@manhandler said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@bi4smooth In your dreams. Trump isn't fascist at all. If he was he'd be in the white house like Hitler right now. But he's not a fascist, and he stepped aside so stop acting like he's oppressing you or something. It's totally fake... Your little act...

Hitler was a fascist. So was Mussolini - indeed, many say he was the template from which Hitler drew his own fascist ideals! But so was Austria's Dollfuß, Brasil's Getúlio Vargas... and many more. It's not like Fascism is new - or even was new last century!

It's in-part the "cult of personality" that makes Trump a fascist... but if you think I expected you to open your eyes and recognize the error of your ways, you're even more delusional than I thought! LOL No, you'll believe Trump really DID win - because to admit otherwise will be to admit you've been a fool - until the day you die! And no facts - true or otherwise - will EVER dissuade you from that belief, because you'll never - EVER - admit you could have been so badly fooled.

@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth No, the Republicans were in control and allowed these machines. They simply don't want that fact out. It is what it is. Don't act like I'm being stabbed in the back by someone I already knew was a traitor. I didn't vote for that jackass. You act like when a Republican is busted for being a two faced hypocrite that it's worse than when a Democrat does it.

No, but I don't think massive numbers of Republican Secretaries of State all over the country colluded to "steal" the election from Trump, either!

Will there be discrepancies? Sure! Will they exceed 1%? Unlikely... indeed, I think that's what the delay is... they can't find ENOUGH "wiggle room" to make it so that Trump actually wins! LOL - and they'll keep on looking until the money runs out! Nothing like a bunch of lawyers to burn through money until it's ALL gone! Just ask anyone whose ever been in a DIVORCE! LOL

Personally, I think it was aliens... I think the AZ re-counters should be looking for non-human DNA on those ballots!

@manhandler said in The left is eating itself.:

@bi4smooth And.. we've escaped the discussion that half the CDC and NIH have refused the vax. The vax has been banned in many nations for blood clots and other neurodegenerative problems. Why won't HALF the CDC and NIH take the VAX? Those guys telling us that it's safe and effective?

I have to admit, I'm not a big fan of the older-tech vaccines... their efficacy rates are 50/50-ish, when compared to the mRNA based vaccines (whose efficacy is over 95%).

Saying you're pro-Vaccine for COVID-19 is like saying you're pro-car... there are so many to choose from (3 in the US, 2 in India, 1 each in Russia and China, and a half-dozen or so more made in other countries)... but only 2 use the mRNA technology: Moderna & Pfizer.

I'm thankful that I got the Pfizer in Jan/Feb - thanks to a Federal program (inherited from the Trump Administration!)

@manhandler said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@bi4smooth That is totally wrong. It's your side that's terrible. You don't even prove anything you just make wild accusations like "Trump is Satan!!! Because... OBVIOYUSLY!!!" You're ridiculous.

Trump isn't satan... I actually don't even believe in satan...

Thanks for putting words into my mouth... sadly, I reject them... I'll keep my own words, thank you...

Trump is a Nationalist Fascist! Pure and simple... he meets the tests! (and scores remarkably highly! I'm sure he'd be proud of himself!)

@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth Yea right, the entire audit is being recorded 24/7, the most transparent audit ever. When election night was going on, they boarded up the windows so people couldn't look inside, and then they are on camera pulling ballots out from under the table in suitcases, then Biden won. What a joke.

You should stop for a minute and lookup the definition of "audit"... what they're doing is more akin to a REAL "Witch Hunt" than an audit!

Again, even the REAL Republicans in AZ are calling this a farce! You'd think you could keep your own party in line if there was a hint of legitimacy!

@manhandler said in The left is eating itself.:

@bi4smooth They used masks in the Spanish flu, and most of those mask-wearers got bacterial infections. It didn't work. That's another thing. Is it racist to call it the Wuhan flu? Well, what about the Spanish flu? Why isn't that racist? Why isn't Ebola racist? Ebola got it's name from Africa the same way Wuhan did. But only that one is racist because we don't know what we're talking about.

Read your history, foolish boy... they called it the "Spanish Flu" in 1918 because Spain was neutral in WW1 - no other reason. It didn't start there - no one ever seriously claimed it did! But as a matter of War and Diplomacy, they called it the Spanish Flu...

