I think sutieday was referring to mhorndisk's other vegan thread which was moved to rants and raves. In that post, mhorndisk actually mentions that he has given trump a pass on his meat-loving.
And?
As I mentioned, no U.S. president has ever been vegan. You can hardly find a single person you agree with on everything completely, much less a president. In Sutieday's own words, that one can't "support veganism whilst also supporting #45" is absurd.
And this is why you don't want
conservative christiansreligious fundamentalists dictating laws, this is why the law should be based on secular and humanist principles. El Salvador has a problem.
Absolutely.
Laura Loomer is a journalist, not a rando (ib4 "rightwing media lel"). You don't always hear these stories in the mainstream media or even local news when they happen.
You have a right to be skeptical but she also posted other images from the night, including the cop and the kid who was arrested.
Personally, I don't post news unless I am fairly confident the story is true.
I've attacked his posts and his argument (Supporting veganism whilst also supporting #45).
As far as I know, there has been no U.S. president that has EVER been vegan/vegetarian. And yet I'm sure tons of vegetarians vote and support various presidents. This is one of your weakest arguments yet, and that's saying something:
Mhorndisk: "I'm vegetarian and think people shouldn't eat meat"
Sutieday: "You support Trump, therefore ARUGMENT INVALID!"
Really? That's the hill you want to die on here? This topic has been made so pointlessly tribalistic by you and others here, totally without any valid reason.
And yes, that is sick. The extreme tribalism you so casually demonstrate is a sickness that has gripped the U.S. and the world at large of late.
Source: https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/883438847421538306
Do you guys want to stop denying there's a problem yet?
All over social media, you will see liberals defending "punch a Nazi". When you ask them to clarify, they tell you a Nazi is anyone you disagree with.
And all over the Internet – from the Dark Web to carefully guarded email lists -- there are invites to gatherings where they discuss assaulting minorities, and in some corners, drive around in pick-up trucks with white robes. Or sometimes, use torches to menace workers taking down shameful Confederate monuments:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/14/torch-wielding-group-protests-confederate-statue-r/
You think either side has a monopoly on this behavior?
I'll have you note that the protest you linked to in the washingtontimes contained no political violence. I don't agree with Richard Spencer, but I'm not going to slander him and accuse him of violence, when nothing he has ever done has been violent.
If conservatives attacked liberals/minorities/gays or whatever to any large degree, you'd see tons of video evidence. No, the amount of video documentation on left wing violence far outweights vice versa. To say that "no side has a monopoly on this behavior" is pure unadulterated ignorance.
This base ignorance is especially vile when considering that Hamburg is literally on fire, every car on some streets are literally on fire. All thanks to extreme left-wing antifa.
You guys need to call out left-wing violence more, and stop pretending there's a middle ground here or deflecting with the far smaller amount of conservative political violence. It is your image being tarnished right in front of the eyes of future generations.
Re-read the threads.
I'm not talking about the other threads, I'm talking about this thread.
While it may reduce your carbon footprint, Veganism is not a political issue and not conducive to debate.
Do you even realize you just claimed that an issue affecting carbon footprint/climate change is not political? Even without that connection, the claim that veganism isn't a political topic clearly doesn't pass the smell test:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK396510/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_and_animal_rights
https://www.quora.com/Is-veganism-a-political-choice
I believe mhorndisk is completely sincere in his beliefs, and I respect him for that, but he often uses this board as a soapbox, with not intention of listening to others.
Mhorndisk is unique among users here in that regard, is he?
You guys are sick. You see a post by a particular user and can do nothing but attack him for it. Want to talk about his other posts, which I agree some are crossing the civility line? Sure. But there was literally nothing offensive in this post whatsoever.
By the way, I agree with you mhorndisk on this topic. We should all strive to eat less meat, because it is just the right thing to do. A diet without meat has a much smaller carbon foot print (which is clearly a connection to political issues btw), is healthier, and reduces the suffering of animals.
It's hilarious that people claim to be liberal in here, but attack mhorndisk on a topic where he is liberal and politely professes a liberal perspective.
This should've been a thread used to find common ground. Instead, you guys just attack him because of Tribalism. Sad!
Angela Merkel has voted against same-sex marriage in Germany because she believes that "Marriage is between a man and woman".
Despite her opposition, the Bundestag voted to legalise equal marriage by 393 votes to 226, and the Chancellor said she hoped the move would improve social cohension.
"For me, marriage in German law is marriage between a man and a woman and that is why I did not vote in favour of this bill today," she told reporters moments after the historic vote.
Quoted without comment, pulling a DrWas.
More political violence by the left, this is a huge problem. For the people who remain liberal here, YOU are the people who need to speak up about this, not conservatives. Your narratives are being dominated by people who are explicitly violent and bigoted in the worst ways possible. Save your own selves, or face 4 more years of Trump.
Liberals will use any apologetics to justify CNN's vile actions.
Doxxing is never a good thing, even when a liberal does it.
I guess it's only good when the president wants to do it to the entire American electorate.
