@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
Except for liberal ones.
I'm willing to look at anything and let the fact go where they may, not automatically reject something because of who says it.
I listed just as many Liberal as Conservative political hacks I don't care to watch or listen to...
@raphjd said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:
LOL, you still call Trump an "authoritarian fascist". You are so damned funny in your clown costume. Did Pelosi help you pick it out?
Let's not forget that it was YOUR boy, honest Joe that signed more Executive Orders than all the previous Presidents since Cart, combined in his first 100 days. Honest Joe even said that if you rule by executive order, you are a dictator. Guess what that makes Honest Joe.
Blah, blah, blah to the rest of your post. It's more of the same tired old "but muh tv told me to hate the Orange Man".
I've never claimed to be a Biden SUPPORTER, only admitted that I voted for him because Trump would have been worse. I have never stated any kind of hatred for Trump - disdain, yet... hate, no.
Presidents since Nixon have been writing more and more EO's than their predecessors... We complained in the Clinton administration (once we gained control of the Congress), the Dems complained in the Bush admistration (once the Dems gained control of Congress), we complained about Obama (who SHATTERED the old records) once he lost control of Congress, and the Dems complained about Trump (who SHATTERED Obama's records!)...
That the pattern continues should come as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention since before 2016 (that would, apparently exclude you)... As with his predecessors, most of Biden's EOs are just reversals of his predecessor's EOs. The problem THERE is with Congress... if they'd pass LEGISLATION regarding these areas, there would be no "room" for all the EOs... But Congress is so polarized right now (and with compromise becoming a bad-word), the likelihood is that Biden's successor (hopefully a Republican!) will break all of his records as well!
Trump isn't an Authoritarian Fascist because of his EOs, but rather his demands for ALWAYS getting HIS way, complete and total fealty and loyalty - to him above all else, and his dogged claims that he and he alone is the solution to all our problems.
@manhandler said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:
@bi4smooth Man, you sure do talk a lot about yourself. You're always on defense. "I have never," "I would never," etc. But when Joe Biden does something terrible or stupid your answer is always the same, "he's better than Trump." That's not an answer. That's a straw man. You aren't addressing Lori Lightfoot. You aren't addressing Cuomo. You aren't addressing Whitmer. You aren't addressing Newsome. You aren't addressing Pelosi, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. You don't address that all liberal cities comprise of the most dangerous criminal activity, the highest pollution, the lowest employment, the lowest education scores, the highest homeless populations, etc and it goes on! All you do is say that they're better than Trump, because "Trump demands fealty." It's annoying and lame. You sir, are just fucking lame.
You and @raphjd suck out all the oxygen out of the room with your constant Trumpian lies... where is there time to talk about other things?
I have, repeatedly, warned that Biden's give-aways are inflationary, and will ruin an economy that lasted through 2 prior administrations (Obama and Trump). I have suggested that Cuomo should be impeached for his assaults against women. (No, impeachment isn't cancel-culture...). I'm not following Lightfoot or Whitmer or Newsome (though I am aware the latter is facing a recall).
This may surprise you, but I pay attention to my fellow Republicans! I don't focus on Liberals in office because other than trying to defeat their re-election, I don't care. Those are other States, and I have far too much ELSE to do than fixate on what a bunch of pie-in-the-sky liberals are whining about (or being hypocritical about - a Democrat specialty!)
But all you want to talk about is Trump's return to power, and the stolen election (called The Big Lie - even by Republicans - for a reason!)...
@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
@bi4smooth said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
You aren't interested, but you are interested in everything QAnon says.
You slag off Tucker and said the only thing he might be able to get right is his name, yet you never, ever watch his show. So how do you know?! Who is spoon-feeding you this info? Did you just pick a random name to call a liar? Some douchebag had to tell you this stuff. I'm guessing someone from the Squad, or maybe it's printed on Pelosi's panties.
This is not the Straw Man you are looking for...
Again, you attribute things to me that are demonstrably untrue. Not being interested in Tucker Carlson's show is not equivalent to being a Liberal Democrat.
Clearly not what I said.
You slag off Tucker and said the only thing he might be able to get right is his name, yet you never, ever watch his show. So how do you know?! Who is spoon-feeding you this info? Did you just pick a random name to call a liar? Some douchebag had to tell you this stuff. I'm guessing someone from the Squad, or maybe it's printed on Pelosi's panties.
