I actually just posed the question in another thread, but WHY is there such a shortage of Asian men in gay porn?

I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately my Father passed away before I came out. I'd like to think we would have remained close. Did you guys have any shared interests before you came out? Perhaps if you reached out to him on that level, you might be able to reconnect? I think it is natural that Fathers and sons do a bit of drifting apart, even without the "gay" thing. My father was a huge NASCAR fan. Much as I detested it, I would go with him to the races feigning interest just to be close to him.

We had a really tumultuous relationship in my early teens, I blame myself for some of that - I was acting out and rebelling as a lot of kids do. By 16 I had it out of my system, and we reconnected over a shared love of old cars. He died when I was 17, and I was thankful we had that time to make peace. He was gone when I came out, but I'd like to think we would have remained connected.

I have a serious question for the black men reading this thread, what is your take on "Noir Male"?  I have a lot of friends who are black and were really rolling their eyes about it. I have to admit, it seems a bit divisive and disingenuous given that it is run by the oldest white drag queen in history. When I first saw it I thought WOW, way to passive aggressively reignite segregation. People have been screaming for more diversity in gay porn for ever, not only black but Asian, GROSSLY under represented and I can't wrap my head around WHY.

To me - it is like saying, "Well we can't be bothered to actually THINK on our one dimensional site, and scenarios where black men fit are too hard to put together." SO we made this site so ya'll can find them. Maybe I am way off base. I'd really like to hear your thoughts.

For the Asians reading here, WHY are y'all not getting nekid?  I find Asian men incredibly sexy, especially the really built guys - yet there are so few in gay porn on any of the mainstream sites. Why? Aisian WOMEN are EVERYWHERE. Please educate me.

I agree with a lot of what you have said, the amount of "cesspool" level porn out there is daunting, but what disturbs me more is that it is driven by "search engine results" tabulated by none other than Google. THAT implies there are a shitton of truly disturbed people out there who are now driving the bus. Gay men have taken a back seat to a bunch of closeted perverts. What bothers me almost equally is the ambivalence shown by the majority every time they download one of those scenes. The mind set being, it is just sex, guys fucking - the story does not matter.

I'm sorry, but YES it REALLY does matter. Like it or not, these porn sites are speaking for you in ways people seem to be oblivious to. Don't think for a second the "moral majority" isn't monitoring this garbage on the regular for use in a future sermon. You are letting a bunch of pervs represent you every time you click the download button. Gay men have fought these stereotypes for ever. To think it all means nothing? Ya'll need to wake the fuck up.

Bareback - it's here to stay until the next big strain of mega virus hits. It's only a matter of time. I don't think AIDS was an accident, it was a carefully groomed biological attack. I think it's creators never considered how deeply it could ricochet into hetero lives, or at the very least grossly underestimated the scale, assuming as usual the "collateral damage" would be justified. I think had the virus been somehow exclusively conscripted to gay men, it would still be killing people. It's only a matter of time before they figure out how to make that happen.

The GLBT community has become numb to the things that are really pulling down the property value. Since when did being part of this community mean you abandoned your values, and allowed porn sites to effectively make light of truly disgusting criminal behavior? For those of you who think it doesn't reflect on you? Wow, are you blind. As a teen rape survivor I can tell you it sickens me on levels I can't articulate. For every one of me, there is another who was the victim of incest, or molested at the hands of a priest. The list goes on. Supporting these sites, you are sending a message.

I'll also agree Sean Cody has been a mess lately, but given what I have been reading about how little these sites are actually paying, it is no mystery.  A hot guy can pedal his wares in too many other places and probably squash what these studios now offer. It's astonishing the few really hot men there are still bother with it. At this rate it will be nothing but street trade. Corbin Fisher has lowered the standards to the point it is painful to watch. GayHoopla is an absolute JOKE. At the rate these studios are whoring the scenes out to tube sites, I can't grasp the idea of a paid membership anywhere.

My question is this, what exactly are they being paid per scene by the tube site?  If I were a model, I'd be suing to see the actual math. I am finding it increasingly difficult to imagine they are not making bank by doing this. Which means these models are being unjustly SHANKED for lack of better term. It has to be lucrative or they would not be doing it, I have suspected for some time now they are hiding the level of profit they take from it. Unfortunately no wealthy entity EVER does "the right thing" because it's right. If I were them, I'd assemble and bring a class action suit to make the figures public. I think they will find they have been "had" at a level even they never suspected.

Going forward for you, I'd round up as many old scenes as you can. By the looks of things it is just going to get worse. I know my "spank bank" would get a thousand gay guys off for the next 200 years, should this planet survive that long.  :cool2:

@flozen:

I saw the play Dear Evan Hansen last night (brilliant stuff), and one of the central, recurring themes is the weight of parent expectations on the child, and vice versa.  And how even families who try to talk through these issues often have difficulty revealing their own selves, and their own "truth".

As applied to this thread, the play reminded me of how much that "wanting to have kids" is such a small, small part of raising a child.  It requires such a deep investment, on so many levels, that I would be hesitant to do so if there was a significant "enthusiasm gap" between me and my partner.

Agreed. Personally I think everyone should be sterilized at birth, and the only way of reversing it is no pass a series of competency classes, mental evaluations, a financial back ground check and 5 years of parenting classes. Some people should NEVER have been parents, and I can't imagine what it must be like to be the child in that situation. Trust me when I say THAT issue is a hetero one. Teenage girls who think it is all going to be fun and games, then reality hits and it's all bad.