That said, since the 1940's scientists (in preparation for embarrassing Donald Trump, who had just been born, at this juncture in history) switched to simply calling it the 1918 Flu... kinda like they call this one COVID-19 (and none of those silly anti-Asian names Trump wanted to call it).

Of course, we want to call it COVID-19 today, instead of the Wuhan Flu because we want to have the opportunity to embarrass young Johnny Wu, who is just 4 years old today in China, but will grow up to become the dictator of more than 1/2 the entire world in 2076!

@manhandler said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@bi4smooth No you can't actually explain what you're talking about. You say Trump is a fascist... In what way?

Trump is a fascist:

First of all, what exactly IS a fascist:
... Fascists believe in a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition

So, one of the first areas where Trump demonstrated his fascism was in the 2016 campaign when he said: "I alone can solve these problems"

Next, the "America First" ultra-nationalism he preaches meets the definition

Next, his belief that he was above the law - and his attempt to overthrow the law, so he could stay in power... meets the definition.

Finally, his demonization and attacks on all who oppose him - even those in his own party - his insistence on TOTAL FEALTY... meets the definition.

But it's important to note that each of these characteristics ALONE don't make someone a fascist.... it's when they all come together that you get fascism!

Now, if you'd have had an OUNCE of INTELLIGENCE, you might have looked up the definition of FASCIST yourself and saved yourself this diatribe...

If IGNORANCE IS BLISS... you're one BLISSFUL bloke!

@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth You are being ridiculous. There has been atleast five documentaries about it. And you're pretending that it's all completely nonexistant. You are a gaslighter. There is so much proof that the democrats sent 100 lawyers to Arizona. Why not just say, "Ok... look at the ballots... they're all legit." You're not fooling anyone with your little word magic.

Ummm... the only people allowed to touch the ballots in AZ are Trumpsters (not even actual Republicans dispute the Arizona results - they'd already done a REAL audit!)

If Trump were the target here, he's use his favorite phrase...

It's a witch hunt!

Facts don't matter to you... the messaging does... anything that supports the message "Trump really won" must be true, and anything that doesn't support that message must be false, misleading, and evil.

In other words... Nationalist Fascism...

Hail Trump!

@manhandler said in The left is eating itself.:

@bi4smooth First, you started with a huge fallacy right from the beginning. I watched a carbon dioxide detector go off with a guy in a face mask, and then continue to rise with the addition of masks. That was Owen Shroyer. The more masks he wore, the more the CO2 went off. So yes, you ARE breathing that right back in.

You're so delusional... if these people told you that pure water was harmful to you, you'd start drinking your own piss!

Of course, the REAL crime here is all of the MILLIONS of people dropping dead every day from CO2 poisoning from wearing masks! Clearly the danger is there! Right there with the corpses of the people dying from wearing the masks!

Can't see the forest for the trees....

@manhandler said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@bi4smooth In what way is Trump fascist? That's ridiculous. He had 50K people at the rally I went to where I held a big giant rainbow flag and the people loved me. Joe Xiden Biden "Robinette" Biden. It's ironic that his middle name, Joseph "Robinette" Biden sounds like "Robbin' It."

If you don't see the Nationalist Fascism in the Trump movement post election 2020, then you don't know what the term means.... or you choose to turn a blind eye to it...

You can't fix stupid....

@raphjd said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth

Sorry, but you cant excuse away your extreme TDS.

You blame Trump for what liberal mayors and Govs have allowed to happen.

You are such a tool! It's laughable!

@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth I agree with Flynn in that there is overwhelming proof that the Democrats cheated and they will now have to step down. That's going to be a total blow to everything they've ever imagined.

You're delusional...

• IF there was actual evidence of such massive vote fraud, we'd have heard about it - not from the alt-right news, but from members of Congress and Republican leadership
• IF there was actual evidence of such massive vote fraud, at this point there is nothing you could do about it except attempt to impeach Biden! He's immune from criminal prosecution while he's President, and if you think he'd step down - with Dems in control of both houses of Congress - you're both delusional AND just plain stupid.

@manhandler said in The left is eating itself.:

@eobox91103 Well that's like saying if there's extra oxygen that can't be absorbed, and it's in abundance, extra oxygen is something that we should be super scared of. So because there's extra carbon dioxide (the 69 of oxygen), then we should be super worried and vote by mail and wear a mask and like what the hell is wrong with you? You are not free. Lucifer was the freest of all the angels. Do you think he would have been so pathetic as you wearing that stupid face covering, breathing in the very CO2 your side claims is poisoning the planet? CO2 is bad, so let's also wear a mask to breath it in. Funny how this is all coming from one side of the aisle. All the things are connected to a singular point. The democratic party. CO2, masks, election fraud, vaccines. Out of control frenzy.

