@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth I agree with Flynn in that there is overwhelming proof that the Democrats cheated and they will now have to step down. That's going to be a total blow to everything they've ever imagined.

You're delusional...

• IF there was actual evidence of such massive vote fraud, we'd have heard about it - not from the alt-right news, but from members of Congress and Republican leadership
• IF there was actual evidence of such massive vote fraud, at this point there is nothing you could do about it except attempt to impeach Biden! He's immune from criminal prosecution while he's President, and if you think he'd step down - with Dems in control of both houses of Congress - you're both delusional AND just plain stupid.

@manhandler said in The left is eating itself.:

@eobox91103 Well that's like saying if there's extra oxygen that can't be absorbed, and it's in abundance, extra oxygen is something that we should be super scared of. So because there's extra carbon dioxide (the 69 of oxygen), then we should be super worried and vote by mail and wear a mask and like what the hell is wrong with you? You are not free. Lucifer was the freest of all the angels. Do you think he would have been so pathetic as you wearing that stupid face covering, breathing in the very CO2 your side claims is poisoning the planet? CO2 is bad, so let's also wear a mask to breath it in. Funny how this is all coming from one side of the aisle. All the things are connected to a singular point. The democratic party. CO2, masks, election fraud, vaccines. Out of control frenzy.

You truly are an example of how a little (very little) knowledge is a dangerous thing.

You would DIE without CO2 and Nitrogen in the air... the Oxygen in the atmosphere is needed to "feed" our cells, but the CO2 and Nitrogen are equally important - in their proper proportions!

Breathing in a slightly higher CO2 concentration because of a mask is:

• a myth - if the mask was truly capturing the CO2, it would be inflating!
• even to the TINY extent that it can raise the CO2 that you inhale, it is not dangerous - not even to people with sever respiratory illnesses!

You silly, misguided TOOLS of the Russians (and/or Chinese) miss the point of the masks - it's not to CATCH the virus! It's to block the water (spit) droplets that the virus lives in... not to even capture them, just block them - so they don't travel so far away from you!

Think of it this way... load up a paint sprayer and get some screening (like you would put on a screen door:

• hold the screen up against your house and stand back about 3-5 feet and spray the screen... your house gets paint all over it... albeit LESS paint than it would without the screen having been there, but there's paint all over that part of the house. But this is the protection YOU get FOR YOURSELF by wearing a mask (when others do not)... and it's a little, but not much.
• now, hold the screen a few inches in front of the spray nozzle and spray towards the house again... you'll see that the ground gets LOTS of paint, the house a little - probably VERY little. Because the screen slowed down the paint so much it didn't reach the house. This is the protection YOU get FOR YOURSELF when SOMEONE ELSE wears a mask... and it's not perfect, but it's substantial.
• Finally, hold screens up in both places... you should get the idea by now...

In countries that don't have adequate supplies of vaccine yet, this is their BEST DEFENSE.

Here in the US, at least for vaccinated people, your paint gun has no paint! LOL

But the whole idea that the wearing of a mask was somehow a massive intrusion on your personal life/space/comfort is ABSURD and FARCICAL! A woman's bra is more uncomfortable than a facemask! Some kinds of men's underwear too!

@jsl76 said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth

Flynn himself repudiates what's been ascribed to him: https://news.yahoo.com/michael-flynn-denies-suggesting-myanmar-220150348.html

Flynn says he didn't mean it - and I trust him in that (though if you watch the video, there isn't much to walk back... which is to say, he doesn't give himself much "wiggle room"... he's pretty blatantly calling for a military coup!)...

My outrage isn't so much with him (tho it is to a lesser extent), it is with the crowd's reaction - in full, enthusiastic support of a military coup because they lost an election!

I'm using this term in another topic, but it's apropos here as well - this is Nationalist Fascism! \

Self-delusional, and dangerous!

@manhandler said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@manhandler And isn't it funny, that the socialist quad squad is promoting socialism AND talking like Hitler against Israel? Like we're in 1942. Socialists! Like the National SOCIALIST Party (NAZIS). Funny how those 2 things are common in these 4. Are you connecting the dots?

