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    Posts made by cteavin

    • RE: Do we need a word like "cis" or "cis gender"?

      @JohnAllenson:

      The unnamed norm is treated as if it were 'normal' while a term is needed for deviance.  Creating a term for both allows for them to be treated as varience within a range of normal.

      Here's what bugs me. There are all kinds of dysmorphia that we classify as mental illness. Two that stand out in my mind are the people who feel they should be disabled going so far as to amputate limbs or blind themselves. Another is the person who feels they are an animal. With both, scientists can identify parts of the brain where there's a deviance; others can point to trauma to explain the behavior. Both arguments exist for transsexual people, though more and more people are searching for the biological and trying to exclude the environment.

      If you're going to put transsexual on one end of a continuum then you'd need to have those other dysphorias on their own continuums as well, otherwise transexual vis a vie cis is an artificial characteristic our societies are selecting for cultivation.

      Another example comes to mind, the push to recognize sexual attraction to children as a sexual orientation. Recognizing it as legitimate creates another dichotomy with the potential of a continuum as an attempt to explain why someone is attracted to people of different ages.

      All of this seems wrong.

      The distinction between cis and trans seems arbitrary.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Something Trump is wrong about..

      @raphjd:

      "A few notable case" is just bullshit.

      There were more cases, but those 2 really hit home why the death penalty sucks ass and needed to go.

      Illinois stopped the death penalty due to the shear number of innocent men on death row.

      Your "logic" is WHO GIVES A FUCK HOW MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE WE EXECUTE, KILL 'EM ALL, GOD DAMNED IT.  KILL 'EM ALL.

      The more you say, the more I'm leaning toward the thought (cringe) of hoping you and your ilk get what you are willing to do to others, wrongful imprisonment and/or execution.  You'd sing a different tune if it happened to you.

      Here's a case where you can use statistics. Are you saying 100% of those executed in the UK were innocent? 50%? 25%? Answer me this, if any one of those people were released and murdered another someone else, how is it different than sending an innocent man to the chair?

      I don't know what the numbers are. What I know is that you are willing to condemn innocent people in the real world to die by repeat offenders. I hope you and your ilk get what you are willing to do to others. I think you'll sing a different tune when your loved one is raped, maimed, murdered by these people you release.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Something Trump is wrong about..

      @raphjd:

      For clarity;  4th of July 1976, not 76 rapes on the 4th of July.

      It disgust me when I hear people like you and feminists saying there's nothing wrong with sending innocent people to prison.

      Though I said it before, I'll say it again here: You've mischaracterised my argument.

      You're not consistent. You're angry that in the UK you can't take a stand against the brown people who are involved in sex trafficking. How did this happen? Because in 80's and 90's some officers made some big fuck ups ending up in the police being called racist. A few mistakes and misjudgments and the police are now no longer able to do their work to protect women from sex trafficking for fear of offending in the UK. Sound familiar?

      The death penalty worked fine in the UK until there were a few notable fuck ups that gained media attention. People took the cause and deemed all executions an abomination. Boom. No more capital punishment.

      Those two cases are rooted in the same thinking: People focused on the extremes and on the mean. If people did focus on the average, then there'd be no need for stupid bathroom laws to protect the tranny that can't pass or the mentally ill man who thinks he's a she. Want me to go on because a lot of what SJWs fight for sit on the extremes.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: "Planned Parenthood"?

      @raphjd:

      OK, so you are pro death in all cases.   You support abortion and executing innocent people.   At least you are consistent, you believe in killing those who have done nothing wrong.

      I've been told I'm a candid SOB. Don't mischaracterize my idea. I support a system in which the guilty are locked up even if that means there are innocent people in the mix. If I want to mischaracterise you, I could say that you're for setting the guilt free to prey upon the innocent, but that isn't what you mean, is it?

      Speaking of misrepresenting…

      @raphjd:

      Not just federal taxes, but any tax money.

      I'm not against women having these services, but why should I pay for it?  I'm mostly "pro choice".

      Why PP?   As we saw in the previously mentioned video, vaginalists admit that these services are available elsewhere.   So why do we specifically need PP?

