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Today's world of electronic everything means what US folk call "hustlers" can be found online. But those are top moneymakers.

In the old days, there were hustler bars where young men would hang out and hope to meet an older "john" for some spending money,
maybe more. Some gay, some strait, some homeless, they were horny, always potent, and enjoyed the sex and the money.

In NYC, Joe Dallesandro, in Trash– a great Warhol film-- recommends to a young man that he hang out around a news stand at
E 53 St., where there were a couple of bars down the block full of available men, and where cars and pedestrians both would stop
to engage the services of available youth, sometimes high school jocks trying to get enough money to take their girl on a date later
that same night.

But now... Times Square is a Disneyfied tourist trap, the old bars on Eighth Ave. and in the Village seem to be gone, and I'm not even
sure one can still find peep shows with idle youth lounging for quick sex and quick cash right on the spot.

But I'm no longer in NYC very often, and don't even know what is going on in SF and L.A. anymore. I think WeHo ("Boys Town") has
been scoured of street strollers and maybe even Polk Street is gone.

But is that really true? Aren't horny youth still eager for money and blow jobs? High school students and Puerto Ricans were among
old-time favorites, but that was in another era, pre plague, with backroom bars and bathhouses (saunas) for frolics.

What goes on Now? Outside of adverts in weekly papers and online, where are the casual for-pay pickups? And whatever is happening
in major US cities, is there any similar activity in the U.K.? In Europe? Lots of Czech youth and others hard up for relief and beaten down
by the "austerian" jobless economy might be available, but so is a serious ass-kicking if someone gets offended. Hampstead Heath
may be no more or less safe than ever, and there has to be cottaging all over, right?

But I don't know these things, and this forum has knowledgeable folk who live and travel all over and who can answer these simple,
ignorant questions about gathering places and casual exchanges of meat and money.

Not long ago, I found a forum elsewhere in which the claim was made that "rough trade" meant, in NYC anyway, African-Americans
and Latinos. Some had a hard time believing that had not always been true, and that "trade" and "rough trade" had nothing to do
with race or social status and that the two-- trade, rough or not-- were very different. So the world changes and leaves the ignorant
behind. these days, even a good old-fashioned word like Cuckold, known for some 800 years or more, means something other than
a husband whose wife has cheated on him.

So I gotta ask for the wisdom, knowledge, and experience of my younger and better readers and hope there will be an informative and
lively discussion.

Yes, this is an old thread. What's your point?

As it happens, the topic is just as lively, just as life/death now as it ever was. And a lot has happened since the sensational
"news" story about the horrors and dangers of horny faggots baring their perversion on camera for pay. Ohh, the horror.

In California, much of the mainstream porn industry of all orientations is in the area just north and west of Los Angeles in
the famous San Fernando Valley of which Bing Crosby sang in a hit song named after the general area. (It's on YouTube!)
Or perhaps there are geezers out there who have heard of Highway 101, known locally as "The 101," which runs east and
west across the whole area before bending north toward San Francisco and south, past the Marine base at Camp Pendleton
where Bobby Garcia made so many legendary videos of real soldiers getting naked and celebrating the pleasures of relieving
their horniness, and on toward San Diego.

I mention The 101 because it is the scene of a classic early rock 'n' roll song about a man who wore "Black Denim Trousers"
and a leather jacket "with an eagle on the back" when he was riding his motorcycle there. Great song. Vaughn Monroe, 1955.
The Edith Piaf version in French is also pretty damn terrific. Both are on YouTube, or have been.

Anyway, local authoritarians, in order to "protect the public" from easy access to visual titillation, have in their "wisdom" recently
decided condoms will be mandated for all porn. Well, that's one solution. Those who don't like it are free to relocate to friendlier
climes just outside the long bell end of the law, where professionally competent performers may be more difficult to locate than
in an industry town pretty much adjacent to Hollywood itself, which certainly made for convenient extra night work for
cameramen and others when the home video industry was being launched.

