@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@bi4smooth

Ok sweetheart, keep playing mental gymnastics as told to you by liberal MSM.

You keep arguing with your Straw Man... I haven't said once that they should be forced to stop the audit in AZ... all I've said is that they did an extremely poor job of setting it up and executing it - so poor that no one NOT ALREADY convinced of the fraud Trump claims is there will believe their findings are anything but a political hack-job. The facts won't matter... they've tainted themselves as overtly partisan already... even if there IS fraud -- on a scale large enough to sway the election -- no one (outside Trumpites already) will believe it. Thus, it's a waste of time and money.

That said, the guy who owns the company doing the audit is doing quite well! In spite of the outrageous real estate prices in Fla today, he'll be able to buy Mara Lago when he's done!

@raphjd said in Y Libs SO silent? They can't answer!:

@bi4smooth

See, you are the clown that is making it about Trump, not about election fraud.

Also, you ran your mouth, slagging of Trump for disputing the election while defending your beloved fellow Dems who were also contesting their loss.

Stacy Abrams is still screeching that she actually won and white supremacists are keeping her out of office.

Stacy Abrams contested her loss... until the results were certified. Though, you are correct that she never conceded the race. Still, she didn't wander about Georgia proclaiming herself the "rightful" Governor of GA, either... she marshaled her resources, and somehow managed to get enough lunk-heads in GA to vote Democratic that the formerly reliable RED state voted for Biden in one race, and TWO Democrats for SENATE!

She's got us out-maneuvered in GA for now... hopefully that's temporary, tho I do not follow GA politics much anymore (I left Atlanta in 1987).

That you can't tell the difference between someone contesting a result BEFORE it is certified, and someone who continues to do so AFTERWARDS speaks volumes about your ability to comprehend even simple issues. No wonder you were so easily led into the QAnon wilderness.

@raphjd said in Alyssa Milano swoops in as Hero after Gay Rights Won.:

@bi4smooth said in Alyssa Milano swoops in as Hero after Gay Rights Won.:

@manhandler said in Alyssa Milano swoops in as Hero after Gay Rights Won.:

@raphjd Yea, it's just the liberal mentality in general when talking about issues like race and sexuality... oblivious. Alyssa Milano wants to act like a superhero, but the war for equality was settled when gays were allowed to marry, and that was many years ago. Now it's super easy for people like her. There's no struggle so it just looks pathetic. She's a washed up celebrity looking for attention and praise. It's the definition of self-centered. It's not about gay rights. It's about her, and it's lazy.

A LOT of celebrities are crazy...

• Charlie Sheen?
• Paris Hilton? (How did that crazy bitch get famous enough for people to care?)
• Shia LaBeouf
• Lindsay Lohan
• Kanye West
• Mel Gibson
• Gary Busey
  ... sheesh - this list got long fast! And I wasn't even TRYING!

Honestly, this list is missing one nut-job celebrity.... Donald Trump LOL

You forgot every one of you people with extreme TDS.

If I had 1% of the "following" you attribute to me, I'd run for office!
But I'm not the one telling other people what they think... you are the telepathic one
So tell me - what am I thinking now?

Nope! I was thinking I'd like some ice cream....

@raphjd said in 2nd Reporter goes to Veritas, exposing Media censorship of Truth:

@bi4smooth

As I keep repeating, Corona Virus is one of the 3 oldest virus types on earth.

Humans have had to deal with it throughout our entire existence.

Over the last 20 years, we have had several quasi pandemics based on it.

We've had the common cold and flu forever and a day.

Other than the Gain of Function part, we should know quite a lot about corona viruses.

Also, we have been lied to by WHO, CDC, and many others, which is hindering science.

Let's not forget that your beloved, saintly Fauci previously said the gain of function engineering was worth a pandemic. He also, without approval, funded gain of function research in China, despite it being banned in the US.

Then, of course, there's the issue of Biden and family being owned by China. He won't lift a finger to get to the truth, if China says NO.

NOW you're on to something! All 193 members of the UN collaborated to inflame the world-wide populace into ousting Donald Trump! From the smallest, most backward country to the likes of China, Russia, Iran, and even N Korea! Once sworn enemies, they have come together to pull the wool over the world's population about this COVID-19 thing... and all to ensure Trump didn't win re-election!

Why, it's the most impressive conspiracy I've ever even heard of! Even Alien Invaders wouldn't get such a unified response from every-single-country in the world!

You're delusional (or an idiot... or both)

@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@buffboybryan

LOL.

I refuse to accept the lies a liberal says because they are liars. Their actions tell the truth.

