@geobear40 said in Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rules Mask Mandate For School Children Is Illegal:

@bi4smooth
You are not following the science.

Children have a zero percent chance of dying from Covid 19.

FALSE

The studies that prove anything less then a N95 mask does nothing to stop the virus.

FALSE

The socialization and mental health harm to children forced to wear masks.

NOT SHOWN (I can't say FALSE here, because there haven't been any real studies... what HAS been shown is that the remote-learning experiment of 2020 was a colossal failure - few children were able to learn much of anything over zoom classrooms, and the vast majority essentially lost the year.)

IMHO, if the local area is in a COVID outbreak / hotzone, the local schools and/or school board should be allowed to require students and staff to wear masks.

The point of agreement here is that STATE-WIDE mandates - EITHER WAY : either requiring masks or not allowing masks - is state government overreach, and NATIONAL mask mandates are overreach by an order of magnitude worse!

@lololulu19 said in NYC Dem councilwoman is racist against latinos:

@geobear40 here's an idea.. require a social security number to vote. and that number is on the ballot. That would not only verify that the person was a citizen, but also prevent people from voting more than once.. and having their votes counted more than once.

You apparently are not aware that Social Security cards are NOT identification cards, that they're easily faked, and that many non-US Citizens have SSN-like numbers. Furthermore, LOTS of people who DO have Social Security cards are NOT allowed to vote!

Maybe, just maybe, we should have something that's special for voting... you know, an ID card just for voting! You could print people's party affiliation, and what districts they lived in - you know, for Congress, the state legislature, and even local districts! We could call it a VOTER ID CARD

In case you couldn't TASTE the sarcasm, at least here in Florida, I've had one for 40 years now! And it's exactly as I described above...

@raphjd said in Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rules Mask Mandate For School Children Is Illegal:

https://djhjmedia.com/rich/pennsylvania-supreme-court-rules-mask-mandate-for-school-children-is-illegal/

It will be interesting to see the written opinions...

IMHO: The state-wide mask mandates are overreach, but the local ones are not. If the virus is "run amok" in a community, they should have the power and authority to mandate children wear masks (or close the schools) as an "order of protection"... But unless you're talking about Rhode Island, STATES are too big (and the whole country is by an order of magnitude too big) to be making these decisions...

When the Trump Administration shut down the economy in the early days of the pandemic, we saw large areas of the country - almost untouched, as-yet, by COVID-19 - having to shut down and "hide" from a threat that wasn't there yet! It was a knee-jerk decision - and not one I opposed at the time! I fully admit to hindsight being 20-20!

But I believe that this early overreaction is, in part, what led much of rural America to believe that COVID-19 wasn't so bad, or was a HOAX to begin with!

I'm a believer in empowering local governments to do what's right for their own communities, with larger jurisdictions coming into play (like states and the federal government) when coordination and uniformity are required. Masks in schools does not require that...

Thus, I am just as opposed to my State's Governor's Executive Order prohibiting mask mandates as I am of the PA Governor's order requiring them!

In my view, local School Boards need to be making these calls - and in some areas, individual school Principals! Most States are FAR TOO BIG to be making these sweeping COVID response requirements, when different communities are seeing different situations!

Finally: this opinion should not be conflated with my belief that certain people can, and should, be required to be vaccinated (including COVID-19), depending on many factors - including their jobs!

@geobear40 said in Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rules Mask Mandate For School Children Is Illegal:

@bi4smooth
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/47-studies-confirm-inefectiveness-of-masks-for-covid-and-32-more-confirm-their-negative-health-effects/

https://healthpolicy.usc.edu/article/mandatory-masking-of-school-children-is-a-bad-idea/

So my statements are not false at best the science is not settled.

Again you put way to much trust in the Government and Lord Fauci

The CONSENSUS of Scientists is that the Earth is round and orbits the Sun... however, there are SOME SCIENTISTS who insist that the Earth is flat and that the Sun circles (not orbits) the Earth...

