@guzzofan said in Does anyone know what happened to Stag Collective site?:

@soulcalibour It merged into Next Door Studios

Sho 'nuf

https://www.gaydemon.com/blogs/stag_collective_moves_to_next_door_studios.html

@di3di3di3 said in Vuze and Seeding (not seeding that is):

i have same issue with qbittorrent 4.2.5 i cant seed anything even super seeding mode, or force resume. anyone can help me? i am noob when it comes to settings etc.

Read the docs:

• Super-Seeding makes sure you "seed" different parts of the file(s) before re-sending parts you have already sent to others.
  Here's the scenario that makes this a good thing. You seed your file, and it is broken into 5 parts. Leecher A comes along and asks for part #1, then B asks for part #1 too, so you start re-sending part #1 to B.
  Grow this to thousands of parts and dozens of leechers, and you are re-sending the same parts over and over and no one ever gets the whole thing!
  Super-Seeding means that when you've sent part #1 to A, you send part #2 to B and so on... this is supposed to be a TORRENT, after all: once you've sent #1 to A, B can get it from them!
• Forced seeding just overrides your internal queueing... you still send a scrape.

The action you need to take to force your torrent to seed is to PAUSE IT (aka STOP SEEDING IT), wait for any existing traffic to END, then re-start the seeding.

This causes your client to RE-ANNOUNCE itself (different from a scrape)

As I understand it, the not-supporting-scrape issue comes down to some ability to cheat the rationator system using scrapes... (clearly, I do NOT know the details there!)... But IMHO, having to work around that is a SMALL PRICE to pay for all this free, quality porn!

@di3di3di3 said in Goodbye, SlamRush:

i digress. what is issue with these providers /censors?? they deemed themselves worthy to choose what is allowed and what isn't?? is bb sex without testing/prep any safer than what this site had?? why are such bb sites allowed to run and have been allowed to run?? majoral stupidity.

adults can choose what to do with their bodies and as a non drug user myself, i believe in free will and choice.

ps : in countries where public health systems are in place to offer free healthcare, i think it gets more complicated, but the site was run in USA so it doesnt affect any taxpayer if a adult chooses to ''get high'' and ''fuck''

Someone who is high is incapable (at least in US case law) of giving consent.

As @flozen clearly & correctly pointed out, while we mostly know that in the real world kids are getting high, getting fucked (partly why we call it "getting fucked up", no?) -- and sometimes being raped (used in ways they object to and didn't / couldn't consent to)

And let's face it, often the rapists are equally as high...

But, by most accounts, this site tried to INFER that, without actually DOING that...

So, I agree with the majority that the site was "morally offensive" to me... and I'm not "sexually" sorry that it's gone.

HOWEVER - I also do not believe that a BANK should be the one making those decisions. So I am "intellectually" (in the sense of wanting to keep a free and open society) sorry that it left us this way - and I would like to see steps taken to curtail the ability of banks to do this to other businesses.

@barbusex75 said in Quality of Files low:

@bi4smooth Hi Thanks. I use Format Factory, free!

I don't need to see each hair but I dont' like pixelized dicks that look like a chess game!

A fair point - that's why I generally download the collectibles in 4k or 1080p and recode them myself to 720p with an H265 codec... the files are small-ish and the images are clear - even on my 8k TV screen!

@eobox91103 said in Georgia Officials Tampered With and Deleted Hours of Ballot Box Video Before It Was Released to Investigators:

@raphjd said in Georgia Officials Tampered With and Deleted Hours of Ballot Box Video Before It Was Released to Investigators:

extreme TDS

Is this the Tardis from Dr. Who?

No, he thinks I don't see Donald Trump for what he supposedly is: the rightful leader of the new world order, a perfect, infallible, soul sent by God himself to show us the way to righteousness and glory

In the Trump world, we're all FREE!

Free to do what He wants and to believe only what He wants us to believe!

Instead, I ridicule his self-righteousness & obvious flaws, identify him as the cult-leader that he is, and excoriate his authoritarian / fascist tendencies as being wholly un-American. Oh, and sometimes I make fun of his fat ass, orange hair, and fake tan... but that last part is just to piss off the Trumpite Believers... They're fun to watch when they're poked that way!

Like many Americans, Trump has already planned for his funeral... a State funeral at that!

