Posts made by Frederick

@cteavin:

@Frederick:

Obama is muslim and hates Israel.  For the first 13 years of his life, he was raised in Indonesia (a muslim country) by a strict muslim nut named Soetoro.   The same-sex marriage thing is confusing.  Ultra liberal California was AGAINST it.. which I still don't understand.  Several states started allowing same-sex marriages, and Obama and Hillary were slow to support it.  Hillary was vocally against same-sex marriage for decades, but then with no explanation did a complete flip-flop.  Perhaps Obama supported same-sex marriage to give Muslim countries a reason to hate the USA.  Same situation with using drones to bomb weddings and funerals.

You can't know what's going on in Obama's head, so don't assume you know what he loves and hates.

Obama had a plan to bring peace to the Middle East which involved getting strict with Israel (not unlike how Trump is getting strict with NK) and Obama later backed down, I presume because he didn't have the political capital.

I think living in Indonesia opened Obama's mind about Islam. It's not scary to him. When he grew up there Indonesia was still tolerant. The current brand of Islam wasn't there. Let me be plain: I don't think Islam fits in the West and I'd prefer people from that part of the world not immigrate to the US. But it's not my country, so I'll make a compromise that if we're allowing Muslim people that they must be real moderates or secular. If you feel your woman should wear a hijab or that the mosque must be separated by sex, you can't immigrate. Obama was less picky. Much less picky.

The gay thing in CA, it's not hard to understand. People are more conservative that you think. It's why Trump will win a second term.

If you look at Obama's record of liberalization, he was always in favor of same-sex marriage but had to wait until the time was right. Had he pushed it in his first term, it would have been harder to get a second term. Again, this is politics.

How is it possible to have PEACE with a crazy religion such as Islam?  Yes, judaism and christianity are also crazy, but people don't take those religions literally anymore.  I haven't noticed anybody getting stoned to death for working on the Sabbath lately.  Islamic nations are still using their religion to do things like chop off hands, heads, whip people, throw people off roofs, torture, etc.  It is incredible that anybody who is supposed to be a feminist (Hillary) would give any credibility to a muslim country such as Saudi Arabia (which has sharia law) by accepting endorsements / money from them.

Heres' the "Sharia Law"  song being sung in London England.. which is now controlled by muslims, and has a muslim mayor.  Trump can't even visit London after getting an invitation from the Queen because London is so unstable right now.

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@cteavin:

@Frederick:

@cteavin:

@raphjd:

BLM's entire narrative and "facts" are proven bunches of shit.

The FBI and Justice Depart stats prove it's nothing but shit, but like feminism, fuck the truth.

I didn't say they were true, I said they started with good intentions. I also said that the people under BLM each have their own agendas, they don't all fall under the same umbrella even though they use the same name.

"…people under BLM each have their own agendas, they don't fall under the same umbrella.."   well how convenient for them!   If they belong to BLM, then they are accountable what all BLM members do. 
Whenever some "white" group does something unacceptable, all members of that group are stigmatized.  If there was a group WLM, it would instantly be labeled as being a white supremacist racist group.

If they belong to BLM, then they are accountable for what all BLM members do. You do realize that's a way of thinking that leads to all Christians are X, all gays are Y, don't you?

To a point, I agree with you. I think these various groups should start new groups or a new group like All Lives Matter. In the meantime, it's best to keep an open mind and when someone says they support BLM ask what they mean. I'll guarantee most people don't understand the scope of what they're saying.

@ raphjd, if you argue with people in loud, shouting tones, then, yeah, people are going to say you're a racist, sexist, homophobe. If you're calm and collected you can avoid those traps.

I talk about these things all the time. If I don't know the person well, they walk on eggshells but when they realize I'm interested in conversation, they're almost always cool with it. Unexpectedly, it's always white men that have the hardest time with these conversations (with me). I think it's conditioning. I'm thinking about this white Canadian dude named John, gosh, he squirms when I bring these topics up but unless you're going to talk to me about TV shows and movies I care about, it's a hellofa lot better than idle chitchat.  ;D

Being gay does not involve being a member of any group.  If someone is going to join a group such as BLM, then they are accountable for whatever that group does.

@cteavin:

@raphjd:

BLM's entire narrative and "facts" are proven bunches of shit.

The FBI and Justice Depart stats prove it's nothing but shit, but like feminism, fuck the truth.

I didn't say they were true, I said they started with good intentions. I also said that the people under BLM each have their own agendas, they don't all fall under the same umbrella even though they use the same name.