I do notice you have a single narrative. You think that if liberals don't support my stance, I should not post it.

Clearly, you have no clue exactly why Liz Cheney had to go. Maybe you should look it up.

Your silence on countless matters that I have posted about shows what your stance is.

LOL, you are such a clueless clown. No one is blaming Hillary for our lives. Hillary is proof that if you are a liberal, you can get away with anything.

Of course, you are too stupid to get any of this since you only listen to MSM.

You are SO GOOD at telling other people WHAT they are and WHAT they believe... if you had a clue about yourself, maybe you could talk intelligently about your own ideas...

@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth

Trump only wanted people to treat him like they did other presidents.

They did not. He had about 15 times the leaks that other Presidents had.

96+% of the reporting about him was negative, even to the point that they lied about him at every turn.

The fact that you don't seem to know this proves to me that you are not a conservative.

@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth

Trump only wanted people to treat him like they did other presidents.

They did not. He had about 15 times the leaks that other Presidents had.

96+% of the reporting about him was negative, even to the point that they lied about him at every turn.

The fact that you don't seem to know this proves to me that you are not a conservative.

Trump overall had more media coverage than any other President.
In his time, Obama had more media coverage than any other President.
In his time, Reagan had more media coverage than any other President.
In his time, Carter had more media coverage than any other President.

If you can't see the pattern... well, I don't suspect you will. But, Trump, unlike previous Presidents, didn't bristle at the coverage, he reveled in it! And he (as most people in Marketing know already) knew that there was a wide-line between "good" publicity and "bad" - and that nearly ALL publicity is good!

Being the butt of every late-night talk-show host's jokes wasn't new. Complaining about it - in the media - was new. (Other President's eviscerated by the "comedy circuit" date back to our origins... the first President to really "adjust" to it was, ironically, Richard Nixon - who appeared on a TV show (Laugh-In) that regularly lampooned him! (Sock-It-To-Me!)

And, quite honestly, it worked for Trump! All that media coverage made him one of the most polarizing people of our time! There are few people EVER in American History that have more people diametrically opposed in their opinions of him! You would be hard-pressed to find an American who didn't have strong views - pro or con - about Trump!

Contrary to your insistence otherwise, I do not hate Trump. I disavow his politics as autocratic and borderline fascist... and I think he was harmful to our democratic form of Government. But, I don't think he's evil (nor, is he a mastermind - more of a megalomaniac who came upon the Political Stage at an opportune [for him] time).

@manhandler said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:

@bi4smooth For starters, he didn't have to demand fealty. He got it. His "sexist, racist, nationalistic policies" led to more hispanics, african americans, women, etc to be employed than ever before. Just stop. You're wrong.

You're deluded.

We can agree we disagree with each other?

Can we agree not to bring it up farther? I find you tiring and exhausting.

@manhandler said in FL Judge declares masks unconstitutional.:

@bi4smooth

And Covid Vaccines are now the deadliest vaccine in human history.

https://banned.video/watch?id=60d26d34ec813220f50e5ec7

And the Chicken-Pox vaccine causes Autism...
You go boy!

@manhandler said in 2nd Reporter goes to Veritas, exposing Media censorship of Truth:

@bi4smooth In case you didn't notice! One of those links I provided was to NIH.GOV. I guess you didn't notice.

In case you didn't notice, your NIH article was from 2020.
In case you didn't notice, the science on COVID-19 is moving quickly - as we're learning more and more daily ... and that means a LOT of what we thought early was wrong (like contact transmission? Why aren't we wiping down our groceries any longer? Because we know *better now!...

Science!

In case you didn't notice, I never said it wasn't effective as ANYTHING - just not against COVID-19 (esp once you get actually SICK from it).

And, in case you didn't notice, I never claimed that we didn't legitimately believe - for a short while - that it would be effective. Unfortunately, the evidence that it worked turned out to be mostly anecdotal, and didn't bear closer scrutiny or testing.... not that it was worthless: it does help in the very early stages - e.g. if you test positive for COVID-19 and have few, if any, symptoms at all yet.

Science was wrong (as it often is)... but it corrected itself!

For a humorous reflection on how Science gets is wrong sometimes, take a listen to Mike Rowe's podcast "The Way I Heard It" - Episodes 181 and 185

@raphjd said in Joe Biden WRECKS the Economy:

@manhandler

I support trans people who just want to live their lives.

I despise trans-trenders.

