@wald3mar

I wasn't aware you could have a forum account without a main site account...

I learn something new EVERY day!

@lololulu19 said in Liberal hysteria and 6 Jan 2020:

The reality of Jan 6th was that it was a trap orchestrated by Pelosi. She wanted to stir up that event and pin it on Trump.

The facts of the day were... about 200 protestors were WAVED IN to the Capitol Building by the guards. None of the protestors had weapons. In regards to deaths:
4 protestors were killed by the guards
1 guard died of natural causes (stroke) from all the excitement
2 guards committed suicide in the days after out of guilt for killing the 4 protestors.

The real crime that day was the theft of the 2020 election.

You are delusional. There is video - from multiple sources - on the Jan 6 insurrection.

Was it the worst act of political violence since 1776? No... but that doesn't mean it wasn't bad....

Have there been acts of violence perpetrated by liberals? sure... conservatives (like me) too... and now, even Trumpites can join the party - the party of nutjobs that shouldn't have any role in our Government...

• Liberals who commit acts of terrorism should be jailed
• Conservatives who commit acts of terrorism should be jailed
• Trumpites who commit acts of terrorism should be jailed

If you look closely enough, you might see a pattern there!

And if you could only find 1 shred of evidence - with enough factual support to be entered into a court of law - to support the election being "stolen" (by anything more than the fact that 76 million people voted against Trump, and only 74 million voted FOR him), then I'll pay attention... But... every lawyer representing the Trump campaign in every court case provided no proof whatsoever. EVEN Trump appointed judges - who likely would have loved to have supported his claims! - had to rule against them... EVERY TIME!

I think it's time you moved on... the 2020 Election is a done deal and continuing to complain about it is just getting silly.

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• 2020 Stanly Cup Champion Tampa Bay Lightening
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If only we had an NBA Franchise....

Of course, this is a gay board... there are, maybe 5 other sports fans here? LOL

@andergarcia said in THIS or THAT: the game:

@dvt

Sex on a train, it is more exciting, don't you think so?

Jerking off in front of the computer or laying on the bed?

ROFL - both! My computer screen in my bedroom is a 65" 4K TV

Do you jerk off with your primary hand, the other, or both?

Primary hand is your right hand if you're right-handed...

@jsl76 said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@jsl76 said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

You couldn't be MORE wrong:

• Parler was not de-listed on Android's "store" at all, but Apple DID de-list them - but not for politics... when they were de-platformed, they became in violation of Apple's agreements.

Why do you insist on telling people they're wrong when a simple Google search will prove that you are either lying or woefully ignorant? Parler WAS pulled from Google Play Store -- see https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html for the story.

OK, that must've come after Apple did it - and after they were de-platformed. I freely admit I haven't "stayed up" with the Parler story - and why would I? It's not something I find interesting:

• They were shut-off by AWS (Amazon Web Services) - so what? There are literally dozens of big-name competitors, and hundreds of smaller ones...
  What would you do if your cell carrier dropped your service? Complain? File a lawsuit? Or, walk over to another carrier and start service with them!

This has been a NON-Story from the beginning!

When we say "We live in a free society" that freedom cuts both ways!

• ISPs have disconnected users because of torrenting DMCA-protected files... complaints were made to the FCC, who supported the decision to "de-platform" users who the carrier didn't want to support they "way they used the service"
• Phone companies have disconnected users because of complaints of spam calling... complaints were made to the FCC... same result: they don't HAVE to keep you as a customer.

Personally, with the new law in Florida purporting to fine Twitter or FB if they kick out a political candidate... if I was Twitter (or FB), as soon as the first fine was levied, I'd cutoff the entire State! Bye Bye!

For someone who can't be bothered enough to perform even basic research, you sure seem invested in spewing many unnecessary lines of prose on the subject.

Again: what would motivate me to re-research (or, more correctly, update) my earlier research... This is a DUMB topic for the reasons given...

Parler is no-longer de-platformed - they found a new host. (I have no idea if they're back on Apple's or Google's phone-app stores - and I don't care).

You're like children whose ice cream was dropped - 6 months ago - and you still want to hash out why it happened! Be an adult: buy another cone!

@charlesp98 said in How many times do you jerk off in a week?:

at least 2-3 times a day, so at least 14 times a week?