I don't give a damn about Tucker Carlson - you can sniff his panties all night long for all I care. But he continues to make false and baseless claims about the election results... and he's as partisan as they come.
Look, he lies - and so do the other partisan hacks out there - like Bill Mahr, Sean Hannity, Rachel Maddow, and the list goes on... I don't pay attention to such biased viewpoints, but that doesn't mean I'm deaf either!
The problem with many of these (and the process started with Rush) is that they make such WILDLY false and outlandish claims, that they themselves become the story. Any news commentator or reporter who makes themselves the story is no longer news and become "entertainment" - and are as "real" as WWE.
@manhandler said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:
@bi4smooth Oh please. Like Al Gore? Or Stacey Abrams? What exactly makes it uniquely Trumpian? You're just out there in La La Land.
You're an idiot. Not all Trumpites are idiots (I try not to make generalizations like that)... but you? Yup! An Idiot with a capital I...
Al Gore was butt-hurt when he lost - and he complained a lot, but he didn't make claims after the Electoral College vote...
Stacy Abrams was butt-hurt when she lost - and given that her opponent was actually the Secretary of State at the time (and didn't recuse himself), she may have actually had a point... but she didn't make claims after the election results were certified...
Trump was butt-hurt when he lost... but he, in his unique "sore-loser" way, still - to this day - wants to make claims about the results. THAT is where he is unique....
That you can't see that is a testament to your extremist views and complete lack of intellectual competency.
@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
Steven Crowder did prove massive voter fraud in a couple of videos, but liberal YouTube got butt hurt.
If you didn't actually support illegal voting, you would have looked at his videos on the topic and looked at the evidence he presented.
You don't care because Trump lost. You don't care how or why just that he lost. That is your extreme mental illness at work.
You insist that I believe your Trumpite partisan sources, but dismiss any other partisan sources.
I dismiss ALL partisan sources.
@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth No, he didn't lose. The Democrats committed fraud and treason, and the evidence is overwhelming, and most of the country knows this is a fact. There is so much evidence that to act like none of it is real is extraordinarily pathetic and delusional.
So much evidence - none of which is (or was) admissible in a Court.
Look, I was open to this idea that there was something crazy going on for the first week or so after the election... but time and again, the campaign went into court and had NOTHING to show!
Elections professionals in this country (generally speaking) do a great job - and year after year, things get better and better (easier to vote, less and less fraud). That pattern was maintained in 2020.
@raphjd said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
You are a dishonest buffoon. You really are.
We already discussed several cases of long-term voter fraud by election officials or have you forgot?!
We had the woman election official in Wayne County MI admit to election fraud for every election, for over 20 years.
Broward County FL had over 3 decades of election fraud by their top election officials. Jeb Bush even had to appoint a replacement for one of them, only for this appointee (Brenda Snipes) to turn out to be the dirtiest of the lot. These assholes were extremely dirty and so were the people they hired.
We had that woman south of San Antonio who was openly paying for votes, with cash from the candidates. There was even a fake Republican multi-millionaire who wanted everyone to vote straight party line for Democrats. Project Veritas busted her.
We had that guy from Ilhan Omar's district buying ballots. Your beloved MSM said he didn't break the law because the anti-ballot harvesting law was "on hold", which was a total lie. They also ignored the fact that the guy filmed himself buying blank but signed ballots. Project Veritas busted this corruption too.
There was one county (can't remember which) where the Sheriff and his deputies illegally handled ballots that contained the Sheriff's election. People were even arrested for questioning this illegal practice. The Sheriff, despite being very unpopular, won by a wide margin.
We (you and I) have discussed these people and more here. I, and others, have posted about others that you may or may not have discussed, but I can't remember if you did or not.
Oh, and let's not forget the NJ district where the judge ruled the election was so fraudulent that the entire election had to be done over again, except for the President, because Biden won that district's vote. Biden won the vote for President, so that MUST mean it was a clean election, but every other position up for election on the very same ballot was an absolute fraud. Only a fucking brain-dead clown would believe that crackheaded shit. And YES, you defended this shit, so that is just another thing that proves you have absolutely no credibility.
There are kids cheating on their summer school tests today in the USA!
That doesn't mean the American Educational System is full of lying, cheating kids who are graduating as illiterate, math-phobic, science-disbelieving, morons (most do not aspire to your personal heights of feats in these areas)...