You're conflating Nationalist Fascist with socialist. Trump is a Nationalist Fascist... the squad are socialists.

I agree with neither, but only 1 of them is a true danger to Democracy as we know it.

@raphjd said in More liberal logic:

@manhandler said in More liberal logic:

@raphjd And we hope you die!!! Especially if you live 20 minutes from the Police station.

That's extremely hostile.

I think you may be confused. I am not a liberal, so that is not MY logic.

Straw man anyone?

@raphjd said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:

@bi4smooth

Do you mean like how your beloved President has ordered loyalty tests for the military, Secret Service and Capitol Police?

Your beloved President already labeled himself a dictator, as discussed in a couple of threads.

You voted for a guy who loves China more than he cares about the US.

You voted for a guy that you knew to be extremely dirty.

What does that say about YOU.

It says I chose the lesser of 2 evils... I've been pretty clear about that from the start!

Re-write it any way you want... characterize it with any hyperbole you want.

Biden is still better FOR THE COUNTRY than Trump would have been...

Country above party above self...

It speaks for itself: I valued "saving" the country over "winning at all costs" (for the Party), and over my personal distaste for both politicians... clearly a LOT of other registered Republicans acted the way I did... because we won way more than we should have down-ballot, and Trump seemed to have "negative" coattails!

Honestly, since George HW Bush, I don't think I've EVER voted for President in the US when I didn't have to "hold my nose" - at least a little - because I didn't particularly like either candidate!

I would LOVE to live in your world: where for every evil, there is an equal and opposite HERO... and for every "Good Guy", there is a sniveling, "Snidely Whiplash" character to be the foil... But I live in reality... no person is all good, nor all evil.

@raphjd said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@bi4smooth

Your beloved Fauci, the WHO, CDC, etc, etc, etc have all flip-flopped on masks. If the experts can't make up their minds, then how do you expect the non-experts to know the truth?

It's also like how Fauci and Co have suddenly reversed themselves on whether it was, at least in part, made in the Wuhan lab.

If you wear 2 swimsuits, you can pee in the pool. If you wear 3 swimsuits, you can shit in the pool.

For 4,000 years, every expert on the planet thought the world was flat (some people still do! really!)...

New information = new scientific results. But not when you're an ideologue defending the "supreme infallibility" of your "movement"...

When you were 2, your parents thought you'd NEVER get potty trained! I can only presume that you eventually proved them wrong... should they have "stuck to their guns" - even AFTER you started to "pee in the big boy potty"??? I think not. (Thankfully, for you anyway, your parents weren't ideologues about potty training!)

This clinging to old data is pure "Nationalist Fascism" - straight outta the playbook! Your "side" is infallible... you couldn't have made a mistake, and you can't let something like FACTS get in the way of your "message"...

It's a tired trope - and, while it's never made it this far in US History before, there have been other periods of highly "popular" Nationalist Fascism in this country... it eventually crumbles under the increasing weight of having to prop up so many lies and falsehoods... all in support of conspiracy theories.

I'm biding my time... and I should point out that I don't fault you for these insane beliefs! You're "following your leaders"... you're being misled. You are to be pitied, not vilified!

Former NSA Michael Flynn stepped on his own dick this weekend, answering a question from the audience:

Q: "I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here?"

For reference, the Myanmar military overthrew the democratically-elected Government because they didn't like the outcome. The coup has been bloody and violent, and has been criticized by virtually ALL of the rest of the world.

Mr. Flynn's response - after a short pause for consideration :

A: "No reason. I mean, it should happen here. No reason, that's right"

This is Nationalist Fascism... pure and simple.

Had he not started today (a day later) to try to walk-back that simple comment, he'd likely be in deep legal trouble. And he may still be: Publicly espousing the violent overthrow of the US Government is Sedition and Treason.