The CONSENSUS of Scientists is that masks DO WORK to slow the spread of aerated, respiratory viruses - like COVID-19. The permeability of the mask is of little consequence, as the point (work) of the mask isn't to block the virus itself, but to block the aeration/air flow and the water droplets that CARRY the virus.

I consider the flat-earth question settled, but admit that there are some that will never - EVER - be convinced.

I consider the mask issue settled, but admit that there are some (like yourself) that will never - EVER - be convinced.

@geobear40 said in Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rules Mask Mandate For School Children Is Illegal:

@bi4smooth
Being straight or gay is not a "lifestyle" and if you think that you are still pretending to be something and not being yourself.

Your vocabulary is insufficient here... perhaps you're confusing "lifestyle" with "orientation" or "desire"??? I don't know - but:

A "lifestyle" is how you choose to live... and that means it's a way of BEHAVING. I am trying to live a more active lifestyle as part of my "healthy living" initiative... that means I choose to do more active things: like walking and riding my new bicycle!

When I have been in relationships (including a 15-year marriage to one) with women, I have chosen to only have sex with them! That's a monogamous, straight, lifestyle! Straight in that I only had sex with women, or more grammatically correct: a woman! THAT woman! It does NOT mean I lost my attraction to men - or other women, for that matter - only that I choose to not act on those desires while I'm in a relationship!

Likewise, when I have been (as I am currently) in a relationship with a man, I chose (and currently choose) to only have sex with him! That's a monogamous, gay, lifestyle! Gay in that I only had (have) sex with men (him)! It doesn't mean I have lost my attraction to women - or to other men, for that matter - only that I choose to not act on those desires while I'm in this relationship!

There have been other times in my life that I've chosen to be monogamous... as well as times I have chosen NOT to be... But never - since the age of 12, and I first came to terms with the fact that I was neither gay nor straight - have I deluded myself into thinking my attraction to other people could be controlled or changed. This is the way "my wiring" works, and I'm fine with it.

My sexual desires (fantasies) do not change when I'm in a relationship - only my chosen behavior does! If you behave the same in a relationship as you did before the relationship, then that's you - and you should be you. But I'm glad I AM NOT dating you!

Or, perhaps you are of the misguided belief that my ex-wife didn't know I was pan-sexual? Before we even dated, much less had sex, got married, had kids, adopted more kids, and later got divorced!

Or, perhaps you thought I somehow hid my NINE CHILDREN and their mother from my former fiance? Or even my current boyfriend?

Or, maybe you, as so many others - ESPECIALLY GAY MEN, in my personal experience - want to force my sexual orientation into one of your neat & tidy little labels.

Mind you - I'm not saying I can (or do) choose to be straight or gay... it's not a "binary" equation!

I AM pansexual: my physical attraction goes either way, and my emotional attraction to someone does not depend on their sexual equipment! I have no difficulty being satisfied - sexually and emotionally - by a woman (as evidenced by a 15-year faithful marriage to one!); nor do I have any difficulty doing the same with a man (as evidenced by the 5-year relationship with a man - one that ended in tragedy, not divorce).

But more importantly, I am describing ME, and ONLY ME!

I do not have the HUBRIS (or gall!) to tell others what THEY should do! While I may be perfectly fine spending 15 years with a woman, and forsaking all others - including (especially?) men - while I was in that marriage; that doesn't mean YOU would (or should) be!
I might be equally fine trading in a wife for a husband... but that doesn't mean YOU should (or could) be!
I might be fine living monogamously when I'm in a relationship! But, that doesn't mean YOU should (or have to) be!

Maybe that is why you think of the government as your parent telling you how you should live your life.

You've got the wrong straw-man, my friend... I am no friend of big-government! As I've stated in another thread, I'm just as much against the NY Governor mandating masks in her State as I am against the FL Governor prohibiting mask requirements in his State! The pandemic's effects are not evenly distributed - and the best place to make decisions like that is in the LOCAL governments!

