@cteavin:

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This really annoys me. I'm scrolling through Facebook with my morning coffee and find a link of John Kelly's speech explaining why Trump said what he said. The clip was about 10 minutes.

Further down the feed were several stories saying that Kelly's speech confirmed how disrespectful Trump was yada, yada, yada showing a 90-second clip – or worse, just a sentence or two.

With public discussion of fake news people should scrutinize the news they consume, but they don't. What's the phrase? You can lead a horse to water…

What's the solution?

With the previous talk here about alleged Russian collusion with Trump's handlers, this is a relevant question. Even if Russia had been feeding fake news to the American people, ultimately it's the reader's fault for believing nonsense.

Thoughts?

It's "you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think"  or  "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink".

In the case of Kelly, the media PRESUMED how he felt about his son and what Trump said.  Kelly refuted what the media said, but even then, the media is still insisting that they know what Kelly is thinking and that Kelly is lying.

Meanwhile.. what Trump said about that soldier that died was "he knew what he was getting into.." which is equivalent to saying that "he died in the line of duty".  What is so horrible about saying that?  Would the mother have preferred if her son was killed by friendly fire, or by accident?  No matter what Trump says, it gets shit on by the media.

@raphjd:

I'm not saying that Pizza-gate is true.    I'm pointing out that a lot of things that sound fake turned out to be true.    Just because the government denies it, don't mean shit.   Just because the police deny it, don't mean shit.

Jimmy Saville was molesting kids for 40 years and it only became "truth" after he died.  He was being protected by the BBC, the government and the police.

There were gangs of pedo MPs in the UK too.   They had the run of state run orphanages.   One Welsh MP had keys to a few orphanages and would frequent them in the middle of the night.

Until about 10 years ago, the UK government's official stance is that there had never been a woman pedo.   They were forced to change that when a bunch of women, in several cases, were being prosecuted for being pedos.

Harold Wilson claimed that MI5 and MI6 were trying to bring down his government.   Originally he thought it was Russia doing it, because that's what MI5 and MI6 told him and made it look like it was Russia.  Somehow he saw through it and claimed it was them.   40 years later, MI5 and MI6 admit it's all true.

Maggie Thatcher allowed muslims to have 5 wives.  This was done in semi secret.  When it was brought up, "racist" was thrown around and it was completely denied.   The story blew up and became "truth" about 10 years ago.     So bigamy and polygamy despite being illegal in law, it's perfectly "legal" for some with no care on what the law says.

Dame Maggie Thatcher was so cruel!  One wife is bad enough.. but five?  ARRGGH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0TuXLrvyE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYGPY6AeegE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4BCUWopQQ4
The left showed no mercy to Thatcher when she died.

Sir Jimmy Savile (like Thatcher given the highest honor of being knighted) was something else!  I am proud to say that when I lived in England and Savile was still alive. I hated him THEN before it became popular to hate him. 
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@gaypraha2:

My country requires ID to vote.  You also have to bring in the enumeration document saying where you are allowed to vote that includes name and address.

same here you need 2 documents ID + card issued when you register for voting and you can vote only where you are registered.

Only voting where one is registered is a good way to prevent fraud.  There are many cases where busloads of people vote at one place, and then are transported to the next voting place, etc.

Even at the same voting place, some people would wear disguises including hats, mustaches, wigs, etc.  I'll bet Hillary brought suitcases filled with every color pantsuit she had, and probably tried dark glasses and a mustache too!

Kimmel is a whore.  He'll do whatever makes him cash.  He has no morals.

@Oscarbingham:

My exact feelings.

It's sickening that when ISIS commits a horrific act of terrorism, the media report it far and wide - giving ISIS the attention they were seeking.. yet when Trump (and Putin) dismantle and crush ISIS, the media barely even mention it!