So, he's trying to walk it back to cover his ass... but where is the outrage from Conservatives? The audience members APPLAUDED that response! If you're not outraged at the response itself, be outraged at the response to it!

I want to be clear here: I mean where are the Conservative responses - NOT the Trumpite responses... we already know they support this kind of rhetoric! I mean Conservative voices like Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell & Kevin McCarthy!

I'll tell you - they're silent because they're cowards - afraid to stand up against this Nationalist Fascism in our own Party for fear of losing re-election.

Country above party above self...

Unless you're a coward.

@manhandler said in The left is eating itself.:

Oh thoughts, you keep teasing me.

CO2 is actually beneficial to greenery. Lol. CO2 is like, oxygen to trees, and the more CO2, the more trees. There is more CO2, so there is more vegetation now by 14+%. But the left wants us to think that we need CO2 to go to zero. Humans exhale CO2 so that means you'd have to kill us all to get to zero, and when you did get to zero, there would be no CO2... meaning nothing left for trees to breath. God damn. I am so tired of this ignorance.

You know the science about Greenhouse Gasses about as well as a gnat understands how and why it can fly. (And that's being generous - to the gnat!)

CO2 is not dangerous (and is - indeed - necessary for most life) in low-altitude atmosphere - but it is incredibly dangerous to the OZONE in the upper atmosphere - and it is the OZONE in the upper atmosphere that protects ALL LIFE on the surface from harmful radiation from the Sun.

Lose the Ozone layer, and the only life on this planet will be in caves and under water... and NONE of that life will be bipedal!

To follow YOUR banal logic, water is good... water is life... melting the ice caps and raising sealevels by - why not 5 feet! - would be a great thing!

I tell you what: water is good for you - necessary for life... I suggest you drink 3 gallons of water a day for a week. (Actually - I want to be clear: that's sarcasm! If you really did that, you would literally drown!)

@manhandler said in Keep that mask on your face you dirty human.:

@manhandler Correction* It's a Democratic Party Operation. Born straight out of Communism, which everyone in the entire world knows SUCKS. Except for the white liberals in America who seem to be the cheerleaders for a group of elitists who decide how much each person gets.

You're a fool - and a tool.

People around the Globe (not just in the US) are successfully protecting themselves from COVID-19 with masks - masks of all kinds. Their success is why there are 3.5+ million deaths and not 10x that number!

Your reticence that this is a conspiracy - somehow focused against YOU is textbook Fascist Nationalism...

And before you accuse me of demagoguery - check up on the DEFINITION of that term.

@tj16 said in Had an account for a while, new to the forum:

@bi4smooth said in Had an account for a while, new to the forum:

Look around - most of us are friendly (just put on your fire-proof undies if you wander into the politics sections!)...

Agreed, lest you find out that a depressing amount of gays are Trump supporters.

LOL - I don't think their numbers are large, just that their mouths are! (That is, few numbers - but very loud!)

Look - Google is large-enough in the search world to be almost a monopoly... they handle more than 92% of the World's Internet Searches (either directly, or because smaller search engines use Google as a back-end)...

Except for one thing: one of the requirements to be a monopoly is for there to be a significant barrier to entry. For example, it'd be incredibly expensive for an alternative phone company to come in and run new wires to every address in your town... so the local phone company really IS a monopoly, and is under partial Government control because of it.

That's where "Internet Monopoly" claims fail to meet the test: the only thing stopping Bing (which accounts for about 3% of Internet searches in 2nd place) from handling 100% of Google's workload is the choices of the Internet community! (They already have the capacity - do a Bing search for Azure (the cloud, not the color))...

The Internet is fickle... Facebook replaced MySpace in a matter of a few very short years.... Bing made HUGE inroads against Google in Internet Search - at one time garnering over 20% of the traffic... but then they lost it!

Other new services will arise... patience padawan...

The cost of "building" an alternative to Twitter isn't in the mechanics or the infrastructure (you can build your Twitter alternative in any of the big cloud vendor's data centers and only pay for what you use... the site can literally grow as your user base does (and shrink as your user base does)... not just month-to-month, or week-to-week... but minute-to-minute! (Cloud infrastructure is what I do... Trust me, unless they were careless or stupid, Parler could have been back up in another cloud vendor in less than a day!

