they were awarded the money following years of court hearings where it was proven that they never came into contact with her. Yes, they are innocent and they were exonerated. Our president is still calling for their deaths and has not walked it back and that is indefensible. It is disgusting and against how our justice system works.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

      @raphjd:

      So, you'd be happy if Trump condemned every single liberals for the bikelock leftists?

      You call it "deflection" to prevent anyone from comparing the groups and their actions.    It's funny how you never want to compare groups you demonize (rightly or wrongly) to any other group.

      There have been stabbings and shooting by leftists, so all people on the left are fucking evil and need to be killed.

      I hate racists, they suck.   HOWEVER, like we've been seeing the last 15 to 20 years, the left has been calling their enemies all the most hateful names as a way of justifying the evil shit the left does.

      Watch Tucker Carlson.  Liberals label anyone against illegal immigration, disagrees with BLM, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc as Nazis and racists.

      You called me a racist simply for pointing out that a Congressman lied twice, at the time, in recent months.     That's how easy it is for the left to throw those kinds of nasty labels around.

      You of all people know that I have called out violence on the left and that BEFORE CHARLOTTESVILLE the right hadn't done anything close to what the left was doing. However, the moment someone was ran over by a white supremacist in our president's name, the comparison argument became a losing argument. And for whatever reason, you're still clinging to that argument when pretty much everyone across the political spectrum has accepted that that argument is OVER. There are no points of comparison with death because you can't bring someone back from the dead. Now that we're at this point, your "bike lock liberal" argument has basically lost its validity. I was with you criticizing antifa and you know I was. But not now. Until antifa runs someone over or causes someone to lose their life AND THE MURDERER CLEARLY STATES THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF ANTIFA, this argument is OVER and there are NO comparisons.

      Now back to the point of this thread, the president calling KKK members and other white supremacists "good people" directly ties to his desire to execute five innocent black men. As a result, the overwhelming majority of the country is done with him. No amount of derailment by you or anyone else will change that fact and this problem isn't going away just because he got rid of one of the white supremacists in the White House.

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