It clearly says "resist incivility" at the bottom of my banner.
You didn't initially say "resist incivility" and even if you did, it doesn't change the symbology and association anyway.
No issues whatsoever with your new banner. FWIW thanks for changing.
I support free speech, but I'm not sure whether individuals/groups should be able to trademark slurs which are covered under freedom of speech. Therefore, I have cognitive dissonance.
FTFY.
The Supreme Court has always applied the First Amendment to all speech, even that which others consider biased, prejudiced, or hateful. It is also the basis for the legality of flag-burning, neo-nazi demonstrations and other forms of radicalism. Not sure why the Trademark office tried to regulate "objectionable" phrases. I would hardly call this decision a defeat for liberals.
You are absolutely correct, SCOTUS has always upheld freedom of speech, even when the speech is considered a threatening opinion or hate speech. It is a ruling against liberals because it is liberals who are trying to eliminate and curtail freedom of speech - in the U.S. as well as Europe. I can cite many examples if you are interested.
I wonder if they did everything possible to ensure he would win like they did with Hillary.
CNN should change it's name to DNC News.
20 years ago CNN was one of the world's most respected news sources, now it's a fucking joke.
Saying that CNN is a joke is a major insult to jokes.
Btw, those people downvoting are essentially saying it is acceptable to attack Muslims and not have the President respond in a timely manner to such acts.
Why should Trump respond? It didn't even happen in the U.S. I mean, did Obama respond when North Korea kidnapped an American college student? Apparently not, since he's dead I guess.
How in the name of fuck is this a topic worth making? The moment you start to compare your opponents to an organisation like ISIS is the moment you're a fucking troll. If this is acceptable, go lie in the bed you've made and accept all the nasty shit people are going to say about Conservatives, being self-loathing homophobes and being goddamn racists who actively go out to kill black people.
Nothing in this topic has any content to discuss. It's a meaningless inflammatory statement. The only thing it does is add fuel to the fire. This is in no shape, way, or form helping this forum be about actual debate.
Fuck this topic and you should feel bad for making it.
It's more inflammatory when liberals bash people over the skull with bike locks. You'd know this if you understood how the human immune system works.
I was hoping that the thread would open a discussion on HOW to actually achieve more civility.
I already gave several concrete suggestions. It can be summed up as follows: don't be a hypocrite.
Is it any wonder that so few GT members choose to participate here?
No, it's not a wonder at all, it's because they can't. Most gays are vapid and don't have the wherewithal to engage in any kind of discourse other than talking about how kawaii desu Rihanna Spears or whatever. You know it's true.
So the language, the image, the color palette, all these three things are all associated with the violent far left.
Also, there are many resist banners of different types and colors so it doesn't matter what colors I used, you most likely would have pulled this same stunt. Here are examples of what showed up when I clicked on your Google search link:
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/RESIST_digital_1200x1200_8.png
http://i3.cpcache.com/product_zoom/2044095010/resist_womens_light_tshirt.jpg?color=LightPink&c=false
https://resistmedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/RESIST-Logo-Large.png
https://secure3.convio.net/gpeace/images/content/pagebuilder/Banner_870x215.jpeg
https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/120724/screenshots/3261034/resist-flag.jpg
http://murverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/developers-will-resist.gif
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/691718142842818560/M4uF-40W.jpgAre all of those only in black and red? There was actually only 4 results on the first page of black and red resist banners, and most of the fists are of the left hand and not the right. The fist in mine is a right hand fist, not left.
The language, the color choice and symbology are INDIVIDUALLY suggestive of antifa and far-left. Just because a resist banner isn't in red doesn't mean it has some alternative meaning. There are clear trends in the elements pointed out associated with the far left. Practically every single example you just posted is anti-Trump rhetoric. Example of greenpeace "Resist": https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/greenpeace-resist-banner-protest-trump.html. Are you gonna claim that the greenpeace "Resist" is something other than it's not?
All of those things you just posted only prove the point: you aren't here for dialogue. You can't claim you want civil dialogue while your signature blatantly signals that you want nothing to do with dialogue. So you are a hypocrite, and I assure you that every single conservative here agrees with me and recongizes your banner for what it is. Most liberals here probably understand your banner too, but won't admit it because tribalism.
Your motion for more civility has failed, because you won't own up to your own incivility and bullshit.
Questions for liberals – is this bald faced bias acceptable to you?