I saw a porn performer with a YouTube channel (!) a while ago, chatting gaily on and referencing "the old days" when you had to
rent a video and pop it in, back before the Internet thing. Ha! Maybe not in his lifetime, but definitely in mine, there once were no videotapes.
Hell, once upon a time there were no 8-track audio tapes either. And the most porn a man-fan was likely to get was some
quality time with the underwear section of a gigantic store catalogue (those no longer exist, and neither do some of the stores,
which, like the old-fashioned "five and dime" with sewing patterns and a lunch counter (often racially segregated) have also vanished.

Hard to believe there was a time when a boy had to go through puberty without ever seeing anyone having actual sex on camera,
not in the movies and certainly not even in magazines, where women famously had bodies with a staple in the middle. There were
no bulging Speedos or "budgie huggers" to oogle in secret fascination. (Which is where bodybuilding magazines became a significant
means for connection (see Beefcake, the movie). Once there did get to be "adult" theaters and 8mm peep shows, what you got to
see was the way of a man with a maid, and you had to decide where to direct your attention, which may not have been where the
filmmaker intended to feature.

But yeah, the hub of the US pr0n industry is being challenged– oddly, just at the time when prophlaxis is becoming available before and after
unprotected sex. That doesn't stop BB movies. The last person I knew who was shooting a fuck flick in that area employed only
existing m/f couples, so they were already exposed to each other and were not going to be exposed to anyone else. So there are
perfectly legit and healthy workarounds that existed even before HIV+ people could reduce their viral load to an undetectable level,
and before rapid testing and the rest of the medical advances for which we can thank Larry Kramer and ACT-UP, among others. (See,
for example, the star-studded recent remake of The Normal Heart (available right here), based on a revival of his original
Broadway play written at the start of the crisis and as important a part of history to know as why pirates had cabin boys, whether
"rum, sodomy, and the lash" was once the Royal Navy norm, and that there have Always been gay soldiers and armored warriors
having gay sex since, oh, at least the love of David and Jonathan in that book they all keep abusing.

Much of the prurient challenge to prevent other people from having a good time is a result of the usual fearmongering from the usual
god-bothering Wholly Babble wallopers trying to impose churchianity and feed the war machine while keeping women and the poors
subservient. But I digress.

What I think is interesting about the supposed BB videos I've seen is that most of them still withdraw to display "the money shot,"
usually delivered by an extensive prolonged handjob and perhaps a time-lapse cut or two so that the movie does not show a major
droop or hiatus between passionate pistoning and far-spewing proof of pleasure being taken in the performance.

As someone noted, porn actors are not paid to have good sex; they are paid to look good having sex.  Bobby's real enlisted young
horndogs are amazing to watch, often brilliantly handsome, macho, muscled, boyish, innocent despite their experience (sometimes
over a half dozen years or more of penetrating their love objects, even when they are still in their teens.   Unfortunately, while
Bobby sweet talks them into enjoying great orgasms and pays them well enough that they keep coming back (even bringing along
other guys  from the barracks), part of what makes his sessions so completely credible is the frequently incompetent camerawork,
the train whistle blowing loudly just outside his low budget setting, which is next to the Base railroad stop that everyone uses for
weekend liberty at "the titty bars" downtown. Add in the annoying longeurs a la Warhol's early anti-verisimilitude approach to
moviemaking, and you can see why John Waters like them so much. Never was art so artfully artless as these documents of the
secret life, needs,  and serviceable accommodations of this virile warrior class.

Never a doubt about those men, and when the lights are working and the camera properly aimed and focused, your eyeballs will
occasionally burst into flame from the reflected heat of these male animals discharging their abundant tension at the peak of their
fertility and the moment of maximum explosive power for what often is a very long-awaited draining, as documented in closeup
as they grin cheekily with pride in response to Bobby's praise of their macho and professionalism. Then they may take their cash
and stumble out with a few beers in them, looking to get laid they way the like best-- if they can-- now that the frenzied edge of desperation
has been taken off and their randy prowl bankrolled for the night.