If NYC (or Jackonville, FL) is having a COVID-19 outbreak, they should be allowed to enact a local mask mandate, and to lift it when the danger passes. But the folks in Lake Placid (or Lake Panasoffkee) shouldn't have to mask up because there is an outbreak hundreds of miles away!

Now, if your stance is that we shouldn't have any kind of public-health response to COVID-19 - just let people do what they want to do - well, that's just anarchy... and I'm not an anarchist. We DO need SOME rules, otherwise society breaks down.

Again, my personally: I'd rather local mask mandates on an as-needed basis than a national (or state) wide vaccine mandate! But the vaccine question takes us back to the "your private employer is not the same as the government" argument.

The Government shouldn't be able to force everyone to get a vaccine, but your employer should have that right - even if your employer is the Government!

Want simpler answers? Go back to 2nd Grade! This is real-world stuff... this shit gets complicated FAST!

@raphjd said in Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rules Mask Mandate For School Children Is Illegal:

@bi4smooth

You believe that businesses have rights and people don't unless businesses (sometimes the government too) allow them to.

Thank you, once again @raphjd for that lucid and coherent explanation of what other people think... your clairvoyant abilities continue to astound us (or is that, confound us?)

What ever would I do in life, were it not for your clarifying my own thoughts for me!

Here's an idea: the next time you want to start a sentence with the words "you think" or "you believe" - think again! Erase that part and start over...

@raphjd said in Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rules Mask Mandate For School Children Is Illegal:

@bi4smooth

Hey dumbass, you can watch the news on YouTube.

You can also watch videos of people discussing news articles/videos.

You can also watch Congress on YouTube.

You can watch police press conferences on YouTube.

But, be a cuntish Ms Feng Feng, as always.

yes, but you can also find videos of dogs and cats sleeping together (sleeping - get your mind out of the gutter) and how-to videos on how to masturbate a horse (for breeding, you filthy-minded whore!)

The point isn't that you can't find videos on YouTube, but that YouTube isn't -by itself- a source for verified news... um, in other words, it's not a news source (just a video source).

@lololulu19 said in Biden now OWNS the Covid Virus!:

@geobear40 The main issues now are... the 2020 vaccines are useless against the new strains of Covid.. so all the vaccinations given so far.. are meaningless.

False - to the point of absurdity!

The vaccines are providing about 70% protection against hospitalization (severe illness) from Omicron, with "natural immunity" (from prior COVID-19 infection) providing about 50% protection....

It is insane to give people the false idea that masks protect them, when it has been established that masks do more harm than good.

False - beyond absurdity!

In a separate thread I posted a list of more than a dozen links - not to news outlets, or political sites - but medical journals from multiple countries showing quite the opposite: masks of all kinds offer substantial (but far from total) protection from aerated COVID-19 infection.

One thing that should be done is to take the temperatures of everybody crossing a border or going on a trip that will take several hours for several reasons:
If cooped up next to someone for several hours who is sick - no matter what the disease - there is a high risk of getting that disease.
The people who are sick with a high temperature are not only at high risk for giving their disease to others, but also at high risk of being infected by others. For instance.. an unspoken reason why cruise ships are not more popular than they are is because they are incubators for disease. You are cramped in with thousands of other people for several days or even weeks, and you are inundated with their germs in the shared pools, dining rooms, restrooms, etc. The sick people don't have the luxury of staying away from other people when they are on a cruise ship.

That's a lot to unpack, but I must agree with final conclusion: now is NOT a good time to go on a cruise!

I haven't been sick from a disease in over 20 years. I have not been vaccinated, and I've never had Covid. My immune system is strong because I'm not a smoker nor drug abuser nor prescription drug user either. All these people popping pills for their anxiety, depression and mental problems are compromising their immune systems.

