This is part of the argument I had with RoyalCrown89, which in turn got me labeled a racist.

You are NEVER allowed to be critical of John Lewis because of his civil rights work 50 years ago.    That means that we have to completely ignore his 35 years as a Congressman.

@cteavin:

@Frederick:

Trump has incredibly energy, and doesn't seem to neglect anything.   He might be taking some sort of meds to give him stamina.  I'd like some of what he's taking!

Maybe but what about her observation that what's wrong with the world will continue to be wrong after Trump, so just spend that energy focused on the US?

Have you seen Apocalypse Now? By the end, we meet a man who'd been hiding in the jungle for twenty plus years and when finally caught shows him magazines from twenty, thirty, forty years before that. It's all the same news. Today, it's still the same news. Different names but mostly the same.

She is correct.. the USA is going downhill.  Obama worked very hard to make that happen, but didn't finish the job.  Trump's presidency will delay the failure of the USA.  In fact, his changes might have an effect for decades to come - delaying the inevitable.  Had crooked Hillary won that election, the USA would be in very deep doo doo NOW.  She would be under impeachment for very solid, real reasons.

@cteavin:

@Frederick:

@flozen:

Separately, I'm concerned about his recent moves to "play to the base," including the push for puritanical religious freedoms that are rolling back LGBT protections:

Now, when you mash these ideas together, and I see Trump feeding on the adulation from his core supporters for these recent "victories," I feel some unease that he will, on the topic of preemptive war with North Korea, think about pleasing the base one more time:

If anybody can explain what lesbians have to do with North Korea, let me know.

What Flozen is saying is that Trump's base, which includes the religious right a.k.a. people who are gunning for the gays, wants Trump to escalate the situation with North Korea as diplomacy has only enabled Kim. Flozen, I assume, is anti-war and would like to prevent the deaths of countless North/South Koreans. (There's no chance of N. Korea attacking the US, though they could have spies who could cause some mayhem.)

Meanwhile, over here in Tokyo, there's very little fuss over the Korea situation. Generally, people seem happy with the tougher stance as no one seems convinced that Kim will actually attack anyone. The news analysis seems to agree that people are happy with Abe's policies towards North Korea (siding with Trump) while all of my students want negotiations.

Me? I've had flashbacks to the early 80's and see the whole thing as bravado, not much different from when Regan and Gorbachev were in a war of words and justification for more military spending.

Flozen is against anything Trump does.

As for negotiating with North Korea… what is there to negotiate?  They already have nukes, they already have ICBMS that can reach any city in the USA within 40 minutes of launch.  Kim Jung Un has repeatedly said he will attack US cities, Guam, and sink Japan into the ocean.  At what point do we stop North Korea?  AFTER they kill millions of people and disrupt the economy of the world?  Already, North Korea is victimizing millions of people... it's OWN citizens in North Korea, and South Korea.  I'm glad that Japan is so confident that the USA will protect them, but consider this.. Kim Jung Un doesn't even need an ICBM to nuke Japan.. he can simply load a nuclear bomb on to a plane or one of his standard rockets and faster than you can say "Hiroshima"  POOF!    Kim has ALREADY sent 2 missiles flying over Japan in the last year.

Again.. negotiation... to negotiate what?  NK has already said it will not negotiate with any country other than the USA.. and now they say they will not negotiate with the USA either.  (there is nothing to negotiate).

@raphjd:

In NYC, Canada and others, the "extreme left" as you like to portray them, are in charge.   They got shit put into law, that as you showed, isn't needed.   That still doesn't negate the very real fact that the leftist agenda is being put into law.

"Don't worry, they won't enforce it" is kinda funny because the left gets extremely butt hurt that blacks still can't vote in some states in the US, under state law.   Gay sex (but not lesbo sex) is still illegal in Texas and 9 other states, despite the USSC ruling.    So why the butt hurt over these things, if they don't matter.    Adultery is illegal in 14 states, don't worry though, not many people get arrested for it.   Sex toys are illegal in at least 9 states (can't confirm the other 2), but don't worry, people rarely go to jail for it.

Imagine is the right made all abortion illegal, but said "don't worry, we won't enforce it".

In many western countries, the political parties frequently only allow people with certain traits (usually women, but quite often race and/or religion) to run.   As we saw in Canada, women got 50% of the cabinet jobs just because they had vaginas.   Trudeau even said a vag is more important than qualifications when choosing people to be given cabinet positions.

Across the US, we are seeing leftists running amuck.   Evergreen is not an exception.   It may be extreme in some of their actions, but they. like college students everywhere, control the college.     Look at the violent protests on college campuses to prevent Milo, Ben Shapiro, and anyone else on the right from speaking.

Colleges across the west had trigger warnings, about nearly everything.   The University of Chicago was the first to ban trigger warnings, after having them for a few years.

The left has shit on real trans people with their bullshit.    As an example, there was a trans girl (formerly boy) in the same high school as Elliot Cope.  The real trans person had no problems at school.   Once Elliot Cope started her attention seeking shit, the real trans person started getting accused to being like Elliot Cope.