• The bottom part of the casket will be pure, solid gold (for about 1/4" - the rest will be lead - so that the tare weight of the thing will mask the dead-weight of the humongous carcass that will lie within...)
• The lid will be orange, naturally - Trump's people will claim that it is "Orange Gold" - even though there is no such thing. After burial, Democrats will defile the grave and determine that the lid is made of plastic, but it'll be too late (They're always too late) and Trumpites won't care
• The casket will be interred into a private mausoleum - the largest in the history of the world, according to the brochures - in Mid-Town Manhattan, where Police will have to patrol for decades as Trump supporters gather on the East side to lay flowers; and Trump detractors gather on the West side to urinate.
  Eventually, the city installs an additional sewer system to accommodate the half-million gallons a day of excess urine flow. LOL

@geobear40 said in The truth about liberal media:

@bi4smooth said in The truth about liberal media:

So where's the benefit to the scammers about masks?

FEAR and CONTROL

Only N95 or KN95 masks properly worn are effective masks and the rest are just for show.

N95, KN95, and KFN4 (a Korean design) are more effective at providing protection than cloth or "surgical" masks - but more effective does not mean the others are ineffective...

But hey, I'll take the win!

You've at least come around to agreeing that masks are effective!

OK, so you claim that mask-wearing is being used for "fear and control"... sounds like a legit possibility on the surface, but dig a little deeper, friend: fear and control are used to limit the actions of people - often by military and dictator/authoritatian leaders. It is used to "subdue" the masses, and enable ever more and more control over their movements and activities.

Is that what's going on here? Are we using COVID-19 to prevent people from protesting? Are we criminalizing not-wearing masks? (I know some wakko's actually would, but not the scientists)

ACTUALLY, if you had listened with your thinking-mind open, instead of your fear-mind, you would have realized that:

• The original COVID-19 response was: isolation
  No going out, all non-essential businesses closed, no gatherings...
  We called it "lock down"
  That was FEAR & CONTROL!
• Scientists didn't like that any more than anyone else!
• Scientists found a way to REDUCE the fear and control

Let's look at a simile:

• Aliens have conquered our military and a robot militiaman is hiding on street corners all around the world. The demand is: stay indoors. If you come out, you'll be shot!
• Scientists soon realize: all the robots are BLIND to the color RED, so they come up with a RED jumpsuit - the perfect shade that the robots cannot see. The aliens don't quite get it (this is a simile, after all), but if you're wearing the RED jumpsuit, they won't target you - but no guarantees! If you're near other people NOT wearing a RED jumpsuit, you might still get shot!
• Wearing our RED jumpsuits, we are free to live out our lives as-if the semi-blind robots weren't there at all! We just have to remember to wear the RED jumpsuits in public!
• Other scientists discover a bulletproof vest that's highly effective at blocking the robot's bullets! Some shots still get you in places not covered by the vest (e.g.: you could get "struck" in the arm or leg - and a few unlucky ones will get struck in the head and die - but most of the bullets will just bounce off, maybe leaving a bruise, maybe not even that!), but overall, the vests save millions from the robots' tyranny!

Now, we can focus on getting rid of the robots?

No! Some nincompoops insist that wearing the RED suits - or the bulletproof vests - are infringing on our freedoms! They march in the streets, sans jumpsuits or vests, DARING the robots to shoot them (which the do - by the thousands), but the idiots keep marching.

What's more, they alert the robots that they're missing a lot of us because of the red suits! So the robots "mutate" and can start to see some of the red jumpsuits... scientists start looking for other colors - and point out that specific shades of red are better then others, but in the meantime, the robots still miss most of the red jumpsuits, and the bullets still bounce off the vests.

And MOST of us go about our lives - except for the medical professions, who have to keep treating the morons who refuse to believe the robots are real, or that the color red will protect them, or that the bulletproof vests actually work... and they keep filling up our hospitals with casualties.

IN THIS SIMILE:

• The robots are the COVID-19 virus
• The red jumpsuits are masks (with some types [shades of red]) being more effective than others), but all rd jumpsuits [masks] work to some degree or another
• The bullet-proof vests are the vaccines (ok, not a perfect simile!)
• And the morons are... well, I'll leave that little mystery to the reader...

