Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it
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Well over a decade ago, I posted here that liberals love "whataboutisms" when their guy is in office, but they demand that the other side can never ever do it.
When GWB was in office, it was totally off-limits to mention Clinton.
When Obama was in office, it was ok to bring up GWB at every turn.
When Trump was in office, it was totally off-limits to mention Obama.
Now that Biden is in office, it absolutely fine to bring up Trump in every thread.
Liberals never change.
To paraphrase Forrest Gump; Stupid is as liberals do.
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Extremely liberal Tom Hanks (Forrest Gump) is not liberal enough for the liberals! Now they are attacking him!
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Same logic goes for things like confirming SCOTUS nominees and nuking the filibusters -- a moral imperative when the Left is in power, and a Threat to Democracy
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@jsl76 said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
Same logic goes for things like confirming SCOTUS nominees and nuking the filibusters -- a moral imperative when the Left is in power, and a Threat to Democracy
when the Right does it.Hypocrisy in Washington is as difficult to find as water in the Atlantic. But it is not the exclusive realm of Dems or Republicans...
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@bi4smooth Joe Biden sucks.
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@manhandler said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
@bi4smooth Joe Biden sucks.
No argument there. Still better than Trump tho... can't they BOTH be awful?
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Do you really hate Trump because he's not a war hawk?
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@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
Do you really hate Trump because he's not a war hawk?
I do not *hate Trump. But, I dislike about Trump:
- His demands for complete fealty are fascist (or at least fascist-like)
- His sexist, racist, & nationalist policies are equally un-American
- His inability to accept defeat - with honor - is childish (I seriously doubt that he has any honor)
- He brought dishonor (even disgrace) to the office of the Presidency, and demeaned our country on the World Stage
- He politicized medical science (COVID-19 response, or denial/lack thereof) in a way that hasn't been seen since abortion-rights campaigns in the 1970s. That's going to go down in history as one of his worst moves, and quite likely what historians will attribute as a major cause of his defeat in 2020.
That said, there were things I liked about Trump:
- His trade policies were hard-line and pro-American - even if detrimental to some businesses (esp. farmers) (There's no such thing as a perfect trade policy!)
- His economic policies were pro-business (I own my own business), and proved to be quite successful at maintaining what was already an awesome period of expansion. Only something like COVID-19 could have stopped it... and that's exactly what it did.
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Trump only wanted people to treat him like they did other presidents.
They did not. He had about 15 times the leaks that other Presidents had.
96+% of the reporting about him was negative, even to the point that they lied about him at every turn.
The fact that you don't seem to know this proves to me that you are not a conservative.
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@bi4smooth For starters, he didn't have to demand fealty. He got it. His "sexist, racist, nationalistic policies" led to more hispanics, african americans, women, etc to be employed than ever before. Just stop. You're wrong.
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@manhandler said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
@bi4smooth For starters, he didn't have to demand fealty. He got it. His "sexist, racist, nationalistic policies" led to more hispanics, african americans, women, etc to be employed than ever before. Just stop. You're wrong.
You're deluded.
We can agree we disagree with each other?
Can we agree not to bring it up farther? I find you tiring and exhausting.
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@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
Trump only wanted people to treat him like they did other presidents.
They did not. He had about 15 times the leaks that other Presidents had.
96+% of the reporting about him was negative, even to the point that they lied about him at every turn.
The fact that you don't seem to know this proves to me that you are not a conservative.
@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
Trump only wanted people to treat him like they did other presidents.
They did not. He had about 15 times the leaks that other Presidents had.
96+% of the reporting about him was negative, even to the point that they lied about him at every turn.
The fact that you don't seem to know this proves to me that you are not a conservative.
Trump overall had more media coverage than any other President.
In his time, Obama had more media coverage than any other President.
In his time, Reagan had more media coverage than any other President.
In his time, Carter had more media coverage than any other President.If you can't see the pattern... well, I don't suspect you will. But, Trump, unlike previous Presidents, didn't bristle at the coverage, he reveled in it! And he (as most people in Marketing know already) knew that there was a wide-line between "good" publicity and "bad" - and that nearly ALL publicity is good!
Being the butt of every late-night talk-show host's jokes wasn't new. Complaining about it - in the media - was new. (Other President's eviscerated by the "comedy circuit" date back to our origins... the first President to really "adjust" to it was, ironically, Richard Nixon - who appeared on a TV show (Laugh-In) that regularly lampooned him! (Sock-It-To-Me!)
And, quite honestly, it worked for Trump! All that media coverage made him one of the most polarizing people of our time! There are few people EVER in American History that have more people diametrically opposed in their opinions of him! You would be hard-pressed to find an American who didn't have strong views - pro or con - about Trump!