No, what's stopping Parler from challenging Twitter (or Facebook) is purely the choices of people as to which provider (or platform) they want to be on...

@raphjd said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth

But you said it as if you were an absolute expert on the topic.

You finally admitted that you talked out of your ass over this because you weren't interested enough in the topic.

Clearly, in your version of being a conservative "collusion" is an acceptable practice.

When businesses form a cabal, they are monopolistic.

So Amazon & Google (truly BITTER rivals in business) are in a cabal, trying to suppress the speech of Trumpites... Oh, and they're joined by Microsoft and Apple (two more BITTER rivals)... and IBM and Oracle (more BITTER rivals)... but they're all agreed: collude to silence people they don't agree with politically (in spite of the fact that IBM & Oracle usually back Conservatives more than the liberals)... all because they CONTROL the Internet...

Deluded conspiracy theory anybody?

Oh, and the Chinese, and 189 other foreign countries all colluded (another cabal?) to create the HOAX that was COVID-19 ... solely to oust Trump from office! Yeah - that's the ticket!

@raphjd said in Liberal hysteria and 6 Jan 2020:

@bi4smooth

You are a supporter of BLM.

As we keep seeing you justifying their "summer of love" and "mostly peaceful protests". I'm sure you do this so you can demonize those involved in 6 Jan 2021 as the evilest people in the world.

Umm, PA's Sec of State changed the law on his own, despite the US and PA state consitutions saying the legislature is the one responsible for that. So it was one of your fellow liberals that changed the law on his own.

LOL, you keep raging about Trump and you say I need to build a bridge.

You liberals got the crooked losers in the WH that you wanted and you still arent happy.

ROFL - You repeatedly call me a liberal, then tell me everything I don't know about liberals.

I think you're just a sore loser, like Trump himself, and you'll be arguing about the 2020 election in 2032!

Thanks for telling me what I support and what i don't - I'd be lost without you. I guess my clear description of my thoughts on BLM were made while I was high, or in the midst of a really intense orgasm or something. Anyway, thanks for trying to set me straight (on a gay board)...

For what its worth: I don't rail against Trump - he's a pathetic, proven loser, and it's only a matter of time before the lies come back to haunt him... no, I rail against your characterization of him as a flawless demi-God who doesn't even shit, so there's no need to worry if it stinks!

Want me to drop it wrt Trump? You first!

@jsl76 said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@jsl76 said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@jsl76 said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

You couldn't be MORE wrong:

• Parler was not de-listed on Android's "store" at all, but Apple DID de-list them - but not for politics... when they were de-platformed, they became in violation of Apple's agreements.

Why do you insist on telling people they're wrong when a simple Google search will prove that you are either lying or woefully ignorant? Parler WAS pulled from Google Play Store -- see https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html for the story.

OK, that must've come after Apple did it - and after they were de-platformed. I freely admit I haven't "stayed up" with the Parler story - and why would I? It's not something I find interesting:

• They were shut-off by AWS (Amazon Web Services) - so what? There are literally dozens of big-name competitors, and hundreds of smaller ones...
  What would you do if your cell carrier dropped your service? Complain? File a lawsuit? Or, walk over to another carrier and start service with them!

This has been a NON-Story from the beginning!

When we say "We live in a free society" that freedom cuts both ways!

• ISPs have disconnected users because of torrenting DMCA-protected files... complaints were made to the FCC, who supported the decision to "de-platform" users who the carrier didn't want to support they "way they used the service"
• Phone companies have disconnected users because of complaints of spam calling... complaints were made to the FCC... same result: they don't HAVE to keep you as a customer.

Personally, with the new law in Florida purporting to fine Twitter or FB if they kick out a political candidate... if I was Twitter (or FB), as soon as the first fine was levied, I'd cutoff the entire State! Bye Bye!