@barbusex75 said in Quality of Files low:

Hello from some weeks now I see videos files of about 20 mins being around 100/200 Mo, which makes them bad quality on a 22"' Desktop clips
I believe the posted file should be at better quality

HD file 1920x1008 : minimum of 5000 ko/s mp4, about 35 Mo/min
Half HD 1080x 720 minimum 3500 ko/sec mp4 (about 20 mo/min)
Sd (720x 576) 2400 ko/s mp4 ( about 15 mo/minutes)

Also there is no need to recode a mps video in H265, this double compression will degrade a lot a final quality.
Same applies if you join different mp4 and recompress them.

To check the quality of your file, you can use Mediainfo (windows free ware)

A Lot of content is posted in multiple file sizes -- everything from phone-size (360p) to 4K, and even some 8k content has been posted! In most cases, it depends on the source material.

As for re-coding, whether you're re-compressing depends on how you're re-coding. Some video "translation" software DECODES the source stream into "raw" output before "re-coding" the stream with the new codec.

To that end, I personally use HandBrake to recode content to make it smaller... I have TB of "collections" (most of which are shared here) that are re-coded to H265 at just 720p to save space. I don't need to see every hair stubble or every juicy zit to beat off! LOL But that's just me! And ain't that the beauty of this site (and porn in general)?

There's something for everyone!

Peace! and enjoy the free porn... it's a bargain, at twice the price!

@raphjd said in The truth about liberal media:

@bi4smooth

Don't blame those photos on the players, especially if you think they are brain dead idiots.

Blame the news reporters, whom you worship as long as they are liberal, for their part in the mask scams.

Wearing masks for protection (primarily for others) is not a scam...

But wait - let's posit for a moment that it WAS a scam for some reason? TO WHAT END?

When scammers get my credit card info, it's so that they can USE it and buy shit!

When scammers get me to download a trojan into my PC, it's so they can install RANSOMWARE and get me to pay-up!

When scammers get me to buy shit that's fake, at the "discount price" off of the real stuff, it's so that they can sell their shit!

So where's the benefit to the scammers about masks?

• Are all these health experts invested in mask companies?
• Are all these health experts directing us towards their masks?
• Are all these health experts just playing us for fools - because they have teenage minds and just think it'd be cool
• Are all these health experts just tired of treating sick people, so they're trying to kill off huge portions of the population?

Tell me, Mr Wizard - What's the win? What's the benefit to the people telling you to wear masks?

OH! That's right! It's to control your lives! As-if you don't wear eye-glasses, as-if you don't wear seat-belts, as-if you don't drive on roads (and not off-road) and stop at stop-signs and red-lights? As-if you don't pull-over when the cops (ultimate control figures) pull you over!

You go, you anarchist, you!

Oh, and reporters and athletes being stupid together doesn't require either one to be more (or less) stupid than the other... they're both being hypocritical. That said, they ARE outside, and they ARE tested - many times - before being allowed on the field... so, perhaps, the hypocritical part is where they keep their distance for the on-camera interview... THAT was, perhaps, just for show!

@raphjd said in Georgia Officials Tampered With and Deleted Hours of Ballot Box Video Before It Was Released to Investigators:

@bi4smooth

Your extreme TDS colors everything you believe.

The ones hyper-focused on Trumpty Dumpty are the ones focused on the PAST - and what could have been! Making up stories to justify a significant, but valid LOSS!

But wait, you can't lose - unless you were cheated!

Yeah! That's the ticket!

@flozen said in How long does your pre-sex hygiene ritual take?:

...what ritual?

ROFL - aren't you supposed to clean up AFTER sex?

@geobear40 said in Georgia Officials Tampered With and Deleted Hours of Ballot Box Video Before It Was Released to Investigators:

I think you are all missing the point.

This is not evidence that Trump should be President but that there are to many ways to cheat if someone wanted to. Laws are needed to to minimize the ability to cheat.

2020 showed us that a few fraudulent votes cast in key districts is a few key states could change the out come of an election.

So, you look at one of the GREAT STRENGTHS of our voting system (that each State, nay each County in each State) has its own - unique - election system, such that, even IF, for example Dominion voting machines with a specific code set were compromised, it would only affect a tiny fraction of the overall vote!

The Russians and Chinese CAN'T hack our elections (though they certainly can influence them with misinformation campaigns!) because there is no one way (nor even a single hundred ways) to do so! They would have to simultaneously, and secretly, break into HUNDREDS - nay, thousands - of systems to be successful! Systems that are (from a computer science perspective) not at all similar!