My new signature, to me, is to promote a resistance to the staus quo and that to truly move on we must find some form of common ground and use it to start building better dialogue.
The image itself, the word, even the color choice are both associated with Antifa and Communism.
Look up "resist" on google images. These images are similar, and they are all associated with far-left, often violent rhetoric.
So the language, the image, the color palette, all these three things are all associated with the violent far left.
Look, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that all of these choices may have been unintentional and/or subconscious. But if you're going to continue insisting that simply pointing out these obvious associations is me "just making a huge assumption" about you, and not simply pointing out clear associations; if you're going to continue trying to gaslight me into thinking like I'm trying to pull some armchair psychoanalyst crap here;
Then I'm going to have to tell you to fuck right off with your intellectually dishonest uncivil horseshit.
But of course, I don't want to do that, I DO want things to be more civil around here.
We can start here. Whether intentional or not, your banner conveys far left extremism that is not AT ALL conducive to civil dialogue between people of opposing views.
No sure if you've noticed. But, the leftists on this board don't typically start their posts with insults or use insults toward their political opponents.
Is this some sort of sick joke? Leftists on this board dish out the insults every bit as much as Frederick does, including you in this very thread. Don't be a hypocrite.
The two choices in your poll are obviously loaded responses. It is therefore a meaningless poll and doesn't do anything to move forward what you, ostensibly, claim you want to move forward.
Similarly, your communist red "resist" banner betrays your true intentions. You aren't here to have a debate; having a debate means the possibility of two sides. When you aren't treating your opposition as equals in order to "debate", but rather as an enemy that must be "resisted", shall we say, by any means necessary, you've already ceded the debate stage and have moved on to other options. And do not even bother to say that I'm putting words in your mouth; we both know what the symbology has always entailed.
I'm just going to stop by saying "be the change you want to see". You call for civility, but anyone with a brain knows that it is beyond easy to be "uncivil" and intellectually dishonest without directly insulting others.
Normal users can't see who downvoted who, so mods abusing by exposing.
Yeah somewhat agreed. I don't need to see his downvotes to know how butthurt Drwas is. He exposed his own self as "petulant child throwing tantrum" who also apparently can't form an original thought and can only copy and paste. I'd give the poor guy a break.
I didn't say no one should talk about it, I said we should attempt to be civil for at least 24 hours.
You said: "Therefore, I will not be participating in any of the discussions on the shooting."
I'm not going to further explain anything to someone who clearly has no intention on understanding anything I say.
I'm simply showing you that you pretended to take the high road by saying you won't discuss it in the previous thread, but then just going ahead and discussing it in this thread, in a backhanded manner to boot. What you said wasn't that complicated, so I'm pretty sure I understood what you said.
Yeah, and the left label ALL conservatives as racists, Nazis and everything else they can think of.
I consider myself part of "the left" and you don't see me "labeling ALL conservatives as racists, Nazis", and so forth and I never have. There are people who may identify as conservatives and racist and/or Nazis, but certainly not all of them. I do find it rather ironic, however, that you have an issue when people on "the left" doing this (and rightfully so, as stereotyping is indeed a problem), yet you constantly label all liberals and people on the left as doing, being, or saying certain things.
I can see what you're saying, but the racism and bigotry of the left is mainstream and institutional. How am I supposed to interpret that?
Not everything that is pro-black/brown is anti-white.
It is when in the name of "diversity" they exclude whites, like we have here. Just like everything else, BLM and it's offshoots are hijacking the pride flag for themselves.
Obviously, if they exclude whites, that is not true diversity and I too denounce this.
Did someone hijack your acct dude? You're sounding way too reasonable today :cheers:
Things get heated in this forum, and there as been much name-calling. Today's shooting at the Republican baseball practice should remind us all that we are all Americans first. As Speaker Ryan said, "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us." I encourage every poster and lurker in this forum to donate to the Congressional Baseball Charity in celebration of our unity.
I am with you on this. Thanks for posting.
For the user who started this thread, hopefully you can see by now that it just isn't possible. A Congressman was nearly assassinated and is still in critical condition and it did nothing to change this forum. There was a call for 24 hours of civility on that issue, yet threads were still made trying to politicize the situation. If we can't even do 24 hours of civility then there is no civility in this forum. It's sad but it's the truth at this point. I wholly disagree with every single thing Steve Scalise stands for, yet I would never support violence against him and I refuse to engage in partisan bickering over his attempted assassination. That is disgusting behavior and beneath the acceptable level of civility in my opinion.
