Posts made by pppucci

@mhorndisk:

Mika’s father was architect and co-founder of the Trilateral Commission.

“The Trilateral Commission is international and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States” - Barry Goldwater

So of course Mika has been saying all these things, because she’s for a global banking dictatorship, which Trump is against, as he has been calling for nationalism, not globalism, borders to secure our sovereignty, and everything that comes out of her whore mouth IS purely nefarious and diabolical. This is why we voted for Trump, these are the kinds of people that we are fighting against. You simply do not understand what is going on or who you are supporting, or how the world really works, unless you are part of the problem, or just too much of a coward to do the right thing. WE are prevailing against global dictatorship run by bankers and YOU are promoting it. You are committing suicide, homicide, and genocide through your willful and deliberate ignorance. It is a very sad and pathetic thing to watch.

If Trump had said any of the things you just said, it would be OK.  But instead he tweeted about her bleeding face and how he thrawted her invitations. That is not a political or ideological argument.  It is just crass.

@raphjd:

As long as CNN keeps Sourpuss on, the whole network is scum.

It would be like Fox hiring David Duke and making him a major focus of the network.

The last time I brought David Duke into a discussion you criticized me for hyperbole.  There is no comparison between the two.  Now I have some fact-checking to do.
UPDATE:  Done with my fact checking about Don Lemon shutting down a black commentator.  You can watch it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7sTXXi_by4
Also see my comments about it in the Fake News thread.

@raphjd:

Chris Cuomo and his female co-host admitted (in 2014) that the media was doing everything they possibly could to ensure Hillary would win in 2016.

I can't let you get away with this again.  Once you get an idea in your head, it takes a buldozer to dislodge it.  Here is the transcript of your infamous Chris Cuomo quote:
Hillary was starting a tour promoting her book "Hard Choices"  Many thought she was just getting her face out there to prepare to run for the NOMINATION. Cuomo was stating that she got a lot of free publicity for a potential campaign, so she better well start one.  Here is the transcript:
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PAMELA BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: As you probably know right now, it's finally out, that, of course, Hillary Clinton's latest book "Hard Choices." For many folks in New York, it didn't seem to be a tough decision to get in line for a chance to get a fresh copy and have it signed by the author herself. Of course, the very fact that Hillary Clinton is the author will no doubt push book sales. But the media is playing a big part in both her book promotion and her potential campaign.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's exciting.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN CO-HOST, NEW DAY: We'll see.

We couldn't help her any more than we have.

BALDWIN: I know.

CUOMO: She's got a free ride so far from the media. We're the biggest ones promoting her campaign, so it better happen.

The "we" he was referring to was the media in general, not CNN.  And he said nothing about her winning in 2016 or even securing the nomination.  He was just saying she got a lot of free publicity for a potential bid for the nomination.

No argument from me.  I find it especially strange that they paid him off to preserve their status as a sanctuary city.

@raphjd:

I used to love CNN and almost exclusively for general news and the local independent channel for local news.

Social media is extremely biased toward the far left.    Facebook created that algorithm to bury conservative news.  They ban conservative accounts, while allowing ISIS, black supremacists, etc, etc, etc.

The experiment of FUCK BLACK PEOPLE vs FUCK WHITE PEOPLE showed an absolute and clear bias in favor of those who say hate filled shit against whites.  Jack Dempsey (creator of Twitter) constantly justifies this bullshit bias, as does Zuckerberg.

Black supremacists, who have called for the killing of whites and cops, have never gotten a community strike on YouTube, but disagreeing with feminism, BLM and pretty much any leftist agenda will end up with your account banned.

I spend very little time on social media and all of that time is spent with friends, not seeking political opinion or news, so I won't argue your points there.  My post is about mainstream media and the facile dismissal of all of its content as fake.  To claim bias is one thing, but to dispute facts is quite another.

You mentioned this in another thread, about Don Lemon shutting down a black commentator because{according to you} he didn't agree with his liberal agenda}
Actually, the were discussing the high cost to protect the president and his family and Paris Denard called it fake news.  After an accurate definition of fake news by Lemon, Denard started off his comments again by calling it fake news.  Nothing was fake in the reporting of the costs to protect the president.  Denard's point was that president hadn't done anything wrong or broken any laws so that made it fake news. Exacerbated, lemon ended the show a few minutes early.

you can watch the segment here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7sTXXi_by4

@Frederick:

The core of CNN's problems could be eliminated just by eliminating Don Lemon.   Anderson Cooper manages to be liberal without being antagonistic.