You truly are an example of how a little (very little) knowledge is a dangerous thing.

You would DIE without CO2 and Nitrogen in the air... the Oxygen in the atmosphere is needed to "feed" our cells, but the CO2 and Nitrogen are equally important - in their proper proportions!

Breathing in a slightly higher CO2 concentration because of a mask is:

• a myth - if the mask was truly capturing the CO2, it would be inflating!
• even to the TINY extent that it can raise the CO2 that you inhale, it is not dangerous - not even to people with sever respiratory illnesses!

You silly, misguided TOOLS of the Russians (and/or Chinese) miss the point of the masks - it's not to CATCH the virus! It's to block the water (spit) droplets that the virus lives in... not to even capture them, just block them - so they don't travel so far away from you!

Think of it this way... load up a paint sprayer and get some screening (like you would put on a screen door:

• hold the screen up against your house and stand back about 3-5 feet and spray the screen... your house gets paint all over it... albeit LESS paint than it would without the screen having been there, but there's paint all over that part of the house. But this is the protection YOU get FOR YOURSELF by wearing a mask (when others do not)... and it's a little, but not much.
• now, hold the screen a few inches in front of the spray nozzle and spray towards the house again... you'll see that the ground gets LOTS of paint, the house a little - probably VERY little. Because the screen slowed down the paint so much it didn't reach the house. This is the protection YOU get FOR YOURSELF when SOMEONE ELSE wears a mask... and it's not perfect, but it's substantial.
• Finally, hold screens up in both places... you should get the idea by now...

In countries that don't have adequate supplies of vaccine yet, this is their BEST DEFENSE.

Here in the US, at least for vaccinated people, your paint gun has no paint! LOL

But the whole idea that the wearing of a mask was somehow a massive intrusion on your personal life/space/comfort is ABSURD and FARCICAL! A woman's bra is more uncomfortable than a facemask! Some kinds of men's underwear too!

@jsl76 said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth

Flynn himself repudiates what's been ascribed to him: https://news.yahoo.com/michael-flynn-denies-suggesting-myanmar-220150348.html

Flynn says he didn't mean it - and I trust him in that (though if you watch the video, there isn't much to walk back... which is to say, he doesn't give himself much "wiggle room"... he's pretty blatantly calling for a military coup!)...

My outrage isn't so much with him (tho it is to a lesser extent), it is with the crowd's reaction - in full, enthusiastic support of a military coup because they lost an election!

I'm using this term in another topic, but it's apropos here as well - this is Nationalist Fascism! \

Self-delusional, and dangerous!

@manhandler said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@manhandler And isn't it funny, that the socialist quad squad is promoting socialism AND talking like Hitler against Israel? Like we're in 1942. Socialists! Like the National SOCIALIST Party (NAZIS). Funny how those 2 things are common in these 4. Are you connecting the dots?

You're conflating Nationalist Fascist with socialist. Trump is a Nationalist Fascist... the squad are socialists.

I agree with neither, but only 1 of them is a true danger to Democracy as we know it.

@raphjd said in More liberal logic:

@manhandler said in More liberal logic:

@raphjd And we hope you die!!! Especially if you live 20 minutes from the Police station.

That's extremely hostile.

I think you may be confused. I am not a liberal, so that is not MY logic.

Straw man anyone?

@raphjd said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth

Do you mean like how your beloved President has ordered loyalty tests for the military, Secret Service and Capitol Police?

Your beloved President already labeled himself a dictator, as discussed in a couple of threads.

You voted for a guy who loves China more than he cares about the US.

You voted for a guy that you knew to be extremely dirty.

What does that say about YOU.

It says I chose the lesser of 2 evils... I've been pretty clear about that from the start!

Re-write it any way you want... characterize it with any hyperbole you want.

Biden is still better FOR THE COUNTRY than Trump would have been...

Country above party above self...

It speaks for itself: I valued "saving" the country over "winning at all costs" (for the Party), and over my personal distaste for both politicians... clearly a LOT of other registered Republicans acted the way I did... because we won way more than we should have down-ballot, and Trump seemed to have "negative" coattails!

