Posts made by twinkerzzz

Equality is about a principle with exists beyond our own selves and into the future of others to come.
It is about establishing the law which allows all people the right to the same freedom within the context of a civil society. That legal framework  also allows individuals the right to discriminate in private, as long as it causes no injury to another. (The right to hold a point of view.)

Equality for gay people is not a matter of reward for good behaviour. Our oppression is not a punishment and our freedoms are not a present to be greatful for. They are hard fought long standing democratic gains in a deeply complex world, and the ideals of that freedom-fight stand above the everyday wrangles of daily life.

Gay people may well have to confront their own feelings & emotions of anger,rejection, denial and the such like. It will not be uncommon for some people to be phobic of one group when trying to organise the details of their own lives.

Life is complicated, sometimes women resent men, men resent each other, black resents  white, gay resent trannie, lesbian resent bisexual -  its part of how we get through things.

However you are right to identify & challenge hatred where ever you think it is being expressed. It is a contradiction - understanding why someone hates and then being generous in the way you intervene and help that person out of their anger and hatred.
You can't silcence hate, but you can negotiate with it and reason it down to something of integrity for both parties.

It's quite a skill because it forces you to confront your own fears, and phobias. There is no point putting someone down for something ,you in reality, have felt and given expression to yourself at some point in your life.

"Gay" is a word , a very simple sign in a language of human communication.
It's used in a particular way by different people - it is all it denotes and this is the key.
Because it is just a sign, a word, three letters put down, it can't ever hope to embody what it is used to refer to in the whole of the human world. In itself it means nothing, but the way it is used to order the world, it's relationship to the world, what it refers to other than itself as a word, all of this is what it stands for.

To this extent, the term 'gay' is thought , by some, to be an historical term. It denotes a period of human sexual history from the early 20th Century to the early 21st Century. It marks a passage of social and political emanciaption for humans and specifically for males who emotionally and sexually partner with other males.

It is expected, like all langauge, the term will continue to evolve and only by the mark of years, decades, centuries of existance will finally come to deliniate something very exact.

It is the evolution of langauge that will have the last say on how we understand what it is that causes humans love each other. "I the beginning was the word.." never was a true statement spoken…
New words may come about to reflect new ideas - currently you refer to words like - 'genetic' - 'gay' - 'cultural' - but these really reflect the limit of our understanding today , rather than any truth about how are or may see ourselves in the future.

In many ways today's  words are under-evolved - they tend to indicate that the way we think is conflicted - we set in opposition terms like 'genetic' against terms like 'cultural' but really both words are apart of the same broader human Culture.This oppostion is often rooted in contemporary power struggles - where the politics in genetics and culture is appropriated by different factions to try and control ideas and people. In the future it might be interesting to imagine humans have found everyday ways to reason which don't set ideas against each other, people against people.

@thomas261989:

Are Derek and I the only who care about politics here?

No - but i think the truth about Politics is so complex , many people have difficulty formulating ideas about their feelings or their knowledge about it…..

I think politics is a necessary evil -
I think politics is corrupt - power is corrupting and you can never get away from that.
I think politics is a cultural contradicition - On the one hand it is the hand that wields so much horror and misery but on the other it is the vehicle by which humans gain their worldly hopes and freedoms and by which human history progressess through time.

I think it's healthy for an individual to work out a personal relationship to ethics, but i acknowledge that people are loyal to abstract and spiritual positions often via  deep and irrational impulses rather than well thought through logical notions. This is why i love an ethically thoughtful man - i see it as the sign of a real 'man' - how he handles ethics. I also think the mysterious,deep and illogical exists in life - and not all things can be broken down to ethical and politically framed ideas.

I think all moral choices are best considered via one of politcal ethics. I think that approach shows an awareness and consideration of other people at it's  best and also an awareness of the implication of human behaviour and events and that to me is the mark of wisdom.

well you are talking about one specific film and i couldnt work out if it was a film about  recreational sex or some odd fly on the wall sadist film you were watching.
The latter i don't care for - i don't see brutality or murder as recreational , sexy, legal or anything, but recreational S&M i understand and it's not so difficult to comprehend.

