@raphjd said in Marc Bernier - Conservative talk-show host - dies of Covid-19:
As for Trump and C-19, let's not forget that Democrats fought him tooth and nail at every turn on every topic. Nothing Trump did was ever the right thing, even when he did what the nasty ass Democrats wanted him to do. Anyone who says that's not true is either a fucking liar or an absolute idiot or both.
OK, so let's look at this like reasonable people: Dems fought against Trump on a lot of areas, but they never claimed that Dr. Birx or Dr. Fauci were making shit up, and they never claimed that Trump's vaccines would hurt people. THAT was QAnon and wack jobs on our own Right Wing.
I've said it before: Trump had no "moves" or decisions that were going to "salvage" his Presidency or his re-election. I DO think he saw this fact in early 2020 and refused to believe that inevitability and chose to use the virus to more sharply divide people in the hopes that he could rile up his base and maybe be re-elected.
His decision doomed thousands - mostly of his own followers - because he chose to "fight Science" vs. "fight Democrats"...
And for all the vitriol directed at Trump while he was in power, it is now being directed at Biden - because HE is in power. Check out THIS from CNN (a liberal-leaning source) - its a piece focused on all of the failures of Biden's administration. (I'm sure it had to be edited for length - there have been SO MANY failures!)
It's OK that you don't see these - you've shown that your News sources are all hard-right-leaning, and while they're also saying the same things, they also have to continue to claim that they're the ONLY GOOD source for your news because that's how they make money.
I look at news sources from multiple viewpoints - including FOX and CNN. Unsurprisingly, those outlets NEVER claim the other is right, or that they agree in any news reporting! Instead, they highlight the gaffs each other make... which both do, because both want - DESPERATELY - to be the first to report things... I trust NEITHER source implicitly! Both have been right from time to time, and both have always had a SPIN on their reporting to support their "editorial viewpoints". That's just what news is today.
Pelosi did the "y'all come to Chinatown so we can party with Chinamen and thank them for C-19, cuz Trump is a racist".
Ridiculous - not worth a reply.
Biden promised that if he was elected he would cure C-19 within a few months. Of course, he would not share that plan with the country unless he was elected. Here we are nearly 8 months into his Presidency and C-19 is still here and nothing has gotten better. I mention 8 months because it was 8 months into C-19 that Biden said all this shit.
Biden made ridiculous statements about COVID-19, and so did Trump. COVID-19 should not be being looked at as a POLITICAL problem. It is a PUBLIC HEALTH one, and we should be following the Science, while still respecting people's individual rights - within limits. If you're going to lambast Biden for ridiculous COVID-19 claims, why not include things like Trump's suggestion that injecting disinfectants might be a good idea?
Sadly, the one area where POLITICS is actually LEGITIMATELY having a COVID-19 component is in vaccine and mask denials among Republicans... and it's costing us THOUSANDS of voters. Not because they're becoming Dems - no, they're becoming DEAD! Because of our own party's vaccine denial and mask refusal, we're the ones filling the ICUs around the country. We're the ones dying.
Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and countless other Democrats said they would not take the vaccine if Trump had anything to do with it.
Here you go again, regurgitating ultra-right-wing propaganda that's been disproven already.
Here's the full quote, with the part you've been told about in bold:
"If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it." - Kamala Harris, Oct 7, 2020.
This is what happens when you trust your sources and those sources have an agenda (note: they ALL have an agenda!)
Now, that most certainly IS an example of Dems trying to politicize COVID-19 - and that's a bad thing! (We can agree on the core belief - just not your messaging) It's wrong now, and it was wrong then. But to be clear, she IS saying to follow the Science and not the Politician.... but in a way that is clearly political, and it was a bad choice of messaging.
But, she/they can be wrong without being evil! She/They can make a mistake without being accused of undermining all that is good and right in this world!
They criticized Trump over the vaccine at every turn, but then took credit for it when Biden took office.
I think you're conflating things here... they derided Trump's response to the vaccine once he turned against the science. In the beginning, Trump leaned on the Scientists (Drs Birx and Fauci)... then they started saying they were wrong about certain things - and Trump doesn't tolerate being WRONG! So, he started turning to ... I don't know what to call them ... WACKOS, who are the ones who pointed him to things like hydroxychloroquine and other "alternatives"...
That said, people were DESPERATE for answers, and the science was being slow...
But that's the part of Trump's response that Dems (and many Republicans, too) argued with him about - the part that turned "anti-science" and started turning medical professionals into global terrorists on a James Bond level. (The vaccines have microchips in them. The vaccines cause your skin to become magnetizes. The vaccines kill more people than the virus. The list goes on and on...)
But we're losing focus here: this post isn't about Trump bashing or a Trump defense...
I know, because I started this thread!
BOTH SIDES have politicized COVID-19 - I'll give you that... but its US (the Republicans) who have taken to getting ourselves DEAD over it!
And THAT was the point of this original post... Marc Bernier was one of those "science is evil," "vaccines are hurting people" mouths... and it literally killed him. And he's not alone in Republican circles...
WE ARE the ones who are dying...
and we're doing it to ourselves!