For someone who can't be bothered enough to perform even basic research, you sure seem invested in spewing many unnecessary lines of prose on the subject.

Again: what would motivate me to re-research (or, more correctly, update) my earlier research... This is a DUMB topic for the reasons given...

Parler is no-longer de-platformed - they found a new host. (I have no idea if they're back on Apple's or Google's phone-app stores - and I don't care).

You're like children whose ice cream was dropped - 6 months ago - and you still want to hash out why it happened! Be an adult: buy another cone!

And yet, you continue to bloviate on the topic. Newsflash, sugarplum: People who think a topic is "dumb" generally don't engage with it on Internet forums. They pass it by. So you're now even lying about your own motivations. Sad and pathetic.

Why can't you just admit that you'd rather lie and gaslight about a topic than to research it so you can engage in civil debate? That refreshing burst of honesty might do you some good.

... and people wonder why so few people ever admit to mistakes online. I admitted that my facts might be (I didn't re-research it - what would be the point?) have been outdated. They were right at one point, but not later... ok, yes, I was wrong - and I admitted it! Honestly, that should be the end of it, but not for you guys! Talk about gaslighting!

And I will re-iterate that none of it matters anymore because Parler is online again with another hosting provider. I challenge you to find a significant change in Parler present because they're on this new platform vs. AWS!

And how ABSURD that you present yourselves as Conservatives, but yet want to curb the rights of independent, non-monopolistic businesses from running their enterprises as they see fit!

So, with that said: is the topic to be about big-tech's rights to operate their own businesses, or is it about the fact that I admitted one of my facts was out-dated? (Have either of you ever admitted to being wrong here? LOL)

@raphjd said in Liberal hysteria and 6 Jan 2020:

@bi4smooth

Umm, let's not forget that one of your BLM founder buddies was there inciting violence.

As the supreme expert in absolutely everything, you should know that 99% of the court cases about the last election had nothing to do with Trump.

In fact, as the supreme expert in absolutely everything, you would know that some of the lawsuits came from your fellow Dems. Tim Pool even had some on his show.

BTW, do you remember that you defended some of the Dems that sued in court to overturn their loss based on voter fraud? Yeah, you used some sort of liberal, extreme TDS to come up with some mental gymnastics to justify what they were doing.

Again with your revisionist history

• I'm neither a founder of, believer in, member of, nor a supporter of BLM - however, in your world (which isn't even close to the REAL world, IMHO), that I believe that one of their beefs is a valid beef means I'm fucking the founders and raising their children while they fight the good fight! I wish you would stop "taking my inventory" - I state my beliefs well enough, and at great length enough, that you don't need to re-interpret them!
• The court cases about the 2020 election were about (prepare to be shocked and amazed) the 2020 election, and supposed fraud therein. Trump's attorneys attempted to change the rules and results in hundreds of cases, and won only marginal victories (e.g.: already present monitors in some voting centers could stand a couple of feet closer than before the suit)... But in many (most... the vast majority) of these cases, the suit never even made it past the first evidentiary hearing! No judgement was made to the facts of the case, no jury was empaneled... because no facts were brought to the case! No evidence presented at the evidentiary hearing! Just baseless accusations!
• I don't fault Trump (or Democrats) for filing suits - I fault them for filing baseless suits based on nothing but hearsay and empty accusations. Those were a waste of time and taxpayer money! The suits brought that DID have evidence - on both sides - are all part of the process! The legitimate process of making sure the 2020 election was free & fair... which it was, in spite of the fact that Trump lost. (His loss is not evidence of fraud in and of itself!)
• BTW: I defended people on BOTH sides who brought lawsuits that had a basis in fact... they had a right to be heard, even if 90% of them (90% of the non-Trump) were ruled against! It was their right to try!

What you continue to miss is that election integrity isn't a zero-sum game! Every Republican vote cast wasn't "pure" and ever Democrat vote cast wasn't "fraudulent"... in the end, Republicans won most of the races they competed in... just not the Presidential one. And I'll repeat that I firmly believe it is because Trump made it about him personally instead of being about policy and results. Trump is not a likeable person to most people, as evidenced in the popularity contest that was substituted in for the Presidential election.