No one (no reasonable person) is claiming that every single vote was legit - only that the number of illegal votes that "made it through the cracks" were not enough to sway the election in any direction.
To be clear: I personally do not make this claim... the Elections Professionals - in EVERY STATE make this claim! The only people alleging massive, outcome-changing fraud are the Trumpites - and at EVERY TURN, when asked for proof the only tangible thing they had was: their infallible, God-Like, Donald Trump lost... and he couldn't lose!
Were there illegal votes? Sure - some malicious, some accidental (Florida - in our own inimitable way granted, removed, re-granted, and then re-removed the voting rights of convicted felons who had served their sentences... and so some of them were confused and voted when they shouldn't have. Some were even arrested (for new felonies - attempted vote fraud!) by over-jealous police... but, to a case, prosecutors recognized the confusion and refused to prosecute even one.)
The entire educational system is not brought to its knees because some 12 y/o figured out how to cheat on a test and not be caught... and our entire elections process is not invalidated because some individuals scattered about the country have claimed (true or not) that they beat the system.
With or without illegal votes (and how Trumpian of you to assume that all of those illegal votes were against Trump!)
@raphjd said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:
Like your BFF, Stacey Abrams, and the DNC are still claiming that Trump stole the 2016 election, via Russian Collusion and actual voter fraud.
Your extreme TDS makes you a clown that can't be respected. No matter what the evidence shows, you just see "Orange Man Bad" because some liberal ass clowns told you that.
You love Honest Joe and the leg spreader. Honest Joe has spent the last 50 years being a liar, corrupt, a racist, and a homophobe. He's a fake as fuck catholic, as he is anti virtually every one of their core tenets. Even back when GWB was saying "Love the sinner, hate the sin", Honest Joe was hating LGBT people, not just the sin.
You justify voter fraud because it helped your guy win. If Trump won, you'd be screeching for recounts and audits. It's all part of your mental illness.
This is not the Straw Man you're looking for...
I did not say Trump stole the 2016 election - I voted for him in 2016!
I said the Dems thought he did... and that they were smarter than the Trumpites, because they turned to legitimate ways to limit his Presidency (I did not agree with them, but one can recognize smart politics while disagreeing with them!)
I only wish I had the powers you attribute to me... But, I am not your Boggart (Harry Potter reference)...
And, for the record, "my guy" didn't win in 2016 or 2020... in both cases, they were eliminated in the primaries... and no, I don't throw temper tantrums when I lose... that is a uniquely Trumpite thing to do...
@raphjd said in Liberals love "whataboutisms" unless the other side does it:
You aren't interested, but you are interested in everything QAnon says.
You slag off Tucker and said the only thing he might be able to get right is his name, yet you never, ever watch his show. So how do you know?! Who is spoon-feeding you this info? Did you just pick a random name to call a liar? Some douchebag had to tell you this stuff. I'm guessing someone from the Squad, or maybe it's printed on Pelosi's panties.
Again, you attribute things to me that are demonstrably untrue. Not being interested in Tucker Carlson's show is not equivalent to being a Liberal Democrat.
@raphjd said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:
Yeah, but you forget that you claim to be a "conservative libertarian" while at the same time demanding that everyone be part of the liberal hivemind and create shrines to Honest Joe.
(waving hand calmly in front of your face)
I have never said I supported Joe Biden, only that I preferred him over the Authoritarian-Fascist that is Donald Trump... only in your twisted mind are those the same thing.
In your dogma, anyone not completely faithful to Trump is a RINO and a Liberal... your labels do not hurt me, because they do not "stick" to me...
There is not a bit of liberal dogma that you won't defend.
Obvious hyperbole - and being anti- "The Big Lie" doesn't make me a liberal. It makes me a realist.
You have defended more than a few liberals who actively pushed Cancel Culture from getting a dose of their own medicine when they get caught being hypocritical scum.
I have never - not once - supported Cancel Culture attacks against people - including Donald Trump. Your claims otherwise are sad, pathetic attempts to make me your straw-man boogey-man...
You want them protected, while I want them to get the equality they keep screaming for.
I believe that 2-wrongs do not make a right (though I do sometimes think Karma can be a bitch... Hear that Donald?)
Clearly, you are a typical racist white liberal who thinks blacks have no agency.
Another straw-man label. I swear, you think of me as your own personal Boggart (reference: Harry Potter monster who takes the form of your biggest fears)... I suggest you learn that I have no magical powers and I am not every form of evil that you fear in this world...
