Posts made by rawr

@raphjd:

Ok, let's not have forums at all then.

If we don't talk about this stuff, then lots of people will claim (as we've seen) that this stuff doesn't actually exist except in the minds of the alt-right complaining about it on the internet.

Private site, not my decision.

I realize there's a lot of BS in the media about the alt right, I'm not saying I agree on either side, because I don't agree with either side. But, complaining about people exercising their 1st amendment rights is the same thing as liberals complaining about conservatives who exercise their second amendment rights.

It's the same thing.

You are allowed to say whatever you want to, but there are no protections granted from other people exercising their first amendment rights.

@raphjd:

I also notice that I always get a thumbs down when I point out the extreme hypocrisy of the left.

Here's an idea: Try the "Role Reversal Test" and see how that works out.

If a law was passed making hand guns illegal, would you be complaining if conservatives were protesting?

You're complaining about liberals… This thread is overflowing with hypocrisy...

Edit: Again, I'm not a liberal, how can you not understand that what you are saying is bullshit? Milo is a cheerleader, so the liberals don't like your cheerleader, okay... Who cares? Did you think they would?

So the far right, who was looking for attention, got what they wanted and then the far left noticed. Wow, big surprise. I get it, people want to be heard, the problem is that, the real problems that are actually solvable are being lost in the noise cloud of bullshit while our political parties become even more polarized, putting common sense in the back seat.

@wohdin:

is this an ironic shitpost? or are you just THAT ignorant?

Many people consider Donald's political alignment to be more socialist than conservative. I realize that's not what they were getting at.

Trumponomics will just destroy the value of the US dollar while the Fed prints money at astronomical rates to pay for the tax cuts and promised infrastructure projects.

"Lets see how much we can explode the nation debt in four years" said no legitimate conservative ever…

The likely-hood of that spending plan getting through a Republican congress is basically zero.

Edit: There's also the "reverse robin hood" plan which I'm fairly confident the majority of Americans will really love. "It's like socialism."

@alibix:

I dn't even know where anarchism falls on the political spectrum.

Technically the left but they're usually against any form of government at all.

@raphjd:

BUT, it was liberals that said that if Trump lost, the alt right would riot and do all manner of violence.  And here you guys are doing exactly what you said about your opponents.

I noticed that you guys love to cover your faces too.  Be proud in what you do.

I've also been seeing liberals justifying the violence by their side.

The DNC is on the verge of being nothing but white haters.

Who is "You guys?" I'm not a liberal as I already stated that in the thread and I'm not out there protesting. I'm not defending them and I'm not going to defend Milo either. The protestors were out of line and Milo could have spoke, rescheduled, whatever.

@raphjd:

Umm, they were smashing up the building Milo was in and setting it on fire to prevent him from speaking.

I guess the girl who got pepper sprayed while speaking to the media wasn't prevented from speaking either, she just chose to stop doing the interview because of a minor thing.

I guess the 2 "nazis" could have left and the fact that they got beated down and were repeated beaten, 1 while unconscious on the ground.

Talk about liberal apologetics.

I personally think Milo should go home and worry about his own country, we have enough hypocrisy here. He's not going to because the only thing he cares about is his next book deal… So we have an immigrant teaching people about white privilege... This is absolutely nothing more than a person saying "Look at me I'm gay and I say crazy shit." No change will ever come of this, other than a group of people sticking their necks out and having the majority paint target signs on them.

Also, what world do you live in where anybody who has something to say that you don't like automatically becomes a liberal? From my perspective, you sound like you're part of the problem. There's different groups of people that for the most part, want the same thing, and they have different ideas about how to achieve that. If you want to lash out at "liberals" on a site that is most likely, primarily liberals, I mean that's your choice right? It does absolutely nothing, but you're going to do it anyways...

Trump had a bunch of ideas that seemed like decent ideas to me, but he's hasn't made any progress on any of those ideas yet. I think it would be a great idea for him to do things like : Fixing real problems that don't involve pissing off the majority of the United States.

3.5 Million people have Hep C and the medication to save their lives costs $85,000 to purchase and $100 to produce. It would be cheaper to just buy the company and hand the medication out at cost, which isn't going to happen, and people are going to die.