No mental gymnastics here - just a different "framework" about what is right vs. what is wrong - in my world people on both sides get to have their day in court IF they have evidence of wrong-doing. My "beef" is with the whiners and sore-losers who can't let it go even after the court rulings.

Build a bridge and get over it!

@raphjd said in Liberals - vaccine passports vs voter ID:

@bi4smooth

Don't lie.

You downplayed BLM's action because you wanted to claim that 6 Jan 2021 was the worst thing to ever happen to the US.

I haven't downplayed BLM - but I didn't have the visceral & vitriolic reaction you did... so I can understand your confusion.

Due to your ex being black, you believe all the crap spewed by the left about racism. You people ignore facts, such as those posted by the DOJ/FBI because they don't suit your narrative. St Obama's DOJ/FBI proved without a doubt that "hands up, don't shoot" was a total fucking lie, yet you people keep spewing it.

I haven't ever, personally, in my life, attended a protest or a march. Pride parades? sure! Protests? Not so much... so please be careful with that you crap.

I can't help it if you're a tired, scared little white man - afraid of the truth. But I've never attempted to extrapolate the bigotry my ex and I personally experienced. Is it illustrative? sure! It is "proof" of a national problem? Not so much... a handful of cases from Florida (home of Florida Man!) does not a nationwwide-pattern make!

Again, the extrapolation and hyperbole are yours, not mine.

My mixed-race sister hates BLM and blactivists because they are liars and so are their supporters.

BLM is a liberal organization. I'm doubting that your sister hates BLM (unless your whole family is as hyper-reactive as you are - which, I admit, is a possibility) - but I join her in not liking the ideas BLM espouses as solutions to the US policing problem... but that's not the point of our disagreement:

• I say that they are protesting a real problem, but proposing poor (over-reaching and over-reactive) options to address them. As a libertarian, I agree that policing in the US has evolved in a bad-for-America way. But I don't agree with the liberal approach to solve the problem - throw money at it (or, in this case, take money away from it)... I'm not a liberal - and accepting that there is a valid injustice that a liberal group is protesting doesn't make me a liberal!
• You say they are evil incarnate because they are liberal. And, because they are liberal, you don't believe they should even exist, much less protest anything! (Ironic that YOU are the one who sees everything as "black and white"!

I know, I know, you don't like conservative outlets since they don't spend every minute demonizing Trump and because they talk about "Honest" Joe, Camel Toe, Hunter, and the rest of the dirty liberals you worship so much.

I don't watch TV. I don't have cable, so I cannot watch Fox news, CNN, OAN, or any of the other "major" media outlets for news. I do subscribe to my local newspaper's online edition, as well as the WSJ. I also get news from the BBC and DW.com websites...

Being an expert in absolutely EVERYTHING, you sure don't seem to know much.

I've never claimed to be an expert about everything (actually, unless you're talking about cloud infrastructure, I don't claim to be an expert about anything)... but I usually don't "run my mouth" about things I don't know about - so I can see how the "illusion" of expert could be there - my "truth/fiction" or "right/wrong" ratio is pretty good - because if I don't know, I don't say anything! (NOTICE: I don't reply to all of your threads!)

I'll also say this: I don't often post a lot of "new" ideas on here - at least in the politics section... I'm too busy simply correcting the invalid, factually wrong, incendiary, over-raching posts you make - and that keeps me busy enough! (I'd guess that - maybe - 5% of my posting is my own, original topic)

You didn't know about Joy Reid's blatant lies and homophobia, while still being a media darling of liberal media.

You're right! I'm as clueless about knuckle-headed liberal media "experts" as I am about the Conservative ones... but it's mostly been the Trumpite ones (Tucker?) who have been making headlines themselves lately, and thus, those are the ones I know about... (In the old days, newscasters READ the news... these days, they ARE the news!)