Statistical samples of 1 are always definitive! I'm glad you've been healthy, but your good fortunes (on many levels) hardly apply to large populations...

@geobear40

Why is it people "like you" care so much that women who get pregnant KEEP their babies, and give birth to them, and then once they're born, they're of little to no consequence or worthy of your regard?

As an embryo, they're priceless...
As an infant, they're disposable...

You sicken me... morally, anyway...

Fact: some idiot - a 22-year-old named Garrett Smith - in Florida (in the actual county where I live, so there was a lot more coverage here!) brought an explosive device (apparently made from M80 fireworks) to a protest about a detainee who participated in the Jan 6, 2021 insurrection in DC.

He hasn't said which side he was on - and there has been nothing in his personal effects or online presence that would identify whether he was in favor of, or against the protest. The kid had other explosive devices in his home, and the investigations continue - but our local Sheriff (Gualtieri - who I voted for, LOL) hasn't been able to determine what the intent was at that rally.... the explosives were still in his backpack (even tho he was running away from the rally)... and he's not talking.

Maybe he intended to do harm at the rally and chickened out?
Maybe he attended the rally and forgot the device was even in his backpack?
Maybe his target was something else, near the rally, and he was just passing by - and because the rally was being surveilled by the Sheriff, they lucked out in catching him?
Maybe he's an FBI plant, testing the Sheriff's office?
Maybe he's a CIA operative sent to cause general disruption and dismay?
Maybe he's a Russian Spy?
Maybe he's from the future and was sent to PREVENT a bombing, and the explosives are what he's taken from others so that he can alter the future!

Lots of unknowns - and he's not talking!

So, where does the Antifa part come from? Apparently, he recently went to Portland, OR and the Antifa activists there prefer to wear all black. (I had no idea my nephew - who is a kind-of modern-day "goth" - was also Antifa! I actually thought he was pro-Trump!)

So where does the rest of this made-up shit come from?
We don't (yet) know if he's a liberal or conservative - only that he's dangerous (because of the explosives) and likes to wear black... and that makes him a liberal and antifa?

But the Russian Propaganda Machine says that we take all these unknowns and fill in our own answers - specifically to make our enemies (liberals!) out to be violent, unreasonable, evil, and devious!

If you believe your own propaganda, liberals are elite intellectuals who are better organized, and generally superior to conservatives in every measurable way - except that they're wrong, and you're right!

Heil Putin!

... and I call bullshit (again!)

Honestly, this kid is where he belongs: in a jail cell about 20 miles from here. Additionally, all of his explosive toys have been confiscated (tho M80s are hardly difficult to find in these parts!).

As to his intentions, only the mind readers know for now, as his home and online environments have not been revealing, and he's not talking.

Oh, and you two - YOU TWO know more than our Sheriff ... well, because you just DO! (and because your Russian Propaganda Machine sources say you do!)

@kekkaishi said in Lush cosmetics store kicks out disabled child over inability to wear a mask:

@bi4smooth I would argue that it wasn't a mistake. It was a bad decision

OK - potato / potato (LOL)

Take the original quote - substitute your word choice, and it seems essentially the same to me:

People make mistakes - re-train the employee, apologize to the mother & child, and move on. Let it be a teaching moment, so to speak...

vs

People make bad decisions - re-train the employee, apologize to the mother & child, and move on. Let it be a teaching moment, so to speak...

@geobear40 said in Georgia Officials Tampered With and Deleted Hours of Ballot Box Video Before It Was Released to Investigators:

I think you are all missing the point.

This is not evidence that Trump should be President but that there are to many ways to cheat if someone wanted to. Laws are needed to to minimize the ability to cheat.

2020 showed us that a few fraudulent votes cast in key districts is a few key states could change the out come of an election.

So, you look at one of the GREAT STRENGTHS of our voting system (that each State, nay each County in each State) has its own - unique - election system, such that, even IF, for example Dominion voting machines with a specific code set were compromised, it would only affect a tiny fraction of the overall vote!