Then tune him out, but don't condemn the whole network as fake news.

Whether the hotel was paid for the event or not, This is just ethically wrong.  His business either benefited from his own campaign, or his business made an in-kind contribution to his campaign.  Plus I also think he is using the Office of The President to generate free publicity for his properties by visiting them whenever he gets the chance. He is spending this weekend at his country club in New Jersey.

@raphjd:

CNN routinely has Symone Sanders on.   She's clearly on contract.    She doesn't think blacks can do any wrong and if they do, blame the crackers.

Don "sourpuss" Lemon also claimed that the Chicago kidnapping was NOT a hate crime.

CNN is shit.   20 years ago they had global respect, now they are little more than the DNC's "news" outlet.

And they also have Paris Denard, Jason Miller, Jeffry Lord, Jay Sakalow,  The like to have extreme liberals and extreme conservatives because a discussion among moderates would be boring.
You either have selective hearing, or are basing your impression of the network on YouTube clips that only show one side.  I think you will admit that when it comes to reporting pure news–which they often carry live and unedited--they are unbiased.  The talk-show hosts like Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper are clearly liberals, but they always have commentators across the political spectrum.  Whether they are under contract or not, the commentator's opinions are not necessarily those of the network.

Frederick and any one else who wants to answer–- And I'd like you to think about the question and answer honestly.  Before Trump started his campaign, what did you think of CNN, NBC, NYT and WaPo. You may have disagreed with their editorial opinions or even the mix of stories that they chose to cover, but did you think that they spoke and wrote the truth, correcting themselves when they got things wrong?

Trump took the term fake news and bastardized it.  Fake news originally referred to false stories, usually propagated on the internet made to look like they came from legitimate news sources.  Major news sites has their sites spoofed to enhance the decption.  "fake news" never meant negative or even hostile reporting, as long as the facts were accurate.

In my experience, the main-stream media gets its facts right, and when they don't they issue a retraction.  When major willful falsehoods are printed, the reporters loose their jobs. Exactly this happened with CNN last week. m Mike Wallace was fired when he violated ethical standard.

Our President has encouraged us all to dismiss news we don't like as Fake News---rather than forcing us to examine facts and engage in critical thinking.  It seems he doesn't want us to form our own opinions from available facts.  That is a dangerous thing.  And scarier still, it is partially working.  Even Frederick stated in another thread that criticizing a presidential candidate was OK, but criticizing a sitting president was sedition.  From George Washington to Barack Obama, I don't think any of those presidents' supporters felt that way.

Please engage in some self-examination and ponder how Trump has affected your thinking.  I promise to so the same, and to take the time to try to understand other opinions and dismiss them out of hand.  But any intelligent discussion has to be based on fact, and we have to come to an agreement as to the source of those facts.

Happy Independence Day!

@raphjd:

"It ain't no hate crime" was said about the Chicago kidnapping, after the kidnappers admitted it was a hate crime.

Again, spoken by Symone Sanders on January 5, 2017.  She seems particularly obsessed with differentiating politically driven hate crimes from racially  motivated hate crimes and only considers the latter legitimately labelled as such.  In this case, however, the attackers were equally shouting "Fuck Trump" as "Fuck you white boy.  But again, she is a political commentator..  CNN is actually pretty good at having a spectrum of political commentators.
I suspect you think CNN is liberal -leaning (and I agree) but not fake news.  But the egregious "offenses" you cite do not support that argument.

@raphjd:

"Ahh, poor poor white people" refers to the 9 blacks you beat and stole that white guy's car.

My has debunked this one too.  First, the quote  dates to November 16,2016, following an interview of Trump when he told Trump supporters who were beating up minorities to "cut it out."  The person who spoke your famous words was Symone Sanders, a black political commentator who was press secretary for Bernie.

I got the transcripts.  There was a lot of crosstalk, and I thinks she was reponding to something Carl said that was not transcribed.

CARL HIGBIE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I heard about the last 30 seconds of it. I will say, look, Donald Trump but I would say where was Obama when people were smashing neighborhoods after all the riots? He didn't necessarily take a firm stance on getting people to stop.