      You don't pay for PP. Your taxes go into a collective pool of money that pays for a lot of things. When people say they pay for PP or abortion, the arguments get personal. Think back to Kim Davis. She was a cog in the machine but let her ego dictate what the office she held stood for.

      You and I live as one member of a nation and there are a lot of people who have said that these services are necessary for them. I haven't interest enough in the issue to look into it, so I'll take them at their word. I only see that people are pissed about abortion, which the Supreme Court upheld as a right. Fire up the stirrups and prime the morning after pills and let's cull next years crop of bad mothers 'n' fathers.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: "Planned Parenthood"?

      @raphjd:

      Since abortions are such a tiny part of what PP does (feminist narrative), then we can get rid of it and not make a difference.

      The truth is, feminist don't protest about losing "the pill" if PP is defunded.   They only protest about losing the ability to have abortion on demand.

      There's a video of Congressman Trey Gowdy questioning some vaginalist about PP and defunding it.   She admits that birth control is done through countless venues; clinics, PP, and whatnot.   In the end, she admits we only need PP to provide abortions, since all the other bits are done, and done well, in other venues.

      The question about PP is about Federal funding. If our taxes are used to fund abortion, then does that violate the religious freedoms of people whose religion says abortion is a sin punishable by their god? There might be other people out there, raphjd might be one of them, that are just against giving women access to x, y, z which PP provides.

      Myself, there are enough shitty parents out there. I'm all for opening up a drive-through abortion clinic if it'll get the babies out of people who have no business raising a child. I'm all for making all forms of birth control free if it'll prevent some of the horror stories we see kids growing up in. But I'm one of 350,000,000 people. I have to be ready to compromise. What that compromise should be is the discussion.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • Who are you crushing on? Share a pic and tell us why.

      This is just an excuse to learn more about each other and see some sexy people.

      I have had a long-standing crush on Seth Myers since his first days at Saturday Night Live – humor is one of the sexiest things about a man. I'm also hardcore infatuated with his replacement Colin Jost (just look at those lips!). I'll add a fictional character, too. Takano Seiji from Sekai ichi no Hatsukoi. He's the only animated character I've ever crushed on. The voice actor, the way he behaves in the anime/manga...  :love:

      So, share who you're crushing on and add a pic. The button to do so is below. Just click the Additional Options tab on the bottom left of this window.

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      posted in Chit Chat
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    • RE: Something Trump is wrong about..

      @raphjd:

      I might agree with your "just lock them all up" preference, if the state didn't do illegal things and also prevent people from investigating the case properly.   If we start locking corrupt DAs, police, etc, etc, then your stance would have more "juice".

      DAs, police and others actively fight against DNA testing even when a private group is willing to pay for it.    Take a time machine back to when GWB first ran for President as Gov of Texas.    There was a man scheduled to be executed and GWB wouldn't delay the execution to wait for the DNA results.   The man was executed on scheduled.   About 3 weeks later the DNA results cleared him of the crime.   GWB maintained that he never executed a guilty man because LEGALLY the man was still "guilty" when he was executed.

      I've told the story of the 4th of July 76 rapes in my home town.

      Do you think law enforcement is growing more or less corrupt as time passes? A trip back in time through cinema will show you clearly that 1) people feared the death penalty and 2) the cops were corrupt, especially in the south. The previous generations of civil rights lawyers have neutered the Death Penalty and corruption in the police force isn't anywhere near what it was during Gotham times.

      Is it perfect? No. But it's worlds better than it had been and with body cams and other new technologies, it's getting better, not worse.

      As for DNA. John Oliver did a report on it showing how unreliable it is. That's not a secret. If you pay attention to the news you'll see two kinds of reporting, one where someone is wrongly convicted through DNA and the other where they are exonerated. In the end, people are tried and prosecuted on circumstantial evidence and DNA is just one tool to that end. Eliminate this method of deciding if one is guilty or not and you'll eliminate the corruption in the bureaucracy, too.

      To your other point, you're not going to like it, but you can find exceptions to anything. I've called these the extremes and they're not useful in arguments.