You can't dox "the entire American electorate". I cannot believe you are even going to try to defend CNN here.
For all the talk about keeping Politics and Debate on topic and cleaning up, were you guys seriously going to ignore the biggest current political news story?
For all your criticisms of mhorndisk recently, at least he hasn't completely pulled the blinders over his eyes.
Please come the fuck on…. Just unbelievable to defend CNN here. This is bar none the most egregious journalistic ethics violation of the entire Trump era to date, and that's saying something.
We should all be more careful about how we consume news. We cannot believe everything that comes across our cable TVs or Social media. But labelling one outlet as fake and another as true is a dangerous thing and inhibits critical thinking
Absolutely, in 100% agreement. You should never trust any news that does not present the evidence. "A source familiar with Trump's behavior says…" is an actual phrase used by CNN (which you can google).
That is the importance of documented video evidence in this story.
According to Trump no politician has ever been treated worse or more unfairly.
I beg to differ…...
Fair enough lol. But setting the bar as low as assassination doesn't exactly put your side in a good light.
dindu nuffin.
Was this really necessary, raphjd? I hope you're not suggesting every black person speaks this way because I do not and I don't know anyone who does. Please reconsider these kinds of actions in your future responses. I'm all for free speech, you know this, but that was clearly in poor taste.
Just to be clear, are you saying the phrase "dindu nuffin" is inherently racist?
Did Warmbier beat someone up and show himself as a violent thug before stealing that flag and then attempting to assault a cop like Michael brown?
you guys still acting like the only difference between these two guys and their situations was skin color? ::)
They're still acting like this, because SJWs are by far the most racist group of people in American society today – both against white people for being unable to empathize and blacks/minorities for the soft racism of low expectations.
This thread being a clear and blatant example of that ugly racism.
Disgusting.
Warmbier was white, Brown was black.
To white people, Otto Warmbier became a symbol of those who suffer under the weight of evil, despotic, dictatorial regimes, as well as an emblem of destroyed innocence that should have never suffered such pain in a situation which was ultimately not his fault.
To white people, Michael Brown became a symbol of society out of control, of a parisitic class of criminally-minded individuals with no respect for authority and who deserve all the misery of the world as punishment for situations usually of their own fault.
OBVIOUSLY, these are not all the differences as already pointed out multiple times. Putting effort into making a post with cutesy graphics doesn't change your faulty assumptions.
Here's the most damning quotes from little bit that has been leaked so far:
_PV JOURNALIST: But honestly, you think the whole Russia shit is just bullshit?
BONIFIELD: Could be bullshit. I mean, it’s mostly bullshit, right now. Like we don’t have any big giant proof. But then they say, “Well, there’s still an investigation going on.” Yeah, I don’t know, if you were finding something, we would know about it._
Pucci, the producer literally admits that CNN profits off of lying to the American public.
How un-woke do you have to be to think this is even a little bit acceptable? How tribalistic do you have to be to defend CNN here and downplay this? You do not get to ignore this just because you don't like the people involved.
Major news publications are beginning to pick up this story (aside from Fox) so it's obvious this isn't just going to blow over.
Again, another obscure democrat–a NJ blogger. From the same article " Several New Jersey Democrats criticized Devine’s comments and said they did not endorse violence. "
Can we limit our discussions to comments made by our members or public figures?
Stop pretending like it's some remote fringe who celebrate his shooting.
Here's prime-time MSNBC host Joy Reid implying that Scalise deserved to be shot: http://www.dailywire.com/news/17649/msnbc-host-suggests-rep-steve-scalise-deserved-be-joseph-curl
Are you going to downplay her relevance, too? A prime time host on one of the big-three cable news?
There are tons of examples of SJWs celebrating, laughing and wishing Scalise died all over the place if you care to open your eyes – they are not fringe.
Look at your tribe, and acknowledge there's a huge violence problem with it, this case being yet another example of endless examples.
Unless I missed something, not a single conservative said the horrible shit that liberals said about the case.
That's because Warmbier is white. When it's a black person killed, then the favored conservative talking point magically becomes: "That's what you get for not following THE LAW."
Oh ffs, stop race baiting.
A better comparison would be harambe. A black male whose life probably wasn't even in danger, had officials take EVERY pre-caution possible to ensure that he survived. Is that black privilege? Because you KNOW that if it were a white male, black twitter would be UP IN ARMS about white privilege.
Oh wait:
When you have a gun which could easily kill an officer, follow orders or expect to get shot. Plenty of white men get killed in this manner, by the way.
In an ENTIRELY unrelated case, you have ZERO empathy for a young kid whose life was taken away by a totalitarian regime. Instead, you turn it into about how much you can race bait as possible.
Fucking horribly racist and disgusting post. You make me sick. Fuck off with your racist bullshit.
I haven't fully researched the health care issue, so the following questions are not rhetorical, for Pucci etc.
If the ACA was so great, why did insurance premiums keep going up year over year under Obama?
Not only that, but the U.S. spends way more on health care than any other country.
Under Obama, that didn't change. Isn't reform necessary?