Methamphetamine and Heroin addiction rates are the highest in US history, building a wall isn't going to stop anything. They manufacture climbing ropes in Mexico...

Just under 1% of the US population is in Prison. That's really working out great…

The deficit should ideally go down and real conservatives usually push hard to, you know, reduce spending… Not Trump though, every single plan I've heard the guy mention involves ballooning the debt... It sounds really weird coming from a "Republican."

It doesn't sound like the ACA is going away but I think there's some changes that would be really beneficial and the Republicans don't sound like they have a plan.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg of problems that under Trump's presidency can be solved or at the very least, progress towards solutions can occur. Yet he's focusing on problems that are effective solutions to preventing attacks from the Boogeyman, in a country where more veterans commit suicide every week than die from Muslim terrorists annually. But, hey, at least mentally ill veterans can buy guns now…

I'm certainly not against who want to band together and make borderline racist comments to draw attention to themselves, you're allowed, it's America. I am certainly against terrible ideas and getting nothing accomplished. Milo making a speech doesn't do anything for America and bitching about the violet protestors on a forum doesn't either.

I don't care if you're alt-right/neo-nazi/federalist/republican/conservative/libertarian/moderate/democrat/liberal/pirate/socialist/green/communist/space-alien-party whatever… Call your reps up and bitch that there are real problems in America and Donald isn't fixing shit, that you're pissed, the things he's doing are not helping anybody, and it's ridiculous.

@Eridanos:

Then I ask you: If you can't speak your mind because you fear physical retaliation, isn't that too an affront to free speech?  So, that's how liberals operate: intimidation in order to prevent free speech from happening in the first place, and hence they are not spitting against free speech…how rich...I bet they feel like some juridic geniouses.

Did anybody attack him? No. Nobody stopped him from speaking. He chose not to. The army of police outside the building would have kept the protestors out.

He canceled the speech to make an issue about how the protestors were "infringing on his rights to free speech" and made national news because the majority of Americans wants to see him get punched in the face. So a guy from the UK is here to tell Americans what to think? Trump's campaign did this with Nigel Farage as well and it made just about as much little sense. This isn't their country, I have no idea why anybody is listening to them.

Also, I'm not a liberal…

@Eridanos:

Muslims aren't an idea, they are a reality.  The fear is rational, though not all Muslims are terrorists, that doesn't mean some who actually are won't get mixed with the asylum seekers and enter.  More severe screening processes are required.  But liberals tend to backlash so intensely, that now they want to allow everyone to enter.

And some of their values are incompatible with western culture.  You may let them enter the USA, they get a nice house and a decent work…still they will consider homosexuals an affront to their religion and act accordingly: shunning you or beating you. Pick your poison.

Yeah… Uh... Religious groups in the country right now have historically done the same thing. Your point isn't valid. Catholics are far more dangerous then Muslims, or did you miss that history lesson? You either understand what's going on or you drank the cool-aid and believe the Bullshit. Sounds like that latter, since I already explained that's a lie and you're just repeating it like a parrot. You didn't come up with that on your own. When was the last time you remember a Muslim shunning and beating up a homosexual in the US?

I'm not for allowing everybody into the country or against vetting immigrants, but the election is over, it's time people to come back to reality. If you don't want Muslims in the country, admit it, and stop pretending that you are going to somehow be safer. That's a lie.

@Eridanos:

Problem is, the so called liberals just stomped over that free speech Americans say to love so much.

Milos Yiannopulos may be a troll, but he has the right to speak and be listened by those who are interested in what he has to say.  The Berkeley students practically stopped him from even uttering a word, they prevented him from speaking.

All I see is that Universities in the USA are not a place to engage into discussion or pit ideas against each other, since the students have such a thin skin that they won't even allow expressions of thought that clash with theirs. The so called 'Safe Spaces' at their best.

Where is the growth if you don't face different ideas?  How this little crybabies snowflakes survive in the real world?

That's not how that works. He could have spoke. He pulled out because he was scared of "liberals" physically attacking him. They didn't prevent him from speaking. I think that's hilarious. I'm sure liberals think it's was a win and I know the alt right people feel that it was proof that liberals want to deny people their rights even thought that isn't what happened. He tries to stir up anger and he got what he wanted.

I do think the "safespaces thing" is ridiculous myself. You have to understand, that's the corporate answer to problems they can't solve. It's a business to them, they're just supplying the demand. I'm sure they think it's ridiculous too.

