Posts made by hubrys

@raphjd said in Gay Florida student says school stopping him from running for senior class president:

The 2nd temp ban was because the person routinely assumed my position on topics, in many cases he was completely wrong, using that to slag me off even when I had not posted in the topic. His extreme TDS and hatred of anyone who supported Trump is what got him banned.

You mean like you routinely would pre-emptively put in strawman arguments and attribute them to the temporarily banned person, even before he'd ever even posted in the comment thread. How long are you temporarily banning yourself for that habit?

Didn't even have to try hard to find an example:

"YES, YES, I know our resident troll will be here shortly too screech and bleat some liberal bullshit to justify voter fraud, while losing his mind and exposing his extreme TDS."

The above posted in a thread about voter fraud BEFORE bi4smooth had ever even posted, or even read probably, the thread.

@raphjd said in Oklahoma Governor Signs Law Banning Abortion From Moment of Conception:

If the Democrats weren't so hostile to gay equality, the people fighting for marriage equality would have fought for a federal law making it the law of the US.
This is what we are seeing in the abortion argument.
Because you have Congress and the WH on your side, you want a federal law, despite abortion not being enumerated, therefore a states' rights issue.

So I can presume by the above non-sequitur, red herring tangent that you've discovered that your "marriage equality liberals were arguing for states' rights" BS was indefensible, and you're trying to sidetrack the discussion or distract from it now. Good, that means I won.

@raphjd No, you're the one that started talking about elementary schools. If you go back and read the original news article, it was talking about a Karen filing suit because the book was located in a high school. This elementary school tangent is yours and yours alone.

My point in the above quotes is that content related to sex does not make a book pornographic. It might make it inappropriate for elementary school children, but not pornographic. The material is perfectly appropriate in high schools, but its homophobic, conservative, religious Karens trying to get it removed even from locations where it is age-appropriate.

@raphjd Also, it looks like your method for "winning" arguments in "Gay News" is threatening people with bans when they disagree with you. That seems to be how you "win" arguments here in "Politics and Debate" lately as well. That's sad.

@raphjd said in Oklahoma Governor Signs Law Banning Abortion From Moment of Conception:

While statutes can not technically "erase" parts of the constitution, they can effectively erase them until the SCOTUS overturns the statute, as they did in DOMA and DADT. This almost always take more than a decade.

I agree; unconstitutional laws can be passed by Congress. However, our dispute here is that you think trying to overturn such an unconstitutional law passed by Congress means you're de facto arguing for states' rights. In other words, you're trying to create the false dichotomy of (1) fighting for states' rights by opposing a federal law; and (2) fighting for a federal law by opposing states' rights.

Marriage equality advocates were arguing against a federal statute AND the states who thought they had the right to pass Same-Sex Marriage bans.

@raphjd

"Until I was eleven or twelve, I didn't realize there was a second set of labia on the inside, since you couldn't see them. What's even funnier is that I thought urine came out of the clitoris…When you're standing up, all you see from the front is hair. Between your legs there are two soft, cushiony things, also covered with hair, which press together when you're standing, so you can't see what's inside. They separate when you sit down and they're very red and quite fleshy on the inside. In the upper part, between the outer labia, there's a fold of skin that, on second thought, looks like a kind of blister. That's the clitoris."

In addition to the above, Anne Frank also talks about masturbation and her homosexual attractions. Yet we shouldn't ban this book as pornographic.

"This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples"; – Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 7 – 8.

"11 “Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister. 12 She too lusted after the Assyrians—governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men. 13 I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way.

14 “But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeans[a] portrayed in red, 15 with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea.[b] 16 As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17 Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18 When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her naked body, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled." Ezekiel 23:11-21

@raphjd said in Oklahoma Governor Signs Law Banning Abortion From Moment of Conception:

It was a states' rights argument in that each state was allowed to decide who could get married and due to the FF&C everyone else had to accept it.

Oh, I get why you think that's a states' rights argument....you're stupid.

The federal government, specifically Congress, only has specific enumerated areas within which it can legislate. Marriage is not one of those enumerated areas. Marriage laws are, by the federalist design of our country, controlled by the individual states. That's not an argument that the marriage equality advocates were making; that's just plain fucking facts. Even after the Obergefell decision established that the right to same-sex marriage as a fundamental right, marriage is still controlled by the states. Post-Obergefell, it's just that a state cannot pass a schema for marriage that discriminates without that statutory schema being unconstitutional.

In the days of DOMA and the Same-Sex Marriage bans, marriage equality advocates were definitely making arguments based on the US Constitution. The "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the US Constitution cannot be erased by federal statute (e.g., DOMA). The argument marriage equality advocates were making was specifically that Alabama, as a state, does not have the right to pass a state law that refuses to recognize a marriage contract issued by the State of Hawaii. In other words, the anti-gay marriage states didn't have the Right as a State to choose not to follow the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.

That's not a states' rights argument, despite you trying to pretzel it into one.