"…people under BLM each have their own agendas, they don't fall under the same umbrella.."  well how convenient for them!  If they belong to BLM, then they are accountable what all BLM members do. 
Whenever some "white" group does something unacceptable, all members of that group are stigmatized.  If there was a group WLM, it would instantly be labeled as being a white supremacist racist group.

I do like the opinion that BLM has of police though.

@cteavin:

@Frederick:

That is the hypocrisy of Youtube!     There has been for many years, and still is.. a REAL video on Youtube of 3 teenagers in the woods watching a small road.  They spot a man riding a bicycle on the road, and for no reason, attack him, and bash his brains in with a hammer.  They continue this on video, and you can see the man's crushed skull with a pool of blood and bubbles.. his heart is still beating.  I repeat this is a real video.  The 3 guys were convicted, and as I recall, they each got something like 8 years because they were minors.  Please don't ask for more specific details because I do NOT want to look that horrible video up again.  My point is, it is outrageous that Youtube hosts that video.

You're talking about Three Guys, One Hammer. That video has never been allowed on YouTube. People put it up, it gets taken down. It is (or was, I'm not checking) available through thebestgore.com and liveleaks.

If you ever get angry and think, I'm going to kill you, watch that video. It'll change your mind by showing you what murder actually looks like.

That video has been on Youtube everytime I've ever checked.  I just checked again…  there are SEVERAL versions of it on Youtube.  It's possible that your country is blocking it.  In just seconds, I found dozens of links to several versions of it, some with still images, some with digitized images, some with links to the full original video, documentaries which include clips of the video, some in what looks to me like kanji characters.  Youtube certainly has made no attempt to remove it.  I found links that were 6 and 7 years old.

And then there are these 3 guys SINGING about one hammer! 
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@cteavin:

@raphjd:

@rapjjd, what kind of wiretaps are you talking about with Obama? He had authority via The Patriot Act, which the American people allowed to pass unless you're talking about something else.

YES, those.   As well as the other bits included in the Patriot Act and done by executive order.

Obama campaigned to end all that shit, if elected President.   Obama expanded those program far beyond anything GWB had.

Obama campaigned against No Bid contracts, except in dire emergency.  I totally agreed with him.     Turns out that was a fucking lie.  He used them for things like routine and scheduled mothballing of ships.    GWB used them for oil fires in Iraq, despite Schlumberger being the best company to do oil fires, giving the contracts to Halliburton.

The people from what I remember were against most parts of the Patriot Act, as were Obama and Clinton.

I was angry about that (the Patriot Act), too. I also turned against Obama when he had to square his religion with allowing same-sex marriage but you're missing a few things: 1) the campaign trail is different from governing; 2) the information he had during (the beginning of) his campaign about how useful tools like the P.A. was different before and after he took office; 3) he had zero experience in international politics so what he thought was doable (peace in Israel, for example) wasn't and he changed gears.

Simply put, the campaign is the war and governing is maintaining the peace.

You can't insist he was lying if he didn't know the extent of what he could do or if he had to walk a longer road to fulfil certain promises, same-sex marriage is a good example.

Obama wasn't Trumpian. Had Obama gone in on day one and pushed same-sex marriage he would have lost a lot of support because the majority of American's hadn't been sold on the idea. Look to California, a very liberal state, for a clear example. I didn't like that he pushed it aside and made a public pronouncement on how far he'd come on the issue, but in the end, he delivered. That's politics.

A lot of the language you and Fred use imply that Obama wanted to wreck the US and the world. No. He took hold of an ideology that destroys the world believing that this way was the better way. Obama and the left believe in Globalization and feel that if people are exposed to our brand of democracy through globalization that they'll come running towards it. He was and is wrong.

Obama is muslim and hates Israel.  For the first 13 years of his life, he was raised in Indonesia (a muslim country) by a strict muslim nut named Soetoro.  The same-sex marriage thing is confusing.  Ultra liberal California was AGAINST it.. which I still don't understand.  Several states started allowing same-sex marriages, and Obama and Hillary were slow to support it.  Hillary was vocally against same-sex marriage for decades, but then with no explanation did a complete flip-flop.  Perhaps Obama supported same-sex marriage to give Muslim countries a reason to hate the USA.  Same situation with using drones to bomb weddings and funerals.

