Posts made by jaroonn

@raphjd said in Happy Pride!:

The paper referenced is from Nov 2022. That's nearly 3 years for them to change their tune.

Changed their tune? I never heard Fauci or any other scientist say that the vaccine would definitely stop the spread of or prevent Covid, or any other kind of corona virus. In fact, they said the opposite because corona viruses are like influenza viruses; they can be mitigated not eliminated. I heard others say it, or claimed it had been said. I heard anti-vaxxers talk about "heard immunity" which also doesn't work and is why we have flu "seasons." I personally argued with people who were saying all kinds of crazy shit. But Fauci...no. If I'm wrong, just show me where he said it.

@raphjd Did you read it? It talks about what Fauci actually said as opposed to what others claimed he said.

I really have nothing more to say beyond that.

@raphjd No. I never saw any of those because they don't exist. Listen to what Fauci said, not what Hannity and Tucker said he said.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-mRNA-vaccine-fauci-387418337013

@raphjd I am not confused about different types of viruses and different immuno-responses. You are confusing what virologist were saying as opposed to what trolls, pundits and politicians on both sides were. I don't listen to the latter.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/conversations/understanding-vacc-work.html

As I stated before, Americans seem to have decided to politicize everything. There are no rational people in charge, and there is no hope for meaningful progress until there are. I am very pessimistic.

@raphjd said in Happy Pride!:

Science shows (even long before covid) that vaccines never, ever prevent catching and spreading viruses.

Polio? Small pox? Mumps? There is a long list.

As for the rest of it, I know you think all liberals are the Devil's spawn whose sole purpose is to bring about Armageddon, so whatever.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2023-05/Ipsos LGBT%2B Pride 2023 Global Survey Report - rev.pdf

@raphjd No. If you look at my original reply to you, I stated that they do not. I think they were hoping they would, but it didn't work out that way. There is a lot of evidence, however, that they boosted the body's ability to fight off the virus, and this seems to supported by the dramatic decrease in hospitalizations and deaths after people started getting vaccinated.

And it was never "a lie by the left." Even Fox News had vaccine mandates. It was early days and no one was certain about anything. It takes time for scientists to discover the truth, but everyone was prematurely jumping in and trying to gain political points from the situation. It was one of the biggest shit shows I'd ever witnessed....on both sides.

Don't get me wrong. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. But medicine often works and we all live longer lives because of it.

@blablarg18 Citing an outlying anecdote of bad medical practice committed by one doctor is as fallacious as saying that because thousands of priests are pedophiles then all are. There are so many problems with your using this as an example of anything but criminal behavior, and in fact would support the concept that gender-identification is not related to biological sex at all. An individual who is cis male is not an example of one that is not. You do that see that, right?

You seriously need to hone your scientific method skills.

@raphjd I would say that the second part of your post shows how the hard-right intentionally fails to understand science to suit their agenda.

@blablarg18 You are just....silly.

@blablarg18 I hear myself fine. The Catholic church rakes in billions and protects kids by covering up years of abuse from pedophile priests.

Read the news sometime.

@blablarg18 @blablarg18 More blathering idiocy from him. Sorry....you.

There is scientific evidence for biological sex but not for gender identity. True. Do show me the data that disproves that statement.

I really don't give a fuck what you think about anything. Truly. Got you pegged. Don't care.

@raphjd This is why you can't win arguments. What does sex/gender have to do with Covid? Apples and oranges. But since you brought it up: no one said that the vaccine would prevent you from getting or spreading Covid. Fox said they said that. What they said is it would help prevent you from dying from Covid, and as the death rated plummeted after people started getting jabbed, it seems to have worked.

But that is not the point here. Biological sex is a thing, scientifically. Gender-identification is not, at least not yet as neurobiology is in it's infancy. But whether you want to believe it exists or not is irrelevant. Your beliefs are not facts.

I would also be careful. The people attacking Trans people hard are not friends of homosexuals. I wonder if they think we are "natural"? They don't. The Right has an agenda in their "war on woke" and gay marriage and gay rights are in their sights. Listen to Matt Walsh. They are starting with Trans because they see them as an easy target. But they have much more in store. Notice which books are being banned in Florida schools. Wake up.

@raphjd There is scientific data about biological sex but none about gender identification. You do know there is a difference, right?

@blablarg18 He tries to refute an actual scientific study with....a meme. Says it all.

I realize you are handicapped with your limited cognitive skills. But it's not your fault. God is not fair.

@blablarg18 Of course, Catholics have no financial interest in people believing their bullshit. Right?

Your ignorance of the modern Ukraine state in unsurprisingly nil.

I don't need to hear from you. I can just listen to Fox, OAN, Newsmax or any other of the right-wing conspiracy mouthpieces that you parrot word for word. You are in the silo. Nothing more to say.

@blablarg18 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/10/e4261/6604653

Any academic study with results that doesn't fit your narrative is not valid but those that do are.

You quote The Witherspoon institute. The Witherspoon Institute is a Princeton, New Jersey-based nonprofit organization with ties to the Family Research Council and Roman Catholic traditionalists. So Big Pharma has a vested interest in this but conservative Catholics don't?
Roman Catholics? Great record protecting children, by the way. Superstitious hypocrites.

Neither of us are scientists, so......

I've shit turds with more critical thinking skills than you have.

@blablarg18 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/10/e4261/6604653

@blablarg18 Any trans person I have ever talked to or read about or seen interviewed are thrilled to have transitioned. Are there those who later regret it? Maybe. But they are the minority. There only struggle which can lead to massive stress is trying to get acceptance and validation from small-minded bigots like yourself.

And just give up trying to question my intelligence. You sound absurd.