The Russians and Chinese CAN'T hack our elections (though they certainly can influence them with misinformation campaigns!) because there is no one way (nor even a single hundred ways) to do so! They would have to simultaneously, and secretly, break into HUNDREDS - nay, thousands - of systems to be successful! Systems that are (from a computer science perspective) not at all similar!

Nah - you go ahead.... CENTRALIZE the voting systems - make them all "perfect"! That way, one good hack CAN change millions of votes!

The professionals - the supervisors of elections - FROM BOTH PARTIES! - agree overwhelmingly: 2020 was one of the "cleanest" elections in our history!

Only thing is: "Trumpty Dumpty the loser" had a great fall... and we all know that COULDN'T have happened, because he was supposed to have had it RIGGED - in his FAVOR!

So, if Trumpty Dumpty didn't win, the only plausible explanation is that someone out-cheated him!

Yeah! That's the ticket!

@raphjd said in Georgia Officials Tampered With and Deleted Hours of Ballot Box Video Before It Was Released to Investigators:

@bi4smooth

Your extreme TDS colors everything you believe.

The ones hyper-focused on Trumpty Dumpty are the ones focused on the PAST - and what could have been! Making up stories to justify a significant, but valid LOSS!

But wait, you can't lose - unless you were cheated!

Yeah! That's the ticket!

@raphjd said in Georgia Officials Tampered With and Deleted Hours of Ballot Box Video Before It Was Released to Investigators:

It's amazing how a pair of losers turned a thread about voter fraud into an anti-Trump tirade, AGAIN.

OH! You were talking about the alleged voter fraud about the election of Marjory Taylor Greene, not Trump!

My bad!

@raphjd said in NTSB to investigate Pittsburg bridge collapse just hours before Biden visit on BBB plan:

@geobear40

They love their whataboutisms.

I predicted this exact thing. Before Trump even took office I predicted that liberals would demand that no one mention Obama after he leaves office, but once Trump left office, they would never shut up about him.

You clearly don't follow any liberal news outlets (I follow liberal, conservative, and moderate media!)...

My point being, as Saintly as Trump is to the Republicans, Obama is just as much so to the Dems... every utterance he makes generates headlines in their world! (Obama doesn't demand loyalty and fealty like Trump, but he actually GETS it from Dems - without the demands, threats & retaliatory "strikes" against those that would dare oppose even a single breath... something that likely eats away at Trump's ego nightly LOL)

The difference is that Obama followed the "old playbook" at the end of his term, and at least initially, tried to stay out of the spotlight. Trump LIVES FOR the spotlight!!! Now though, both fight for news coverage, even though BOTH are "old news"...

But, as much as @eobox91103 is correct in stating that Trump paid lip-service (and little else) to infrastructure issues, the exact same can be said of Obama before him, and even Bush and Clinton before them! Infrastructure woes are nothing new!

Putting off Infrastructure projects has been bi-partisan agreed-upon folly for decades now!

@raphjd said in Black Lives Matter sent millions to Canada charity to buy mansion:

https://nypost.com/2022/01/29/black-lives-matter-sent-millions-to-canada-charity-m4bj-for-mansion/

BLMers are as marxist as Bernie.

Yet another NY Post hyperbolic and misleading story...

So, the person (not the group) who finagled this abuse of not-for-profit-organization money (doesn't matter if it's a liberal cause or a conservative one - it's a NFP organization!) has already resigned as a result of these things coming to light... resigned last year, and others involved are also either resigning or being forced out.

A legit story, yes - sure - in 2020 and maybe in 2021!
A little "old news" for 2022 tho...

This just in: famed Presidential dog Checkers has died...

@geobear40 said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

@bi4smooth

Being trans and being homosexual are not the same thing. Trans persons are a minority so small that they have to become part of a larger group to get any respect.

