@herbert967 and rejection is a constant element of being gay for all the non-stereotypical men in the gay community, and rejection from straight men for gays is very common, just like for a lot of straight men with girls. We don't win this "kind and open-minded" challenge, not anymore I'm afraid since Grindr appeared to give a mask to all the assholes between us.

The only advantage in my opinion is philosophical, unless you're extra-masculine, muscular, urban, white and privileged with a western culture (I mean, capitalist). Then it can be a lot of fun for you, although your love life may be pretty scarce if you fancy one

@bi4smooth thanks bro

20 years old and 1 day..

@spam17 I'm Gay..ish.. but had casual sex with a female coworker for a while. She knew I preferred men but wanted to play anyway.. regardless, she preferred watching gay porn instead of straight porn.

Caspita.. coraggioso!
Io il mio primo rapporto sessuale gay l'ho avuto a 33 anni ed ero fidanzato con donna da 7 anni circa. Gli ultimi 3 erano anche di convivenza.
Riconosco che quando ero lanciato nelle chat gay, la presenza della mia compagna mi innervosiva. Avrei voluto essere solo e gestire questa cosa senza dover nascondere nulla.
Però mi rendevo anche conto che spesso queste voglie omosessuali mi passavano e non ne sentivo più l'esigenza. Quindi ci ho messo un pò a capire che caspita dovevo fare.
Per un paio d'anni sono rimasto con un piede in due scarpe. Incontravo uomini e la sera tornavo a casa da lei.
Per quanto il sesso tra due uomini è decisamente più lussurioso e godereccio alla fine non lo trovavo più così appagante.
Di fatto rimasi con la mia donna senza sentire più la necessità di incontrare ragazzi. Non fu necessario fare coming out.

@anythingold Thank you, that actually cleared something for me.

@dadesnine Currently - always none. Everything seems pointless.

The few gay Muslims that I met, even fewer has a family that supported them. I really feel that as a precaution, make sure you have your finances and living situation solid, in the event that your coming out don't go so well.

In most instances I would say no.  It's part of someone's private life.

I would only be tempted with someone who acts against the interest of LGBT+ people as some kind of internalized homophobia. And mostly I would try out them to themselves, and see if they can get help dealing with it.

Coming out cured my depression. I can't imagine being closeted again.

my thing now is i make not so subtle statements indicating to it like if they ask if i have a girlfriend i say "no, but i also dont have a boyfriend". because rarely do people can upfront ask you "hey are you gay?" in a professional work setting

I have been very lucky because I didn't lose any friend (real friend, I mean) when I came out to them. They accepted me in the same way as before knowing I was gay.

The curious thing is that I "lost" some acquaintances who didn't accept me being gay. Obviously I did not even worry about them because they were not really friends and they showed that they were not my friends because they stopped talking to me when I said I was gay.

@SapDragon:

Curious about people's stories.
Has anyone actually "converted" someone who was supposedly straight?

That being said, "converted" can be iffy as usually they were gay to begin with.  ;D

i seriously dont think is any converting going on..more than likely he is living the straight life and decides to try out the other side of sex which is gay sex–then he realizes that he loves gay sex  and been lying and hiding it from others because he didnt want to be called a queer--or fag or whatever--

i know guys that have sex with both male and female and hate being labeled gay or straight or even bisexual--and i agree with them--the world is so hooked up  in labelling everything--that we begin to wonder what category we are in instead of knowing who we are

@kako75015:

I am stuill in the closet and it is very hard fior me.

in what ways is it hard for you to come out–be more interesting as to know why its hard to do--i will say this never coming out of the closet  means you will never be able to be yourself--i dated a guy that been married for  15 years had 2 sons and decided to  no longer lie to himself about his sexuality-he lied to keep the piece in his family and didnt know how friends would react and all--same thing everyone else has to go through when coming out--

i know a guy same age as me--so scared people he works for and know other than people that arent around his circle of friends- and he never been with a guy--but yet he has a selection of toys locked in a safe in the wall like a person would do with thousands of dollars--and to this day he never been with a guy except for blowjob all because he is afraid to come out

so let know why its so hard for you to come out so we can talk more about it

@1874:

sometime feeling quite nervous when think of this topic

i grew up i guess with a family/parents that didnt worry about their sons sexual preferences–my teen years i went to school went home then went to friends houses and then sometimes they would come to my place--i would be upstairs in my room with someone door shut and no one bothered us while we were doing whatever we were doing----middle school a friend of mine and i must been seen doing stuff so guys in class mostly during  gym class and between classes they would show me their asses and say wanna lick my ass or flash dicks and say they want to be next and i never understod that until my friend told me we  were caught doing it and now they are picking on us---

as got older  graduating from school and finding a job and i would go out to places ---i didnt drink but still went to bars to find someone--and we went to my place- which at this time i still lived with my folks--and my mom forgot to knock on the door and there i was getting pounded--she never said a word--
  so basically for me i am saying i never really was in the closet--i just was who i was and my family and few friends accepted me for it--

The only advice I can give you, guys, from my personal experience is to always be yourself and to always trust that the people who love you right now will love you when you come out. If someone changes his/her mind, it is just because he or she didn't really love you.

And also do not feel pressed to come out. Each of us has found the appropriate moment to come out. You will know when it is the best time to do it.

Be yourself and be as happy as you can!

There is a comedy show that made fun of this, it’s british I think where the mother of the protagonist hosts a lesbian-coming out party, when in reality she’s faking it to avoid her mother finding her a husband. I think it’s called Miranda.