This happens if tracker.gaytorrent.ru is used for the main site.

make sure to use currently tracker.gtru.net , else it is needed  to login each time you switch between the main site (torrent lists) and the forum.

Me too, multiple times.

A little off subject: make sure to use currently tracker.gtru.net , else it is needed  to login each time you switch between the main site (torrent lists) and the forum.

You are right to blame us for your Report still not having been handled.

The objective criteria I've used to approve it, is the statement about that movie on IMDb. the individual appreciation is if that is enough as no "gay" or "homosexual" etc. … key words are present (I saw that when approving that torrent and was hesitating, but...)

As being involved as the approver, I have only copied that statement into the description and not further handled that Report.

Remember, we don't got a copy of the movie.

@twinkletoes:

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When the following torrent was posted
http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=117296
I wrote to the staff, saying that it had NO gay content, just some male nudity.
The torrent was still allowed.

Yes, it was me who decided to leave it on because of what is said on IMDb about this movie and I added to the description.

Surreal tale of a 14 year-old boy who dreams of escaping the loneliness from an unhappy home & sexual abuse (from his mother's boyfriend who is also his school swimming coach). One day his back mysteriously sprouts feathers and he can metaphorically fly away from it all. Written by Len Massaar

If we would take it off, most certainly the uploader or seeders will shout on us, why it wasn't gay enough. Whatever we do with grey zone movies, it will be wrong.

To better appreciate a movie, we would need to have watched it. That is just impossible. Still it would be an individual appreciation.

@thangcuoi:

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Please don't let a few bad apple upset the cart. The AA people who made those mistake should have been warn or get their AA privilege revoke (at least temporary).
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Often AA privilege members are quite upset when we revoke that privilege (which can be re-earned). On the question of an upload being gay enough or not it might just lead to a long polemic without exit: to much grey zone of appreciation. Because of that we don't allow basically Gay Interest movies. We just can't define objective criteria what makes a movie special Gay Interest and isn't just interesting much gays or is of much interest to others, too.

On uploading banned studio torrents (movies or pictures), there is no discussion and prior warning.

I went a step further and edited the title  :cheesy2:

J'accorde toujours les points, mais à la cause d'un autre projet de long haleine, n'arrive pas à la mise-à-jour de la liste des torrents francophone qui ont profité.

Donc, n'obliez pas d'uploader  :cheers:

Attention: en vue de la transformation de GayTorrent.ru, je vais arrêter ce programme des points bonus fin 2012.

PS.: Bien-sûr, protégé comme il le demande l'Hadopi (par exemple en utilisant un proxy ou VPN)

@twinkletoes:

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How can any film whose IMdB Plot keywords include
Coming Out & Gay Character & Homosexuality & Gay Straight Relations & Gay Club
NOT be considered sufficiently gay?
....

Perhaps, because they are among more than 50 other and the gayness of the character "Bob" is not a substantial element of the movie …

I was concidering to move it back, but please don't forget:

In addition this seems to be a high budget mainstream production from 19 November 2008 (France), which falls still for a few months under the "Blockbuster"  (successful movie for GayThemed niche) rule … For that i would disapprove it for now.

As for the movie you linked to, it seems to had got wrongly tagged initially by the French site popular allocinéma.fr > hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0vC0XbEkSc

This torrent is still available in the ModsOnly category to allow members starting the download to finish it.

When i saw it in that section, I was wondering why it is there (no note added to the description or title), but it became more obvious with the report …

When looking to IMdB, "Bob" the gay seems to be an important character. IMdB is givung quite a few "gay" keywords (click "See more" there):
Coming Out
Gay Character
Homosexuality
Male Nudity
Gay Straight Relations
Male Rear Nudity
Gay Club

but in a long list of other keywords. There is a certain chance that I would approve such upload, but not sure, 50% chance.

So for me this is the type of movie we are always in the dilemma to allow or not  and we have an internal cry for help how to decide.
Believe us, we are not happy about that situation of being unable to clean clear cut gay non gay decisions. I am for example wondering for what the "Spartacus" TV series have their place here. No gays, just male bodies … AFAIK

In addition this seems to be a high budget mainstream production from 19 November 2008 (France), which falls still for a few months under the "Blockbuster"  (successful movie for GayThemed niche) rule ... For that i would disapprove it for now.

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A member made the following comment:

Ya i was gonna say… you should make just a complete separate section for movies!  that might be pretty sweet to have that within the confines of gaytorrent.... but im guessing thats already been discussed. 

That will not happen, this is not a general interest forum and tracker, but well established in the Gay(LBT for Themed Movies) niche. Of course, gays are sharing general interest and to find these, is valid what F00F said:

Non-gay related movies goes on public trackers or other invite-only sites.