You really think that the trans community encompasses all of homosexuality?

You silly fool (and I do not use the term loosely):

• L - Lesbian (as in homosexual female)
• G - Gay (as in homosexual male)
• B - Bisexual (male or female)
• T - Transexual (or Transgender - depending on who you ask)
• Q - Questioning

You, my dear queer, are a transphobe... sad, but you've proven it!

@raphjd said in NTSB to investigate Pittsburg bridge collapse just hours before Biden visit on BBB plan:

@bi4smooth

"You clearly don't follow any liberal news outlets (I follow liberal, conservative, and moderate media!)..."

If you followed anyone other than Joy "I was hacked" Reid, The Root, Slate, and Salon, you would not have said that Kyle Rittenhouse killed 3 black men, especially after the court case. Where you got the insane idea that it happened in Chicago, is anybody's guess. Prior to the court case, all your gods in liberal media were claiming he killed 3 black men, but most stopped this lie once the court case started and it was impossible to maintain the lie.

You also DO NOT watch conservative news because if you did, you would know for a fact that all the liberal media darlings spouting Russian Collusion on TV, said the exact opposite in Shifty Schiff's secret bunker hearings. You even refused to watch the video I posted where Tucker showed the video clips of them saying one thing and then read from their sworn testimony saying the complete opposite. If you went to the video page on YouTube, there was even a link to the government site where you can actually read their sworn testimony.

Yup, you're back to your childish stage... Guessing your Russian handlers haven't been feeding you any new material lately...

yawn...

@geobear40 said in Black Lives Matter sent millions to Canada charity to buy mansion:

@bi4smooth said in Black Lives Matter sent millions to Canada charity to buy mansion:

A legit story, yes - sure - in 2020 and maybe in 2021!
A little "old news" for 2022 tho...

Is it "old news" because they have done it before?
Are you "letting it side" because you expect NFP to spend most of their donation on over priced assets and high payrolls?
I guess the Liberals took cues from the Churches.

A real 501(c)(3) should be spending 90% - 95% of their donation on helping people in need not the other way around.

While that percentage is a bit on the "unrealistically high" side, I agree in principle that non-profits need careful watching... sadly, the IRS has been de-fanged and de-clawed - largely by Republicans, but also by some fat-cat Dems trying to save some dough...

But dude, to say that Liberal NPO's (Non-Profit Organizations) are any worse than Conservative ones is just being blind! The NRA hasn't been dirty?

Without oversight, they're ALL dirty!

@raphjd said in Black Lives Matter sent millions to Canada charity to buy mansion:

@bi4smooth said in Black Lives Matter sent millions to Canada charity to buy mansion:

@raphjd said in Black Lives Matter sent millions to Canada charity to buy mansion:

https://nypost.com/2022/01/29/black-lives-matter-sent-millions-to-canada-charity-m4bj-for-mansion/

BLMers are as marxist as Bernie.

Yet another NY Post hyperbolic and misleading story...

So, the person (not the group) who finagled this abuse of not-for-profit-organization money (doesn't matter if it's a liberal cause or a conservative one - it's a NFP organization!) has already resigned as a result of these things coming to light... resigned last year, and others involved are also either resigning or being forced out.

A legit story, yes - sure - in 2020 and maybe in 2021!
A little "old news" for 2022 tho...

This just in: famed Presidential dog Checkers has died...

Says the man who gets his news from Joy "I was hacked" Reid, The Root, Slate, and Salon, all of whom lied about Kyle Rittenhouse even after the court case claiming he murdered 3 black men. I'm still not sure where you heard that it happened in Chicago though, but it's probably something you just made up in your head.

The only person more infallible than the Great and Powerless @raphjd is the Orange and Fat One himself - yes, only He Who Must Be Named is more flawless than @raphjd!

Yes, I conflated 2 different stories... I said my mea culpas... weeks, no months, ago!

Now go Google "mea culpa" so you know what I said!