@bc22:
In some parts of the world, it can be offensive to call someone out on any form of competency. Perhaps if one must, maybe a better phrase could be something like Culturally Aware.
That's an excellent point…a much better term.
@bc22:
In some parts of the world, it can be offensive to call someone out on any form of competency. Perhaps if one must, maybe a better phrase could be something like Culturally Aware.
That's an excellent point…a much better term.
Now, I will say I don't think it's important that Hitchcock films are available on gay torrent sites because they are so widely available elsewhere. What is important to have on gay torrent sites is gay-themed films with little distribution and availability elsewhere. If someone wants to torrent Rope (or RuPaul's Drag Race, for that matter), there are dozens of torrent sites to choose from.
I beg to differ a bit…the reason I come to a gay-themed torrent site is precisely so I don't have to go elsewhere for movies and shows featuring gay themes or characters...this way, everything is in one place. Regardless whether any of the downloads can be found elsewhere. That's the entire point of having gay themed torrent sites (of which I belong to four, including this one).
Good move, 2222…
Many Hitchcock films have had subtle (and not-so-subtle) homoerotic subtext and themes, whether or not someone agrees with that evaluation.
As Bear said, much has been written about (in particular) Rope, Strangers On A Train, and Psycho and even North By Northwest (Martin Landau's character of Leonard is an obsessed homosexual who is "devoted" to James Mason). Just on the homoerotic subtext and implied themes, all of those movies I just mentioned all belong here. They've also all been written about in numerous books on gay cinema over the years.
@2222 - I agree…this entire discussion has gotten way out of line here, and (IMHO) specifically because of one particular person's excessive rantings.
1, As you said...the Comments in a torrent are the spot for someone to ask the Uploader how an upload qualifies as being gay-valid to belong here, if the reason hasn't been made clear in the Description (which I always try to do), or isn't obvious by the poster or screenshots.
2, Once again I have to state that Hitchcock's Rope belongs here. Period. The two main characters are as gay as they could possibly be for a late 40's movie...they're certainly prissy enough. The movie has also always been included in any book I've ever read on the subject of the history of gay cinema, particularly in legendary author Vito Russo's seminal classic The Celluloid Closet.
3. Once again...I say if someone has doubts or questions (as I do sometimes)...TRY using Google and looking a movie up for the gay references or characters. Most of the time, you will find the explanation there (although not always 100% of the time). If you can't find an answer as to the gay relevance, then politely ask the Uploader in the Comments as to the gay relevance.
Does Call me by your name and moonlight count? I mean for gay themed movies, since that's the entire theme of each of the films.
Seriously? Of course both of those count…they're about gay characters! :cheesy2: :cheers: :jiz:
It would be a lot easier if an Uploader…as I already stated and explained...would simply say why a movie qualifies as a Themed Movie.
Then there's also Google (which way too many don't seem to bother using), which I use many times when trying to defend someone who uploads a movie to which others are questioning the "gayness" for validation here, and I post what I find, either as a quote or a link. If people would simply use an easy Google (or other search engine) search, the answer as to whether something belongs here could likely be solved most of the time. People wouldn't have to question the validity of an upload.
For crying out loud, I've seen where someone posts a comment actually questioning "what is gay?" about a torrent when it's already been made clear in either the description or screenshots. READ the damn description before commenting, people!
Problem solved (regardless whether others continue to argue and debate the validity). As I also said before, sometimes it can be apples and oranges…one person's opinion rather than a factual proof or validation.
So how about: Themed Movies are only allowed if a majority of GTRU users agree that they are gay enough to belong here.
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, for the simple reason…as I just stated...people can still argue or debate the worthiness of an upload. What I explained above would be simpler and it would remove a lot of drama and (IMHO) pointless discussion here in Forums where none is really needed (sometimes, anyway).
If no peers connected then seeding is not possible…
I was just about to comment that a torrent has to have peers/leechers connected or the torrent is not going to seed/upload any data.
That goes without saying.
many of those movies from Judy Garland (for example) are so widely and easily found on hundreds of other sites
agreed, so as many other gay interest movie, like I said above there are plenty other torrent sites that provide that kind of stuffs.
but I don't see any real reason for something like Meet Me In St. Louis to be here
I will look this one up, thanks.
Actually, in my experience the only other sites that really carry much of gay interest movies are gay-specific torrent sites. I really don't see much on non-gay specific sites unless it's a mainstream movie.
As far as Judy Garland…I only mention Meet Me In St. Louis (great movie, as are many of her other films) because it just doesn't register on a gay interest level with me (although I love the movie), just as some of her other movies like The Harvey Girls (Angela Lansbury is also in that one), A Child Is Waiting, In The Good Old Summertime, The Pirate, all the movies she made with Mickey Rooney, etc. also similarly don't register as much on a gay level.
Others, like A Star Is Born, Summer Stock, I Could Go On Singing, etc. (other titles escape me for the moment) have a much stronger gay pull because of how some of those more tragically mirror her own life, and part of Judy's gay appeal IS the tragedy surrounding her in her life.
Once again, all the movies with Doris Day and Rock Hudson belong here for various reasons (a couple of those movies do have some gay-specific or strongly gay-suggestive characters).
Just to add: I do think the "culturally competent" comment here was uncalled for and somewhat rude. What this all comes down to is really a matter of individual interpretation, depending on how one looks at it...everything isn't really completely cut-and-dried.