S&M is about experiencing the power dynamic that lies behind all human relations.
It's an enounter with that power and an exploration of it.
It's a kind of fetishising of all the different possibilities of control and submission.
It may be away of controling in a non destructive way very real feelings of self humiliation or sadism towards others.
It can be intensly erotic, pleasurable, recreational.

Pain and the exploration of pain is aprt of that language. I am not in to physical pain in anyway, neither to give it or recieve it. But i understand mental pain and the power of langauge to manifest complex relations between individuals.

Alot of the exploration of power in what ever form is a kind of exploration of 'knowledge' - knowledge of the self, of others, of life. Pain fits in with that registrar , that language also. There is a whole spirtuality and recreationality of pain i just do not get, i dont particually like even having my nipples bitten ! But i understand it is a way into something for alot of people. It does something, it's raw, electric, sensational, pure, some kind of communion…..

Wheni was in my late 20s i started having incredibly strong erotic fantasys about being humiliated. I found it quite scary - it was new to me - i felt guilty but also a deep sense of fullfillment in the ideas. I tended to defuse those fantasys by writing them out so they werent so intoxicating or morally conflicting for me.

My humiliation fantasys centred upon 'enactment' of humiliation - handing over total control of myself to another - being helpless as a kind of erotic nirvana - a sex slave locked up in an old house - ordered around , made to behave like an animal on all 4s - that kind of thing...

It didnt involve physical pain but also i wanted it to be real somehow, not in the confines of a typical S&M club which always seemed to me a bit too theatrical and over themed.

I twice met 2 guys when cruising who were on that wave length and allowed me to explore the reality of that. What i remember was the reality was exhausting and a bit farsical but also wild and true to the spirit.
I met a son of a vicar who had been left in charge of his parents vicarage and he was totally outrgeous. He got me calling him pig and riding him like an animal & barebacking all over the vicarage having sex - he would have been a great sex-buddy - because the only thing we had in common was the ability to fullfill each other's sexual fantasy - but not much else....however i figured outside of the sex he most probably was a little too complex so i declined.

I had a long erotically charged mentally orientated S&M relationship with a bisexual guy - which was incredible - but toally mind fucking - he was into making the power thing real  - pushing the extent to which something no longer becomes a game , playing with that boundry and is actually happening - it was so exciting to me as a young man....

Finally both sex and violence are closely related to sensation, spirituality, knowledge & pleasure - it's a fine line - the subtle interplay between taboo and integrity - between horror and ecstacy - one thinks of these catagories as somehow seperate and polar opposites but in reality they are very very close and often one and the same thing.

gosh your post brought back memories

that age - 17-18 - coming out but it being tricky with school
being ready to have a first affair but being held back by social codes of young people
and not really being able to read the world - so you are still free to let yourself go and fall in love with the wrong kind of guy….

totally get it - but i would say get oyurself to a gay social space and try and fall for someone who you know is gay - it's the most healthiest thing you can do for yourself - have your first experiences of gay intamcy with people who are brave enough to say i am gay.
If you go down the 'is he or isnt he route' - you'll just do your head in and you may do the other guys head in too. Straight men are affectionate beings - they appreciate male friendship too - but it can be a shock for them to realize you want a sexual encounter - In years to come he may very well explore his inner self . You're ready within yourself - he maybe on another planet in himself compared to you.

The other thing is i have a gay friend who is outrageous and he came out young and he did manage to seduce some of the straight boys in his town. Now that tells me there is a special gift, a tallent , an innate ability to cross that line, handle the other person and come away unscathed, and if you don't have that skill, best not to go there, cos it can be messy for those of use who arn't able to appeal to all men in that way.

seems a bit small to me…..

I would say the average size is 7-8inches erect - infact about 8 inches.