As far as not facing different ideas: Look the Bannon camp is terrified of large groups of Muslims making the US their home. There's plenty of evidence in Europe that this is unpopular or at the very least, disliked. I understand their concerns and realize that the majority of Americans would not want to wake up in a country that expanded it's population by 100 million because 100 million Muslims decided to immigrate. That fear isn't rational and pretending they're all terrorists isn't going to work either. They've also tried to spread lies like "Their values are incompatible with western culture." I didn't realize that not wanting to live in a bad country, wanting a decent job, and wanting to own a home was "incompatible" with their religion.

@raphjd:

The problem is, the left refuse to do anything other than get violent.   They don't want a dialogue.  They only want to silence those who disagree with them.

Come on man, play fair. I don't see Nancy Pelosi pulling out her boxing gloves. I get that you don't agree but that statement isn't true. The majority of the protests were completely peaceful and lawful. I don't agree with the violent protests that have been occurring, that's wrong, but suggesting that all liberals refuse to do anything other than get violent is far from stretching the truth.

Milo Yiannopoulos is a troll. He has said it many times. He's not necessarily saying what he says because he believes it, he says it because he knows it riles people up. Personally, when I watch the guy, I just laugh at him. Some of things that come out his mouth are so ridiculous that I can't take him seriously. A migrant homosexual who dates African American men is a major voice in the Alt Right?

Wow, get trolled harder…

@royalcrown89:

Most likely they're going to push for discrimination, it's just with his approval numbers averaging at around 32% right now, they didn't want any more marches and protests to get started. It's not the right time for them to push for LGBT discrimination, but they will because they'll need the base by the 2018 midterm.

What makes you think the administration cares about their approval ratings?

More on the order is here:

A copy of the executive order draft is included.

I hope nobody is surprised Spicer lied.

This is extremely broad and would cover a large range of issues. I'm reading it now and I have no idea on the legality of an order like this.

https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/

@raphjd:

Oddly, on the same site they are saying that the White House has officially said that there is no anti-LGBT executive order on the cards.

That's not what was said in the WH statement. Donald supports FADA, WH made a statement this morning stating that Obama's executive order effecting federal contractors will remain.

Obama's orders are not Trump's orders, FADA was not created by Trump. These are all separate issues.

Spicer is quoted as responding; “There’s a lot of executive orders, a lot of things the president has talked about and will continue to fulfill, but we have nothing on that front now.” but it's hard to tell exactly what was asked without a transcript.

Video is here but it's an hour long.

Youtube Video

Edit: 49 minutes in, Spicer was asked about the rumored religious freedom executive order and responded with the cited statement on http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/white-house-says-anti-lgbtq-executive-order-not-plan-time/ .

I can not find the source for the quotation : "The President is proud to have been the first ever GOP nominee to mention the LGBTQ community in his nomination acceptance speech, pledging then to protect the community from violence and oppression."

But it's widely distributed, by reputable media outlets.

To me, this translates to (if I believed anything the current administration says, which I don't) Trump won't use executive orders to impose "legalized religious discrimination", but supports signing a bill passed by congress.

We will see who Trump picks for the Supreme Court today. William Pryor Jr. was dropped from the list yesterday.

@royalcrown89:

Hopefully, this is just a rumor. If not, if #45 and Pence decide to attack our community with discriminatory legislation then I simply will not understand how any of you would support that. I keep seeing people saying, "I support him for his economic policies." What policies are you talking about? He himself isn't releasing any details about anything because he's too hung up on his low approval ratings by multiple sources, including conservative polling sources. Instead of ignoring the boos and putting his vision for the country out there, he's too busy on Twitter attacking people. Who does that? How can you say you support him for his economic policies when there aren't any in place or currently being drafted? #45 came in with bad numbers and its going to get worse, so why not move on and put your vision forward anyway? He should be scheduling his joint session of Congress for February, not acting like a child on Twitter.

To be clear, it's not a rumor that it's being discussed. It's a rumor that Donald is going to issue an executive order on the matter. Trump supports FADA (First Amendment Defense Act.)

