@cteavin:
@Frederick:
@cteavin:
I like to discuss/argue. This comes from a friend on my FB feed.
Thoughts?
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How can we have a constructive conversation about our energy policy when the Right doesn’t believe that human use of fossil fuels is causing climate change?
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Many liberals are willing to compromise on fossil fuels for the sake of more jobs, energy independence, and/or because pipelines are safer for oil transport than the trucks and trains we’re using now. But conservatives refuse to compromise on anything.
The amazing thing about the climate is how LITTLE it changes. While using fossil fuels do significantly affect pollution, it does not have any significant affect upon the climate. Solar power is not a viable source of power. Try to find an anti-fossil fuel liberal who gives up their car. The only viable alternative to fossil fuels is nuclear power, and the liberals are even more against that. Liberals are full of complaints, with no solutions. Solar power is so absurd, that the energy used to make the solar panels combined with the cost of purchasing and maintaining them makes them a less than worthless option.
Ah, by substituting liberal for moonbats your meaning has become clear.
Your first statement says fossil fuels do not have any significant effect on climate. What do you say to the 99% of professional scientists and researchers who use data to say otherwise?
Liberals (and some conservatives) have not given up their cars en mass but they have pushed forth legislation phasing out gasoline-powered automobiles forcing car companies to come up with greener alternatives.
The environmental costs in making nuclear power plants is exponentially more damaging to the environmental costs that the pollution costs in making the solar panels. Over time, the carbon footprint from manufacturing solar panels decreases while the waste from nuclear power plants multiplies over time. (Footnote: There is an isotope that is far safer than the current fuels being used but the technology is already in place for the other type.)
It's not unusual for the vast majority of people to be wrong about something. I've given a couple of examples of this several months ago. One example of that which will be revealed in the future is a man fraudulently convicted of murder in which I would say 99.9% of people are convinced he is guilty.. because almost all the information they have been given about the case is false. (he was framed). I know who framed him, I can prove he was framed, and the evidence I have to prove he was framed was given to me by the person who basically confessed to the crime to me in several chat sessions. He committed suicide a few months later. The jury were not even told that the man who did it existed. His suicide was never even reported. At the time, I thought the man was a nut, but the things he confided to me turned out to all be 100% true when the trial took place 2.5 years after he told me what really happened.
As for climate change… the climate is always changing in cycles. There have been many ice ages, etc. The rate of change is incredibly slow.. and it's not a result of CO2 emissions but because of other factors. If people want to bitch about something real.. bitch about pollution, overpopulation, and the fact that the oceans are becoming barren wastelands due to pollution and overfishing. Many countries dump their raw sewage and garbage right into the ocean.
Ninety-seven percent of the world’s scientists” say no such thing. There are multiple relevant questions: (1) Has the earth generally warmed since 1800? (An overwhelming majority of scientists assent to this.) (2) Has that warming been caused primarily by human activity? And, if (1) and (2), is anthropogenic global warming a problem so significant that we ought to take action?
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425232/97-percent-solution-ian-tuttle
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