Awol Marines - October 2010 Audition Archives, for example, offers a goodly selection of Bobby's work.
https://www.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=c6c5ae52576b8fdc721e650ad4175fa3b81f43f0d6e96a5d&hit=1

There may be handjobs, oral, anal, solos, duos, whatever. And am I the only one who ever watches these and thinks, gosh, I hope that
poor, naively macho stud gets some of the action he's after, because the girl would certainly have a good time. Actually, I guess not,
because there are some videos where guys plow gals and mess around with each other, or take time out from a well paying gig doing
gay for pay to make a record of them slamming their girlfriends enthusiastically. As with Dirk Yates, who followed soon after with his own
military strait guys, some of the blowjobs and manual stupration of the membrane get a sensational result that clearly takes the
satisfied youth to a whole new level of carnal bliss.

Another digression. Rambling again. Would be nice if there could be a pleasant conversation about such things, maybe even right here.

Anyway, yeah, there are BB vids, but what shocks me as I said is that for all the fuss about condomless sex, the load is usually airborne.
And even alleged oral enthusiasts m and f, seem generally uninterested in swallowing that lush cream, which cannot be entirely for the
benefit of the camera, but more of what seems to me, anyway, as a pathetic failure at being able to feign actual interest. It's only on
occasion that the man topping gets so carried away as to shoot inside, though some do rather make a feature of showing the result after
the flood has been launched.

And if showing it deposited inside one hole or another is the point (maybe it is not?), why wouldn't a cream-filled rubber make the same point,
and not interrupt the exciting finish for the participants to "hit their mark," as they say in acting? I mean, isn't it closer to actual two-person
sex if the act includes with everything in situ? A condom can provide that. So can quick gulping or some other clear evidence besides the
frantic breathing and twitching of the man cumming, whether or not we ever see a drop of what just put a smile on at least his own face that
is absolutely convincing. Some of these SoCal military-man stimulation sessions pretty clear help the man achieve a previously unknown
level of all-in satisfaction.

It might only be me in search of authenticity. Not sure bareback for the camera necessarily provides that, whatever the risk. Anyone? Bueller?

The gay comics represent an interesting range of styles and erotic interests, but there have to be strait versions today that go just as far in showing actual sex acts to completion, but the days of the legendary Tijuana Bibles, gross 8-page comics supposedly from Mexico, are long gone. Those were filthy, but not erotic, actually– an early teenage boy's fantasy of giant cocks and welcoming pussies not aimed at creating arousal from a hot story about sexy couples (often based on actual movie stars of the day, perhaps a half century ago), but just showing crudely graphic genitalia not much above bathroom grafitti. Made kids snicker and feel wicked.

Now, things are different, and from the days of Little Annie Fannie in Playboy there are mainstream adult comics full of professionally drawn goddesses and studs in elaborate X-rated adventures. But what about the yaoi and manga equivalent of gay comics for the het world? There are probably lots of such files right here, but is there some easy way to locate them, as distinct from the male/male or furry tales? News reports say that Japan has still not banned het child rape comics, but there must be alternatives to force and violence against children, right?

This is a wonderful thread, completely inspirational. These gifs capture the explosive moment of ecstasy in all its gushing glory.

Can anyone recommend a Simple program to combine a series of stills into such marvels of manly motion? Because if more people
(like me) knew how to create such minimasterpieces, there would probably be more of them.

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Don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it. Are there videos with similar moments?

christ2000 said: I don't know much of the recruiting policy for gay porn, can't they test the actors BEFORE making them have unprotected sex?

No one at any known studio is "making" anyone do anything. Period.

