Posts made by Popper

Impossible to say, for certain equal or above 0.95

Why is Xenu always thinking we are after his butt ?

Until a Moderator not replying to your forum posts approves them. Some are specialized in this task, like others do some forum sections and others again more torrent approval or helpdesk …

@xenu:

… All the other "reasons" did not make sense. THAT does. ...

I don't remember to have given "reasons" why the system is like it is, but only different views to your argumentation too change it, respectively "corrections" where they were simply wrong. That does not want to mean that I am against more rewarding of original torrent posters, in opposite.

Nevertheless, the way you ask for it, makes me wonder why it must be up to the system to be changed for that, when a simple behaviour change of downloader granting better seed bonus points could achieve the same. It is not the low share ratio or lack of spare Seed Bonus Points preventing from it. Many members got good share ratio beyond multiples of 1.000 together with thousands of Seed Bonus Points unused.

Perhaps it must be made more clear that the average share ratio without Seed Bonus effect is 1.000 and values closely around it are already to be considered as good to excellent.

@xenu:

i dont know how my point that uploaders should get bonus points for uploading a posted torrent keeps being ignored. …

It is not ignored. It has well been noticed, I am quite sure by all the Staff.

@xenu:

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instead bonus points are awarded for seeding torrents no one is leeching, and for uploading photos to someone else's post. ...

Awarding seed bonus points for seeding torrents no one is currently downloading is not useless. First it is a way to get new members out of the first low ratio warning or taken download rights if made the wrong choice, secondly seeding old torrents is important to built up an as big base to exchanges as it is done here. For the picture bonus, there are many voices to make it zero and personally I don't oppose to it.

@xenu:

… agreed that in case someone wants to download a torrent that has as many seeders as some of the ones i have done, it is easy, but to keep seeding along with dozens or hundreds of other seeders with nil leechers seems pointless: ...

All thse are looking like torrents in their third season season as explained here http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=2690.msg69393#msg69393 . You need to wait for them being in the forth season … long time ago I've made the test, seeding only old torrents above 3 month, having many of those assured a permanent group of 10 active uploading data, filling my bandwidth. That was as well in a discussion topic about ratio issues.

@xenu:

…. my uploaded seeding has more life, but still they will be dead in a couple days: ...

Yep, 2nd season …

@xenu:

… i believe it was on another thread that a moderator suggested he be PM-ed if his green light was on because he could be conducting other business elsewhere on the site and did not always check the unposted torrent link or page where they go...i wont say WHO because i dont want them scolded. ...

That offer is only binding for him  ;D and if it is the one I think, he is no longer very active on torrent approval, thus will not be disturbed on that task by such requests.
Frankly, I hate not to answer such requests, but objectively it is slowing down approval and therefore are contra productive. Only if you think everything is right and are seeding for more than 12 hours, you should consider to ask. I do invite as well first time uploader to ask in case of doubts. Personally i am always prepared to help to get the first upload finished. it is the most difficult.

@xenu:

… the whole reason i started this was because without new uploads this site would die. ...

Fully agree to that. Perversely the (IMHO too high above 250 GB downloaded) minimum ratio requirements and taken download rights push many members to do a first upload, which else would never ever going through that "pain", which can become a pleasure.

@xenu:

… maybe the real reason is simply the extra work it would entail for the staff to create such a bonus?

if that is the case i understand totally- you have a lot to do already for such few people. and i know even fewer do the majority of it, since i look at the staff link to gauge how long my torrents might have to wait to be posted finally. …

That is the very reason. We got only one Administrator part time working on changes to the site and tracker. Moderators do not have access to it (and that is better). There are things on the to do list since I am Moderator. That is why I spoke about being "limited" or mgr in many posts say he agrees but we shall not keep our breath until changes happen because he can't give any forecast of an implementation.

Last changes were done about privacy and rather as a hotfix. I guess now it is worked on to make it in a proper way.