      @raphjd:

      Black people make up 13% of the US population.
      Black people commit 56% of the murders in the US and 54% of all violent crimes in the US. 
      Blacks make up 44% of cop killers.  I can't find a stat for wounding cops by race. 
      Blacks are 26% of those shot (wounded or killed) by police.

      What do you think about cholesterol? Good or bad? How about salt intake? What is the ideal diet? How about what causes cancer?

      All these questions are answered weekly in the press using new sets of data gathered from yet another person reinterpreting statistics. The old adage is true: You can find anything you want in the numbers, especially when lay people are interpreting them.

      Another analogy is The Bible. In the hands of a learned priest or scholar, the books within have clear contextual meanings. Put those same books in the hand of the average person and all hell breaks loose. This is the danger of you and I using statistical evidence to back up a given claim like what you're citing. If I were inclined I could easily go online and pull numbers to back up literally anything I wanted to. It's less frustrating to speak broadly and generally to uncover the truths in these situations.

      Let me say that a very different way. We've all the potential to be Laci Green.

      @raphjd:

      Prior to welfare, blacks had 8% to 10% higher marriage rates than whites.  Blacks had the 2nd highest marriage rates after far east Asians.   Now blacks have by far the worst marriage rates in the US.

      The stories I've heard to explain this are that The War on Drugs incarcerated a disproportionate number of black men for minor crimes. Concurrent to that, black women were told they could get welfare if they weren't married. If these are both true then the Democrats and Republicans helped destabilize black families.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Possible Planet 9\. And 10 ?

      @JohnAllenson:

      The ways that they detect planets around other stars is either by tiny fluctuations in movement (gravity from a planet is moving the star a little) or fluctuations in brightness (when a planet passes between the star and us.)

      Distant bodies in our solar system take so long to travel in their orbits that we might be trying to figure things out with only 1% of the information.  It's fascinating how little of space we've actually looked at.

      Keep talking like this and I'm going to think you're flirting with me.  ;D

      posted in Religion & Philosophy
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    • RE: Are religious people more moral?

      @hylas:

      Are religious people really saying the only thing keeping them from murdering and raping is that some book or scroll told them not to? And not because they can see that those are evidently, obviously evil things to do? Because that's what they seem to be implying when they say that atheists are less moral. Scary thought, especially when you think about what kinds of evil some religious texts do endorse. For example, the bible endorses slavery.

      The Bible (Koran, Torah) don't endorse slavery. They record the history of slavery and the thinking of their day which, if you're talking about the slavery brought into the Americas, was later used to endorse/justify what the Europeans were doing to other human beings through the slave trade.

      Maybe Flozen and others will disagree but my readings and experience with religion (I was born into a Protestant and Catholic split home) never taught me that we don't kill, rape, cheat because the Bible/God said not to. The essence of the faiths I grew up around said that God put within us the ability to know right from wrong and the devils (through their means) sway us from what we know is right. To not believe in God is to be deceived by The Satan (originally known as The Adversary) and so we're prone to continue to make bad decisions including rape, murder, deception, yada, yada.

      posted in Religion & Philosophy
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    • RE: "The person below me" game.

      Nope. Never a bastard. Rarely a cunt.

      TPBM is a positive thinker!  :cheers:

      posted in Forum Games
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    • RE: Should I or shouldn't I? (a game)

      Yeah, I should. Maybe tonight.

      You should go on a diet.

      posted in Forum Games
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    • RE: Do we need a word like "cis" or "cis gender"?

      @JohnAllenson:

      Fun fact - heterosexual used to mean gay men since their sexuality was 'other'.  There was no term for people who were attracted to the 'opposite sex' since it was viewed as being so normal it didn't need a definition.

      Did you mistype heterosexual for homosexual? I'd never heard of this before so I did some Googling but couldn't find anything. What I did find is that for most of human history we didn't think about heterosexuality but when we did we thought of sex, the procreative function then later sexuality, the mode of sex for pleasure, not procreation. According to what I read heterosexuality had to jump the first hoop to land upon the second.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Are religious people more moral?

