ill check those out
i did already sign up to adam4adam but found it a bit disappointing - don't know why - just seemed like a cheaper version of gaydar.
I'm not very experienced in this internet chat business but i think i would prefer sites which are essentially chat focused rather than profile trawling which i find really boring.
cam4 looks like those amateur porn vid sites - im not sure i want that eitherā¦..tho i like watching them !