It's a rare day I don't get off at least once. When my es-fiance was alive, it was a rare night I didn't get off at least twice! (He usually came only once - he wasn't multi-orgasmic)
We were both "insatiable"!

@jsl76 said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

You couldn't be MORE wrong:

• Parler was not de-listed on Android's "store" at all, but Apple DID de-list them - but not for politics... when they were de-platformed, they became in violation of Apple's agreements.

Why do you insist on telling people they're wrong when a simple Google search will prove that you are either lying or woefully ignorant? Parler WAS pulled from Google Play Store -- see https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html for the story.

OK, that must've come after Apple did it - and after they were de-platformed. I freely admit I haven't "stayed up" with the Parler story - and why would I? It's not something I find interesting:

• They were shut-off by AWS (Amazon Web Services) - so what? There are literally dozens of big-name competitors, and hundreds of smaller ones...
  What would you do if your cell carrier dropped your service? Complain? File a lawsuit? Or, walk over to another carrier and start service with them!

This has been a NON-Story from the beginning!

When we say "We live in a free society" that freedom cuts both ways!

• ISPs have disconnected users because of torrenting DMCA-protected files... complaints were made to the FCC, who supported the decision to "de-platform" users who the carrier didn't want to support they "way they used the service"
• Phone companies have disconnected users because of complaints of spam calling... complaints were made to the FCC... same result: they don't HAVE to keep you as a customer.

Personally, with the new law in Florida purporting to fine Twitter or FB if they kick out a political candidate... if I was Twitter (or FB), as soon as the first fine was levied, I'd cutoff the entire State! Bye Bye!

@raphjd said in Liberals - vaccine passports vs voter ID:

@bi4smooth

LOL, you voted for Biden and Harris because of your extreme TDS.

Like a typical liberal, you have to claim that I believe things that I don't because it allows you to demonize me.

You on the other hand keep making your points blatantly obvious. You claim that 6 Jan is the worst thing in the history of the US, but BLM is wonderful. Of course, people like you have to ignore your fellow liberals bombing the Senate building in 1983. You also ignore the terrorism by the Weather Underground. This is all because you people have to believe that Trump supporters are the worst of the worst, no matter what.

It's also strange how you seem to know all about QAnon and the crap they believe, but have no clue about crap that your fellow liberals say. You claim Tucker is full of shit, while he backs up what he says with proof, such as quotes directly from the liberals.

Who is re-writing history here?

• I say: BLM protesters have a point - policing in the US is out-of-control and often racist, but their tactics (which have included violent attacks against police & counter-protesters) leave much to be desired. Violence - for either side - is unacceptable.
• You hear: BLM is GOD himself. I believe they fart rainbows, piss high-test gasoline, and burp natural gas.

That makes having any real discussion pointless and like wrestling with a pig: you both get dirty, but the pig likes it!

For the record:

• I do not seek to demonize you - but I do think you inflate and inflame things, as well as I think you get your "source material" from biased, often uncredible sources, and that you are being misled by conspiracy theories for the benefit of the "Greatest President to have ever been voted out of office"
• I have not said that the Jan 6 attack on the US Capitol is the worst thing in humanity since the Holocaust - you continually put those words (or their equivalents) into my mouth, and I will not tire of spitting them out as the hyperbolic garbage that they are.
• I'm pretty sure that, until this post, I've never ever referenced the "Weather Underground" - I honestly don't know who they are.
• I don't think Trump supporters are "the worst" - indeed, I think many are honest, hardworking people - people who are being lied to and misled by others. My own conspiracy theory is that Q-Anon and most of the other conspiracy-mongering that is infecting and corrupting Republican politics right now are driven by the Russians and/or Chinese as a way to undermine our Democracy.... and it's working!

And finally, your claim that I can refute a conspiracy-theory-laden "report" from Tucker Carlson, but not know about other stupid things some Liberal has said is true - but circuitous and irrelevant!

If I find 6 errors in the latest Webster's Dictionary, does that also mean I'm supposed to be aware of the errors in their companion Thesaurus? No! And it also doesn't mean that there aren't other errors in their Dictionary either!