@xenu:

i should have asked someone better-liked to post this opinion, since my point is being nit-picked instead of heard with an open mind.
no one will just come out and say "we don't think uploaders should get special benefits."
i saw in another old post similar to this one where a mod said in sincerity that at least they are not being "charged" with the file size as a download.
and now another is saying not to add photos until it's approved- which usually takes several hours and by the time it finally gets approved i am far, far away.
pm-ing the mods with a green light does NOT work- probably has the opposite effect of "now i am gonna let it sit"
i will never be given auto-upload status now for bringing up issues i take exception to so much recently…lol
it was having a warning about being banned from downloading that did it.
i gave up creating torrents because of this, and am only doing it now to try to get ahead so i dont have to again.
if there were more incentive there might be more torrents on here instead of about a page or 2 a day, sometimes not that much.
and i am NOT against the fast speed seeders at all! i am only pointing out they sort of hog the brief period a torrent is active
.5 seed bonus an hour for seeding even when you are not connected to folks is sooooo boring.

The way the posts are written, they just ask for nit-picking  ;D

That about upload without download can be me, I've expressed a similar thing in my answer to "… If you would have to download first you would have to upload much more to see the same effect. ..."

PM-ing Moderators doesn't help. In the best case it is ignored, in the worst answered. I say this, because reading and answering a PM, report or Helpdesk request, while working as Moderator on torrent approval is very disturbing. Such PMs slow down approval and therefore they shall be ignored, but they should have no more negative effect than the reading time and lost concentration on another to the concerned torrent's approval.

Auto Approval privilege depends rather on your new torrent up-load activity. I hope as well you noticed that you got a positive reputation point from in on one of your posts in this series (but not this, to negative minded).

On your own new torrents, the Seed Bonus Points you get are depending mostly on the generosity of the downloading members. It can be well more than the 0.5 points per hour...

You are turning against the wrong people. The Moderators here strive to make it a better place and have to life with many limits. If you don't believe, apply to become Moderator and see the things from our side. >:D

Do you know cumeaternc's first time uploader programme http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=8444.0 and my French upload promotion programme http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=11365.msg45112#msg45112?

Note that the list for the French rewards isn't updated since October 2010, but points are continued to be distributed.

Besides giving seed bonus points for torrents I like, often I give extra seed bonus points to members in need and doing efforts to get out of taken download rights or low ratio warning. don't expect me to spread them all over like a sprinkler.

For the statistic the given away seed bonus points

cumeaternc - 15300.000
Uwe - 18328.000

To note that both of us have more than 200 torrent each alive and we need to earn the seed bonus points, too.

@underlvr:

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What's inconsistent is that nearly every e-book compilation torrent on the site has some duplicates and yet they still get approved or not deleted.

Thanks for telling us. I'll double my vigilance  :police: on e-books. Please report such torrents.

@xenu:

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no one will probably even read this except the moderator, so i am wasting my energy being upset.

At least one other member not part of the Staff was reading it and has replied …

@xenu:

… now bring on the moderators to tell me they disagree.... ...

Basically I **don'**t disagree with you, WE LOVE UPLOADER, but as you are asking for it, here some corrections and comments on the pure technical aspects:

@xenu:

i wondered why people who upload do not get a seed bonus at all. …

First you get 0.5 Seed Bonus Points / hour of seeding your new torrent. So no Seed Bonus Points at all is just technically wrong.
I think it is not about what you speak. So let's me answer with a question: Why shall the site / system give an original uploader Seed Bonus Points when the community of downloader here is too stingy to give some of theirs and even to lazy to click the "Thank You!" button ?

@xenu:

… the people who complete and then have faster seed get more benefit than the person who uploads in the first place! ...

That is the very nature of the bittorrent file sharing protocol. Even if all peers in the swarm would have the same speed than the original upload, he will not get (significant) more upload than with fast speeder in the swarm.

@xenu:

… so do people who add photos! ...

As you indicate yourself, adding pictures is making work. We have reduced the reward in order to dissuade the "Picture Seed Bonus whores" (sorry, take the expression as irony , sacasm). If original uploader are thinking they really need each SBP, they can upload only with one mandatory picture and add 9 pictures after approval.