The relation between what is onscreen and what actually happens may be tangential at best. Lots of staged scenes of allegedly
sleeping men "molested," supposedly "strait" guys "tricked" into gay sex on a bus or at a gloryhole. This works fine as fantasy,
even with the performer being a known porn star. In his first movie or two, gay-for-pay Jeff Stryker had a stunt cock for the
money shots. Also, lots of editing goes on to eliminate limp periods, and the cum shot may not follow instantly from when the
condom-clad dick is removed. The bottom may not cum quickly, etc.

What I've been thinking about lately is some comments on various torrents that the cum is fake. That is problematic, for me anyway.
Maybe the raw fuck is completed to climax and then additional visual sauce is added? Or maybe the whole thing is fake. So then
it is a question of what degree of fantasy you want. The idea is that real men are having real orgasms, right? That's why they pull
out most of the time in gay– or strait-- porn, so you can tell the actor has "finished."

All the moaning and "oh, yeah, fuck me baby" babble for the mic can be ignored if you want, but when the ejaculation occurs,
it is hot to think it is the real thing, just as one is watching guys actually do it, whatever "it" is. With internal cum shots, it
is more difficult to demonstrate that cum was delivered. A sucker who opens the mouth widely enough to see it filled with
man suds, or a dick that shoots a bit outside but mostly inside where the goo dribbles or squirts, drains or is spit, that all
works. But I just watched a bunch of people having unprotected anal sex and it seemed to me the copious liquid that
resulted looked the same for each pair of performers. And there was ALWAYS some kind of cut before the "proof" was shown.

Pulling out to climax for the camera is not how the world is supposed to operate, so I like seeing the mouth, pussy, or ass receive what
it has been working so hard for. Rarely, what is shown is the condom being loaded up before extraction. Equally as easy to fake,
maybe easier, but it can be done credibly. Problem is to identify such videos. Much closer to safer sex that way.

I know one guy who shot a strait porno who used only existing m/f couples, who only played with each other and did not use
condoms. That is one solution, and there are some gay scenes like that, or supposedly like that. Real life lovers provide a
different visual to fantasize about. But what IS this where the BB scene ends with the top pulling out and shooting all over
the hole and THEN plunging back in? That's just stupid. Either do it or don't.

Thank you. Very graphic demonstration of the need to seed, keep the oats up to date and ready for sowing.
Another argument for keeping the issue in hand, if there is no better place to put it. Might make a nice sign for a
bedroom or wherever you might want some subtle propaganda in favor of partnering up for good health
and richer, juicer, longer and happier life.

Mike, if you are really falling under my spell… and you feel yrself getting sleepy and horny and waiting for orders... you can send hot photos to me.

Yeah, like that's gonna happen. Because feeling like being in a trance does not make you actually Act like you find my instructions irresistible. Dammit!

As to the question of where to fap, right there in the dorm, of course. There are no doubt cubicles in the bathroom, maybe even separate showers for each randy young stud, and there is always the civilized and liberated approach of telling your roommate about the old Sock on the Doorknob trick of keeping out spectators when you have company, pointing out that it can work equally well when you are enjoying some private time with Manny
Fivefingers, though perhaps that would be too much of a public announcement.

Since you will not have all yr classes at the same times and you are not the only one who might go on a "date" that leaves the other guy alone
to fap to his heart's content, these worries should be much easier to cope with than however you handle having actual family members living in
close proximity to the wankarama.

It might even come as a shock to you, but at least in arousing fiction, normal guys have been known to just make a deal that since everybody does it and it's no big deal, you can just ignore each other -- no shame, no blame. Or, of course, watch porn and stroke together like all those straits in military and other popular videos being paid for giving in to solo lust adjacent to some other paid strait horndog. Just because I'm old and still uptite having been raised in the dark ages before degenerate perverts doing the "disgusting and abominable crime against nature" just like a couple hundred other animal species, does not mean that everyone is that uptite.