Finding a flaw in Tucker Carlson's logic is often as difficult as finding a child at a school! (Children are at school only during school hours, and Tucker is only using faulty logic while he's on-air! LOL)

Is Tucker Carlson always wrong? No... I seldom use exclusive adjectives (just like BLM, for me isn't always right or wrong: they get some parts right [US policing needs to change], they get some things wrong [burning cars and buildings accomplishes NOTHING and detracts from your messaging].) Tucker gets some things right (usually the date/time, and his name - and the names of the people before and after his show), and some things wrong (typically, most things he says about the validity of these conspiracy theories).

@realname said in Had an account for a while, new to the forum:

Hi guys. New to the forum. That's really about it I guess. Sorry for my lame introduction lol.

We do lame! Welcome to the forum!

Look around - most of us are friendly (just put on your fire-proof undies if you wander into the politics sections!)...

Post questions, post answers, partake in a few games (this or that?)... and generally amuse yourself while your porn downloads!

@raphjd said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth

You don't support anti-semitism, but you have no problem with "big tech" allowing it on their platforms. You're funny. I guess you also support banning jews from their platforms because you are a "capitalist".

Big Tech (Google, YouTube [I know Google owns YT], FB, and Twitter) are hard left. You don't understand that because, in your deluded mind, you think that anyone who has extreme TDS is a "conservative libertarian".

There is no evidence that Google makes adjustments to their search algorithms to support or suppress political viewpoints. The burden of proof is on those making the conspiracy-theory claims, not on the company... and there is no such proof.

Facebook and Twitter are largely controlled by their founders (Zuckerburg & Dorsey)... the companies aren't old enough to have responsible & reasonable boards for oversight... what's more, come 2028 or 2032, who's to say either will still be relevant? Remember Geocities? MySpace?

So what is your "remedy"? Eliminate all oversight? Eliminate their ability to cut people off of their platforms? They now have to allow pedophiles? Drug dealers? Pimps? Even if they're brazenly advertising their wares on their platform?

As the owner of a small business, it's never enough to identify a problem: you have to also propose a viable solution! Otherwise, you're just whining!

"The Internet" as a technology is still new, and we're still trying to figure it out... there is much left to come! The "next Twitter" is just around the corner... we just don't know what it'll be yet! (Maybe it'll be Parler!)

EDIT: I didn't address your contention that "free speech rights" are the moral equivalent to antisemitism. What a load of crap.

It is not (and should not be) illegal to post antisemitic things - so long as you're not endorsing or promoting violence against Jews. It's a free country - and even the most awful and hateful ideas are allowed.

But again, what is your remedy? Who chooses what is antisemitic? If I call BiBi Netanyahu an asshole, is that antisemitic?

Calling for (inciting) violence is something that can (and should) be removed... and that's how Dumpy and some his followers got into trouble.

@raphjd said in Liberals - vaccine passports vs voter ID:

@bi4smooth

You, as a liberal, support dead people voting.

Your BFF Mad Maxine has disputed every Repub Presidential election since she has been in Congress, even when it violates the rules because she doesn't have a Senate co-sponsor, to which she said on the House floor "I don't give a damned about the rules".

You have no issue with massive fraud in Broward County for at least 3 decades by your fellow Dems.

You have no issue with the massive fraud in Wayne County, which Steven Crowder did a video of and spells it out.

You have no issue with the voter fraud in Texas

You support any form of voter fraud because of your extreme TDS.

You don't care how dirty or dishonest Biden is, he's a Democrat and you love that in him.

See, you are a liberal. It's your people that had to change the name of the Spanish Flu to justify their hatred of the name "China Flu".

It's like how Scotland officially renamed the "Indian Variant" of C-19 to the "April Variant" so as not to upset the Indians, but have no problem with the "Kent Variant".

All of this stupidity by liberals si why we see anti-woke people calling them the Wu-Flu and Vinda-Flu.

I sneezed, and your out-of-control hyperbolic reaction is that I have the Swine Flu! Get a grip!

