@raphjd:
This discussion is about "gay and muslim" so that is why it is the focus.
I still think the way the discussion developed it's a bad way.
Instead of stimulates people to change the strutures of their religion I have only seen finger pointed and posts that can be resumed to "muslins are evil and vile, gay muslins either" in a website with a big arabic forum right there, indicating that are way more gay muslins then we can see.
I undestand that you dislikes religious stuff, but I don't think this way it's a good way to talk about these subjects.
(And i feel some prejudice in your speech, I say it as a outside viewer, that is non-european, non-british, non-muslin, non-religious at all, a way different context with no terrorist attacks and no middle east immigrants).
I don't know if my post will contribute here, but I felt someone should post it.