I completely agree. Donald did speak about a few things that I wouldn't mind seeing implemented, but it's become apparent that the American people were lied to. So far the only things Donald has done are either somewhat self serving or are arguably bigoted actions, other than appointing highly controversial staff.

@Eridanos:

Then, why the eff you posted it?!

I'm all about sharing news with others, but you must cherry pick them.  Find well funded ones.

Buzzfeed…pft... Journalism is decaying heavily nowadays...

I have the ability to separate fact from fiction, the story was well circulated on several small, yet reputable media outlets, and is consistent with multiple sources. Granted, maybe a bit strongly worded since it was published by an LGBTQ website on the issue of Donald stripping equal rights away from LGBTQ people, who fought hard for decades to be treated equally. If Donald does go through with the executive order, it is sure to do wonders for his already stellar approval rating.

Out of respect for people's intelligence, I let people know that at this stage, the story has not been verified through official channels and there's always the possibility that somebody talks some sense into Donald.

I'm assuming your are referring to Buzzfeed publishing the dossier. It's really weird, that an ex-KGB officer who is believed to be one of the sources, was possibly murdered. That happened around the same time 3 other intelligence officers were arrested. Again, I can't connect the dots there conclusively, but the timing is really odd and I'm not really sure how you just randomly die of a heart attack in the back of your car. "Oh no, I'm having chest pains… Let me get in the back of my car and die..." Seems a little strange, but I can't say 100% for certain and it doesn't necessarily add any credibility to the dossier.

Google it if you like.

@tinci01:

Ok, would someone please tell me in words that 5 year old could understand, what did Hillary actually do regardless those e-mails? I don't watch much tv, so I just know she sent some mails through personal mail, but that's all I know. And I really don't like reading all those big words. My mind starts spinning. Please someone bring me up to speed.

In 5 words: "Absolutely Nothing Illegal, Republican Propaganda."

Like all of the Republican attacks against her, in the end, they had nothing.

This could be a rumor and is unsubstantiated as far as I know.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sources-report-trump-executive-order-lgbtq-community-coming-soon/

@tightass2020:

@rawr:

Holy crap… Some of you guys are seriously brainwashed by the media.

#7 The Republican party is not against gay people. They completely moved off of the marriage equality issue prior to last election cycle. There are GLB Republicans and much of the recent political turmoil has revolved around transgender people and I feel bad for them. Honestly I don't think politicians know how to respond to that issue.

Perhaps you should actually read the Republican Party Platform from their own web site before you make such ill-informed statements. Check out section 6 titled "Great American Families, Education, Healthcare, and Criminal Justice" and you'll find they explicitly want to redefine legal marriage to "one man one woman" excluding ALL same sex marriages.

Before you try to tell us these bigots are not bad guys, take a few minutes and read their own words.

Thanks for playing ill-informed statements game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obergefell_v._Hodges

It's your constitution right now, they're not going to touch it. It doesn't matter what their platform says. 60% of their supporters are against it and that's why it says it. Even if they replaced Scalia with an anti marriage equality supreme court justice, that doesn't matter, since he dissented. Be concerned if one the majority judges dies and get replaced with an anti equality judge.

Unless you think Trump is going to start assassinating them or something insane …

Holy crap… Some of you guys are seriously brainwashed by the media.

#1 I don't support Trump, I didn't vote for him, and I don't think he should be president.

#2 Trump can't just snap his fingers and do much, okay? He needs approval of the senate and the house, to pass a bill, which he would propose. Those people are professional politicians and they aren't going to vote for anything that is going to hurt their chances at re-election. They're not just going to rubber stamp a bill that forces sexual reassignment surgery upon LGTBQ people because Trump said so, okay?

#3 Trump played the media, he lied, said insane things, and behaved outrageously in order to be continuously in the news. I remember going to MSNBC one time and thinking "wow they've turned the news into a giant Trump tabloid… It's all Trump..." The only people Trump bullied around were the media and it worked, they couldn't stop running stories about him, and they completely muted Hillary Clinton out of the news while they did it. The media blasted "Trump says election rigged" for a month and people got the idea that it was him conceding the election or he knew he wasn't going to win, no it was him winning the election. The message itself was an attempt to suppress the vote of Hillary supporters and it ran every day on the news.

#4 Trump isn't stupid, I know maybe people believe otherwise, and the media tried very hard to get you to believe he's stupid, but he isn't. He's not just going to do random things to piss people off. I highly doubt he even wants the nuclear codes.