Even when I was yr age, innocent, naive straits would walk down the unisex dorm corridor in their birthday suit on their way to the shower. Either did not know or care they were being groped by eye. Maybe even felt that if anyone was looking, they felt validated as attractive males.

Or maybe you are just having fun thinking about all the college sex and being surrounded by inspiration and temptation. As you know perfectly well, you will do just fine, same as always.

Original link is dead. Grrr.

dmcuk said it perfectly:
"Well I don't think of "gay sex" as being "gay".  For me, calling a person gay means they fall for men, love them, desire them etc.  Sex with men is different.  Any man and have sex with any man or woman - the terms "gay" and "straight" have nothing to do with it."

Men do what they do, and maybe the proverb "at night, all cats are gray" applies. Gore Vidal said there was only sex, not gay sex or strait sex. If
a man fancies men in general, rather than women, wants sex with men, etc. then that emotional and intellectual attention is gay-oriented. If a man
is simply hard and ready, it's not about who gets him off or how he gets off so much as it is about how much he wants to get off, with details like
the gender of the partner being irrelevant.

Jeff Stryker is strait, had a big court case to get custody of his son. Casey Donovan, perhaps the first gay porn star, did a bi scene once. He called it "acting." Rugged rugger stud Colby Jansen says he is not strait but won't define himself further and obviously enjoys sex, period. Whether he's fucking women on camera or is in bed with his wife, he doesn't seem to feel restricted or limited. And occasionally bottoming doesn't make him one whit less macho and manly and studly. Real men can do anything or anyone they want, and they are still men. Back in the day, maybe Stryker could not bottom and keep his reputation, but that was then.

Since they ARE men, whatever they do is, by definition, something a man does. By now everyone must know that drag queens are often tops, and that het men sometimes enjoy packing their wedding tackle into lacy panties or even use dildos on themselves or enjoy playing with a woman wearing a strap on– and using it. We do what we do. Labels are no more meaningful than a person thinks they are.

What gets me is men so insecure they can't handle a perfectly friendly and nonsexual male embrace lest it raise doubts about their manliness. Some of the active duty US Marines in Bobby Garcia videos (and others) on this site may be horny and/or need the money, but most of them quickly get over the idea that if they cum on camera with another guy, they are so threatened that they are no longer interested in heading out later to pick up pussy at a local bar, now that they have some mad money in their pocket.

Somewhere here there is a (web?) series of interviews with male porn actors, and boyish Johnny Rapid talks about being a fast, vigorous fucker
with his girl friend (I believe they have a couple of kids together). For all that he seems to bottom most of the time, that is not the only role he
plays, and I like seeing him top as much as I like, say, Tommy Defendi on the bottom-- handsome, hung, macho, manly, hairy, and just as able to get off as when he's doing what made him famous. Some bottoms apparently prefer that role with men because they cannot get it up reliably in order to top a dude, even with hetero porn vids playing for their encouragement.

Actually, a lot of these guys who claim to be bi or strait should be allowed or encouraged to do some strait porn and show how they treat women. And an awful lot of the SoCal surfers and Camp Pendleton Marines who come back repeatedly for the easy bucks would be really worth seeing in action as these breeders fuck pussy and get paid to show us what they do for fun in private with the opposite sex. Makes me hot to think of all the experience and skill they bring to the solo sessions and partnered orgasms they have on camera.

And then there's tattooed Kurt Lockwood, who made his name as an absolutely reliable performer with women. He's probably fucked more virgin female ass than most men in the profession, but ChiChi LaRue paid him enough to do an all-male scene. In several justifiably legendary videos, sometime actor and MTV host Simon Rex reveals himself to be a real fapmeister for the man behind the camera and the dudes paying to watch, but he tells himself out loud at one point that he's performing alone and no one else is touching him or being touched.

Like actors in legit theater who have to be funny every night even if their dog or mother just died, and who have to make an entrance in credible tears, even gay men in gay porn tell themselves whatever they have to in order to get the scene right. How is that any different from being hired professionally to do a gay scene?

