@raphjd said in Liberals - vaccine passports vs voter ID:
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Just so we are clear, I wear a mask and have been fully vaccinated.
We are in agreement there - I have been vaccinated (Pfizer) since March (I was vaccinated under a US Federal program, so the age restrictions didn't apply to me)... and I still mask up when going in public.
- It's still a protection - just like wearing a seatbelt even when I'm driving on private roads with no other cars!
- It sets a good example to others
- It's no big deal! As I've often related: underwear is more uncomfortable to me than a mask!
Not surprisingly, now that people like the CDC are saying that we don't need masks in "nearly all" situations if we have been fully vaccinated, we are told by our masters that the formerly beloved agencies can't be trusted.
That may be true where YOU live, but HERE, in the nut-job capital of the world (home of the infamous: Florida Man!), we're "standing down" rather reasonably... some businesses are still requiring masks, some are making them optional for customers - but keeping their staff masked, others are dropping the whole thing and going full "bare naked faces" all over again.
And, to be clear: as long as the case numbers keep dropping, I'm cool with that... That's freedom, baby!
But, to be equally clear: if the numbers reverse and start to go up, I'm all for mandating masks again! I've never been a proponent of the lockdowns - I think that's overkill and tantamount to the cure being worse than the disease...
IF WE PLAY OUR CARDS RIGHT, we could be getting out of this pandemic with world-wide deaths roughly equivalent to the 1918 Flu (albeit, we have a much higher population).
If you support businesses having the right to demand ID and mask mandates, I guess you support RFRA. If so, then you should demand that businesses be allowed to discriminate against anyone for any reason. RFRA only allows discrimination against LGBTs.
Clearly you did not read the part of my post where I LITERALLY guessed your ridiculous response, and pre-debunked it! Thanks for your careful reading!
So, go back... and re-read this:
And PLEASE! Lets not equate "wearing a mask" with being gay, black, asian, or some other minority! You can "cure" the mask issue in 10 seconds, you cannot "cure" those other faults (if you want to call them that)...
As for Voter ID, it's not hard to get a state ID. The claim that it's racist toward blacks is BS because they live in areas where there are far more DMVs than in the country where whites tend to live.
You are completely drunk on right-wing media tropes, aren't you! Geeze! Requiring Gov't ID be presented at the time of voting, requiring absentee ballots be notarized, preventing early voting on Sundays... they are targeted towards MINORITIES (not Blacks in particular) - because their exit polling states that these are the ways that majority-minority populations vote!
Look, let's suppose we looked at how everyone voted - and then realized that Democrats voted in higher percentages in precincts where the voting place was in a Church... so, we outlaw Churches from being polling places! (Don't want to mix church and state, you know!) That doesn't mean Democrats can't vote in other places! But it's wrong to put in new rules like that solely because people who voted against you chose to vote that way!
Look - The solution to losing elections is simple: get MORE people to vote FOR your candidates! It should NOT be get fewer people to vote for your opponent! THAT'S a fraudulent approach!
I know your liberal media won't show any voter fraud unless it's pro-Trump. Only a buffoon would think otherwise.
If the "Florida Man" super-auditors (looking for bamboo in the paper! ROFL) still haven't found anything, it's just not there! The next thing is they're going to find evidence of alien technology altering ballots! The martians were against Trump!
Look, the Liberal Media is absolutely talking shit about the Biden Administration. I don't need to go into details here, but the media in general ALWAYS finds fault with the people IN POWER, and less so the people NOT IN POWER. After all, you hunt where the beasts are, no?
You might want to look at Steven Crowder on YouTube. He's done some videos on voter fraud.
Again, read more carefully. I haven't claimed there was no fraud at all... I have claimed that there was no significant voter fraud.
The truth is, we get better and better at rooting out fraud in our elections, and with few exceptions, the amount of fraud attempted in each election gets lower and lower. And 2020 was no different! Republicans made strange and wonderful gains in the House (it was supposed to be a gain for Dems, remember?), and nearly kept the Senate (it was supposed to swing to the Dems by as many as 6 seats, remember?)
Long story short, we won a LOT of races we weren't supposed to - and Trump still lost!
Maybe it wasn't a Republican messaging problem, but rather a personal thing... after all, if there was one thing Trump was famous for - before, during, and after his term - it's making it all about himself!
Maybe, just maybe, enough Republicans down-ballot decided the Great Divider was just too much, and decided to vote AGAINST him, but FOR the party!
There goes Occam's Razor again....