@raphjd said in CDC now says Vaccinated are the ones spreading the new Delta variant.:
@bi4smooth
Lots of people got C-19 and never knew it, unless now you are gonna claim that Fauci and the CDC are liars., but only on this topic.
This applies to both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Hell, I could have had it 45 times before I was privileged enough to be allowed to get the shots. I could have had it 45 times since I got the vaccine.
Only a fool doesn't believe that Bat Lady, Fauci and Bill Gate's Eco-Health created C-19 from the samples Bat Lady collected from that mine in 2009 after all the miners got sick.
I do agree about the Indian variant being a mutated version of the one created in the lab.
Well, depending on who you ask (and there isn't much evidence to back up either story - the Chinese have pretty well scorched the Earth trying to make sure we never know... which arguably might lean (even heavily) towards the man-made-accidental-release theory), the original COVID-19 was a man-made variant, or a nature-made variant... of a virus that Mother Nature put here first.
Still, regardless of the origin of the FIRST one, the Alpha, Beta, Gamma, & Delta variants were all NATURE made... and you can't turn off Mother Nature, and she's a real bitch when it comes to making living things stronger/faster/better!
And now, there's a new Lambda variant - they don't know much about it yet, but theoretically it could make Delta (which is the one responsible for the re-ignition of the pandemic) look like childs-play. (It could theoretically also be more like the others: Original, Alpha, Beta, etc...) Only time will tell.
What we DO know is that Mother Nature is still hard at work trying to create a COVID-19 that successfully defends itself against the immune responses generated by the COVID-19 vaccines... and WHEN she succeeds, we start the vaccine development process all over again - and until we get new vaccines against these new viruses, we'll be helpless (and dying).
In the meantime, I mask up when I'm in public... because, whether I'm vaxxed up or not, I don't want this bug in me! And I live in a hot-spot filled with "it's a freedom issue" idiots and assholes. What can I say: we're home to "Florida Man" and it's showing!
One last thing: studies have shown that immunity from the original COVID-19 infection (derived from getting it - and, presumably, surviving it) does little to protect you against the Delta variant... your body's NATURAL immune response from that strain doesn't recognize the Delta variant as a different verse to the same song. Likewise the immunity derived from the AZ & J&J vaccines (which are based on COVID-19 DNA) are significantly reduced against the Delta variant.
However, immunity derived from the mRNA vaccines seems to be still significantly effective against Delta - albeit not AS effective as against the original - but that is possibly because the Delta is so much more aggressive and virulent than the original to begin with...
Regardless, the exciting thing about all of this is the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines and their ability to trigger our immune systems to attack specific proteins... this could be used to treat HIV (its original intended target), some cancers, possibly even sickle-cell and leukemia!
The research is new - and therefore, we shouldn't get our hopes up too much... but the efficacy of the mRNA against COVID-19 was expected to be in the 60-70% range... they never DREAMED it'd be in the 95-97% range (what it was against the original COVID-19 strain)....
I've been saying for several years now: my grandchildren are going to live in wonderful (or possibly frightening) times: we're unlocking medicine and material science unlike any other time in human history... used properly, we could see many diseases and ailments completely wiped out! Used improperly, we could have new "tools of warfare" that will scare the pants off of you!
We already live in interesting times (Chinese curse being the origin of that statement)... and they're not looking like they're going to get boring any time soon!
That said, I think we should think about storing more than plant DNA in those arctic vaults... we should start storing significant human knowledge up there. IMHO, we're going to eventually kill ourselves - the human race will extinguish itself completely, or at least knock ourselves back to the stone-age. We should leave something for the "next thing" to get some of our technology: tools, materials - maybe not nuclear physics tho LOL!
For a reference, read Larry Niven's old SciFi book: The Mote in God's Eye... a really good read, if you ask me! (advances in material science could include a frictionless toilet! LOL)
Correction:
The Mote in God's Eye was a collaboration between Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle (
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