Yeah... those queer folk are fine so long as they don't do anything in public

@manhandler said in Alyssa Milano swoops in as Hero after Gay Rights Won.:

@raphjd Yea, it's just the liberal mentality in general when talking about issues like race and sexuality... oblivious. Alyssa Milano wants to act like a superhero, but the war for equality was settled when gays were allowed to marry, and that was many years ago. Now it's super easy for people like her. There's no struggle so it just looks pathetic. She's a washed up celebrity looking for attention and praise. It's the definition of self-centered. It's not about gay rights. It's about her, and it's lazy.

A LOT of celebrities are crazy...

• Charlie Sheen?
• Paris Hilton? (How did that crazy bitch get famous enough for people to care?)
• Shia LaBeouf
• Lindsay Lohan
• Kanye West
• Mel Gibson
• Gary Busey
  ... sheesh - this list got long fast! And I wasn't even TRYING!

Honestly, this list is missing one nut-job celebrity.... Donald Trump LOL

@raphjd said in Y Libs SO silent? They can't answer!:

@bi4smooth

Ah, so according to our resident fake conservative, discussing voter fraud is automatically about Trump.

It can't have anything to do with liberals being hypocrites and demanding audits and recounts in areas that they lost in. Let's not forget, you defended Democrats demanding recounts if they lost.

Clearly, you won't stop talking about your BFF, Pelosi's panties in every thread.

Show me a case of a loser (other than Trump) insisting on a recount after the election had been certified.

Couching your "Trump was robbed" message behind a thinly-veiled "this is about generic voter fraud" claims is so transparent as to be stupid.

@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:

@manhandler

Liberals want to stop the audit because they have plenty to hide.

It's not about Trump, but protecting future voter fraud so they can stay in power.

No one's trying to stop the audit. There are no court challenges, there are no protests. You're arguing against a straw man.

No one pretends that the outcome of this partisan effort wasn't known ahead of time. Only the details remain to be seen. The real question is: just how far off the deep-end will they go? The farther they go, the less credible their results will be... but if they don't go far enough there may not be lucrative add-on contracts (with other States?) to follow! They need a balance!

But I say again: the "real" audits were done by the elections professionals - who, in AZ, happen to be Republicans.

@raphjd said in "You Trump supporters are TERRORISTS!" Roll eyes. Ridiculous.:

@bi4smooth said in "You Trump supporters are TERRORISTS!" Roll eyes. Ridiculous.:

@raphjd said in "You Trump supporters are TERRORISTS!" Roll eyes. Ridiculous.:

Oh yeah, even our resident fake conservative believes Trump supporters are evil.

Of course, he believes that he is wonderful because he voted for Honest Joe and Camel Toe.

Prior to Trump, the US Justice Dept was considered as a-political as you could be in Government Service. Nixon tried to turn it into his own political "army", but was rebuked by the career professionals. Trump tried to do the same, and was not met with as-much resistance.

One of the few actions Biden has taken that I can actually agree with is that he's ordered the Justice Dept to be re-de-politicized, and those career professionals who went along with the Trumpy, partisan crap (like seizing phone and email records of political enemies - and even political "friends", just so you can "assuage any doubts" you might have about their loyalty) will face professional sanctions.

There is politics - to some extent - in every area of Government, but the Justice Dept (and, by inheritance, the FBI) should be an area of the Government where outright partisan activity should be banned, avoided, and bum-rushed out the door!

Assuming Raphjd's comment about "resident fake conservative" is about me (that may be self-aggrandizing, but hey...) - I do not think Trumpites are evil, just that they're easily manipulated and intellectually lazy.

That's a joke (though, when the joke is at your expense, y'all seem to have absolutely no sense of humor!

Seriously, I've said before that I believe that even the insurrectionists of Jan 6 thought they were doing their patriotic duty - even if it was criminal and anti-democratic. Evil? no. Dumb (in some instances), maybe. Under the influence of evil people? Likely. (I believe the whole QAnon thing is run by a foreign government to destabilize our country - and it's working!)

You are an idiot or a blatant liar.

The FBI and other government orgs were extremely political before Trump became President.

Trump was not President before he was being spied on, based on lies and altered emails. The FBI lied to the FISA courts, so they could spy on Trump.

Hillary had more Russian collusion than Trump did.

The DOJ allowed Hillary to violate US law with the private email server.

Don't worry, we already know you are gonna spew some leftist bullshit to claim Orange Man Bad and that Hillary did nothing wrong.

You have the memory of a gnat (whose entire lifespan is about 7 days)...
I voted for Trump in 2016. That election, like the 2020 one, was (for me) more about protecting the country against one candidate than it was about voting for another. (I supported John Kasich in the primaries - canvased for him, held a fundraiser in my home for him).