I think what happens now is, look, people should not riot and cause violence on either side of the aisle regarding the issue. I think it's stupid for people to come out and say racist things and whatever power for Trump. But they shouldn't do it on either side. I think there should be a real serious ratcheting down of the law, and say stop doing violence upon other people and neighborhoods.

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: Hate crimes – I'm sorry, Kate. Hate crimes and protesting are not the same things. We cannot normalize this.

Carl, a hate crime is a crime that is committed against somebody because of their religion, because of what they look like, because of their sexual orientation. That's not the same thing as protesting.

BOLDUAN: You're not -- I don't think Carl is disputing that.

SANDERS: Well, he should make it very clear because what I heard is both, people on both sides should cut it all out. A hate crime is not the same thing as protesting. We have to be very deliberate about that.

BOLDUAN: What do you say to the people who dragged a poor white guy out of a car and beat him --

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: Oh, my goodness. Poor white people. Please. Stop. Stop it, Carl. What I say to people that protest is first of all, apparently, there's -- (CROSSTALK)

HIGBIE: That's not protesting. Dragging somebody out of their car and beating them -

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: Pardon me. There's never been a successful form of protest.

What I'm saying is I'm calling for people to be peaceful. I think protesting is a right. It is what this country was founded on. We got this country via protest but it's never OK to use violence. We can't keep calling for people to be peaceful --

(CROSSTALK)

HIBEE: You and I agree on that. "

As you can see they both agreed that peaceful protest was OK. I think her poor white people remark was to compare a single incident on whites compared to the multiple hate crimes committed against blacks.  I don't agree.  However SHE IS JUST A COMMENTATOR.  While she is employed by the network, her views are her own and don't represent the management.  Are we to hold Fox news responsible for all the  comments made on that network.?
Raphjd--you need to let this one go too.

You can watch the full clip here:

Youtube Video

@raphjd:

Ive already debunked your last quote which was from June of 2014.  What are the specifics of the first two?  The quotes are too general to google.

You did?   I'm sure it's from Chris Cuomo from the Nov election when Hillary lost.

"Ahh, poor poor white people" refers to the 9 blacks you beat and stole that white guy's car.

"It ain't no hate crime" was said about the Chicago kidnapping, after the kidnappers admitted it was a hate crime.

As for Chris Cuomo, go ahead and google it yourself.  I couldn't find anything from November of 2016.  The 2014 quote was used out of context in a Trump fundraising email, which made it so notorious.  There are actually archived transcripts of all CNN shows on their website, so google should find them.  I'm going to fact check the other two.

@Frederick:

@pppucci:

Presidents are subject to ridiculously false attacks all the time.  Think Obama as the founder if ISIS. That doesn't justify a public counterattack.  And even if it does, Trump stooped even lower than they did.  Either way, it is beneath the dignity of the President to get directly involved in such squabbles–that's what surrogates are for.  Even Nixon used Agnew to attack the press most of the time.

As for the 25th amendment, even if Trump dressed up as Bette Midler ans sang the theme from Beaches, they would never use it.  The vice-president and a majority of the cabinet have to certify that the President is incapacitated.  Mike Pence's head is so far up Trump's ass that he can't tell whether it's night or day.

There is not enough time in my day to put out every fire you start Pppussi.    If ISIS did not exist before the regime of Obama began, and Iraq and Afghanistan were under control of friendly forces.. who do you blame for ISIS?  Trump?  He was still hosting a TV show at the time.  Of course it's Obama's fault.  It didn't help that Obama fed the muslims hundreds of billion$ in a sneaky way to fund them.  Nor did it help that Obama flagrantly used very annoying, intrusive drones to attack wedding parties and make the entire muslim world hate the USA.    It was also cute how under Obama.. the Iranians were delivered one of our most sophisticated drones without a scratch.  Obama gave Pakistan our top secret stealth helicopter technology that nobody knew existed until the absurd attack on Obama Joe Biden's compound in Pakistan.

I's like to know what you are smoking, because I want some.  Even if I accept your arguments regarding Obama's policies and the origin of ISIS, Trump was asked specifically at the time if he was speaking metaphorically and he insisted that he was speaking literally–that Obama himself founded ISIS. I could you other examples, like Obama plagiarized his book, that he was not born in Hawaii, that Michele Obama was an ape.  Are you going to argue that every attack on a former president was truthful until the ascendancy of Trump?