@xenu:

…so do people who have the file, seed it, but don't take the time to upload, find text and photos, and have to stop seeding anything else to wait for the mods to approve or delete... ...

We campaign against early jumping-on, within the initial upload phase, after which the jumping-on doesn't do a harm to the original poster any more.

Yes, uploading a new own torrent is a much bigger bit of "work" than one could think never having done it. I agree with you fully on that and speak out of experience (200+ torrents, some without having got a single SBP). This said is directed to the ears of people downloading and never uploading an own new torrent to be more thank full.

@xenu:

… i have raised my ratio from under .69 to .74 and i have been uploading stuff and it makes only a little difference- 4 uploaded torrents has brought me up from .69 to .74....hardly seems worth it to upload when there are people with super speed who get all the seed... ...

Don't be mislead by the felt low effect in ratio. I'd like say it is rather the opposite and proofs the efficiency of posting own new torrents. The effect is not that big, because of the high absolute values of your upload and download. If you would have to download first you would have to upload much more to see the same effect.

@xenu:

… seems like uploading a brand new torrent could get more credit than it's getting... ...

Rather like you wish it gets …

@underlvr:

…, I would like to see GT.ru focus on gay artists/musicians as their music usually can't be found on other trackers.  None of Ari Gold's nor Mark Weigel's music is on the tracker.  Hell, even Elton John only has one torrent here (yes, I know, you can find his music elsewhere).

The selection depends on the members uploading torrents.

@underlvr:

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Ballard1:  another thing to do, is go through your list of uploaded torrents periodically to see if any of them have a leecher with no seeder.  One of the reasons that I do this is that, as far as I can tell, reseed requests NEVER go to the original uploader just to those on the snatch list.  One more thing to do is check if any of your uploads are dead.  These don't show up under the default browse/search.  Seeding these dead torrents will enable them to be visible.  I have torrents from nearly two years ago that are downloaded ever so often.  If someone wants one of these torrents and you are the only seeder, then you will receive full credit.  Of course, if they think that it is taking too long and press the reseed button, you might be overwhelmed with faster seeders.

That is about how I proceed, too.

Actually I start once a week my torrents and see the number of seeds and leecher, then stop those seed by others and stopping the others once seen seed successively over the week.

There are torrents I've uploaded on which I uploaded over the years more than 10 times their file size, some even above 30 … That is in the late phase of a torrent life.

@ballard1:

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I have a 2MB line and can get upload speed between 100 and 120Kb.
...

That is the best upload for ADSL and most users in the country I life dream to get it. Quite a lot have to life with 512kb/s down, 128kb/s up, which means 16 KB/s up in the best case, many even can't get that. I life in Western Europe …

@ballard1:

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Sure, I can upload a complete 1 GB movie and this helps my ratio but before I even have finished uploading there are downloaders with fast lines who have reached a ratio on my upload of 3.0 or even 6.0 before I even finish uploading.
Meaning: I receive 1GB towards my ratio for the movie, the other guy receives 3GB to 6GB towards his ratio but he didn't do anything at all except downloading and leaving his upload pipe open!
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That is the ingenious thing of the bit torrent protocol, it mutuals all swarm member's upload capacity to make them getting pieces in parallel instead of needing to queue to the source.
It doesn't hurt more than marginal your uploaded data on a torrent you post having such peer as you show later in the swarm. Anyway assuming having not activated initial seeding, until the swarm tips over from only the original uploader being a seed to many users rapidly becoming a seed, the upload will be only around 1.3 times the file size (by my experience) or just nearly 1.0 only with initial seeding activated.

Rather than making the fast uploader being a "bad" guy, we should profit from them offering us their bandwidth. The way I personally see to achieve that is to lower the maximum ratio requirements.

If you look to the early part of a torrent's life, only the first half of the integration of users multiplied by upload rate ill gain, the other half will loose share ratio. (This is a simplification, I know). So in that part the average share ratio will be 0.5 … , which makes me to think that should be the maximum of the share ratio requirement.