Put any 3 people in a room and there will be some politics... but that doesn't mean you embrace and extend those political views - when your job is the FBI or the Justice Dept. Yes, there were examples of politics in both before Trump (it might have been a clue when I mentioned Nixon... who, this may come as a shocker to you: was the 37th President of the US.. and 37 is less than 45, so that means he was President before Trump)... No President before Trump had attempted to use the FBI and Justice Dept as a political weapon more than Nixon. Trump took what Nixon did and amped it up on steroids! It was wrong, regardless of your political beliefs. Politics and Criminal Justice shouldn't go together - at least not easily. Can they be kept completely apart? Only a Liberal would think such an ideal was possible in the Real World... but you can work to REDUCE its influence... and that's the tack a Conservative would take.

@manhandler said in Judge Joe Brown says Biden called Black People "Cockroaches.":

@bi4smooth Your excuses for your poor judgement on voting day are pathetic. You voted for a racist. And now, you're not calling him out on it, like justice should be carried out. You are making excuses for accepting personal responsibility for your actions to vote in a racist. You can't admit you made a mistake.

I voted for a democratic-socialist because my only other real choice was an autocratic-fascist.

I call out Biden and Harris all the time - but not for made-up shit like what you seem to like to come up with... I can be against his politics without making him (and her) out to be the Anti-Christ.

(Oh, and I don't make fun of people's religious beliefs either - not about "magical underwear", nor about "lightning" magically writing on tablets, nor about unfaithful women giving "miraculous" birth to a fatherless child. Attacks against someone's religion are base, borne of stupidity and ignorance, and are inherently Un-American).

@raphjd said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:

@bi4smooth

How idiotic.

Of course, you need to consider the VP.

I do love how you need to use mental gymnastics to justify voting for the person that holds the same values you do.

You keep reminding us that you are a liberal collectivist, not a "conservative libertarian".

When a vocal advocate for cancel culture gets caught, you actively defend them to the hilt while never saying a word as that person actively cancels a conservative.

More of the same-shit, still in the same bucket.
I don't support cancel-culture when used against Liberals, I don't support cancel culture when used against Conservatives.

But let's go farther:

• I don't support cancel culture when used against Nazis
• I don't support cancel culture when used against Socialists
• I don't support cancel culture when used against pedophiles
• I don't support cancel culture when used against murderers - even mass murderers.

I do not like Cancel Culture, I do not like it, Sam-I-Am!

That doesn't mean I don't think people who do bad things shouldn't be punished... I just don't think "cancel culture" (where the general public, just on anyone's whim when it happens to "go-viral", decides on a punishment) is an acceptable way of determining the level of punishment.

The fact that I decry cancel culture when you support it against a Liberal doesn't mean I support the liberal - no, only that I do not support trying to use "social media" or "public pressure" to meet out punishment...

Indeed, I would posit that I don't *even support cancel culture when used against YOU!

@manhandler said in I love Infowars and Donald Trump, and I'm Gay.:

@bi4smooth Biden is probably droppin diarrhea dookies and asking the SS to clean it up for him. That's worse than Trump? Killing jobs by the hundreds of thousands? That's worse than Trump? Massive spending and tax hikes... A dude who said the N word live on TV 13 times? That's worse? Want to takeover elections so the party in power of the Fed controls State Elections forever, ending the country? Or how about reducing CO2 to zero? Trees breath CO2. It's idiocy. It's lunacy. And why is Trump worse? Because he "demands" fealty, or loyalty. Which he gets anyway. And his racist policies that caused the highest employment of blacks, hispanics, and asians - of all time? Yea, you're ridiculous is what you are.

You can disagree with my reasoning, but yes... I choose a democratic-socialist over an autocratic-fascist.... and I would do it again.

@raphjd said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:

@bi4smooth

You seriously need to stop sniffing Pelosi's panties.

The Democrats spent a good part of 2017-18, and virtually ALL of 2019 trying to prove that Trump's win in 2016 was illegitimate.

At no point did they presume that, in proving that he cheated (with the Russians, or wherever), anyone other than Mike Pence would become President.

They were persistent and overreaching - even desperate - but they weren't delusional.

Remove Biden for any reason, and you get Harris. There is nothing - anywhere, any-how - that would provide for Trump being put back into office.... with the single exception being the natural one: that he wins in a different election: 2024, 2028, or whenever.

@raphjd said in Google's Head of Diversity - Oh My!!!:

@bi4smooth

I think you are describing Special Rights, under the guise of equality.