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- Movies and shows that are essential to the history of drag are also allowed. This would include classics with Judy Garland, Peggy Lee, Doris Day, etc. There are not many of these, and they are beloved of drag queens all the world over. We should not delete drag classics from a site named "gaytorrents"!I agree with this and we can make an exception to this type of classic movie.
I can understand the reasoning behind that choice, but I would also question it only because so many of those movies from Judy Garland (for example) are so widely and easily found on hundreds of other sites. The Wizard of Oz being a very notable exception for being here, but I don't see any real reason for something like Meet Me In St. Louis to be here.
Some of Doris Day's movies, such as the ones with Rock Hudson, have some very specific gay subtexts or outright gay jokes which would make them fun to be here (there's even some of her movies which were featured in The Celluloid Closet documentary), but other Doris movies like The Man Who Knew Too Much (the Hitchcock film) have no real reason to be here. Again, the ones with Rock Hudson are ones I would agree that they should be here.
What I think should be a requirement for not only Themed Movies and TV Episodes (possibly for some other areas also?) is the Uploader should explain in the Description WHY something qualifies as having gay content or gay themes. Often they will also simply post a torrent with NO Description at all…which tells downloaders absolutely nothing useful.
I usually try to do that in whatever I upload unless it's blatantly obvious (such as either something in the Description, or screenshots of two men kissing or in bed, etc.). I usually post something like "The gay interest?", followed by the reason why...even if it's only one character or one scene in the movie or tv episode, or a particular interesting or strong homoerotic content.
This would also help avoid people having to ASK "What is the gay interest or relevancy here?" (which I often have to do in the Comments of a torrent if the Uploader has not explained why something qualifies for being here).
Yes, but if the old file is not bumped, or is sitting hidden in the "dead" zone, then everyone loses.
Ideally, the new uploader would be made aware of the OLD torrent which contains the same files, and sent the link to that old torrent.. so the new uploader could download the old torrent, rename his files accordingly, and point that old torrent to the files already on his drive. That way, the new uploader would be a new seeder, and the file would be bumped, and everyone would be happy.
Well, in theory, but that doesn't always work…the "new" dupe torrent would not only have to be the precise file size as far as bytes size-wise, but it can also depend on how the rip was done and also which program was used to rip it. I've tried such a thing and it has never really worked for me…if the dupe torrent was ripped with a different program, then it can more likely be impossible to simply use it to seed the older torrent. Even a variation of settings in the ripping program can cause indiscernible differences which make it impossible to use it to seed the old one...even if the file size is precisely the same, believe it or not.
If, however, the dupe torrent happens to be the exact same upload which someone either got somewhere else, or downloaded from the old torrent and simply renamed it, then it can usually work. Simple renaming of a video rip file, or a torrent folder for a pack or full disc, doesn't seem to make much difference in seeding issues for re-seeding on an older torrent.
My thought is, depending on how long an older torrent has been dead, as someone else said in this thread the new torrent should be the one to be kept and the older one deleted, simply because (as someone else said) unless there is at least one person who can seed on the old one, the old torrent may never be able to be re-seeded if no one still has the original files or files. If the old one has been dead long enough, that should be deleted and the new one kept.
I don't know if it could be done here by whomever handles the script for this site, but I've seen other sites where, when someone goes to upload a torrent and has filled in the information for their torrent upload, the site system automatically searches and checks the site to try and find a match for an identical torrent, and if it does, it gives an alert notice to the uploader.
Some people are being very lazy about Descriptions lately. I like to see (as do the Rules specify) something telling WHAT a movie is about (at least in the non-porn categories) instead of this useless and tiresome "some very hot guys" or "man on man action".
That's pointless and utterly useless, and doesn't follow the uploading Rules either.
TELL people what a movie is about, DON'T just describe the "action" or other such useless nonsense.
What about the simple fact that some people simply have knee-jerk reactions…no matter how polite or tactful the commenter is trying to be…or simply don't like being corrected, or having something wrong or incorrect being pointed out to them, no matter (once again) how tactful or nice the commenter is trying to be…and they simply fly off the handle, regardless whether they are the ones who are wrong?
A lot of people are like that on the internet for some reason. Some simply do not like being correct no matter how wrong they are or how nice the commenter tries to be. Frankly, IMHO, people like that have issues they need to deal with in their real lives.
Just to point out regarding the increased font size I use…which someone has actually bitched to me about in a comment awhile back, claiming I was throwing around some kind of attitude that I had to make my comment stand out with the larger font...Keep in mind that some of us, even wearing glasses, have trouble reading a small font and have to use a larger font size.
Try and keep that in mind, by the way, instead of complaining about it.
I belong to 3 or 4 gay torrent sites, and haven't been able to get into this one for a few days now…anyone know if this site is gone for good?
This is all that comes up now.
Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.
We can’t connect to the server at x-ite.me.
If that address is correct, here are three other things you can try:
Try again later.
Check your network connection.
If you are connected but behind a firewall, check that Firefox has permission to access the Web.
That's actually ONLY the recent news listing…and it's already been replaced/superceded by something else.
What CAN and should be removed are those damn snowflakes...this is the middle of February.
Sadly some users on here use the rating system based on if they like the content and not the actual quality of the torrent inself which makes the rating system useless.
Well, that's how the rating system SHOULD be used. What if people rated not on whether an upload itself was good but rather only on the quality of the rip? That's pointless. Better to rate based on whether a person likes it or not…then a potential downloader can say "Oh, a lot of people liked it...must be good". Rather than rating based on, let's say the quality of a rip ("Oh, great quality rip")...then someone downloads it only to find out the movie simply SUCKS.