Actually, lots of gay actors play straight romantic leads in Hollywood. Rock Hudson is hardly the only famous example. And Neal Patrick Harris did just fine playing a womanizing lothario on the telly. Even Wolverine has played gay in movies and on stage, because he is an actor and a professional. Mark Wahlberg, when young, dedicated a book he "wrote" to "my dick" and has come a long way since he refused to do a gay kiss for fear it would hurt his stud cred on the street. He has since apologized for that ignorance. And right now coming to a pay channel on the electronic television machine is an all-star cast of Hollywood Hunks and Stars in a new version of Aids activist Larry Kramer's angry groundbreaking tearjerker, "The Normal Heart." Gay Matt Bomer and Hetero Mark Ruffalo have some passionate male scenes together that were very intimate and challenging, but I'll bet they are also very believable and convincing, too.

I guess I'm thinking that if hetero actors can play gay and have convincingly realistic sex when a script calls for it, there's no particular reason why actual sex should be any more of a challenge. When you're hot, you're hot, right? Jim Carrey, Ewan McGregor, and Matt Damon have all played sexually active gay characters without women getting turned off. No, it's not the same as Ron Jeremy doing a gay scene, but then, who wants him to? And the money, at least for repeat offenders, is excellent.

Most men would have a helluva lot more sex if they weren't scared of what some judgmental shit might think, that's all. If a man knows how to use a deep throat effectively, except for whatever nonsense might be in his head, what difference does it make what equipment is belong the cocksucker's neck?

Grrr. Too many words. Again. My mind wanders. Does any of this even make sense?

Unless you are the only male in an all-girls school, you are already surrounded by guys. And if you have compulsory gym, you may
get to spend some quality time enjoying lockeroom eye candy. You might even visit a swimming pool, watch divers in Speedos,
or wrestlers who sometimes get carried away.

Also, don't you find these videos educational as well as inspirational? Perhaps even liberating so that you become more and more
willing to accept yr horniness as the natural state of the male animal because it impels one to fulfill the biological destiny of men
everywhere– spreading the seed. So natural. So pleasurable. And it will never be easier to find partners than it is for you Right
Now. And with experience, there will be an increase in comfort and confidence and skill and the act itself will become better.

It is good to know that this site can promote that kind of willing activity as you find yourself more and more in the mainstream
of dick-swinging men doing what men do.

On dating sites, there are a lot of older men who are now widowed or newly single who seem interested in exploring the possibility
that they might find male partners more easily than attempting to re-enter the dating scene from their lost youth. And maybe they
have just delayed acting on long-time desires, but it also seems a little… conveeenient, to quote the SNL Church Lady.

Young guys, on the other hand, are perfect examples of the old saying that youth is wasted on the young. The horny, randy, and
always ready period is also the time of life when men are maybe most afraid of not being manly enough or of compromising their
masculinity in some way instead of simply cumming as much as possible with as many people as possible until the frenzy of youth
has been satisfied, or replaced with more selective choices or higher quality partners.

Eventually, some men figure out that a hand is a hand, and if they are not afraid to be touched or to show their O face to as they
inseminate the cosmos with wet and messy triumphs of male fecundity, they can just let go and enjoy it. And, hell, "you will not die,"
Dylan said. "It's not poison." If you are afraid to taste a man's cream (yours or someone else's), why would you think women would
want to do such a thing? Are they braver or crazier than you are?

If you do not care about the opinion of others on the matter of what you do in private, alone or with company, what in the hell is
holding you back from keeping yr balls drained? The fear that someone else might benefit in the same way because men are evolved
from generations of focused DNA to breed indiscriminately, at least in their earliest years of practice and discovery?