Nah - you go ahead.... CENTRALIZE the voting systems - make them all "perfect"! That way, one good hack CAN change millions of votes!

The professionals - the supervisors of elections - FROM BOTH PARTIES! - agree overwhelmingly: 2020 was one of the "cleanest" elections in our history!

Only thing is: "Trumpty Dumpty the loser" had a great fall... and we all know that COULDN'T have happened, because he was supposed to have had it RIGGED - in his FAVOR!

So, if Trumpty Dumpty didn't win, the only plausible explanation is that someone out-cheated him!

Yeah! That's the ticket!

@geobear40 said in The truth about liberal media:

@bi4smooth said in The truth about liberal media:

@raphjd said in The truth about liberal media:

LOL - holding up US Football players as icons of intelligence?
Come on - we already know these guys have been brain damaged ALREADY by the time they even get into the league! The question (and the chance they take is HOW BADLY are their brains damaged by playing this game, not ARE they damaged!)
But that's a different rabbit-hole... (I used to officiate High School and semi-pro football... and no, I absolutely would not and have not allowed my sons to play tackle football!)
Just look at the behavior of arguably one of the BEST wide receivers in the game today: Antonio Brown
Poor guy has mush for brains thanks to his football career... but hey! He's rich! (Maybe he can hurry up and have some kids to leave it all to before he up and offs himself the way so many other former NFL players with these brain injuries do!)
Dark, I know... and sad... but alarmingly true!

Do you paint everyone with such a broad brush or just the people you don't like?

I'm sorry if you haven't been following the NFL and College Football "issues" that have been arising over TBI and CTE injuries... injuries that begin when the athletes are very young, but take years - even decades - to show signs, and can only be confirmed in diagnosis post-mortem.

The incidence of NFL player alumni suicides is more than 10x the rate of other professional sports!

Brain scientists believe (but have no way to prove) that the damage begins very early in a player's "career" - that is to say, in High School for most! - and that it's more a question of "how much brain damage is there" vs "is there any brain damage at all"...

@eobox91103 said in Lush cosmetics store kicks out disabled child over inability to wear a mask:

@bi4smooth said in Lush cosmetics store kicks out disabled child over inability to wear a mask:

2 of my kids work in "retail" - both as managers... finding good help is SOOOO hard!

These days it's quite difficult in retail and food service to find entry-level employees. In some places, the only requirement seems to be a heartbeat, or reasonable facsimile thereof. The unfortunate situation in Edmonton was likely the result of an uninformed and/or less than brilliant employee acting on his/her own. The nutjob websites reporting this story want to hint at some Grand Conspiracy to Oppress the Citizens, but that doesn't work. (Note that this story is only found on a handful of fringe websites, all citing each other as sources. While the "Edmonton event" may very well have occurred, it's not impossible that it's a fabrication.)

One thing missing from all of the crapsheet "reporting" is the child's age, vaccination status, and/or medical condition that led to the mask exemption. While these are personal matters that can be reserved from the "press," it wouldn't surprise me if Mommy Karen and the child weren't vaccinated. Even if the kid were vaccinated, one has to question to wisdom of bringing such child without a mask into a crowded shopping mall.

While I don't disagree with the premise (that it likely wasn't such a good idea bringing a child with medical problems into a crowded mall environment), that also "assumes facts not in evidence" - and I would ask - was it really so important that the child - the ill child - be in the store?

All we really know is that the child had an exemption that the store would not honor. All the other details people are adding are coming from your own imaginations!

Also:

Historians have corrected an oft-misguided belief that former President George Washington had wooden false teeth.

See the full story here:
https://www.history.com/news/did-george-washington-have-wooden-teeth

BTW: Are there any other "historical" errors or omissions we should look at?

In a related story:

Former Deputy FBI Director, Mark Felt, was identified as the confidential informant who had been known as "Deep Throat".

75 year-old Patricia Nixon Cox, daughter of former President Richard Nixon proclaimed "He couldn't have known that stuff - he lied! My dad was right all along! It was a witch hunt! I want him re-instated!"

When informed that her father had passed away in 1994, she declared "I don't care! He should be President again!"

Her nurse then administered a mild sedative and the once "First Daughter" was taken back to her room...