You don't know about the Weather Underground, despite St Obama claiming he got his start in politics sitting on Bill Ayers' living room floor listening to their vision of America. A US President getting his political beliefs from anti-American terrorists.

You're right - I'm not a liberal, and so I didn't follow Obama as an infant until his ascention to the pre-Trumpian Throne of Ultimate Power... I didn't know anything about Obama before he became President, and while I watched the Democratic Convention where he gave the "speech that launched his career", I don't recall it... I watched all of the Conventions back then... maybe I had to use the bathroom.

IMHO, Obama was a liberal President who was too timid and afraid (likely because he was trying too hard to not be only the First Black American President) to enact virtually anything on the liberal agenda beyond the Obamacare legislation. Poor Dems - they held the White House for 8 years and got ONE thing out of it! If only Biden was as timid! (Did you see the $7T budget proposal? WTF! Is there a liberal pet-project he DOESN'T want to fund?)

You don't know about the Weather Underground, despite there being threads about the child raised by the founders of the Weather Underground (parents sent to prison for murder and armed robbery when he was 14 months old) Chesa Boudin who became the San Francisco DA in 2019. He ran on the platform of no bail and no jail. He dropped prosecutions of Jamaica Hampton for assaulting a cop by hitting him in the head with a wine bottle, so they could go after the cop for excessive force. There's plenty more if you care to look it up.

I don't care to look it up... I prefer to focus on defining where we are NOW, and where we can go FROM HERE! History is illustrative, but it also cannot be altered (NOTE to Trumpites: the Jan 6 insurrection was video recorded from literally thousands of sources... you can't re-write this one!).

Apparently, whining about the past is something Trumpites will never tire of... but I do! For example:

• Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and their ilk all had slaves - some even brought them to DC with them (as Presidents)... but, no one at the time seemed to care - it was legal, if amoral by today's standards - so what's the big deal? We changed the laws that were unjust. There are still more than need changing, but that's where we are TODAY, and we can do even better TOMORROW
• The South lost the US Civil War - which was very much fought over Slavery. Still, we didn't start erecting monuments to the Confederacy until the 1960's when the Civil Rights movements were taking hold. Revisionist history, as usual, fails in the end: the monuments to the treasonous confederacy are coming back down.
• The Republican Party is, indeed, the Party of Lincoln (a liberal, I might add)... but we're also the party of other heroes of the American past: Bob Dole, Teddy Roosevelt (another liberal), Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, Gerald Ford, Buzz Aldrin (Astronaut), John McCain, George HW Bush, and many others). Sadly, we are also the party of demons of the American past: Richard Nixon, Calvin Coolidge, Sarah Palin, Joe McCarthy, Dan Quayle, & Newt Gingrich to name a few I'd like to pretend weren't republicans.
  It remains to be seen how Trump will go down in History... after all, if Germany had won WW1, we'd all be speaking German and speculating about the next Kaiser! I don't think Trump will look good through the lens of history.... but that's just my opinion...
• The Democratic Party similarly has a list of heroes and villains ... I don't care to list them here, but you can look them up... just as many crooks and kooks as the Republicans (or Whigs, or Greens, or Libertarians!)

The point is, history is in the past and cannot be changed - it can only be learned from! The only thing that REALLY matters is where we go from here... and if you're looking backwards all the time, you're not aware of where you're going!

I know you hate Tucker because he isn't a liberal bitch. You also hate him because he does direct quotes that can be verified, such as Tweets, other social media posts, and video clips from various outlets, including CNN and the floors of both Houses.

I don't use words like hate about people (I hate brussels sprouts, but I do not hate Tucker Carlson)... but Tucker is often wrong, and he violates the very premise I mentioned above: he becomes the news vs. reporting it. That puts him in the company of Rachel Maddow - another "personality" more interested in BEING the news vs reporting it. I have no taste for either...

It's comical how you seem to know everything about QAnon, but nothing about the topics I bring up that makes liberals look bad.