• I do not support dead people voting - but there is no EVIDENCE of wide-spread fraud. NONE! Not even in Arizona! If there was, they'd have found it by now!
• I didn't object to Republicans "challenging" the Electoral College vote on Jan 6... it's a legit part of the process! (However, THIS vote count was a little different, and I think the continued persistent challenging AFTER the breach of the Capitol was very bad optics for the party.)
• I live in Florida - we don't do elections very well (see the 2000 election for a Master Class in how to screw up an election!). But dude, this is Florida... home of "Florida Man"! There are "bad apples" in rural Florida that favor republicans, and there are "bad apples" in urban Florida that favor dems... over all, this is a very Purple state that Republicans consistently win in! In case you missed it: Trump won Florida! If there were 500 million extra votes for dems in Broward County in 2020, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the Presidential election by a single Electoral College vote!
• I don't know anything about voter fraud in Wayne County - but again - you're presuming that all of the fraud was solely in the Presidential balloting... and even if Trump should have won in PA, it wouldn't have been enough to change the outcome! Even if PA and AZ both were "stolen", it's STILL not enough votes to change the outcome! You're "pissing in a fan" dude... and you're getting covered in your own piss!
• I'm not aware of any wide-spread voter fraud in Texas... similar to Fla, Trump won there, so no one is demanding recounts there!
• If either of us is "deranged" about Trump, I would suggest it is you! You adopt and accept-as-truth virtually any conspiracy theory that supports your "vision" - regardless of actual facts. To be clear: it's not the responsibility of the people running the elections to PROVE there was no fraud (you usually cannot prove a negative)... rather, it is incumbent on those making the claim of fraud to PROVE that there actually WAS fraud - in sufficient levels as to potentially change the outcome. And, other than in the media - where lying and hyperbole are legal - there has been no evidence presented to-date. Specifically, in all of those court challenges, no evidence was ever even provided to the courts! The lawyers wouldn't do it because they knew they had no facts.
• I'm happy that the Conservative cause, and the Republican Party made gains - surprising gains - in 2020. I'm not sad Trump lost - but that's because I didn't like HIM, not because I abandoned conservative values!

EDIT: You apparently take issue with my reference in another post to the 1918 Flu pandemic - for not calling it the Spanish Flu. For the record, it's referred to in most Scientific papers as the 1918 Flu, and not "Spanish Flu" - mainly because it was called the "Spanish Flu" in those days for political (global-political and military) reasons, not because it originated there.

I call the 2020 pandemic the COVID-19 pandemic because that's what it's referred to as in Scientific journals - albeit, not in politicized ones. I personally don't thing medicine should be politicized.

@raphjd said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

@bi4smooth

Liberal "big tech" act in collusion against conservatives.

You support any liberal BS, no matter how insane.

You support businesses de-personing wrong thinkers, even when they have not broken the rules. You also support rampant anti-semitism on social media because it's from the liberal blue check marks.

You have defended BLM and their riots.

I don't know who you think you're talking about:

• I don't care if Twitter wants to have fewer subscribers by angering Trumpites - any more than I care if Parler wants to have fewer subscribers by kicking out liberals! It's their business, and they answer to their customers and stakeholders, not to me! (Capitalism anyone?)
• I don't believe that "all of big tech" is liberal (or conservative) - I think most o them just want to make more money
• I don't support businesses "de-personing wrong thinkers" (what does that even mean?) - see below...
• I do not support antisemitism in any form. I generally support Jewish people and Jewish causes... my children attended a Jewish pre-school, and my father was a cantor in a Jewish Synagogue when I was growing up! (Where the hell did you get the idea I'm antisemitic?)
• I have defended BLM's right to protest - I have never supported rioting, nor do I particularly support much of the BLM "platform" - but I do think that - in this free country - they have the right to protest, and I also think some of the things they protest against are legit. But it's not an "in for a penny, in for a pound" kind of thing! I can agree that US policing is out of control and largely racist - without agreeing that the solution is to do away with policing entirely (or any of the wacko-liberal ideas they espouse).

Finally, you have proven yourself to be pretty lousy at doing your own inventory - I would respectfully ask that you refrain from taking mine! You clearly have missed the mark this time!

@pengkuang said in Bookmarks missing and suddenly logging out while in forums:

@bi4smooth said in Bookmarks missing and suddenly logging out while in forums:

The issue self-resolves

Thanks to reply. How does it self-resolve?

On my PC, 10 times (spread over 10 days) I visit the forum, this issue appears 10 times and never auto resolves.

At least for me (and everyone else I've heard from), if you just wait about 20 seconds after you get the notice that the connection is lost, it restores itself.

@raphjd said in Liberals - vaccine passports vs voter ID:

@bi4smooth

"1918 Flu" ?! You clearly are a liberal.

I have to wear a mask under law, despite being fully vaccinated. Well, technically I don't as I'm exempt, but I don't want to be brutalized by cops breaking UK human rights laws.