Your type of "conservatives" said that marriage equality is where everyone is equal in their ability to marry a person of the opposite sex.

Me on the other hand, I say marriage equality is being able to marry the person you are attracted to and love.

Equality is NOT what Honest Joe and Camel Toe are doing by being racist toward whites. You voted for anti-white racism.

You continually claim I voted for Biden because I agreed with his politics.
I repeatedly describe how that's not true.

Same shit, same bucket.
Empty it yourself this time... I'm tired of typing the same replies over and over.

BTW: I've never mentioned it before, but your reference to Kamala Harris as "camel toe" is offensive to women - and to anyone who cares about treating other humans with even a sliver of respect. I may not agree with her Politics, but she is the VP of the country, and 1 heartbeat away from being the 47th President of the US. Call her dishonest, call her Hubris Harris... but camel toe (referring to her genitalia) is offensive.

@raphjd said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

@manhandler

But our resident fake conservative loves censorship when it blocks conservative voices.

He like that back in the 1st time Congress held hearing about "big tech" censorship, of the 23 politicians that were banned from social media, only 1 was a liberal.

He loves the fact that "big tech", despite their lies about free speech, refuse to allow discussion that is outside of their world view, while enjoying 230 protection.

He loves that "big tech" acts as a publisher and a platform while, in extremely bad faith, enjoying 230 protections.

He loves that FB and Twitter are far, far more guilty of allowing organizing riots and other crimes, including the worst event in the entire human history; 6 Jan 2021, but Parler got taken down and falsely accused of what liberal tech was actually guilty of.

He claims to be a "conservative libertarian" while telling us that we need to fall, lock step in line with the liberal utopian collective. There isn't a liberal dogma that he won't defend.

Thanks again for assigning to me a position that I've never taken. This would be akin to my ascribing to you the position that the US Government should take over operations for Twitter, Google, and Facebook.

I am not in favor of censorship, but I am in favor of "individual rights" - even for Corporations.

When Twitter suspended Trump, I was not a fan of the move. I've never said they did the right thing, only that it was within their rights to do it. Sadly, I do not sit on the Board at Twitter, nor am I a stockholder... in fact, I'm not even a subscriber! Thus, I don't think Twitter cares any more than you do about what I think of their action.

However, they are a private enterprise, and are free to (within some limits) run their business how they see fit. And if that means they decline allowing certain people (and it's not based on some protected class) access to their platform, that is within their rights. (That is exactly the same principle as the Supreme Court ruled when they supported the right of the wedding cake shop to decline the customer who wanted a gay wedding cake.)

Your frequent claim of 1st Amendment rights in this case are moot: the 1st Amendment applies to Governments, not corporations (or individuals).

You also like to harp on "230 protections" - which some services (like Twitter, Facebook, and the YouTube part of Google) would need to have in order to be actually viable. Take away the 230 protections, and Twitter would need to hire thousands of "editors" to "review" every post to confirm that they don't break any laws that Twitter might be found in violation of, were it NOT FOR 230 protections....
In such a world, your Twitter post might become public in 2-minutes, 2-hours, or 2-months... depending on how far backed-up they were in their processing. And completely forget YouTube: more video is uploaded in a DAY at YouTube than a single person could watch in some number of YEARS (I've heard that statistic as 1 year, 5 years, and 10 years - all are plausible if you consider how YouTube is growing).

You want the Internet? You gotta accept it for what it is: a mix of free-minded, free-spirited individuals in-it-for-the-fun-of-it, and corporations in-it-for-the-money! I can assure you that, if sufficient subscribers dropped Twitter in favor of Trumpster, Twitter would change their tune!

And finally, I will briefly repeat that your argument about Parler is absurd on its face - if for no other reason than because it's alive-and-well - right now - on another platform. One of thousands of available platforms that are in competition with AWS. Parler was removed from AWS the same way HUNDREDS of AWS clients are "de-platformed" every day - for being in consistent and repeated violation of their Terms of Service. Parler just cried louder than the others - and for no reason but the publicity. IF the de-platforming had come as a complete surprise (it wasn't), it might have taken their tech team 48-hours to have transferred everything to another platform. Depending on how much data was involved, it might just as easily have been done in 2-4 hours (yes, two-to-four, not 24). When AWS de-platforms you, they disconnect your systems from the Internet - they don't confiscate your data!

Your repeated claims - disproven each time - that their is a mass conspiracy focused solely on Trump is tired and overworn. Find a new song... I'm tired of this one.