Honestly, since George HW Bush, I don't think I've EVER voted for President in the US when I didn't have to "hold my nose" - at least a little - because I didn't particularly like either candidate!

I would LOVE to live in your world: where for every evil, there is an equal and opposite HERO... and for every "Good Guy", there is a sniveling, "Snidely Whiplash" character to be the foil... But I live in reality... no person is all good, nor all evil.

@raphjd said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@bi4smooth

Your beloved Fauci, the WHO, CDC, etc, etc, etc have all flip-flopped on masks. If the experts can't make up their minds, then how do you expect the non-experts to know the truth?

It's also like how Fauci and Co have suddenly reversed themselves on whether it was, at least in part, made in the Wuhan lab.

If you wear 2 swimsuits, you can pee in the pool. If you wear 3 swimsuits, you can shit in the pool.

For 4,000 years, every expert on the planet thought the world was flat (some people still do! really!)...

New information = new scientific results. But not when you're an ideologue defending the "supreme infallibility" of your "movement"...

When you were 2, your parents thought you'd NEVER get potty trained! I can only presume that you eventually proved them wrong... should they have "stuck to their guns" - even AFTER you started to "pee in the big boy potty"??? I think not. (Thankfully, for you anyway, your parents weren't ideologues about potty training!)

This clinging to old data is pure "Nationalist Fascism" - straight outta the playbook! Your "side" is infallible... you couldn't have made a mistake, and you can't let something like FACTS get in the way of your "message"...

It's a tired trope - and, while it's never made it this far in US History before, there have been other periods of highly "popular" Nationalist Fascism in this country... it eventually crumbles under the increasing weight of having to prop up so many lies and falsehoods... all in support of conspiracy theories.

I'm biding my time... and I should point out that I don't fault you for these insane beliefs! You're "following your leaders"... you're being misled. You are to be pitied, not vilified!

Former NSA Michael Flynn stepped on his own dick this weekend, answering a question from the audience:

Q: "I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here?"

For reference, the Myanmar military overthrew the democratically-elected Government because they didn't like the outcome. The coup has been bloody and violent, and has been criticized by virtually ALL of the rest of the world.

Mr. Flynn's response - after a short pause for consideration :

A: "No reason. I mean, it should happen here. No reason, that's right"

This is Nationalist Fascism... pure and simple.

Had he not started today (a day later) to try to walk-back that simple comment, he'd likely be in deep legal trouble. And he may still be: Publicly espousing the violent overthrow of the US Government is Sedition and Treason.

So, he's trying to walk it back to cover his ass... but where is the outrage from Conservatives? The audience members APPLAUDED that response! If you're not outraged at the response itself, be outraged at the response to it!

I want to be clear here: I mean where are the Conservative responses - NOT the Trumpite responses... we already know they support this kind of rhetoric! I mean Conservative voices like Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell & Kevin McCarthy!

I'll tell you - they're silent because they're cowards - afraid to stand up against this Nationalist Fascism in our own Party for fear of losing re-election.

Country above party above self...

Unless you're a coward.

@manhandler said in The left is eating itself.:

Oh thoughts, you keep teasing me.

CO2 is actually beneficial to greenery. Lol. CO2 is like, oxygen to trees, and the more CO2, the more trees. There is more CO2, so there is more vegetation now by 14+%. But the left wants us to think that we need CO2 to go to zero. Humans exhale CO2 so that means you'd have to kill us all to get to zero, and when you did get to zero, there would be no CO2... meaning nothing left for trees to breath. God damn. I am so tired of this ignorance.

You know the science about Greenhouse Gasses about as well as a gnat understands how and why it can fly. (And that's being generous - to the gnat!)

CO2 is not dangerous (and is - indeed - necessary for most life) in low-altitude atmosphere - but it is incredibly dangerous to the OZONE in the upper atmosphere - and it is the OZONE in the upper atmosphere that protects ALL LIFE on the surface from harmful radiation from the Sun.

Lose the Ozone layer, and the only life on this planet will be in caves and under water... and NONE of that life will be bipedal!

To follow YOUR banal logic, water is good... water is life... melting the ice caps and raising sealevels by - why not 5 feet! - would be a great thing!

I tell you what: water is good for you - necessary for life... I suggest you drink 3 gallons of water a day for a week. (Actually - I want to be clear: that's sarcasm! If you really did that, you would literally drown!)