Presidents are subject to ridiculously false attacks all the time.  Think Obama as the founder if ISIS. That doesn't justify a public counterattack.  And even if it does, Trump stooped even lower than they did.  Either way, it is beneath the dignity of the President to get directly involved in such squabbles–that's what surrogates are for.  Even Nixon used Agnew to attack the press most of the time.

As for the 25th amendment, even if Trump dressed up as Bette Midler ans sang the theme from Beaches, they would never use it.  The vice-president and a majority of the cabinet have to certify that the President is incapacitated.  Mike Pence's head is so far up Trump's ass that he can't tell whether it's night or day.

@raphjd:

Cuomo then observed, “We couldn’t help her any more than we have. She’s got just a free ride so far from the media! We’re the biggest ones promoting her campaign, so it better happen.”

Ok, that was 2014.

HOWEVER, mainstream media as well as social media did absolutely everything they could to ensure Hillary would win right up until the polls closed in Nov 2016.

I will agree that the major networks, NYT, WaPo clearly supported Hillary.  It didn't help that Trump attacked them at every turn.  There were outlets with large audiences–including FoxNews and Breitbart that supported Trump.  I think social media was more balanced.  There was a lot of fake news pillorying Hillary and certainly a lot of posts against Trump.

And you didn't give me the references for the 'poor white people' and 'it wasn't a hate crime' quotes.

Frederick, I challenge you point out any fact that I have gotten wrong.  I will go head to head with you on a fact check any day.
There is a difference between facts and opinions.  If I say Trump is a bully, that is an opinion.  If I say Trump tweeted that Mika was bleeding from a face lift, that is a fact.

Frederick, show me the proof that Hilary's emails were hacked.  in fact, the story today is that a Republican operative, possible working with Flynn, was trying to get Hilary's emails from Russian hackers, but were unable.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/29/gop-operative-tried-to-get-clinton-emails-from-hackers-claimed-ties-to-flynn/
Back in July, the FBI stated that there was no evidence that her server was hacked, although it COULD have been.

The statement on the state.gov emails wasn't mine, it was Politifacts.

Criticizing the President is not sedition.  We live in a democracy, not a dictatorship.  The first amendment, of course, protects free speech.  One could argue we have a duty to hold his feet to the fire.

BTW, was it sedition when Trump claimed that Obama was not a citizen or that he founded ISIS?

@Frederick:

@pppucci:

If said this before and I'll say it again.  We all want to talk about Trump because he is our president.  And yes, we should learn from our past mistakes, but not use them to justify our current ones.

You don't want to TALK about Trump.  All you want to do is make up stories and attack the man and his family.  Even if the stories were true (which they are not) you still have no business attacking him.   A sort of example of this is if you found out your boss at work was planting his turnip in the office secretary.  True or not, you have no business spreading that information publicly and destroying the man.

We have every right to criticize him because we the people of the US are his boss. If you mean we should respect the office of the presidency, then tell Trump to start acting like a president.

@raphjd:

Trump is a child in an adult body.   I've never denied that.

If you bothered to pay attention, I have always maintained that I hate Trump almost as much as I hate Hillary.  That's why I couldn't vote for either.

Unfortunately, there is no one who can seem to discipline that child, not even himself.

Here you go again.  You keep talking about two different sets of statistics –- rates and incidence.
Let's look at rates.  You say that blacks have the highest teenage pregnancy rates, inferring that they have the highest teenage sexual activity rates.  However, the confounding factor in that assumption is contraception rates.  Then you try to draw a line between that and white arrests for statutory rape.  But to make a comparison you would have to look at the rate of arrests in each group, i.e. number of arrests per 100,000 population.
So to make a true comparison, you need to look at the number of arrests per sexually active teen in each each racial group, or the rates of arrests in each group compared to the sexual activity rate (or even pregnancy rate, which is inexact) of each group.
As far as I can tell your argument is blacks have double the teenage pregnancy rate than whites , yet 77% of those arrested for statutory rape are white, therefore there is a racial bias in prosecuting whites for this crime.  Can you see the fallacy in that?