In my life, I was mugged at gunpoint twice (Chicago and Miami) by black guys. Your world view is that they didn't actually mug me, but my whiteness oppressed their guns into my face as they demanded my wallet.
I am sorry you were attacked... Since you only harp on a TINY FRACTION of my World View (the part that does against some of Trump Doctrine), you would have no idea what my views would be on that matter.
As with many other topics on here, you spout off (stupidly) against your Straw Man mask that you put on top of me...
@raphjd said in Y Libs SO silent? They can't answer!:
It doesn't matter if you "support" AOC directly or not, you are spewing the same crap she does on her Instagram.
The pair of you are a matching pair of liberal clowns. Maybe you should ask her to sponsor you as the newest member of the squad.
Well, again you attribute a source to me that I am not capable of using:
However,
Full disclosure: I looked up the most popular Social Media apps to generate this list - I'd never even heard of a few of those, and I didn't include some of the Chinese ones...
The point being - you have your "hoards of cannibal pedophiles" and "mind controlling big pharma" to be scared of.... I have my social media autobots (who target me with advertising targeted to my every move)... there's a boogey-man in everyone's life, I guess,
But those apps are all free for a reason - you are profiled by their algorithms, and then targeted. Not just with ads, you're also targeted with information - ANYTHING to keep you connected to their app longer!
@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@bi4smooth Again, nobody cares about your opinion, and to add, nobody cares about your feelings. Sorry. Big Pharma is a disgusting institution that you THINK is run by scientists, but have corporate boards, which you just don't get. You just don't get it.
If getting it means I have to live my life in fear of all the evils you have articulated over the past weeks (much less months), then I'm happy to live in oblivion...
Like I said: your life - as you describe it - really sucks.
@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth Oh, so you're basing your belief system off of politician's words. How stupid are you? I guess if it fits the narrative that you wanna believe, it's the truth. That isn't delusional AT ALL. Let's just all stand down and say, "the democrats and Rinos SAID, it's all good." They have no vested interest in power, whatsoever. Jesus you are fucking stupid.
You just do not understand our Government, do you....
There really isn't any excuse for your level of ignorance, given the vociferousness of your claims.
Supervisors of Elections are considered non-political. In many jurisdictions, the "party affiliation" of candidates is not allowed to be on the ballot. That doesn't mean that candidates cannot belong to a political party, but it does mean that the position is apolitical.
That said, just listen to yourself! I could understand a level of distrust if these Supervisors were Democrats... but they aren't! And in GA, the whole damned State is run by Republicans, save for the Atlanta area! They recounted the whole damned State - and Trump lost... so they counted again (manually) - and Trump STILL lost!
I get it: your definition of a "free and fair election" is one where your candidate wins, no matter what.
Yeah... that's the ticket! (You ARE a John Lovett fan, aren't you... come on, admit that, at least!)
@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@bi4smooth Oh, sure! You sound like a spokesperson for Big Pharma. You literally act like they're "science," when science changes every day. I'm not even reading everything you posted because you start out with nonsense nonsequitor bullshit. Oh yes, I'm sure you'll wait for the "reviewed research," by the same people that spout off all day that there are too many people and we're overpopulated and we're killing the Earth. They certainly are most definitely interested in your well-being and not their corporate trillions. God damn you're dumb.
I am educated enough to know about how dumb I really am... you, however, are just sad... is there any crackpot conspiracy theory you DON'T believe?
I must say, if we were to take as fact that we're both delusional, I'd much rather live in my delusion - where there aren't armies of cannibalistic pedophiles in positions of power trying to inject me with DNA-altering drugs...
I'm just saying: your life - your world - as you describe it, really sucks!
I'm glad I don't live in that world...
@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth Oh really? Then why bother with a forensic audit using science and technology? It's just a bunch of unhappy Trump supporters that are unhappy with the results and can't let it go. Bullshit. We know thousands of dead people voted. We know that there were more ballots than voters. We know lots of things. And you're delusional. It's the fox guarding the hen house and it's obvious. You're just wrong.
I don't claim to know all that much about the audits - I've not said that I have audited a single ballot.
I have repeated the statements of the Republican Supervisor of Elections of Maricopa County, AZ what she and her staff completed a machine recount "audit", and then a manual recount "audit" of the 2020 election results.... and found no evidence of fraud.