Often on Chaturbate, people want the performer to show their ass.  I like a nice smooth, hairless ass. 
This is the ass of a 21 year old guy.. He looked great all over.. but then.. I saw his ass.  Good grief!  My dick will be limp for days!

Does anybody find this ass appealing?

By the way.. it's even worse.  In the video this came from the guy is with some nasty guy and a woman who is obviously a severe drug addict, and is so stoned that they have to keep putting her cigarette back in her mouth!  I don't think she even realizes where she is! 

@raphjd:

@rapjjd, what kind of wiretaps are you talking about with Obama? He had authority via The Patriot Act, which the American people allowed to pass unless you're talking about something else.

YES, those.   As well as the other bits included in the Patriot Act and done by executive order.

Obama campaigned to end all that shit, if elected President.   Obama expanded those program far beyond anything GWB had.

Obama campaigned against No Bid contracts, except in dire emergency.  I totally agreed with him.     Turns out that was a fucking lie.  He used them for things like routine and scheduled mothballing of ships.    GWB used them for oil fires in Iraq, despite Schlumberger being the best company to do oil fires, giving the contracts to Halliburton.

The people from what I remember were against most parts of the Patriot Act, as were Obama and Clinton.

Raphjd is exactly correct.  GWB did some terrible things Obama promised to fix.  So, I can understand why someone would vote for Obama in 2008 (even though I knew better).  Obama did not only NOT fix those problems, he made those problems even WORSE.  Anybody who voted for Obama in 2012 should have MORON tattooed onto their forehead.

@raphjd:

YouTube just totally removed all the channels of a guy that does historical military combat reviews, claiming the videos are terrorist training videos.

When was the last time a terrorist dressed up as a 14th century German knight wielding a "skull splitter"?!   Maybe you've seen a terrorist dressed up as one of Gingus Khan's elite horsemen.

Let's not forget his video showing the construction of a Samurai warrior's suit of armour.

He went to japan to do a video on how PROPER/real Samurai swords are made.

YES, all terrorist training videos.

Of course muslims throwing gays off of rooftops and beheading their enemies and preaching jihad and "death to the west" and shit like that are ok to post to YouTube.   Well, those videos are ok as long as it's "pro islam" and not being critical of their actions.

That is the hypocrisy of Youtube!    There has been for many years, and still is.. a REAL video on Youtube of 3 teenagers in the woods watching a small road.  They spot a man riding a bicycle on the road, and for no reason, attack him, and bash his brains in with a hammer.  They continue this on video, and you can see the man's crushed skull with a pool of blood and bubbles.. his heart is still beating.  I repeat this is a real video.  The 3 guys were convicted, and as I recall, they each got something like 8 years because they were minors.  Please don't ask for more specific details because I do NOT want to look that horrible video up again.  My point is, it is outrageous that Youtube hosts that video.

@raphjd:

I will never change my opinion on this.

A peaceful protest/counter protest is nothing bad.

Illegal types of protests are the problem.    NO ONE has the right to use violence/destruction or physical means to prevent others from using their free speech.

Personally, I think the mayor of Berkeley should be hanged, drawn and quartered in the public square and have his head stuck on a pike for the treasonous acts he has committed against the US Constitution.    He sworn an oath to protect and defend the laws of the land and the constitution, but over the last few years he has clearly violated many of them.

I can see it now.. when Trump's presidency is coming to a close, the moonbats who have been convicted (Hillary, Pedosta, Comey, Lynch, etc) will be pleading to be pardoned by Trump!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/23/north-korea-threats-at-unprecedented-critical-level-japan-official-says.html

@raphjd:

Social media has gotten really odd.     It seems that they can't make up their minds on what exactly is oppression, racism and whatnot.

The countless videos of muslims throwing gays from rooftops aren't bad, according to the leftist cucks who run social media.     It's only bad when you are critical of the muslims for doing it.

A video of a black man being critical of BLM, is racist.   A black woman talking about killing whites and cops, is good.

A woman (don't remember her name, black woman and victim of forced FGM) being against female genital mutilation is bad, Cockroach lady claiming that that same woman should have her vagina taken away is good.

What gets me about social media is when the social media itself starts attacking me!  I don't mind that much if people on facebook, youtube, etc.  disagree and attack me.  However, I DO mind when my accounts get suspended, disabled, deleted, etc.  For instance, I've had Youtube accounts which contained several dozen videos that I created myself.. wiped out so that I don't have access to my OWN videos!    Youtube used to be great.. but has gone to shit.