I had two revelations about all this that came disgustingly late in life. One was when I found out that the legendary horndog of my
acquaintance who had more pussy than almost anyone outside celebrity circles had discovered he liked fucking women in the ass,
and that they loved it. Not generalizing about all women, only his experience. If he thinks an ass is good entertainment, I thought, he
might well be interested in a man's ass, too. We did not discuss the matter, so I do not know, but it was certainly more of a possibility
after I learned that than when I thought his interest in women was more restricted.

The other discovery is something I learned from watching videos with ex-Marine Colby Jansen, a burly rugby player, and other tops.
Would love to see more straight and bi videos with guys like him, but it is also exciting to watch him bottom. Like Tommy Defendi and
Rafael Alencar and other handsome, hung guys who make a living by having sex and are damn good at it, turns out if a man knows
who he is, he can be plowed like a factory farm, have an explosive orgasm, and still be a macho superstud-- because a "real man"
has any kind of sex he wants. Period.

It's like the long-ago humor book, "Real Men Don't Eat Quiche." Guess what? Real men eat anything they want. If you want to make
anything of it, let's step outside.... There are a large number of videos of active duty U.S. Marines jacking solo for the camera, getting
blow jobs, and even fucking and getting fucked. They even recruit their buddies for a quick buck, or bring them in to partner. And
then, with some cash in their pocket, they head out to the local watering hole to "pick up chicks" together.

Once men begin to accept what uptite young studs have yet to embrace, that "a hard prick has no conscience" and they can have a lot
more sex if they believe in the notion of "any port in a storm," they can start being fully active sexually and use their joy-giving equipment
to brighten the lives of any potential partner. And, as Woody Allen says, being bi doubles your chances of getting a date. Anything less is
a matter of neurotic inhibition, if you ask me. Which you did not.

Apparently lots of men like to do solo cam appearances because it makes them feel sexy to brag about and demonstrate their stud equipment
in action. Maybe they think women are watching. Maybe they think men are watching. Either way, they have to be thinking that anyone who
watches has to be thinking this is one hot cookie having a helluva good time. And if they go on to make home movies of fucking and sucking
with a partner who is well pleased, the validation of sexually savvy spectators is increased.

I used to thinking youth are esp. hot-- and they are, of course. But there is also something thrilling about watching adults, grown men with
experience and skill, having creative, fulfilling, cum-gushing sex with each other, with women, with groups, with twinks.... It's all good if you
think it is, and if you do not think it is, then for you it is not. But that is your hangup, not something dictated by moralizing perverts going all
the way back to the Big Bang when the rule was issued that you have a dick and balls and lust, but are forbidden to use or enjoy any of that
except according to one or another group of people not getting as much action as you can be having if you are open to it.

All of which is to suggest you check your premises. Most people today, at least in my society, have accepted the idea that masturbation is
liberating, fun, and harmless. They feel the same way about porn. SOME of them feel the same way about actually having consensual sex
and enjoying not only their ability to work up powerful orgasms themselves, but the satisfying way in which they can bring others to the
same joyful point. Very validating in terms of feeling sexually competent.

There is an old book, very cheap online, called Sex and the Single Man by Dr. Albert Ellis. At the time, more than half a century ago, he thought
homosexuality was a perversion because it restricted your choice of partners, the range of people and places a man can deposit his seed. But
that was his problem with it, the restriction, not some cosmic immorality. He has a number of brilliantly transformative essays and dialogues
on dealing with guilt issues. There is a chapter promoting masturbation and listing the benefits and advantages. Woody Allen again-- you do
not have to be looking your best in order to get laid.

And there is an eye-opening chapter in which he counsels a man who feels guilty about sex with a woman because she was a virgin at the time
and now she is "spoiled" for other men. It never occurs to him that if he is more than willing to have sex with someone where he is not her first,
other men might be equally hesitant, and so now the woman who allowed him entrance for the first time-- her choice-- is now more readily
available for other guys who might have the same hangup he did. In fact, apart from the fun they had, he did her a service that will be
a benefit for the rest of her life.