This just in:

An 84 year-old man in Western PA signed an affidavit that he intended to vote for Trump, but was confused and accidentally voted for Biden.

Upon hearing the news, President Biden asked for former-President Trump to return immediately to the White House so that he could concede the election to him (why not, Biden apparently likes to concede shit!) and immediately swear-in Trump as President again.

When Trump got on the plane, he received a phone call from Chief Justice John Roberts, who explained that, should Biden leave office - once he was sworn in - for any reason, Kamala Harris would immediately become President... and if she were to quit too, Speaker Pelosi would immediately become President (but would have to resign from the House first - she can't be both!). Indeed, even if 30 people declined to become President, Trump STILL could not become President again until Jan, 2025 (assuming he won the Nov, 2024 election and subsequent Jan, 2025 Electoral College vote - which Kamala Harris will have to validate!).

Mr. Trump then asked for Melania to explain it to him, but she was too busy directing the removal of the luggage from the plane. He tried to call Rudy to explain it to him, but he was in court (The People's Court TV show - the only "court" in the country where he's still allowed to practice law!)

Eventually Trump got off the plane and went back to the golf course, where he falsified his score card and won by a single stroke - as usual!

@kekkaishi said in Lush cosmetics store kicks out disabled child over inability to wear a mask:

@bi4smooth I didn't say that the whole company is responsible. The responsibility falls on the individual only. What you are describing in your example, the employee who didn't want to go get the milk didn't know about the allergy (unless he was told in advanced). I'm 100% sure had the employee knew about the allergy, he would act accordingly

In the Lush consmetics case, even though the employees and the manager knew very well of the child's disability and mask exemption, they still refused. Is that intentional enough? I will say that due to the mask mandates, the employees must have believed that there are no exceptions to that rule obviously (perhaps indeed company policy?). IMHO, this was well beyond a mistake

I don't know where you're getting your information from - I didn't go past the article as-posted/linked, plus the follow-on link that claimed to have the "full story".

This story could have a lot of "what-ifs" and the store manager said the situation was "nuanced" (what s/he means by that is unknown, to be sure).

But that's my whole point: you're jumping to conclusions based on what information?

From the information shared so far, your "additional information" has all been inferred. You can choose to infer the worst, or the best - either way, the truth is usually somewhere in between.

I'll posit another story - which may explain why my daughter was so quick to fire the employee who was too lazy to go get the almond milk:

My oldest son is a type-1 diabetic (also called a "Brittle Diabetic") - he often orders coffees and teas unsweetened, or sweetened with Splenda. He usually asks to be allowed to sweeten his own beverage, because not-uncommonly, in spite of ordering the DIET beverage, he is served one with sugar... which can have a deadly effect if he's not aware of what happened. (He can generally TASTE the difference between the sugar, high-fructose-corn-syrup (as bad as sugar to him), and the artificial sweeteners... so he will often take the item back if it tastes initially like it has sugar in it.

So, based on your statement above, when my son orders a diet soda (and he's thin as a rail), he should have to provide his medical history to avoid some dumbass employee giving him a sugared drink because they don't think he NEEDS the diet one?

Or, just maybe, thinking outside the box here: when you order a diet, milk-free beverage, I don't know - just guessing here: the employees should (I think reasonably... maybe?) be expected to give you what you ordered [as opposed to what they THINK you should have ordered!]

IMHO, if the case was clear-cut, the company likely would have been "mea-culpa" and fired the employee. That that isn't what happened leads me to believe that there is more here that we don't know...

But I'm gonna leave it here... you are free to assume the worst (or the best) about Lush - truth be told, neither YOU nor I are likely to drive to the Lush store in Edmonton any time soon! So, the opinions that really matter will be the participants, perhaps some lawyers, and maybe even a jury... again, odds are you and I will not ever be one of those in this case...

@kekkaishi said in Lush cosmetics store kicks out disabled child over inability to wear a mask:

@bi4smooth
A mistake can be interpreted as not intentional
When I said "bad decision" I meant to imply intent; to say that the employees knew very well what they were doing and decided to do it anyway. It wasn't because a "lack of training", it was because they didn't care to listen or to consider the circumstances. If you are an inconsiderate individual, no amount of training will help you

I think you're reading an awful lot into that story... maybe some personal experience "seeding" your viewpoint?