The other thing to factor in is that the male body continues to alter during manhood.
My dick became more defined and manly in my 30s and 40s.
In my 20s when i was a hot and horny slag my dick was hard alot and it was also the tallest i ever measured it - about  8.3/4 inches when erect during my most permissive days.
I've seen erect cocks of all shapes and sizes and thats the truth out there - some men have absurdly huge cocks - so impractical, others have absurdly small cocks - somewhat tragic - but most have cocks that do the job and thats what counts when it comes to sex......

well the gagaing gets me - i never did work out how to take a big cock down to deep throat for very long …..

well it's true, but it's getting less so.

IN the begining it was:
a form of creative identity
a form of uniform - a signal - a deliniation

Then it moved to:
a form of catagorising sexual recreation

Now days i dont think gays are so hung up on these clone looks.
If you look at population in general - people do tend to ware the same kind of clothes when they hang out together - but it's not so much about cloning now days - just the sameness that comes with the way we shop and what we are conditioned to wear.

Personally i never did enjoy that uniform - clone thing - but whatever we wear - it is always some kind of code which says i am this sort of person - so it's hard to escape it. Better just to be content with one's own choices, with the odd diversification every now and then…....

gay for pay does exist…
the world is a crazy diverse place - people live incredible lives and things stop making sense when you look at the reality of the detail of human life...

gay porn is SO artificial - Cinema itself is very artificial - once you understand what an illusion it is - it's not so hard to see why gay-for-pay types seek money from such an industry...

I agree - we're not saying they 'hate it' - they are the sort of bloke who just loves sex and thinks of a hole as a hole or any body as any body when they're overtaken by horny feelings. They have a healthy very open approach to having sex but they dont seek an identity through it - i call it a sexysexual as opposed to heterosxual, homosexual or bisexual, - they just love and appreciate sex and they like the idea they can earn money in a glamourous way through sex.

But outside of their working lives these men's primary relationship is with a woman and their aspirations is to build a family home with that woman - and this is the factor that defines gay-for-pay in gay porn.

@russbill:

Only been on this site for a few weeks now, stumbled across it while GTN was down…

I have to say this is the best site out of the 3 gay torrent sites that I know of. Good mixture of movies,
good speeds to.

Having said that - where are you guys from. I live in sub tropical Queensland which is in the north eastern
part of Australia, great weather, sun & sand. (Guys aren't bad either)   8-)

RB

London UK - but i also grow up part of my life in ancient city of Oxford , about 50 miles away.

@seeker1223:

can you tell me what you think of them? i mean ive been kinda reading some of the articles about this and they say that some white guys (old and ugly) like them but the hot ones dont and the asians go for whites , supposedly they're so desperate that theyd go out with the first type(old and ugly) so its just funny to me i just wanna know what you guys think and what your communities are like thank you

well i find this post really basic to say the least…....
Yes race can come into the importance of the 'type' of man which we seek and represents the ideal man for each of us - but you put it so crassly & it is a little off the mark in my book.

Firstly you are talking about literally millions and millions of males (Asians)
Then you are talking region:
There are Indian subcontinent Asians who are known as Asians , India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka...
There are Far East Asians, Korea, Phillipines, Vietnam, Cambodia, and all the others
Then there are Chinese Asians ....
Then there are East Asians and Asians who live in other parts of the world, Britain has many Indian subcontinent Asians, America has many Far East Asians.....for example...

So be careful about making generalised statements. Many Asians of all backgrounds love & have sex with Asians.
Where Asians are a minority population, the issue of multiculturalism may occur Nationally ie. the 'rice-queen' phenomena in America. Mixed race people - 'Asian+other' will also be present in multicultural societies and the issue of sexualising race may become more diverse and open to much more opportunity to explore different cultures and attitudes to life.

So with that said, maybe the next time you visit a multicultural centre with a healthy gay scene - try and go to a number of bars, shops, parks where gay people express themselves openly and observe how in reality, each person has a partner because they genuinly like each other beyond the idea of race, and that many people of many different races fall in love for many different reasons and in many different ways.