@raphjd:

When I was younger and still went clubbing, I used to get groped by both genders.

Not surprisingly, women were far, far the worst.    I think this is because women are constantly told they are always the victim and nothing they do can be seen as bad since they are always the victims.

How many millions of videos, articles and whatnot do we have telling us the women can NOT be sexist (blacks can't be racist, etc) based on nothing more than their genetics.

I never liked being grabbed, but I would never, ever consider it "rape".

Hell, there's that video from a couple years ago where some cuck was interviewing some feminist (both sitting on semi facing sofas).   The feminist claimed it was "rape" to speak to a woman without her permission.    Besides the obvious about words being "rape", they never explained how you can get a woman's permission in the first place without raping her by asking her if you can speak to her.

The "Dear Colleagues" letter from the Obama administration to colleges changed the rules and definitions of what rape was, to include anything and everything.

I wasn't groped, but I used to get hit on by both males and females a log.  It always creeped me out.  I would have men following me around in parks, on the streets, in library, etc.  The women in Amsterdam were trying to get my attention 10 times as much as anybody else I saw. 
Only one woman seems interest in me these days.. this lady in a pet store.  She has a husband who owns the pet store who is a jerk.  She hates working there.  She appreciates having me come in and give her useful information.  Her husband just feeds her bullshit.

Poll votes can be changed.  
I would suggest that the people who said that  PROTESTING another group's event is not VIOLATING their FREEDOM OF SPEECH should reconsider their vote.

@raphjd:

I agree that Obama tends to get blamed for some things he really wasn't at fault for, such as the economy when he took office.

HOWEVER, he is guilty of a lot of things, such as lying  his ass off to get elected.   He slagged off GWB (and rightly so) for things like the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretaps, no bid contracts and many, many other things.   Turns out, Obama was nothing more than a liar and far worse than GWB when it came to many of these things.

When it comes to no bid contracts, they can be acceptable in emergencies, but to simply mothball a ship, isn't one of those times.      The same goes for scheduled maint. on ships.

Obama used LGBTs as a political ploy to get elected.  Watch his political career and see how he flip flops on the topic depending on the political office he's trying to get.

Obama, like many other black and/or liberal politicians, race baited things like "hands up, don't shoot" even after the FBI proved they were lies.

A full look at the FBI and Justice Depart stats, proves BLM is based on nothing but lies and bullshit.     Obama still invited them to the White House, even though we know of at least 1 case where a child was MURDERD by BLM blocking the highway and not letting the ambulance through.    Let's not forget the chants about killing cops.

Obama, through the Justice Dept's Equalities Division, illegally and dishonestly, changed the way rape and sexual assaults were handled on college campuses.     We went from a court of law to a mentally retarded kangaroo court to persecute young men, because under feminism women didn't have the same rules as men.       A girl is "raped" even if she is sober and she admits she had sex with a man who is so drunk he keeps passing out.

Most everything happens in "waves".  When something is down, it tends to go up.. and when up.. it tends to go down.  When Obama took office, the economy was extremely DOWN.. one would expect that it would go up.  
In Obama's first year it didn't go up..
In Obama's second year it didn't go up.  
In Obama's third year it didn't go up.
In Obama's fourth year it didn't go up.
In Obama's fifth year it didn't go up.
In Obama's sixth year it didn't go up.
In Obama's seventh year it didn't go up.
In Obama's eighth year it didn't go up.
Then Trump was elected.. and before Trump was even inaugurated, the economy started to rise like a ball bouncing the day he was elected.. and has continued to rise since then.  
As history will show, Obama was the worst president ever.

@raphjd:

Obama sent 100 FBI agents to Fruguson to find out the truth.    The FBI proved that "hands up, don't shoot" was a total fucking lie.     Obama and many others still maintained the lie of "hands up, don't shoot".

Obama invited BLM to the White House, even after all the shit they caused.   They blocked roads, and we know they caused at least 1 child to die because of that.   They chanted about cop killing.    BLM is based on the writings of that cop killer who fled to Cuba.

Obama maintains the feminist lies, even though government stats prove feminism is based on lies.    In the UK, paying women much less than men is rampant.  HOWEVER, in the 13 years that labour was in power, they only prosecuted 16 small companies.     If it's so rampant, you'd think they would be prosecuting 10,000+ businesses a month.

Yahoo and HuffPo got female CEOs, who then went on to do a male employee purge.   Not a fucking word from Obama and the rest of the SJW panderers.