Those are her statements - I've never claimed them as otherwise.
The delusional part of this isn't the audit itself, but rather the belief that the result - whatever it is - is somehow going to trigger some cascade of events where Trump is reinstalled as President. THAT is delusional.
@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@hubrys Nope, I've had about 20 vaccines in my life, and this one is not by definition, a vaccine. It's just not. It modifies the genes and is totally different. It's not what you think it is, and you think that way because trillion dollar drug companies told you so.
You moron. The mRNA vaccines do not change the genetic material in your body!
The mRNA is how they make the vaccine, not what it does to you!
The resulting mRNA material is specially designed to "teach" your immune system to recognize a very specific protein as an "intruder"... that protein isn't the virus itself, just one component of the virus... but, since your body's immune system is already "attuned" to that protein, when the virus DOES invade the body, the immune system is "ready and waiting'.
Indeed, one of the reasons the vaccine is injected deep into your muscle (usually in your arm) is to prevent it (the vaccine itself) from spreading all over your body... the pain most people feel in the muscle where it is injected is because that's where the immune response is, and part of that immune response is inflammation.
If they wanted it to "course throughout your body" it would be injected into your bloodstream - like antibiotics are when you get them via "IV" injection.
And if I'm going to be gone by 2025, and literally HALF the US population is as well, then you're going to need an awful lot of immigrants to come in and make all this shit work! LOL
As for the crackpot who made the projection that those who took the vaccines would be dead by 2025, well he made an incredibly stupid remark given that the vaccines made by Moderna & Pfizer - while both utilizing the mRNA technology - are different (target different proteins), and that they are wholly unrelated to the "traditional" vaccines made by Johnson & Johnson, or the Russians, or the Chinese, or the Australians, or the Indians... indeed many other countries developed their OWN vaccines - ALL of which would be different from each other.
I'll begin to worry when reviewed research shows there are problems.
In the meantime, I'm protected from COVID-19, and a whole lot of Trumpites in Red States are getting sick again!
@manhandler said in FDA approves Alzheimer’s drug Aduhelm - the science doesn't matter:
@bi4smooth And what part of what you just said is factual? The part where you think Trump is a loser? Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion. It's like a snowflake, or an asshole.
You are moronic and (again) incapable of reasoned conversation.
Twice is enough.
@manhandler said in Why try to suppress the Audit? If it's all good...:
@bi4smooth No. They did not. Why don't you put your teeth where your mouth is and back up anything you say? You can't. You just claim crap that isn't true.
ROFL - A Trumpite, QAnon believer claiming others spout crap that isn't true.
Read any LEGITIMATE coverage of the Cyber Ninja audit - that includes the back-story of the Maricopa County Supervisor of Elections (a Republican), and you'll confirm my statement: they audited the results TWICE: once with a machine recount, and once in a manual recount.
The same happened in GA! Only in GA, it was STATEWIDE!
@manhandler said in AZ Lawmaker tells Garland that he BETTER NOT touch AZ ballots.:
@bi4smooth Everything you just said is your opinion. "Trump is a loser." Wow. I guess I'm incapable of arguing against your opinion! Wow. That makes you SUPER smart, doesn't it? You didn't insert one fact into all that opinion. You defend the Democrats calling them "smart." "Magical" is another word you use. Who the hell do you think you are? There are no numbers, no factual datas, no nothing. Just "sore loser" and "democrats impeached him" so it's "SORE." What part of that was factual? None of it. It's all your delusional "OPINION." "What remains to be seen is whether he has trashed the Trump Brand." Ok... So what part of what you just said is factual? None of it. Just none.
You truly are illiterate, aren't you...
Sad little man... sad...
For the record: The dems lost in 2016... (fact) and were mad as hell (opinion), because Hillary was supposed to win handily (fact). They were smart only in that they didn't match the lunacy of the Trumpian challenge to the whole electoral process (to Democracy itself!) (fact)...
And the "magical thinking" (opinion) is attributed to the Trumpites, like yourself, who think that Trump will somehow be re-installed as the rightful winner of the 2020 election. That is impossible (fact).
Trump lost in 2020 (fact). Trump is a loser (fact). Trump can't handle the fact that he lost (fact-based, but opinion-based as well). Trump is a sore-loser (opinion).
You're an idiot (opinion) for not being able to gleam this from the posting above (fact).