@ballard1:
I don't think two rating systems is a good idea. The current one is broken. Too many people give bad ratings without even having seen the video or based on personal taste.
On the other hand: maybe it's possible that only people who actually have downloaded a video can rate? That would make a lot of sense. That would minimize the abuse of the rating system.
Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the "staff rating" wouldn't be visible and is only used to award/rate the uploaders download page.
I like the idea of only allowing people who've downloaded the torrent to rate it. I agree, of course that would make more sense.
@Uwe:
At the moment the only technical way we got as moderators to punish and avoid jump-on during initial upload seeding would be to reset the passkey. That will stop the seeding after one hour latest, but as well all other seeding and downloading. I feel that being a little disproportional. There is the possibility to give a system warning if a moderator PM request is ignored (that fits to our set of rules), but such action is rather symbolic.
Some people might not login in time to respond to the PM request but would be happy to comply if they did (e.g. on vacation, at work, illness, etc).
Personally I wouldn't, and will not, Â punish anyone for seeding.
@NeoStrada:
A torrent site must never, ever, penalize its members for seeding
I agree. Â Didn't check if I posted in that particular thread. I remember making some posts on this topic somewhere tho. Some slowliners who know how to manage their torrents get by just fine and are even Power Users, it's all about torrent management.
@geographer:
I agree with ballard1 on this topic: the current rating is either not used, or abused; either way it doesn't bring any good. But I like the idea of rating the torrent directly on the details page rather in the approval queue, and Auto Approval torrents should also be rated.
It seems the rating system would be better if we incorporate ballard1's idea (only people who've completed the torrent can rate it). Maybe, to add to it, the rating button would log the user out if they haven't completed the torrent yet, or something like that (lol). I like the rating system and wish more people would use it. It still does come in handy.
Maybe I don't get it :), but it wouldn't make sense to me if the staff rating was visible to users since we don't know anything about the actual video or whatever file. All we know is what's on the download page.
Well, I can't imagine how else would a user acquire that many points, unless he uploads a torrent and waits for 500 Thank You's
Oh, I see now (hehe, posting at bedtime doesn't always work out :)), I think… ONLY 5 star torrents get 50 rep points and all the other rep points are earned 1 point at a time?   Or how many for an upload?
@geographer:
And, a new thought came to my mind: it would be very nice if staff had some SPB "from the office" just for these cases…
Agreed
[off-topic]@cumeaternc:
Why reward some lazy member who can't create his own uploads. That is what I take offence to….VERY EASILY!
If a user is too f**king dense to upload a torrent themselves then you better believe I will side with an uploader EVERY TIME! Seeding is great  but when it is at the expense of an uploader who cannot even get complete credit for HIS UPLOAD then I have a real problem with that.
In the "thieves" mind he might just be thinking about helping get the torrent out faster so everyone doesn't get blue balls downloading at 2kB for example. Me, I like those people. Lazy, maybe some, but there's also people who are trying to help. Of course they can upload if they can reseed. Whenever I uploaded it was only because I wanted to put a torrent here, and I appreciated everyone who jumped on my torrent to help out. Why should everyone suffer a slow download just because someone doesn't know how to manage their ratio and wants all he can get out of his upload, or is a ratio whore and only wants more more more to inflate their ratio? It's about sharing files, not how high you can inflate your ratio. I care more about receiving Thank You's or some nice torrent comments and knowing people enjoyed my upload. Ratio? I'll earn it by seeding some torrents and not being download happy. Everyone who has a slow connection needs to know how to manage their torrents and ratio a little better than fastliners. Uploaders should get some SBP just for uploading. Maybe 50 SBP (?). That'll help ease this. [/off-topic]