Obama spouted the "just believe" bullshit.   HOWEVER, Lacy Green was never prosecuted for raping over 4 million people.

Obama spouted the "gender equality" bullshit, but like a typical feminist, he totally ignored the areas when men are far worse off so he could keep spouting the debunked bullshit lies.     Countless liberal governments in the west have done the same thing.      Western governments have pledged to tackle the issue of "women make up 24% of the homeless".   They totally fucking ignored the remaining 76%.

RAPE IS RAPE, a feminist campaign fought to get some rape classed as rape under federal law.    Sadly, as with feminism, they still insisted that men can rape anyone and women can only rape other women.    They used the UK's anti male sex crime laws as their basis.    But let's not forget that feminism is supposedly about gender equality.

"There's a special place in hell for women who don't vote for Hillary" we were told by Madeline Albright and countless other women.

Hillary labelled everyone who didn't support her as "deplorables" and countless other things.

Black students at Berkley did countless protests with the backing of the City, Police and University.   In their "white people go around" where they forced white kids to walk through the creek to get to class, the police where there to arrest uppity crackers who didn't obey their black masters.

We saw the same kind of shit at Evergreen.   Black students and their cucks went around with baseball bats looking for disobedient honkeys.    They held the President of the college hostage and wouldn't let him go to the bathroom.

Hillary and Obama (and countless others) saw nothing wrong with Richard Spencer being sucker punched, under the narrative "punch a Nazi".

Let's go back to when Obama was first elected President.   GWB's FBI arrested 2 "New Black Panther" protesters for brandishing weapons and making threats to white voters in Philadelphia.    Obama/Holder dropped the charges.     This was a clear sign of what Obama was all about.

Let's not forget Obama belonged to Rev Jerimiah Wright's church.   You know the one.   It's the one where they slag off the US and white people.   Obama was shown in the video of "It's not god bless America, but god damned America" while he was stiffer than most of his fellow parishioners, he was just as much in agreement as they were with what  Rev Wright was saying.

Obama routinely lied about the "evil" police and the facts and figures.   He didn't care what the FBI and Justice Depart. said, he spouted whatever SJW narratives said.

I don't think Obama was any "anti-christ", but I think OBAMA believed he was the anti-christ.  Obama seemed to do everything possible to bring the USA down and help the muslim nations out.  Obama gutted the military, pretty much shut NASA down, tried to bankrupt the country with healthcare that was impossible to fund,  doubled the national debt, tried to shut down the coal, oil, and nuclear industries, tried to bankrupt the country and make retirees money worthless by raising the minimum wage to $15/hour,  destroyed all the good relationships we had with other countries, etc.

@raphjd:

That was one of them, but I'm not sure she went the "whole hog" as it were.

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I got a week ban from Twitter for calling BLM racists and liars.

I mirrored a video by Terrence Williams where he criticized BLM.   I got a community strike for posting racist content on YouTube.

A black woman (since been arrested for it) posted a video brandishing guns and machetes talking about killing whites and cops, but that's not racist according to YouTube.   YouTube only took it down after a judge order them to.

I knew that Facebook and Youtube had been corrupted by morons.. I guess Twitter has also.  I've never been a twitter fan anyway.  What's next?  Tumblr? 
These social networking sites better watch themselves… Countries that ignore US patents, etc. could create clones of their apps.. only without the moronic, draconian rules.    VK.COM is already a near clone of Facebook.  It is hosted in Russia.  Who every dreamed that Russia would be more free than the USA?

@flozen:

@Frederick:

In some countries, Hillary and Obama would be executed for their treason.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/22/house-also-probing-obama-era-uranium-one-deal-desantis-says.html

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If your goal is to inform us of a treason so onerous that it's worthy of execution in some far-flung locales, then you're providing very weak support with a news citation of unproven conduct that – as even the Fox headline clearly states -- is a House probe, and naturally, an allegation supported by a nameless, "confidential" informant.

But I was glad to find that the YouTube link was not another tin-foil-hat raver holding court in a reclining lounger.  Instead, a musical respite in the theme to TV's Cops, a show I do enjoy!  Not that you enjoy actual cops, as you've repeatedly noted.  Is there – please God! -- a related story about your police run-ins that can take the place of your never-ending, incomplete, international hush-hush murky murder mystery?!?   :crazy2:

You are self-delusional. 
You have quite a cavalier attitude considering the following people are in deep doo-doo:  Hillary, Comey, Mueller, Obama, Lynch  and some others that I'm not recalling at the moment.