Dude, why don't you just say what you really want to say. You hate Frederick. It's his fault for all the incivility here. He made a naughty post correctly pointing out the link between the hate-environment the left media has created and people feeling they have no choice but to resort to violence against conservatives. Despite everyone, deep down, knowing it to be true. It hurts your fee-fees that he doesn't make his point in a PC manner.
In the other thread you said:
Also it wasn't a Republican event, it was practice for an event that brings Republicans and Democrats together.
The shooter asked targets if they were Republican or Democrat first, and only shot Republicans.
Therefore, I will not be participating in any of the discussions on the shooting. It's pointless bickering if you're only going to call people names and not even defend why you have the position you have.
Yet here you are, discussing it. "A Congressman was nearly assassinated and is still in critical condition." Do you see how it comes off as hypocritical and facetious?
One of the people that lied about me finally "apologized". That apology was full of excuses and insults. This is the mentality of liberals.
They refuse to condemn the vile actions of their own, but are more than willing to flame those that talk about it. This tells me that they are happy with these vile acts.
i'm happy with YOUR vile acts…..YOU are the pussy that was insulted for a lie that i posted about you..YES i admit that i told a lie about you lol
and what does politics have to do with me lying??? full of excuses and insults??? you are so full of shit that if i was to meet you face to face..i would whoop your ass or kill your bitch ass! YOU are acting like a child...not me! i apologized plenty of times for lying yet you are holding onto a grudge like a spoiled little bitch! you post RACIST shit about my people but yet "suspend" my account because i hit you with TRUTH!!!! do me a favour you assclown...if you hate me that much then PERMABAN me you dick! it's republicans like you who can't stand that a college educated "nigga" like me hit you with the truth!!! you know what....NO I'M NOT SORRY FOR YOU CALLING ME A FAGGOT NIGGER!!!! YOU DID IT and you deserve to be banned!!!! you can suspend me for 1,2,3,4,5 hell 20 days lol...i can't download torrents but i can still voice my opinion on your fourms you asshole!!! the more racist shit you type on these fourms i will hit back! i guess because that i'm a nigger iyo that i'm vile....but what about a cracker like you....you are the worse of the worse! and PERMABAN ME!!! i don't give a fuck...extend my suspension...i don't give a fuck! hell, disable my account...i don't give a fuck...but if i'm able to still post on these fourms then i will not be silenced while you rant and insult my people and my heritage!!! you asshole have met your match!!! and i am now your worse nightmare!!!! LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!!! oh and i'm enjoying my "vacation" lol! you just proved me right that the longer you keep me on "suspension/vacation" that you is letting me get to you and guess what...i'm enjoying it!!!! so...keep using politics to insult me while i hit you with the truth every time you spew out your racist insults toward my people! your "suspension" kept me from uploading and downloading but i can still post on the forums and bitchslap your cracker ass everytime you insult my people,my party,and blm! is your cracker ass a part of WLM,PLM, THE NAZI PARTY,or any pro-white movement? i call you a cracker just like you call my people niggers everytime you post your stupid racist rants on this forum! didn't the forums state that "we have the RIGHT to post what we want" no matter how INSULTING it might be and "some people might be "OFFENDED" by some of the posts on the forums....i guess YOU did not see that and decided to suspend a man for giving his opinion! the way you carry yourself..i bet you are a fat,slimy,little dick,child molester,cracker who's obsessed with pissing people off but hates to get pissed off himself and i feel sorry for your mother who had to carry your nasty ass for the 49 years you lived on this earth and if she's dead...good for her! and i bet your father is pissed that he spilled his seed in her coochie to have your nasty slimy bitch ass and if he's dead...good for him! :cheers: SEE...don't like it when you are being insulted and ridiculed. >:D ;D :fight: :bithfight: :balls2: :afraid: :alarm: :xpl: oooh...i'm crying that i'm suspended...lmfao!!! can't wait for the response...lol and if i don't get one...cool!
Flaming, threats of violence, etc, etc, etc
This post is AMAZING. Quoted for posterity.
Would it satisfy you guys if they added a white stripe?
IMO, no. What about "LGBTQ" signals anything about race or ethnicity? It has nothing to do with skin color….