      @flozen:

      @cteavin:

      I think this title question would be better written as either "Are religious people better able to exist in our modern science-oriented society?" or "Are religious people more socially responsible than non-believers?". Maybe even, "Are religious people able to follow judicial law and social moors better than the non-religious?".

      That's all great food for thought.  As far as the part i boldfaced, wouldn't religious people be less likely to do the "best" job in following judicial law and social moors, as they would claim spiritual beliefs take precedence when there's a conflict?  Isn't that what occurred with the horrible anti-gay postal clerk, Kim Davis?

      A bit of the end-game in that kerfuffle:
      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/07/21/kim-davis-kentucky-hook-legal-fees-gay-marriage-fight/500408001/

      I would think so.

      I see several possible outcomes:

      • Religious people who obey secular laws over religious ones meaning they aren't really religious but in name/identity. (New Yorkers, Azerbaijani .)

      • Religious people who thwart judicial/secular laws in favor of religion (Kim Davis, Cults, Saudi Arabia, Iran).

      • People who claim to be religious and bend with the wind (most of humanity).

      • Non-religious people who take to a secular cause with religious fervor to force upon others their ideas (SJWs, Civil Rights Movement, Iconoclasts).

      • Non-religious people who flow rudderless and create their own spiritual replacements (modern Wiccans, African-American this, White-Nationalist that).

      From what I see most people don't really believe in the Gods or religions they claim to, at least not the big three in the modern West. In and around Asia and the Middle East things get more complicated. But to the type you bolded, I think the majority of Western people can and do try to follow secular law first and as a whole we do a pretty good job. Do you see something different?

      posted in Religion & Philosophy
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    • RE: THIS or THAT: the game

      Barb as in Barbara Godon.  :cheers:

      Gotham or Metropolis?

      posted in Forum Games
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    • RE: "The person below me" game.

      I love freshly baked Chocolate Chip Cookies, barring that, not so much. 😉

      TPBM knows how to bake.

      posted in Forum Games
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    • RE: "Planned Parenthood"?

      @Frederick:

      Hey, hey, hey!

      One, there's never a need to throw such an insult.  :spank:
      There's a human being on the other end of the keyboard, you know.  :spank2:

      My comment earned me two spankings!  So it was worth it!   :cheers:

      No, no, dear. You get the third emoji, the scolding. ICC gets a double pounding.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: "Planned Parenthood"?

      @Frederick:

      @Icc:

      Youre not very smart. You think you are but no. Just more bullshit.

      Someone fairly new to this forum has often chastised me for being harsh with the moonbats.  I hope he sees your comments Icc.. because your comments explain the need to treat you moonbats as insects that need to be squashed.  There is no point in trying to have a constructive, rational exchange with someone like yourself who has their bowels emptying out their head instead of their ass.

      Hey, hey, hey!

      One, ICC there's never a need to throw such an insult.  :spank:
      There's a human being on the other end of the keyboard, you know.  :spank2:
      And two, Fred there's no need to "squash" someone for commenting like a child. Be the adult in the situation.  :crazy2:

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: Something Trump is wrong about..

      @Frederick:

      It's not secret that cops often arrest white people just to make it seem like they are not picking on blacks.    "Billy Bo Bob! Yew better go throw a cracker or two in the can before you go splitting the skull of another ******!"

      This has nothing to do with anything. You can find exceptions, or extremes, to literally anything. The continuum remains.

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • Do we need a word like "cis" or "cis gender"?

      I woke up a bit ago, sat down to read the online news with my first few cups of caffeine with a gorgeous blue sky visible from my window – ready to take on the day! -- when my eyes are assaulted with someone ranting about "cisgender" this and that.

      Talk about killing the mood.

      I think I'm one step out of touch with western thinking on this, or am I? Is there really a need to distinguish cis from trans? What am I missing?

      posted in Politics & Debate
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    • RE: "The person below me" game.

      I loved her quips but she was a terrible person, so I'm not sure how to answer.  :cheesy2:

      TPBM loved the film version of Les Miserables? (I saw it five times in IMAX, cried every time.)

      posted in Forum Games
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