One outstanding service of this site is the range of experiences one can enjoy watching. It's not just books on health and techniques, but the
chance to see real people having real body-to-body frolics for simple fun, whether for pay or for love or just to flaunt and feel manly and macho
and studly about. All of these people are having a seriously good time, alone or with others. Personally, I find it inspirational and wish I had been
more open and accepting of the possibilities from a much earlier age. May you find out all these things asap and not wait until you can no longer
have the choices and performance of a man on his way to his prime years of fulfillment as he learns, with great pleasure, how rewarding it is
to satisfy others and to surrender inhibitions enough to be thoroughly and frequently satisfied himself.

Which I imagine you are already working on and will enjoy more and more as time goes on. In promotion of that most fun of all learning
experiences, this site is rather remarkable for offering all gender combinations. If you like women, there they are. If you like watching men
with women, you can learn a lot about how it's done. And eventually, you might even discover a surprising number of manly men who get
off enthusiastically with men as well. And if some of them are cocksuckers, or if some "straits" bottom for pay because they can't get it up
to top, then they are still having enough fun.

Some women can't suck cock because they don't have a clue what it feels like. Men know. And changing positions certainly increases the
range of sexual skills a man brings to whomever he penetrates. The whole process by which a hugely hung male star prepares an asshole
to take his monster AND ENJOY IT, is not all that different from how any woman would want to be treated. And all the fingering and munching
and tonguing Down South until a woman is begging for every inch has the same result-- making the act both easy and comfortable, both
fun and mutually rewarding.

If it is not, the woman won't go with that jerk again, and the male or female sphincter will not be offered to that partner again. I do love seeing
ordinary folk in action and on hidden cams where we get a glimpse of what most people never get to see or know, but I also love watching
skilled professionals taking each other on in a way that lets them both get off and makes the bottom look good AND be completely pleasured.

There is a sexual history of the world that has mostly not been talked about or studied, but now there is massive documentation of
the range of options that end with men ejaculating. That is a valuable resource and a public service. Also, men have long made arrangements
and accommodations to take care of their needs. That is why there are gloryholes at truck stops and adult bookstores. Those are also good
options for someone more randy than terrified, and if you cannot find a buddy to lend a hand, perhaps a hot mouth will be useful, even if
you have to tell yrself it belongs to the moaning, choking woman on a video you watch at the same time.

Btw - Not clear from the subject line whether you mean to say you are a little dude who is bi-curious or a dude who is a little bit bi-curious.
Either way, I hope you find all the fun you want and do not hold back because of some kind of guilt or mental terror, whatever you
go for.

Just discovered this group, and this topic in particular. Great photos. So I went to look up "Unlimited Muscle" in Torrent Search
and only found one of these original videos is on this site. Seems like it would be a natural fit, and like the early Bobby Garcia
enlisted US Marines that caused such a fuss at the time, they need to be preserved for the historic record.

No, I'm not kidding. And of course my father read Playboy only for the articles. Why do you ask? Not everyone finds those
military encounters as incendiary as I do, but even if this is not material you would choose to study repeatedly, it's one more
set of documents in male/male relations and gay/straight relations. Not only are you looking at men just being – in public --
who they are, but someone was interested enough in looking that he made money from selling these. Whether he enjoyed
his work or not, he knew people who would like to look, too.

Like physique magazines half a century ago, they were an important part of an ongoing process. Apart from the peeping aspect,
which has its fans, there is a legitimate case to be made, just as early AMG photos are carefully preserved, studied, and
even brought back onto the market in various ways.

Just because this line of thought may be self-serving doesn't mean the notion itself should be dismissed out of hand. If there
are other sources, I would love to know.

Guess you have not seen Spartacus, then? Massive gore, lots of nudity, and some some really hot M/M couples.
Also, naked Manu Bennett, currently one of the numerous macho male hunks on "Arrow."