Not saying you're wrong just that there doesn't seem to be a basis for your assumptions...

2 of my kids work in "retail" - both as managers... finding good help is SOOOO hard!

One daughter works in a store (I won't name it): they have food options. A customer asked for Almond milk (vs dairy). The employee didn't want to have to go back and get more almond milk (they were out up front), so he used dairy instead.

Turns out the customer had an allergy & went into an emergency situation right there in the store. (Paramedics were called & the customer recovered at the hospital).

The employee admitted to ignoring the customer's request & was fired on the spot...

But do you hold the whole company responsible, or the individual?

That was my point: the employee made the error (whether intentional or otherwise - we may never know)... but Lush probably does not have a store policy that backs their actions, so probably shouldn't be held liable - neither in legal courts, nor in the court of public opinion...

@rickchub said in DATING WHEN YOU ARE A CHUBBY:

hi

i am a black chubby lad and I have been single for a few years to be honest i have given up dating because i felt not desired for the right reason but more of a fetich for some blocks because of my weight or my skin. I just want someone to want me for me, just quirky self and shyness.
I am not a 10 and would never be one and I am honest with myself and I wonder if I will ever meet someone right or I will just finish my life alone and no one cares about me.
I know that I have to deal with a lot past trauma and therapy is here for that and it is a long road ahead but sometime I am just tired of doing that road alone and just want someone but no anyone.

What should I do ?

Babe, there is someone out there for you.. but as much as you want it to happen, you also have to be OPEN to let it happen!

I had a friend when I was in my 20's - Asian, short, and quite overweight... he was always complaining that no one wanted HIM FOR HIM, overlooking his extra weight...

Truth be told, there were PLENTY of guys into him, but they didn't match HIS physical ideals!

I'm not saying this is you - but for my friend, it wasn't until another friend of ours - who was into him, but who was turned away one too many times had a "come to Jesus" moment with him that he started to change... they dated a while, and broke up... but I believe both found happiness shortly thereafter...

I will say this as well... sometimes you have to LET THE UNIVERSE WIN!

I have told this story way too many times, but I attended a house party (non-sexual) about 10 years ago. I was divorced (from a woman), and newly back "into" the gay scene (after 15 years, it was unrecognizable!)

I was in my mid-40's, bald-ish, and about 20 lbs over my "ideal" weight (personal ideal)... so I wasn't attracting a lot of attention. There was this other guy I really liked at the party - Tom - and I arranged to get his number... so I texted him a couple of days after the party...

A day later, I got a text from another number asking me to dinner... I assumed it was Tom... I showed up at the correct time, at the correct place - and this GORGEOUS, 6'3", 23 y/o Nubian GOD sat down... I was CERTAIN he was in the wrong place... I was embarrassed for him! He clearly thought I was someone else! Right?

Cut to the chase, David and I fell quickly and madly in love... to this day, the most passionate and "complete" man I've ever known! We had issues, and ours was a FIERY relationship - but it was the MOST REAL, and most intense interpersonal relationship I'd ever had, and likely ever will have!

Sadly, while we were engaged to be married, David came down with a MRSA infection in his chest. The ER misdiagnosed it - twice - and he passed because the infection had grown too bad before it was finally diagnosed and treated. I won't go into the details, but his death was 5 years ago now, and I still talk to him, dream about him, masturbate to memories of him... you get the idea...

The point: I would NEVER have "gone for" David - he was outta my league! WAY! WAY outta my league! But when the Universe put us together, we didn't think a second thought about our age difference. Much less our racial difference! I "fought" seeing David again at first: what would my kids think, what was I thinking, being with such a younger man - and later, was I crazy getting feelings for him?

I let the Universe in - and I had the time of my life while David was in it!

Be open to other people - NOT "your type"... and get out there! The Universe will send someone your way, but NOT to your doorstep!

@kekkaishi said in Lush cosmetics store kicks out disabled child over inability to wear a mask:

@bi4smooth I would argue that it wasn't a mistake. It was a bad decision

OK - potato / potato (LOL)

Take the original quote - substitute your word choice, and it seems essentially the same to me:

People make mistakes - re-train the employee, apologize to the mother & child, and move on. Let it be a teaching moment, so to speak...

vs

People make bad decisions - re-train the employee, apologize to the mother & child, and move on. Let it be a teaching moment, so to speak...