All above are pure technical considerations and I can understand your frustration. The before mentioned "Uploader" user class is an attempt to at laest give a moral recognition to the new torrent contributors, but it is unfortunately not advancing

You may not believe, but often on my many uploads, I make initially just 1.05 ratio and get no seed bonus points gifted (which disappoints me most, because I use my SBP to re-distribute them to members in need and doing efforts to get out on their own, besides my French upload promotion programme, I need to earn SBP like other users), though technically my line is able to do 2 MBytes/s upload (actually 6, but limited by my settings to 2).

BTW: I get slowly my share ratio down

Yes, but still: No duplicates … :crazy2:

Actually not, because the Rules say:

Are there specials rules for uploading collections?

Yes, there are.

Of course all of our upload rules (forbidden content, no duplicates…) do apply also for collections. We just ask for some special rules to make our work to approve collections a bit more easy so also collections can be approved in a reasonable time.

Please watch the following conditions for uploading collections:

* Limit the size of your collection to 2 GB. Exceptions to this rule are complete TV seasons and(or site rips.
    * Break your collection down into parts if it exceeds 2GB, upload those parts as separate torrents.
      Use the same main title with different part names (collection title - part 1, collection title - part 2… or a date like Parties Oct/2007, Parties Nov/2007...).
    * Do not upload collections of full length films.
    * List the file names contained within your collection in the Torrent-Description.
    * No external compressed (zip, rar, ...) video files. Neither single videos nor in collections!

I have marked the two interesting parts in bold red. This was made clear with that user.

385 kbit/s = 48,125 KBytes/s

Du solltest dein Upload auf ca. 80% des maximalen Uploads einstellen also 40 KB/s, sonst verstopft dein Upload die Leitung für Rückmeldungen das Download-Pakete gut empfangen wurden, was dann denn Download behindert.

All members got 4 invites by default, so there should be no need for you to exchange Seed Bonus Points for an extra invite.

In addition only Power User can actually make use of invites and you are not yet Power User.

If I am not mistaken, registration of new accounts is currently open. Even if not, usually it is open the first day of a month, just tomorrow. So tell your friend to try to register tomorrow.

@pigtucket:

test - just seeing if my avatar shows up

The forum is a site on its own, embedded into the main site. You've got a second Profile page for the forum. You have to define there your avatar, too, so it shows up here. Look for the smaller blue bar with links below the gray "Welcome back: …" box.

IMHO that has not to be in a torrent description and the design is illustrating a wrong perspective: the poor uploader begging in front of a rich guy.

Original torrent poster are not poor and should not need to beg: It is them the generous who give and share, the downloader should gratefully give their (small) obolus to thank them, without being asked for.

Then the downloader are not a single rich, but multiple members, who have to earn their Seed Bonus Points through long seeding or getting thanks on their own upload, they may be as destitute or even more than the original poster

@underlvr:

Saw this in a torrent description today:  "Please help me with seedbonus, my DL rights are taken. Thanxxx"  What offended me the most about it is that he has upload credit of over 400 GB so he should understand the ratio rules.  Also, he has been given over 5000 points but has only given out 50 points.  He has uploaded nearly 20 torrents so he knows how to increase his ratio and is only 12 GB in the hole.  One would only need to upload 4-5 1GB torrents to satisfy "The Rationator".

It might be that the member you speak about went a long way to get close to have the download rights back. I guess you can't see when his download rights were disabled ?

Perhaps you could give me by PM a link to that torrent in question?

At least that member DOES upload new own torrents, which makes him positively outstanding from the masses of the members. Not asking for SBP would even be better IMHO.

Note that when I get across SBP requests visible in the listing, I edit the descriptions so they don't appear any more visible in the list, but only in the description.

To invite Friends to join at times the registration is not open. Only Power User can use them.

You aren't Power User, so they are currently useless for you. Anyway each user gets initially 4 invites, which he can use when getting the Power User status.