I guess every member here knows such tracker and forums/blogs 

We bump up randomly (actually not that random) old torrents to the top of the list.
This is done by manually modifying the upload approval date. There should be a staff remark at the beginning of the description been added. Nevertheless I've seen some bumped without such remark recently …

Look to the torrent id in the browser URL box and you'll see the low number.

Where you find the settings to avoid uploaded torrents stopping seeding, click on the triangeles to expand groups of setting:

This is a known issue with Vuze/Azureus out of the box setting and our tracker having Scrape switched off.

Use these settings instead:
Tools –> Options...  –> Queue –> Seeding –> First Priority –> A share ratio under [1:1], set the rest to ignore and uncheck Torrents with 0 Peers

Tools –> Options… –> Queue –> Seeding –> Ignore Rules –> uncheck Ignore torrents with 0 peers

as well the following setting:
Tools –> Options…  –> Queue –> Seeding –> Auto Starting –> Auto Start all completed torrents with 0 peers selected in my options.

That option should make new torrents start.

15 gleichzeitige Torrents ist das höchste Limit. Mehr geht nicht, es sei denn Du spendest oder wirst Moderator (dann 20).

Falls Du etwas Englisch lesen kannst von den "Rules"

Torrent Limits: Downloading of more than one torrent at a time is limited by the following parameters:

Total uploaded amount is < 5 GB and your ratio is:
< 0.750 = 3 torrents
< 1.000 = 4 torrents

1.000 = 5 torrents

Total uploaded amount is < 10 GB and your ratio is:
< 0.350 = 3 torrents
< 0.750 = 4 torrents
< 1.000 = 5 torrents

1.000 = 6 torrents

Total uploaded amount is < 25 GB and your ratio is:
< 0.350 = 3 torrents
< 0.750 = 5 torrents
< 1.000 = 6 torrents

1.000 = 10 torrents

The above limitations remain in effect for all accounts with User Status and a total uploaded amount greater than 40 GB. Once Power User status has been achieved, the following limitations go into effect:

Total uploaded amount is > 25 GB and your ratio is:
< 0.750 = 7 torrents
< 1.000 = 8 torrents
> 1.000 = 15 torrents

Users who have donated to the site are limited to 20 torrents at one time.

@thedude99:

I understand the issue of having only 1 seeder and downloading very slow.  I've experienced it also. But remember this is not the only website people may be dl/ul from.  We may have many torrents active from different websites. There is a button on the page to request reseed or more seeders.

I was about to suggest PMing the seeder and asking them to increase the speed but I think they changed the site and made all uploaders anonymous. That's too bad.  If you sent me a PM asking nicely to increase the speed I would have no problem doing it.

I've brought up this example two members in the context of the bonus system discussion. Of course I could PM them, but since my computer and µTorrent are running anyway daily, that isn't a major issue for me. I've sent as well a re-seed request, but no response (this to low ratio issues …). If they respond positively to a PM, it will just take away upload rate from the others. As said upon, currently I get my fair share. Anyway my personal download is not the point here.

There are two things making me tick a little:
If members are uploading / downloading on other places, that is the their problem to manage the share of bandwidth. In no way the GayTorrent.ru bonus system should compensate for members prefer to share elsewhere. That can't be the purpose of a bonus system.

The given examples IMHO just proof:
There must be a limit of number of torrents rewarded with Seed Bonus Points (if totally flat or a certain number, is another question) or it would spoil seeding. Just to make the calculation: our current system is worth 1.43 KBytes/s, times 100 of the examples makes up for 143 KBytes/s. That would mean more than the best ADSL2+ line can do ! My guess of usual reached real upload rates by most members are in the 20 to 80 KBytes/s rage.

To make it clear: The two members of my example are GOOD MEMBERS, they keep torrents alive and steady seed. For that they earn 5% to 7% extra to their upload by the current seed bonus system. Not that bad, isn't it?
What they could do better is the traffic management, by changed torrent client settings. That would be the top.

As already indicated, there will be changes. When and which exactly, I don't know, it will be a surprise for me like to all members. Only I know something is boiling.

As anecdote, fitting well into what raphjd indicated: I am currently trying to download two old torrent, each of them got 1 seed left only (different). Both are dropping in steady at 1 KByte/s and know after 2 weeks (the computer being 100 hours online a week) the download. is about 60% complete of both, total file size of each is below 1 GByte.

Of course the uploader merit a thank you for keeping them alive and seeding them in the first place !

However they manage their bandwidth not in the best way, at least it seem so. Both are seeding around 100 torrents out of which about 20, respectively 30 got leecher. The upload rates of these users are around 20 and 35 KBytes/s. So I get my fair share.

