Possibly. I do remember other events though and i could mention them but out of respect to my fellow German users, i won't.
In this forum, i prefer to see the brighter aspects of communication with other people.
I refuse to use norticblue's slimy tactics.
I don't see him being "slimy" but wanting to create discussions/debate.
We need good (emotionless) debates going on here to liven up the forums.
I'm not against bailing others out, but I want you and other in those bailed out countries to understand that bailing you out hasn't been easy on us, when you complain about the bailout. On various forums, I've seen people in the bailed out countries getting nasty toward the people in the countries that bailed them out. THIS IS COMPLETELY WRONG.
My standard of living has crashed due to the UK bailing out other countries and constantly having to help top up the Euro.
I understand and empathise with your points, you are completely right in what you are saying, let me just point where those worse reactions were coming from, imagine a country like portugal who was average and not at it's best when finland actually needed support some decades ago, we gave to them the support at our own cost (like you are doing now)… this time when we needed the first help they were the stronger opposition if you remenber, so it was coming from there too, and in the case of greece and germany it's the same, greece funded germany when it was broke, they never had to pay it back... so again conflict. Surely it did not became overly dramatic and was dealt with, again it's not a hate on the people but more on the institutions, in my particular case it's a clear see-how-this-idiots-don't-have-a-clue-about-what-they-are-doing specially the bank system... the country had to sold what actually gave it profit, to follow troika guidelines... that is no way to run or help a country in the long term. A bunch of shitty short term ways to get cash to pay up by empoverishment athat helped noone, surely it made people hate furthermore... if they actually managed instead of killing inner markets to make the jobs and companies stronger and more secure and destroy the grey economics and reduce the state fat, it all would change, surely a country like mine can't have what our politics get in salaries pensions and benefits neither the whole luxury car fleet and so on... did they cut that? NO THEY MULTIPLIED. Sorry we do get your point because we felt it also, but it's so frustating to have to basically wait to get most of our political class in jail.
I think most politicians should be sent to prison for treason, for what they have done to their individual countries. This also includes the money grubbing MEPs in the EU.
The Euro is a massive failure, which is harming the UK's economy and well being, as we have to keep bailing it out. I'm sure it's harming most other countries that have involvement in it.
In the UK, business rates (taxes simply for existing as a business) are strangling small mom and pop sized businesses. Major shopping areas are turning into ghost towns. Retail property owners find they are better off tax wise keeping their shops empty, than renting them out.