#5 He won, give the guy a chance… The people who should be pissed off the most, are actually Republicans, not Hillary supporters. You know why? Because he lied to all of them, not to the Hillary supporters. Repeal Obamacare, drain the swamp, build a wall… Come on now... People believed this crap? These are rallying cries, not policies. Look what he's doing, he's building a team of Washington insiders, which would have been pretty much the same people if any other of the Republican candidates won and he already flip flopped on some of the key issues.

#6 The only thing Donald Trump wants to be more than popular and powerful, is liked. He wants people to like him, hes a massive narcissist, you should all know that. His plan was to simultaneously build a base of rabid supporters while making people believe "there's just no way he will win" and people didn't take the election seriously. (Sound familiar to anybody? Like Brexit? Same political play.) He wants nothing more than to be remembered for "Making America Great Again" like another Reagan. So he's going to tap the best people (he already is) to try to come up policy making that will or could do that.

#7 The Republican party is not against gay people. They completely moved off of the marriage equality issue prior to last election cycle. There are GLB Republicans and much of the recent political turmoil has revolved around transgender people and I feel bad for them. Honestly I don't think politicians know how to respond to that issue.

#8 About the only thing Donald Trump is going to personally do is go play golf. Stop taking the bait on his crazy ideas. Top politicians on the democratic side weren't fooled by his antics and you shouldn't be either. What was Obama's message? Focus, stop paying attention to his supporters and go vote, people couldn't and didn't, that's why Hillary lost. Trump and the rest of Republican party should seriously be concerned about getting their popularity up before the next election cycle, because that trick will not work twice.

Edit: How does Trump quell the hate he stirred up in America? I have no idea and it might be his downfall.

@sutieday:

I hope you don't think Saudi Arabia money takin' Hillary is gonna care about gay rights ::)

That is not factually accurate. The Clinton Foundation received the donations, along with donations from almost every other country in the world.

Hillary Clinton does not pay herself a salary, so she "took" 0 dollars of money from Saudi Arabia.

Your statement is like saying Apple is against gay rights because people in Saudi Arabia can buy their phones.

That article is hysterical.

Trump is trustworthy? To do what? Tell Mike Pence he's running the country the day he gets elected and then go golfing?

Trump lied basically non stop, people figured out he was consistently lying, the media exposed drama in his personal life, and now he can't lie his way out of it. He did this to himself.

Unless some insane bombshell about Hillary comes out, this election is over.

That would be the ultimate irony, Trump's campaign exploded into a fireball while he yells about the corrupt media, yet it would be the same media who would propagate the message to the voters about Hillary's potential fault. So basically, at this point in time, he can not win without the media, who I'm sure would be somewhat hesitant to do anything to help the guy after he insulted basically everybody but Sean Hannity.

The reality here is; Trump had a massive uphill battle from day one and other than the rumors about Hillary's health, he's consistently lost ground. -Trump lost the election the day he was nominated.

He's losing very badly in every poll excluding the LA times panel, which isn't really a poll, and Rasmussen; a conservative leaning poll where the founder of the company left since last election cycle and it's reliability is now completely unknown.

@goodtimechaz:

Please, I'd do it for $500 free and clear

That's probably more then amateur models get.

Million dollars? Are you kidding? At that age range I doubt you completely understand how difficult it is to obtain that kind of money, if you wouldn't do it, then you're an idiot…

@althomme:

any opinions about atkins?

The "new" version of the Atkins diet is extremely similar to the zone diet. I would just refer to that, high protein diets are fine, there's many athletes and bodybuilders who rely on them.

It was discovered the original version of the Atkins diet was "unhealthy" over long durations of time, so the protein and fat goals were pushed down and carbs were scaled up.

I think some people misunderstood why the Atkins diet works so they took it to extremes and were completely avoiding carbs (this is an extremely bad idea, you need carbs.)

Note: High protein diets are generally not associated with good heart health, which was the point of the original post. The reason for this is likely to be over consumption of certain fats and cholesterol, which is avoidable by varying protein sources, which is generally a good idea on any diet. So if the calculator tells you that you need 185g of protein a day, it's not a great idea to get that all from steak, bacon, and eggs.