Now just try to thing about the seed bonus rewarding and how such seeding should be rewarded …

Personally that example brings me to some ideas, but certainly complex to implement and I fear we would need a more powerful server to calculate the attribution:

• Give 0.5 Seed Bonus Points per hour only for 1 torrent without any condition
• Give 0.05 Seed Bonus Points per hour up to additional 10 torrents which are only seed by that 1 seeder and have currently no leecher (kept alive)

This potentially doubles the Seed Bonus Points and my experience tells me it will almost double it (~99%)

Just a question: You got a tool to calibrate the colour of your screen?

Well, i think what was tried to point out is, that there are always some (by far not all) members to use any system, including bonus point systems in a way which is not intended, but benefit to them, so understandable from that point of view.

I think here especially to members having an internet access with a data volume limit and high expenses if it is exceeded.  I read that such schemes are quite usual in Canada or were in Belgium for example. (Note: I am not at all saying all Canadians or Belgians do anything bad). These members may try to optimise their volume quota by using it as much as possible for downloading and get upload through bonus points only, without really seeding sensible data volumes. These will seed more than the one needed to collect the multiple points (if installed such way), but the torrents they keep alive may become real "zombies", if such a seed is the last and only seed.

Members with flat rate have nearly no reason to limit their upload rate of course, except they need it for other share ratio controlled trackers 

Proxies for seeding are possible, except if too many use the same at the same time (our system got a limit of connections from the same IP).

What is not seen well are VPN and proxies to login, because this is a means used by double account creators for share ratio cheating.

Somehow I've got the impression that my first reply was a little misinterpreted.

• Nothing is fixed into granite, IMHO the system needs to surveyed and adapted if necessary. You can be sure the staff reads the different suggestions and keeps them in mind. (Off course that doesn't mean the system will be changed as per every requester's demand. Changes to the system are rare and take time …)

• The points in the first list are the advantages of the current system

• No conclusion was made by me on purpose, to keep this open. Anyway, I can't speak here for all staff but gave rather my personal points of view

I agree that the requester does not need SBP for himself, his statistics show it clearly.

A bonus system can not replace the need of real upload. Only real upload can be downloaded. If the bonus is too generous, it will be possible to keep the individual share ratios high, without need to upload real data. Then what will happen is, that downloads will slow down, because of missing uploads.

My experience on a friendly competition gay torrent site, having every torrent being freeleech after 3 months and no minimum ratio requirement is, that when I tried to download those to complete my collections, they where not seed (many even not after having sent re-seed requests) or slowly. That doesn't mean I've got nothing and on some the original uploader did re-seed only for me (a big thank you to them), but it was overall quite frustrating and I gave up on most after some months. Here it is just the opposite: members are "forced" to seed and keep ratio. ... perhaps a little too much ... possible.

It is right that it won't be unfair to give for each torrent seed even without upload, SBP. True. But is that the purpose of the SBP system? Not sure. We would have to reduce the SBP per torrent drastically, in view of members seeding 50, 100, 1000 torrents (yes, there are many like that) and that will hurt starters with few more than a flat credit of SBP.

Then, the more not currently downloaded torrents a member seeds in "standby", the higher the chance one of them is picked by a member to download and "bingo": real data upload improves the share ratio. In the abyss of this forum, you find indications that I had been possible to reach seeding only torrents of over 3 months age an average above 100KBytes/s. That is more than most members internet access physically allows.

There will be adaptations to the seed bonus system, but a massive inflation of them, certainly not.

Du hast sicher schon verschiedene Torrents mit Bildern in denen "Sorry no pictures allowed from this Studio" steht gesehen. Such z.B. nach Torrents von Catalina, Eurocreme oder All Worlds Video.

Das heisst übersetzt "Leider sind von diesem Studio keine Bilder erlaubt". Der Grund ist, dass die betreffenden Rechteinhaber (Studio oder Distributor) Ihr Copyright geltend gemacht haben und uns verbieten diese Bilder zu benutzen.

A reflection if the current seed bonus system needs adaptations is legitimate, I'd like nevertheless through in some thoughts:

a) What makes you downloading here, is real upload of other members, not exchanged Seed Bonus Points. Easy SBP will be contra productive.

b) Seed Bonus Points were created as a help for real slow liners (< 10KBytes/s) and as incentive to keep available torrents without downloaders until one downloader joins the swarm

c) A seeded torrent, once downloaded, need to be seed at a reasonable speed, seeding many many torrents and then provide crappy upload rates is not well

d) The current SBP system can be used as to get out of low ratio only at starts times, as such it helps on the learning curve, but nobody should count on it to keep ratio. At best exchange rate, it is worth only 1.43 KBytes/s

Some thoughts to user behaviours:

1. Most members even give a thank you (button click), so 12 SBP given is already a very big gift. If every downloader would give 1 SBP, that will sum up for much, but remain low for each downloader

2. There are many users collecting SBP and never exchanging them, so we don't miss SBP in the system. They need just to be used. Of course this collecting can have valid reasons: not knowing to exchange, saving for bad times, wanting to show to be a good seeder …