Odd that you think it "funny" that I don't know much about liberals - when the only person who seems to think I'm a liberal is you!

QAnon is an existential threat to the (to MY) Republican Party... that's why I know about them. Democrats are not an existential threat to my party - they're just the opposition. There's always an opposition. They're (Democrats are) misguided and aspirational - but they're not evil. QAnon isn't trying to build anything, they're trying to tear it down! And what they're trying to tear down is US-style Democracy itself!

So, the next time you want to call me a Liberal, consider your own arguments against that fact... hmmmm

I bet you even believe that it's "white supremacy" that is causing blacks to attack asians or that crap from a few years ago where it was claimed by blac-tivists that blacks don't commit crimes, but rather it's whites in black face. After the arrest a few weeks ago, there are now 3 recorded cases of blacks in whiteface and 1 case of a white in blackface. Of course, you believe that it's only ever whites in blackface.

Wow - blacks committing crimes in "white-face"? Really? What criminal moron-mind would do that when a simple mask and long-sleeves does the trick? (You don't have to answer that - there are truly VERY FEW criminals who have "intelligence" going for them...)

Also, what criminal is disguising themselves "as part of the culture war - black vs. white"... really? The thought process is something akin to: I'm gonna do this crime and I'm going to pose as someone of the other race so that when I do this, it'll look bad for them?"

@andergarcia said in THIS or THAT: the game:

@bi4smooth

With my other hand (left hand, in my case)

Pop music or rock/indie music?

I jerk off with both (switching back and forth) - which I'm told is VERY odd for a non-ambidextrous person. That is, I can only write legibly with my right, only throw accurately with my right... yet, I beat off with both (not at the same time - I WISH my member was so large!)

I'm more into "old" POP

• Jazz of the 'teens, 20's, 30's
• Big Band of the 40's & 50's
• Rock of the 60's thru current (even Disco from the 70's!)

Question for those who live alone only:

When you use the bathroom (#2) - do you close the bathroom door?

Aside: I saw a commercial for a Bidet (that's a water spray that is installed on the toilet seat to more efficiently - and WAY more effectively - clean your bum when you #2) - it was CLASSIC "Marketing 101"
It started by "creating" a problem that doesn't really exist:

• toilet paper has been bleached (duh! Who would use brown toilet paper?)
• some toilet paper has chemicals (yup - people buy scented TP, as well as some have "lotion" in them ... those would be chemicals, but they're purely optional)
• some people have had reactions to the bleaching agents & chemicals (um, yeah - there are literally people who are allergic to water!)

The solution, of course, was to purchase - and have a plumber install - a bidet... for, get this: The incredible low price of JUST $500!!! (Check out your Home Depot - bidet's aren't THAT expensive, unless you fall for this marketing "trick"

@raphjd said in 5 Oregon Counties Vote to Secede Into Idaho:

@bi4smooth

As I understand it, Texas has special rights (as does Hawaii) due to their status as nations prior to joining.

But you're the expert in EVERYTHING.

I invite you to research the topic.

A State is a State, once admitted. There are no "special rights" granted to any State - including the possible additions of Puerto Rico, Guam, the USVI, or even DC ... once admitted, they are on 100% equal footing with TX, HI, and DE (DE being the FIRST State, TX a "middle" one, and HI the newest)...

Regardless, to change the borders:

• both States involved must approve (legislation signed by Governor)
• both Houses of Congress must approve (legislation signed by President)

Not impossible, but in today's political climate, very nearly so!

@raphjd said in 5 Oregon Counties Vote to Secede Into Idaho:

Actually, 7 counties have voted to leave Oregon.

2 counties did it at the same time as the Presidential election in 2020.

2 more counties will vote on whether to leave the state later this year.

Also, as this is not creating a new state, there are no constitutional issues.

There are plenty of constitutional issues... Congress would have to approve changing any of the borders, as would both State's Legislatures...

I'd call this grandstanding and nothing but show...

Kinda like the decennial calls for Texas to secede because they somehow have "special powers", different from any other State (they do not)...