In case you are not aware… as time goes on.. it is being proven that Trump did nothing wrong.. while his adversaries DID do quite a bit wrong.  It's pretty obvious that their scheme was to try and cripple Trump before the truth was exposed.  Their scheme FAILED

In some countries, Hillary and Obama would be executed for their treason.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/22/house-also-probing-obama-era-uranium-one-deal-desantis-says.html

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@cteavin:

@Frederick:

I'm no expert.. but my understanding is that Japan is a pretty good place now.. although their police are a bit harsh (just ask Paul McCartney).
China  is a land of hypocrisy.  China is fine to the OUTSIDE world.. but it's no fun being a citizen of China..   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_JSBVsL_s

There is no redemption culture here. You make a mistake, you're done, especially when you're a celebrity as you have an influence on people.

McCartney was bused on marijuana possession. Good on Japan for keeping him out. Once you start making exceptions then everyone becomes an exception.

There's a famous duo named Chage and Asuka here. One was caught with some kind of stimulant drug. He lost everything. He will never make a comeback and he'll most certainly be spending more time in prison.

The most famous comedic duo in Japan, one member was caught sneaking into a high school to steal a girls uniform and was caught. It was discovered he'd been doing this successfully for years. He lost everything as well and I'm pretty sure is still in prison.

Celebrities have a responsibility as young people mirror them.

As to China's death penalty, America executes far too few. We have rookie numbers and should get them up to where China's are. There's too much garbage in jails and prisons that needs to be cleared up, so China's looking pretty good to me by way of your example.

I have another story about Japan and marijuana.  Roughly 30 years ago, singer Morten Harket of norwegian group a-ha was having a birthday party in Los Angeles (Morten was married at the time with a boy.. but he is bi and spent almost no time with his wife).  Anyway, Morten's boyfriend got nabbed in the airport in Japan with marijuana, resulting in Morten flying to Japan to bail him out for roughly $35,000 USD.  That was a bit embarrassing for Morten.  Years later, Morten got caught again, this time with the lead singer of Aqua named "Lene".  They got in a motorcycle accident in which Lene was riding on back.. exposing their affair.  That resulted in a very expensive divorce for Morten, and also being dumped by Lene who said Morten was too old for her.

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I am not a fan of executions for several reasons:
1.  It's FAR cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to execute them
2.  The inmate will suffer being in prison, whereas dead people feel no pain nor remorse.
3.  If someone is thinking that they will be executed, then they will resort to doing anything to avoid being captured - including killing more people.
4. It is FAR too random.  The odds of someone being executed even when on death row is something like 1 in 100.  With odds that low, the death penalty is unfair, and no deterrent at all.  (in the USA, women are almost never executed)
5.  FAR to often, people who are later found to be not guilty have been executed.  That should NEVER happen. 
In the case I reference often, if that country had a death penalty, he would have been executed.  He will be out in a year or two and completely exonerated.

@cteavin:

@Frederick:

I thought that in Japan, when something goes wrong, the person in charge is expected to commit hari kari, resign, or at least take full responsibility for it.

Up until the WWII, and a bit after as the mentality took a while to die, for example, when a newly built ship was being launched the manager of that project stood by with a ceremonial knife in tow. If the ship were to sink, he would commit ritual suicide.

It's important to understand how romanticised suicide was in those days to understand the why.

In the modern era, when something goes wrong no one looks for a person to blame. People come together to fix the problem. Later, they look at the whole. It's never a question of X did it. It is the case that X was part of a team and A, B, C for some reason didn't catch said mistake and D, E, and F managers missed something, so how can we repair this. This is why Japanese quality is said to be high. (The person who directly causes a mistake will absolutely apologize, publically and often individually. In Japanese one never gives an excuse or explains why the mistake happened. That is seen as diffusing responsibility.)

On the state level, when a politician is caught in a scandal they step down. They accept responsibility for their actions and understand that they wear the face of the party. This is why there have been so many Prime Ministers in Japan over the past few decades. The opposition party recently tried to embroil Abe in a scandal and, in a rare case, Abe stood up and fought it, keeping his position in order to push his policies forward.

I'm no expert.. but my understanding is that Japan is a pretty good place now.. although their police are a bit harsh (just ask Paul McCartney).
China  is a land of hypocrisy.  China is fine to the OUTSIDE world.. but it's no fun being a citizen of China..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_JSBVsL_s