Clearly, you are the furthest left "conservative/libertarian" there is.

Your extreme TDS allows you to ignore voter fraud because Trump lost. Your party has disputed every election where the elected President was a Repub, since 1980 and some before. Let's not forget, you defended people from your party claiming voter fraud because they lost while slagging off Trump for doing the same. It's your party that is trying to prevent recounts and audits.

NO. Liberal media has not been hard on Biden, other than to say he's not far enough left, but in the most limp wristed way.

There was a proper time for recounts and audits - and that time expired in December, 2020. There comes a time when you need to accept your losses.

But I'll repeat for the umpteenth time: Republicans didn't lose, TRUMP did!

• Republicans were supposed to lose ground in the House .... not so fast! We actually GAINED seats! Nearly enough to oust Pelosi! (We will in 2022)
• Republicans were supposed to lose the Senate - by up to SIX seats... not so fast! We actually wound up in a DRAW (and, I would argue only because Trump riled up the Dems in GA, helping them win BOTH seats!)
• Republicans were supposed to lose State Houses across the country... not so fast! We actually made GAINS in the State Legislatures!.... and before you poo-poo that, let me remind you that THESE Legislatures (in most states) draw the new Congressional districts!

LITERALLY

the only real race in 2020 that Republicans under-performed in was the Presidential one - and Trump worked very hard to ensure that that was about HIM and not the Party. Take away the Republicans who wouldn't vote for him, and he likely wins! Hell, take away all the Republicans who voted AGAINST Trump, and he may even have won the POPULAR vote!

Finally, if you look at the numbers, while COVID-19 pandemic will have killed more people than the 1918 Flu pandemic did, the numbers are remarkably close (for now)... and the World population is a LOT higher now... so as a percentage of population, it won't have been AS DEVASTATING. (Not that it hasn't been a terrible event, just not as awful as the 1918 Flu pandemic!)

I think its time you faced facts:

You backed a loser!

@jsl76 said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

Actually, no. When Parler took off a few months ago, it was de-listed from both Apple and Google's app stores, and Google AWS banned Parler from using its back-end infrastructure. "Build your own platform" only works when the Leftists in charge of the AdTech ecosystem allow it. It's ridiculous and intellectually dishonest, given the Parler situation, to claim that private companies ought to compete when they're not allowed to access the infrastructure to compete in the first place.

You couldn't be MORE wrong:

• Parler was not de-listed on Android's "store" at all, but Apple DID de-list them - but not for politics... when they were de-platformed, they became in violation of Apple's agreements.
• Not being in the Android "store" (unlike Apple) doesn't stop people from using or installing the app... Android is an "open" platform (unlike Apple). Put the installer on your homepage, and users can install it on Android phones - it's just not as EASY as-if it was on the store. (But to repeat - it was never removed from the Android store - only Apple's)
• Parler was de-platformed by AWS - which stands for Amazon Web Services... it should be obvious that they're not affiliated with Google . Indeed, they are fierce competitors in the "cloud" marketplace! (Your mistake was equivalent to calling Chevy a Ford product vs. a GM one).
• Parler was de-platformed by Amazon also because they were in violation of their terms of service. Amazon warned Parler of their impending status, gave them chances to "cure" the problems, and eventually even warned them of their impending loss of service...
• Instead of migrating to another Cloud Provider (like Microsoft Azure, Google, IBM, Oracle, or at least 2-dozen other LARGE corporations - not to mention literally hundreds of smaller competitors!), Parler chose to "play the victim", and pursue an idiotic "sue for specific performance" strategy in the courts. (Look it up - suing for "specific performance" is one of the hardest cases to make in US courts.... they might have gotten damages had they won, but they'd NEVER have been able to FORCE AWS to host them!)
• After Parler found no relief in the Courts, they eventually did exactly that: migrating their platform to a mid-sized provider called SkySilk. (Where they are today!)

And, to be clear, I do not support "liberal" platforms... I do support private companies having the right to refuse service to people and organizations that are not "protected" by special laws. This is the flip-side of "freedom" - you have the freedom to choose any provider, and providers have the freedom NOT to service you if they don't want to!

BUT!....

If you want to get mad at Amazon, strap your boots on! They just over-paid for MGM - and there is some speculation that the reason they overpaid by so much (more than 150% of the estimated value of the company by some accounts) was to ensure that they got their hands on the "The Apprentice" library - which includes all of the unused video, where according to many former contestants and "guest stars" of the show, there is ample footage of Trump being a complete racist, white-supremacist ass.