Blaire White and Skylar (and real trans like them) are now criminalized because of the left's bullshit.   Bringing this fact up is deemed "transphobia".  Of course it's not transphobia, because I'm defending real trans people.

Even with the leftist bias in "real news", we are seeing this shit.   That means that the problem is real and not just outliers as you claim.

Any law that is selectively enforced is a law that needs to be abolished.
Some examples.. a rape law where only men get charged. 
When someone beats their wife, but gets away with it because they are a cop.

Here's some semi-true examples to make my point:
Speeding citations were only issued to people who drive red cars.
Murders only investigated if the victim is white.

@aadam101:

This is just an actress looking to get her name out there.

There's two of them now.
Apparently it was nothing serious, just George pretending to be a dirty old man as a joke.

@flozen:

@cteavin:

@flozen:

In the same arena, if anyone would like to read a piece on "consent" specifically geared to our community, here you go.  And it's from the UK, no less:

https://www.gmfa.org.uk/fs162-consent-and-the-gay-community   :cool2:

In case you didn't see it, I made a separate topic based on this article you shared.

Yes, and  :thx:

What's nice about that "Consent" thread – as of this writing -- is that the posters are sharing their own interesting stories about consent, and it's very focused, on-topic, and almost free of hyperbole.  Unfortunately, it still has some classless vulgarity, a trend that seems to have increased as of late, and does nothing to prove a point or lend credibility to the individual.

Yes. But not so bad as before. Much easier to read here now. I maybe getting more comfortable to post my opinions here.

@Frederick:

The moonbats will want math & science removed from education curricullums!  It's RACIST!
"whut da hell you mean dat pi  r squared?    Pie is round!  and it ain't "ARE" but "IS" foo!"
"my geometry teacher axed me 'bout a rectangle.. I says to her, 'hey bitch I didn't wreck yo raggedy ass angle!" 
"den my teacher told me to use the Euclidian Algorithm.  I didn't even know dat Al Gore had Euclidia!  he musta got that clap from screwin' some skank ho'.  Mah sista has Euclidia!"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/24/white-privilege-bolstered-by-teaching-math-university-professor-says.html

:bithfight: That's not what her paper says. I just read it. Surprisingly, it's actually interesting and has zero to do with white privilege or r_emoving math and science from the curriculum_.

Google Books has the two essays the article you posted points to. You can read them for free. The first one, the one the article quotes from, is Chapter Two from page 11 and is actually very interesting hitting on what it means for corporations to run charter schools for profit and how that affects public education. The author then goes on to talk about how those external influences affect the math department. The gist of what she says is that if you're a poor kid in a public school where the teachers have to keep you (unlike charter schools which can remove the student if they underperform) the student feels extra pressure. Math is something they can't relate to because it deals with abstracts disconnected from the students daily experiences. The author is calling for a new way to train math teachers in how to make math accessible while not falling into the mindset that they have to aim for good scores on the national tests.

She does say that her families background is activist and that language creeps into her part of the paper. She's also quoting from specialized sociology and math research books that use specific jargon. Combined, it's a lot to take in but she's in no way telling people there needs to be less math. She appears to be saying that there should be less standardized testing or less teaching to take the standardized tests.

Read for yourself and decide.

https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=z885DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=Political+Conocimiento+for+Teaching+Mathematics:+Why+Teachers+Need+It+and+How+to+Develop+It&source=bl&ots=EHabPgWuOD&sig=Ax54eAquejrBFIiRrreWh8PNoNI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi627mi8YvXAhUMEbwKHV2ZD9EQ6AEINDAC#v=onepage&q=Political%20Conocimiento%20for%20Teaching%20Mathematics%3A%20Why%20Teachers%20Need%20It%20and%20How%20to%20Develop%20It&f=false

The other chapter is from page 150.

After reading that I became interested in her thought progression. Here's a more accessable paper written in 2013. At least read the first paragraph to get a feeling of her thesis.

http://www.creatingbalanceconference.org/resources/wp-content/uploads/formidable/Gutierrez_2013_Politics-of-Urban-Math-Teaching.pdf

@raphjd:

You are trying to make it acceptable for politicians to lie to us.

If Obama had the moral high ground, then why hide what he was doing?   Snowden would be a non issue if Obama kept his promise to be the most transparent President ever.    Again, Obama lied his ass off.

I've pointed out Obama's history with LGBTs equality and his political career.   He was willing to throw LGBTs under the bus to get the next political office.    Hell, he took credit for LGBT equality in Illinois that he had nothing to do with.   Sure, he did some good for LGBTs in Illinois, but only a little.   He did nothing like he loves to claim.   He claims things that happened before he first got elected.   He claims things other people did.

I think you're being willfully ignorant of how politics works.