@raphjd

"In response to questions sent by The Reporter after the meeting, district spokeswoman Christine Liberaski said Monday that “All Boys Aren’t Blue” was in the Oak Park library for five months during the 2020-21 schoolyear, but was never checked out by a student.

“Through investigation of the matter, it was found that the book was ordered after being researched and recommended as reading material helpful for students struggling with identity. After review of the book in August, it was removed from circulation (not last week as incorrectly reported) at the elementary school due to it not being developmentally appropriate for that age group. It was never read by the librarian to students,” she said."

[https://www.thereporteronline.com/2021/10/26/north-penn-parents-bash-board-over-books/](link url)

So, it was in AN elementary school, never checked out by a student, and then removed from the shelves after an investigation by the school district. This is your big evidence?

@raphjd said in Oklahoma Governor Signs Law Banning Abortion From Moment of Conception:

When individual states where starting to give marriage equality and civil unions to us, the right argued that it was not legal under federal law, but the left argued that it was states' rights.

Pretty sure that they were predominantly arguing that the federal DOMA act was a violation of Equal Protection, and that states and the federal government allowing some states to refuse recognition of marriages performed in other states as a violation of the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution (again, not a states' rights argument).

You'll have to do better than that.

@raphjd said in Gay Florida student says school stopping him from running for senior class president:

You called me an asshole and liar about that teen porn book being in Florida school libraries. Remember that?
Once I found the name of the elementary school that had it in their library, you ran away from the thread. So, using your rules, you are the asshole and liar since you have yet to admit that teen porn book was available in school libraries from K-12.

I don't even remember what you're talking about, but if you link to the discussion thread, then I'll try to make a special point of going back and reading your ramblings on the subject. If you've made cogent arguments that were responsive to the arguments I made, then I'll respond there. Frankly, I don't agree with the assertion that any book which discusses sexual events as a "porn book." By that definition, the Bible in the elementary school libraries is also a porn book.

@raphjd said in Oklahoma Governor Signs Law Banning Abortion From Moment of Conception:

What I find comical, is that during the "gay marriage" (I call it "marriage equality") argument, liberals where all about states' rights, but now they want a federal law.

What was the "states' rights" argument made by the advocates of marriage equality? I only recall marriage equality advocates attacking the federal Defense of Marriage Act on 14th/5th Amendments due process and equal protection grounds (i.e., definitely not states' rights arguments). And the marriage equality advocates leading up to the Obergefell were explicitly working against state-passed bans on same-sex marriage.

So, please remind me of the predominate states' rights arguments that you think the marriage equality movement was based on.

@raphjd said in Gay Florida student says school stopping him from running for senior class president:

So, as an "expert", why did you not include the whole thing?

So you don't understand how quoting works? Your critique of my argument is that I did not post a 20+ page SCOTUS decision; therefore, I don't understand the case.

@raphjd I seem to recall calling you a liar for posting a photoshopped photograph and refusing to acknowledge that you posted a fake photograph. Remember posting that fake photograph? Remember when you lied about it and refused to retract it?

@raphjd As an attorney that has practiced Constitutional Law, I appreciate @raphjd explaining it to me. I will inform Professor Erwin Chemerinsky that he needs to consult with you on the next edition of his Treatise.

Tinker v. Des Moines - Students do not “shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.”

More specifically:

In our system, state-operated schools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students… are possessed of fundamental rights which the State must respect, just as they themselves must respect their obligations to the State. In our system, students may not be regarded as closed-circuit recipients of only that which the State chooses to communicate. They may not be confined to the expression of those sentiments that are officially approved. In the absence of a specific showing of constitutionally valid reasons to regulate their speech, students are entitled to freedom of expression of their views.

Let people be Cake gendered if they want.

It's just applying Deconstructionism to the word/concept of "gender," which is an artifact. Artifact in its correct usage, meaning something created by human beings.

@raphjd This is how your side's logic looks:

You've been diagnosed with terminal cancer. In response, you've Googled a bunch of stories about people impersonating doctors or practicing medicine without a license. And you've concluded that because some doctors aren't real, you don't have cancer. And not only don't you have cancer, but you're now immortal.

Biden was declared the President. In response, you've proven some amount of voting irregularities (which have always been present in all American elections). Conclusion, Biden didn't actually win the Presidency. Not only that, but also now we must declare Trump the President.

TLDR; is this post just @raphjd, again, being ironically trans-supportive, to highlight what a transphobic ass he really is?

@raphjd said in Fairfax County VA public schools to suspend students who misgender:

It forbids discussing sexual matters with kids below the 4th grade and requires schools/teachers not to keep secrets about what is being taught in class.

As an attorney that has read the entire piece of legislation as enacted, I can tell you with certainty that if you sincerely believe that your quote above adequately summarizes this law, then you have been bamboozled. Even the section you're trying to reference goes way beyond how you've tried to summarize it, and that section isn't even the major section of the piece of legislation.

Leftists suspend students for misgendering ---- "They're trying to control how we think!!!"

Florida's legislature forbidding teachers from saying "Gay" or discussing gender ------- "Nope, nothing to see here folks."