I don't know if such footage exists, or even if it does, whether it would politically damage Trump... but I do know that Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos paid all that money for the videos AND is now planning to step down as CEO in July... which will free him up to do pretty much anything he wants - he's one of the richest men in the world! And Trump pretty much pissed him off more than once, so we just may be looking at a 'clash of the titans" being setup!

@raphjd said in Twitter does NOT suspend liberals spewing hatred:

Twitter is filled with anti-semetic tweets and the accounts are still active.

Even blue checkmark accounts are doing and not a peep from Twitter.

Twitter is a private company.

But, you have options:

• Choose another platform, or
• Start your own competing platform (clearly you think there is a market for it!), or
• build-a-bridge and get over it!

Of course, I know the course you will choose... the 4th option

• do nothing, just whine about it!

There are known issues with the forum site. It is believed that the issue is with the load-balancer service (CloudFlare).

The issue self-resolves, so it is not a high-priority item to the admins.

@lololulu19 said in Summer time asphalt temps:

@raphjd While the IDEA of that sign is very helpful, it is not that accurate. For instance.. it is not air temperature that is the issue, but whether or not the SUN is beating down on the asphalt (or concrete). For instance.. let's say it is 90 degrees F out.. That is certainly hot, but not deadly. If you stand on asphalt that is in the SHADE of a tree or otherwise not being blasted by the sun, it is not that hot.. but if it is being exposed to the sun, it will fry your bacon! Air temperature is not the critical factor. Also, if you stand on the grass - even if the grass is exposed to direct sunlight, it doesn't get that hot. And.. if something is wet.. you know it is not over 212 F.. because if it was, that water would evaporate. The temperature would not rise above 212 F until all the water was gone. Likewise, if you see fresh water in a lake.. you know that the water is at least 32 F. It cannot be colder than 32 F until the water is frozen to ice.

This is the problem when people know a little science...

• It is certainly true that air temperature alone does not determine the temp of asphalt: BUT
• if you want to get technical, it also depends heavily on the kind and color of the surface,
• it also depends heavily on the angle of incidence of the sun: the sun hitting the asphalt at noon is very different from the same sun, at the same temperature, at 6pm. Similarly, tropical climes (where the sun is higher in the sky) will see hotter temps than those at more northern (or, in the Southern Hemisphere, southern) latitudes... and for the same reason: angle of incidence.

BUT: if you don't get lost in the numbers,

the CONCEPT is valid and the WARNING is poignant!

But, your other science facts are also off base:

• water CAN be at temps above 100-C (212-F)... WELL ABOVE! Super-heated water is common, so long as it is stagnant (as it might well be - say, in a puddle on asphalt!) Read more here
• water can also be cooled to well under 0-C (32-F), and again, in stagnant water this is quite common. Ask anyone who lives in a far-Northern climate: a still pond can be well under the freezing point ... throw a rock into such a pond and it will turn solid in a matter of seconds! (It's REALLY cool to watch!)

I've said from the beginning that, for every study you find in support of circumcision, you can find another against it... in both cases, the logic is usually a stretch.

I stand by my argument:

• circumcision does little-to-no harm
• circumcision has few, if any, real benefits
• arguments both for and against are "weak"...

I consider it equivalent to getting a tattoo... very few people have adverse reactions to getting a tattoo, it is seldom of any real benefit to the "wearer", but the decision to get one is essentially permanent.

The biggest difference is that most circumcisions are done to babies - the child has no say... would we allow parents to cover their child in tattoos? (Actually, it would be perfectly legal! Same as circumcision!)

Finally, you completely missed the point about the circumcision-rates:

• higher rates in N Africa and the Middle East are due almost entirely to religious reasons, not economic ones. But these countries are NOT leaders in medical fields, so IF there was a solid medical basis for circumcising infant males, this isn't the part of the world we would expect to see "movement" in the circumcision rates
• lower rates (that is, rates getting lower) in N America and Europe - where medical science is a "strong suit" would be expected to be on the rise -- IF there was a solid medical basis...

@raphjd said in Liberals - vaccine passports vs voter ID:

@bi4smooth

Just so we are clear, I wear a mask and have been fully vaccinated.