Obama could have promised the moon, as Trump can promise a border wall that Mexico pays for, but once he got in office he was bound by the rules of an elected official, not granted the powers of a king. To get anything done he had to work with the Senate and Congress. Do you remember how hard the Republican minorities made it for Obama to do anything? Have you noticed how hard the Republican majorities are making it for Trump? Even if Obama/Trump wanted to do x, y, and z, it wasn't/isn't theirs to do without the backing of both houses and so neither man has lied. You need to make a distinction between lying and keeping a campaign promise, two very different things.

Throwing under the bus is rhetoric because you didn't like what he did but that's politics. Do you recall the open mic when Obama was talking with one of Putin's staff? He'll be able to maneuver more after he wins the next election. For LGBT rights that's what he did, he waited till he didn't have to run before putting forth (another) (unpopular) policy.

Trump might be different. He was the first President that got in trouble for keeping his campaign promises.

PARAGRAPHS!  :spank2:

Paragraphs, Fredrick, paragraphs.  :spank:

Geeze, you should go to work for the Border Patrol. You know how to build a wall, man.  :whistle:

@raphjd:

I will never change my opinion on this.

A peaceful protest/counter protest is nothing bad.

Illegal types of protests are the problem.    NO ONE has the right to use violence/destruction or physical means to prevent others from using their free speech.

Personally, I think the mayor of Berkeley should be hanged, drawn and quartered in the public square and have his head stuck on a pike for the treasonous acts he has committed against the US Constitution.    He sworn an oath to protect and defend the laws of the land and the constitution, but over the last few years he has clearly violated many of them.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scottish-barmen-banned-wearing-kilts-drunk-women-keep-groping-their-penises-1510817

You'll find countless articles like this on the internet.

You will also find countless articles, by feminists, declaring it's ok for women to do this because it's empowering women.  These cunts will justify the double standards with all manner of mental gymnastics.

@Frederick:

@cteavin:

Thoughts?

Youtube Video

That you know that song endears you to me.  :hug2:

But to topic, change the wording to what I wrote just a bit and we get:

1. S/He was underage drinking in a country where alcohol is forbidden.

2. He touched a woman/man on the hip – who decided to bring the police into the situation isn't stated.

3. He's already been condemned by the people.

@Icc:

Why not?

You want to quaranteen Trump and his supporters.

Or call people names like nazi because its the same thing.

Actually, he has a point. Your wording deliberately puts POTUS and Price (two Prices?) under the moniker Nazi and that is a volatile comparison to make. If you have a point you should be able to make it without name calling.

I'm not interested in the article, I'm just saying you could do better

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/trump-fake-renoir-parker-brothers-masterpiece-1122221

@cteavin:

IF that game is real, I'd actually like to play.

Oh, the board game Masterpiece was fairly popular when I was a wee lad.  Here's an ebay listing, which asks $30.99 and is described as:

"Vintage 1970 MASTERPIECE The Art Auction Board Game Parker Brothers 99% Complete"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1970-MASTERPIECE-The-Art-Auction-Board-Game-Parker-Brothers-99-Complete-/311976936260?hash=item48a3464344:g:IpkAAOSwuTtZ26Cx

I know, I know… you're wondering if the "1 percent missing" is the forgery of Renoir’s Two Sisters on the Terrace that our Prez so defiantly defends.  But no, it's just a lost playing piece.  For a moment, I thought I had found an out for him.   :cheesy2:

@cteavin:

@sutieday:

Trump's repugnant words and actions over the past two weeks have shown absolutely zero respect or regard for members of the military or their families.

I was watching Bill Mahar yesterday, who I think can be really funny, but he started his show by saying that the general was a liar who was covering up for Trump. I get that BM is running a comedy show but with so many people turning to comedy programs (like Sam B, Seth M, and Stephen C) they need to more accurate and less inflammatory.

I see no reason to disbelieve the general. I see every reason why someone in his position would be offended by a senator politicizing the death of a military member – to say so is not slander.

If you listen to the whole of what the general said at his press conference, I think it's clear Trump didn't speak out of turn. Simply put, if you dislike someone everything they do is going to piss you off. It was a lose, lose situation from the start.

Who is Sam B? 
Maher is a clever guy, BUT he likes to drop incendiary bombs to boost his ratings.  For instance, if he is being ignored by the media for a long time, he will say "nigger" knowing that it will instantly get him media attention.  He will then spend the next month apologizing, which gets him even more media attention.    I would recommend that everyone watch Maher's "Religulous".

@cteavin:

@aadam101:

I don't see what the big deal is.  I was a Boy Scout.  Our Troop leader had 2 sons and 2 daughters.  While the daughters weren't official members or anything they spent a lot of time with us.  Nobody ever gave it a second thought.  Scouting is a family venture.  Always has been.

I thought the issue was that the Girl's Scouts didn't have to integrate boys but the Boy Scout's did. If the GS want to create a space for girls then so too should the boys be allowed one.

The organizations are completely separate.  They have nothing to do with another.  The Girl Scouts will likely follow suit in a year or two.  They probably want to see how this plays out for the Boy Scouts first. It was only a few years ago when the Boy Scouts were at the Supreme Court.  The Girl Scouts likely don't want that kind of attention.