I know a lot of gay couples who plan to add children, and most of them will make great parents. But having seen what my sisters have been through.. I know it is not for me. I can go grab theirs and spoil them when I want then take them home.. I am good with that.

People paying for that crap just blows my mind, I guess it is true what they say there really is one born every minute. Thankfully there is such a glut of REAL porn out there, I am all set if the whole thing caves in tomorrow. What I would be really concerned with as a model is the fact you KNOW these guys are not testing as they should. It would make it almost impossible to trust that your scene partner hadn't just done his own FFO thing the night before with some sketchy rat. I know I wouldn't risk it.

There was a new model for GayHoopla spilling the tea on them the other night, apparently they never tested him or his scene partner - and he made a whole 750.00 for the scene. NOPE. I'd have said bye Felicia. Prep only covers so much - Herpes is for life. 750.00? Bitch you hit your head. If this keeps growing, and I suspect it will - shit is going to get real in a hurry. I ran across a FFO scene with Raphael Alencar in it just last night, "fucking an actual plummer". Aside from the fact it was shot like 20 feet away, in shitty lighting, in a dirty room - it was total shit. THAT is not porn.

Thirsty bitches paying for that shit need to think, every penny you spend on that you are contributing to the end of days for gay porn.

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@Gianni89:

The only way they will ever get control of the situation again is to shut down the tube sites via legal maneuvers. Even though they are getting add dollars from them it is pretty obvious it isn't nearly stemming the losses.

Yeah but said tube sites are mostly controlled by conglomerates such as MindGeek, AEBN and so on, so really there isn't a simple way. On another note, I read that, with Hot House and RagingStallion going bareback, even Falcon will return to the bb scene after many years and, truth be told, I don't like it.

Now pretty much every company is doing bareback and pretty much everywhere I see the same bland, boring, uninspired and unattractive bareback scene and it's very rare to find a scene that doesn't look gross or corny, it's like they want me to drop modern gay porn altogether and alienate as many people as possible with such asinine politics but then again, business gonna business and it's sad that I have to say this because maybe gay porn isn't for me anymore, and I'm 24 years old.

It has to come to a head at some point in the near future, with all the Cam4 and For fans only shit taking an even bigger piece of their cookie - sites will have to up the ante and go back to "exclusive" contracts, or toss in the cards. I think GISP has got the best over all format, they just need to upgrade the camera work and throw a little more steam on the model search.  His scenes always have a feel of spontaneity that is lacking everywhere else.

It's a pretty sad dilemma. I have seen home made stuff cut together from cell phone video that is better than a lot of the new porn scenes.

The only way they will ever get control of the situation again is to shut down the tube sites via legal maneuvers. Even though they are getting add dollars from them it is pretty obvious it isn't nearly stemming the losses. As long as a model can Cam4 and make near what they would normally make in porn - it will continue to devolve.

It really comes down to money, no matter how you turn the picture. When models were at their earning zenith, so was the level of "talent", the hottest guys, the hottest scenes - all when the money flowed like water. It isn't just porn that has been affected by the internet, trust. It has gutted pretty much all avenues of retail sales, and will continue to do so.

Exclusivity is king and always has been. If your newest scene is available for free on a multitude of sites within hours of it's release, you are sunk.

@thetmstone:

Oh and a special mention to GuysInSweatPants, man that Austin really is a genius, and a fucking hot dude too.

Could not agree more. I love watching him fuck, he is like a horny squirrel trying to bury his nut LOL!  His scenes are some of the best in gay porn. I do wish he would upgrade his camera work, most of his scenes are shot from fixed angle and distance and that misses a lot of detail. He has attracted a great mix of models though, and the real beauty of his workis that there are no silly stories, just hot guys hooking up.

@raphjd:

Most of the #MeToo women are casting couch whores, who gave up the vag willingly for a movie role. They thought that one fuck would get them a lifetime of roles and when that didn't happen, they got butt hurt.

Then we have that case of the female professor of feminist literature sexually harassing and assaulting a male student and everyone runs to HER defense because, as they say, is "too important to feminist literature".   They don't care about the male victim because he's male and therefore unimportant.

Lots of vaginalists demonize Jimy Bennet and side with Asia Argento.

Asia really fucked herself and her case without having even given it a second thought. She readily admitted this kid was sending her dick pics, and that she did nothing to stop him. It isn't hard to draw the conclusion that the sick bitch probably actually encouraged him to continue. I don't know how far back text message records go - but I would be willing to bet she had been grooming this consummation for a long time. No matter what, the fact she did not take the matter to one or both of his parents - or anyone for that matter makes her guilty of trafficking in child porn. Her admission is public record.

I think MOST of the "Me Too" membership is made up of washed up has-beens who really just wanted to get their names out there by any means necessary. I wish Harvey hadn't retreated as he did, I am sure there is a LOT he could have said that certainly would not have exonerated him, but would have shown these high class whores up for the trash they really are. I understand his legal teams concerns that it would have him victim blaming, but I think a skilled writer could have told his story and squashed that image as well. The way it is currently left - is just not justice.

People think mob mentality is restricted to only certain situations - this is visible truth it can apply to ANY situation. Going forward I hope for his sake he finds a way to tell his story. As for the feminazi - they will eventually kill their own movement, they almost always do - simply because the truth always eventually comes to the surface and bites them in their cellulite riddles asses. The problem is that the damage they did will never be unwound.