We are in agreement there - I have been vaccinated (Pfizer) since March (I was vaccinated under a US Federal program, so the age restrictions didn't apply to me)... and I still mask up when going in public.

• It's still a protection - just like wearing a seatbelt even when I'm driving on private roads with no other cars!
• It sets a good example to others
• It's no big deal! As I've often related: underwear is more uncomfortable to me than a mask!

Not surprisingly, now that people like the CDC are saying that we don't need masks in "nearly all" situations if we have been fully vaccinated, we are told by our masters that the formerly beloved agencies can't be trusted.

That may be true where YOU live, but HERE, in the nut-job capital of the world (home of the infamous: Florida Man!), we're "standing down" rather reasonably... some businesses are still requiring masks, some are making them optional for customers - but keeping their staff masked, others are dropping the whole thing and going full "bare naked faces" all over again.
And, to be clear: as long as the case numbers keep dropping, I'm cool with that... That's freedom, baby!

But, to be equally clear: if the numbers reverse and start to go up, I'm all for mandating masks again! I've never been a proponent of the lockdowns - I think that's overkill and tantamount to the cure being worse than the disease...

IF WE PLAY OUR CARDS RIGHT, we could be getting out of this pandemic with world-wide deaths roughly equivalent to the 1918 Flu (albeit, we have a much higher population).

If you support businesses having the right to demand ID and mask mandates, I guess you support RFRA. If so, then you should demand that businesses be allowed to discriminate against anyone for any reason. RFRA only allows discrimination against LGBTs.

Clearly you did not read the part of my post where I LITERALLY guessed your ridiculous response, and pre-debunked it! Thanks for your careful reading!

So, go back... and re-read this:

And PLEASE! Lets not equate "wearing a mask" with being gay, black, asian, or some other minority! You can "cure" the mask issue in 10 seconds, you cannot "cure" those other faults (if you want to call them that)...

As for Voter ID, it's not hard to get a state ID. The claim that it's racist toward blacks is BS because they live in areas where there are far more DMVs than in the country where whites tend to live.

You are completely drunk on right-wing media tropes, aren't you! Geeze! Requiring Gov't ID be presented at the time of voting, requiring absentee ballots be notarized, preventing early voting on Sundays... they are targeted towards MINORITIES (not Blacks in particular) - because their exit polling states that these are the ways that majority-minority populations vote!

Look, let's suppose we looked at how everyone voted - and then realized that Democrats voted in higher percentages in precincts where the voting place was in a Church... so, we outlaw Churches from being polling places! (Don't want to mix church and state, you know!) That doesn't mean Democrats can't vote in other places! But it's wrong to put in new rules like that solely because people who voted against you chose to vote that way!

Look - The solution to losing elections is simple: get MORE people to vote FOR your candidates! It should NOT be get fewer people to vote for your opponent! THAT'S a fraudulent approach!

I know your liberal media won't show any voter fraud unless it's pro-Trump. Only a buffoon would think otherwise.

If the "Florida Man" super-auditors (looking for bamboo in the paper! ROFL) still haven't found anything, it's just not there! The next thing is they're going to find evidence of alien technology altering ballots! The martians were against Trump!

Look, the Liberal Media is absolutely talking shit about the Biden Administration. I don't need to go into details here, but the media in general ALWAYS finds fault with the people IN POWER, and less so the people NOT IN POWER. After all, you hunt where the beasts are, no?

You might want to look at Steven Crowder on YouTube. He's done some videos on voter fraud.

Again, read more carefully. I haven't claimed there was no fraud at all... I have claimed that there was no significant voter fraud.

The truth is, we get better and better at rooting out fraud in our elections, and with few exceptions, the amount of fraud attempted in each election gets lower and lower. And 2020 was no different! Republicans made strange and wonderful gains in the House (it was supposed to be a gain for Dems, remember?), and nearly kept the Senate (it was supposed to swing to the Dems by as many as 6 seats, remember?)

Long story short, we won a LOT of races we weren't supposed to - and Trump still lost!

Maybe it wasn't a Republican messaging problem, but rather a personal thing... after all, if there was one thing Trump was famous for - before, during, and after his term - it's making it all about himself!

Maybe, just maybe, enough Republicans down-ballot decided the Great Divider was just too much, and decided to vote AGAINST him, but FOR the party!

There goes Occam's Razor again....