Contrary to your insistence otherwise, I do not hate Trump. I disavow his politics as autocratic and borderline fascist... and I think he was harmful to our democratic form of Government. But, I don't think he's evil (nor, is he a mastermind - more of a megalomaniac who came upon the Political Stage at an opportune [for him] time).
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You know what I love. I love how people want to complain about Liberals and then they complain about something by telling Liberals (incorrectly BTW) what they do. Maybe try learning about Liberals from knowing Liberals. Even though I have many conservative friends and the whole rest of my family. I don't assume that makes up ALL conservatives., I sure as hell know that I don't even like to refer to the current Right Wing as conservative. Since it's this mindset that is there now. A group that keep blaming everything they dont like in the world on the fault of Liberals. I mean, What do you feel you gained by this post? I'm sure that you will have any of the people who think just like you all have to think (or else they get ya, ask Liz Cheney) Then they think because all of them are required to have to think the same ideology as Trump, that the Left is like that. Learn about a group of people rather than tell them incorrectly what they do and think. Which i am sure you saw this on a Trump group and was like "I will steal that and people will think im so politically savvy"
Your post literally does nothing but complain that every time the Dems get in Office its right after the Republican screwed things up. So no one is going "What about Trump". And no one is telling you that you cant speak negative about anyone I mean it makes more sense to complain about Trump than when Trump got in office and a couple years later we still hear people blaming Hilary for their lives. You can say what ever you want about the Democrats in your list. Since you cant really show the Republican ones did anything. We only mention Trump it seems when we are undoing the crap he did. Oh and because he's being investigated for criminal charges since hes not in office anymore. And there is that whole Capital riot thing. Thats why Trump is mentioned.
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@bi4smooth Oh i hate the man. I didnt like him before but I hate him for the friends Ive lost to that QAnon insanity.
This person clearly cant see how they shouldnt have posted this, because it comes off incredibly ignorant of reality. Its fine though. keep em busy so that the current administration can get stuff done. -
@bi4smooth Oh please. All the media fealty Obama got was much higher. They actually called him the "First Gay President," even though it was the Supreme Court who legalized gay marriage. And he was an in your face communist agent.
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UMM, I know you are too dumb to realize it, but 96% of Trump's coverage was negative and mostly lies.
"Sources familiar with Trump's way of thinking" and the like were quoted as proof that Trump was even.
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LOL.
I refuse to accept the lies a liberal says because they are liars. Their actions tell the truth.
I do notice you have a single narrative. You think that if liberals don't support my stance, I should not post it.
Clearly, you have no clue exactly why Liz Cheney had to go. Maybe you should look it up.
Your silence on countless matters that I have posted about shows what your stance is.
LOL, you are such a clueless clown. No one is blaming Hillary for our lives. Hillary is proof that if you are a liberal, you can get away with anything.
Of course, you are too stupid to get any of this since you only listen to MSM.
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@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
LOL.
I refuse to accept the lies a liberal says because they are liars. Their actions tell the truth.
I do notice you have a single narrative. You think that if liberals don't support my stance, I should not post it.
Clearly, you have no clue exactly why Liz Cheney had to go. Maybe you should look it up.
Your silence on countless matters that I have posted about shows what your stance is.
LOL, you are such a clueless clown. No one is blaming Hillary for our lives. Hillary is proof that if you are a liberal, you can get away with anything.
Of course, you are too stupid to get any of this since you only listen to MSM.
You are SO GOOD at telling other people WHAT they are and WHAT they believe... if you had a clue about yourself, maybe you could talk intelligently about your own ideas...
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Umm, you keep telling me what I believe and have said, but that's ok, you're a liberal so you can do no wrong in your "mind".
You know more about what QAnon says, yet you keep trying to portray me as one of their followers. I've only ever heard of pizza-gate and I know the pizzeria in question doesn't have a basement.
You claim Tucker Carlson is a liar, but you claim you never ever watch his show. Not shockingly, you spew proven liar talking points from the scum bags like Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, the losers at CNN, and countless others.
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@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
Umm, you keep telling me what I believe and have said, but that's ok, you're a liberal so you can do no wrong in your "mind".
You know more about what QAnon says, yet you keep trying to portray me as one of their followers. I've only ever heard of pizza-gate and I know the pizzeria in question doesn't have a basement.
You claim Tucker Carlson is a liar, but you claim you never ever watch his show. Not shockingly, you spew proven liar talking points from the scum bags like Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, the losers at CNN, and countless others.
Count them, please (I have never, knowingly, quoted Rachel Maddow - I don't HAVE cable, so I can't watch her show). I have never called Tucker Carlson a liar about a single thing I've heard him say on-air - because I don't have cable, and can't watch his show. I guess I could READ CNN online... and I don't even know why Joy Reid is.. she's a D-List newsy at best...
I've provided my international sources before... but, of course, they're all liberal to you! The WSJ is too liberal for you!
