@raphjd:

@pppucci:

@raphjd:

It was a blatant lie by CNN to fit their narrative.

She DID NOT call for calm and peace.  She called for blacks to burn down the suburbs.

CNN knew this because they later posted their own "full" copy of the event.

You assign a motive to the mistake because it fits your narrative.  It may have been maliciously edited, or it may have been carelessly edited for time.

My point is if a YouTube user "BlacksforPeace" posted the edited video, how would know it had been edited? The media brings such things to light.  I don't use YouTube much, but are confident that a deceptively edited video will be exposed by another YouTube user and posted in the comments so you can easily find it?

Do you seriously believe that CNN edited out "take that shit to the suburbs and burn their shit down" by accident?     Or do you think they edited it out so they could claim she was calling for peace?

YouTube is extremely good at self cleaning/correcting.

To be fair, it's probably easy to thoroughly invert the facts and accept the New Truth when you are a Cultist and a True Believer.

@pppucci:

Did it ever occur to you that there is no "Team Liberal" and that you are being petty.  Apparently everyone here except you knows that civility is about the language we use to treat each other, using words with respect and avoiding insults that have nothing to do with the matter being discussed.  I would argue that a downvote probably the polite and civil form of disagreement.  Stop playing the victim.

Pointing out your incivility and hypocrisy != playing the victim.  I could care less what any of you think of me.  I care about logic, truth and arguments.

It's pretty obvious to literally everyone that there is a "Team Liberal" whether they want to admit it or not.  It's especially apparent on topics that have nothing to do with pushing conservative politics.  Remember mhorndisks post on veganism?  This post had literally nothing to do with pushing conservative politics, yet all the benchwarmers on Team Liberal still gave him crap for it and perhaps you were all so excited to go up for bat that you all had magically the same opinion on the thread.

I'm simply here to remind you that the Tribalism by you and others is blatant and intense.  It's not well hidden as you think and it's not particularly clever.  It's more like sad and pathetic.  The downvote culture is real.

To be fair, perhaps you don't even realize yourself what you're doing. Is that the case?

TLDR: Your Tribalism is showing.

As I said, at best you have both sides looking bad as they were both willingly participating in the fight.  This isn't the event you're looking for in order to support your narrative of conservative violence.

@flozen:

This thread was wrong-headed from the get-go.

If you have a beef with someone and you perceive it as a likely violation of the Forum's terms, then contact the Administrator directly.  Name-highlighting on thread titles is bush league.

As far as your concern about thumbs down – truly bigger than the G20 for you -- it's one of a dozen emojis available to evaluate each post, and forum members appear to have the right to never use them, or to use them as often as they please.

Meanwhile, you seem quite unconcerned by the green bar/red bar Reputation Power manipulation going on, as it's the conservatives playing with that statistic to their advantage.  The total posts from progressives on that topic?  Probably fewer than your own here, in this single-thread pity party.

You obviously needed some attention, and now you've had it, congratulations, perhaps someone will bake you a cake.

Ahhh more white knighting.  You guys never tire of being so predictable.  You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about internet points.  To be fair, you're not the only one.  Let me tell you, if I did care, I'd be on reddit farming up the karma, not on a relatively obscure political forum.  lol internet points.

I'm simply pointing out the incivility of a certain user and group, and proving the lie of "civility" that you pretended to desire.  Sutieday just lied and said that "Rapjhd doxxed someone."  He proved that he goes through peoples profiles and downvotes all their posts.  Is that "civil" or…?  To be fair, he's not the only one, Drwas did the same thing.

The fact that I also get to call out again the hypocrisy and Tribalism of Team Liberal here is simply icing on the cake that "perhaps someone will bake" for me.

@pppucci:

OMG! A 100 pound woman pushes a burly man.  That gives him the right to sucker-punch her is the face.  Now explain away the guy in the yellow jacket kicking the guy on the ground.

Antifa are known for carrying concealed blades and other concealed weaponry.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/05/in-portland-images-of-knives-brass-knuckles-bricks-show-viciousness-of-protests/

So yes, he had every right to punch her because she engaged.  And no, it wasn't a "sucker punch" by any definition of the word.

As for the yellow jacket guy, we must be watching completely different gifs, because I see no person on the ground.  And even if there was, both sides are clearly engaging.  This isn't the event you want to cite to prove your "conservative violence" theory.  At best for you, it comes out looking the same for both sides.

"Moldylocks" literally posted that she was going to "scalp 100 nazis" before the event.  She is not innocent.  At a place where Antifa were largely the aggressors who attacked conservatives….  You can even see moldylocks going forward towards the guy to push him with both hands.  I'm sorry but if you willingly engage in a fight and attack someone, even if you are a small woman trying to attack a tall guy, you have no right to complain if you get yours.

But all firsthand reports and videos show that Antifa were the aggressors at this event.  That is intellectual dishonesty beyond normal even for you.  You have blinders that allows you to only see whatever you want to see, even if it's right in front of your eyes.

In case you missed it: EVEN THE VIDEO YOU JUST POSTED SHOWS SHE IS NOT INNOCENT.

@pppucci:

Strangeloop, please lock this thread. This bickering is useless.

Your team needs to own up to the incivility and damage you're doing to these forums.

Sutieday goes through peoples profiles and downvotes all their posts.

He also just slandered Raphjd and accused him of doxxing and you don't even bat an eye.

And then you/Aadam both come in here and white knight the shit out of him simply because he is on your team.  You don't have the moral high ground here.

@pppucci:

Of course, there were no incidents of Trump supporters harassing reporters–prompting the Secret Service to escort one female reported to her car following a rally.

I have never once stated there were no violence by Trump supporters.  I have always argued only about the extent of violence, which is very one-sided.  I think to suggest otherwise betrays a terrible ignorance, perhaps a willful ignorance.

Here are a few headlines from the election cycle.  I made sure these stories were real and verified:

• Ugly, bloody scenes in San Jose as protesters attack Trump supporters outside rally

• Gay Trump Supporter Beaten Unconscious on Texas Street After He Pulls Out Trump Lighter

• Trump Supporter Was Dragged Out From Car, Beaten, Car stolen, & Dragged Down the Road in Chicago

• Anti-Bullying Activist Charged with Assaulting 74-year-old Trump Supporter During Protest

• Woman Assaulted for Handing Out Campaign Literature Supporting Republican Presidential Candidate Donald Trump

• While Leaving a San Jose Trump Rally an Angry Mob Attacked Gay Latino Trump Supporter & Log Cabin Republican

• Student Punches Classmate Over Donald Trump Sign at Local High School

• Man in Trump Hat Is Beaten and Chased by Protesters Before Finding Safety With the Police

Each of these events could rightfully deserve its own thread on these forums, and I'll be happy to source any of these stories.  There are literally hundreds of headlines nationwide on violent incidents against Trump supporters.  I don't know how to get through to you that the numbers and extent are not the same.  There was an incredible amount of violence this election cycle and mostly against conservatives, more than any time in at least decades.

@sutieday:

The irony is that strangeloop has no idea whether I have upvoted or posted any other voting option, he only see the number of voted given by me, nothing specific.

I have special privileges to see when you downvote.

@sutieday:

The irony is that strangeloop has no idea whether I have upvoted or posted any other voting option, he only see the number of voted given by me, nothing specific.

It's simple to tell.  Because you are the only person downvoting en masse, I can easily correlate a downvote on my post with a downvote in my total.  Not rocket science.