The state of gay porn nowadays.
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The only way they will ever get control of the situation again is to shut down the tube sites via legal maneuvers. Even though they are getting add dollars from them it is pretty obvious it isn't nearly stemming the losses. As long as a model can Cam4 and make near what they would normally make in porn - it will continue to devolve.
It really comes down to money, no matter how you turn the picture. When models were at their earning zenith, so was the level of "talent", the hottest guys, the hottest scenes - all when the money flowed like water. It isn't just porn that has been affected by the internet, trust. It has gutted pretty much all avenues of retail sales, and will continue to do so.
Exclusivity is king and always has been. If your newest scene is available for free on a multitude of sites within hours of it's release, you are sunk.
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The only way they will ever get control of the situation again is to shut down the tube sites via legal maneuvers. Even though they are getting add dollars from them it is pretty obvious it isn't nearly stemming the losses.
Yeah but said tube sites are mostly controlled by conglomerates such as MindGeek, AEBN and so on, so really there isn't a simple way. On another note, I read that, with Hot House and RagingStallion going bareback, even Falcon will return to the bb scene after many years and, truth be told, I don't like it.
Now pretty much every company is doing bareback and pretty much everywhere I see the same bland, boring, uninspired and unattractive bareback scene and it's very rare to find a scene that doesn't look gross or corny, it's like they want me to drop modern gay porn altogether and alienate as many people as possible with such asinine politics but then again, business gonna business and it's sad that I have to say this because maybe gay porn isn't for me anymore, and I'm 24 years old.
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The only way they will ever get control of the situation again is to shut down the tube sites via legal maneuvers. Even though they are getting add dollars from them it is pretty obvious it isn't nearly stemming the losses.
Yeah but said tube sites are mostly controlled by conglomerates such as MindGeek, AEBN and so on, so really there isn't a simple way. On another note, I read that, with Hot House and RagingStallion going bareback, even Falcon will return to the bb scene after many years and, truth be told, I don't like it.
Now pretty much every company is doing bareback and pretty much everywhere I see the same bland, boring, uninspired and unattractive bareback scene and it's very rare to find a scene that doesn't look gross or corny, it's like they want me to drop modern gay porn altogether and alienate as many people as possible with such asinine politics but then again, business gonna business and it's sad that I have to say this because maybe gay porn isn't for me anymore, and I'm 24 years old.
It has to come to a head at some point in the near future, with all the Cam4 and For fans only shit taking an even bigger piece of their cookie - sites will have to up the ante and go back to "exclusive" contracts, or toss in the cards. I think GISP has got the best over all format, they just need to upgrade the camera work and throw a little more steam on the model search. His scenes always have a feel of spontaneity that is lacking everywhere else.
It's a pretty sad dilemma. I have seen home made stuff cut together from cell phone video that is better than a lot of the new porn scenes.
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I don't think gay porn is in a bad state. There's just so much choice nowadays it can be overwhelming.
Absolutely disagree with this. As far as I'm concerned, there's almost zero choice when it comes to today's porn because all I see are models that look borderline anorexic or guys that pretend to be macho and when they open their mouths it's a tragedy, not even mentioning the actual fuck scene. I just want a balanced guy that represents my kind of fantasy and that is slowly fading away, imo. This is also why I have to find classic videos because there were so many choices way back then. Why else a company like CF is re-releasing old scenes?
Something else that bothers the fuck outta me is the huge amount of bareback scenes. Like I said, I do like them, but that's when I find them once in a while, today is almost everything bareback and because of that, every single scene is half assed and boring as hell. Same thing goes for condom scenes too sometimes, but it just happens that bareback scenes/studios are the majority so it's more noticeable.
Maybe you are getting bored of gay porn. As it was said before, there's so much choice nowadays. For example Bromo or Deviant otter, most of those videos are bareback ok, but you can still find some genuineness and vibrant scenes. Compared to before there is a lack of directing which removed the fantasy you might talked about… When I watch a porn with Jake Deckard, Eric Evans or Christian rock I agree gay porn has changed in many way, but to my mind we can still see this kind of scenes when we look for it.
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Maybe you are getting bored of gay porn. As it was said before, there's so much choice nowadays. For example Bromo or Deviant otter, most of those videos are bareback ok, but you can still find some genuineness and vibrant scenes. Compared to before there is a lack of directing which removed the fantasy you might talked about… When I watch a porn with Jake Deckard, Eric Evans or Christian rock I agree gay porn has changed in many way, but to my mind we can still see this kind of scenes when we look for it.
Or, even better, I'm sick and tired of this industry. I'll say it like it is: I am embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that the art form that is supposed to represent gay male erotica needs some twisted freaky gimmicks to even gain a bare (pun intended) minimum of attention. Come the fuck on, studios like FraternityX, SketchySex and hell, even BROMO shouldn't even exist. Because if you have a bunch of guys and a director and you're out there making content about rape, sexual assault and general drug abuse, that's where you crossed the line for me.
Then you have studios like MEN that keep relying on the same recycled "let's seduce the straight guy" storyline (without even mentioning the underlying messages that they keep sending with those scenes). That could be funny the first time, but that isn't what gay sex is about, not in front of my salad.
And then you have Sean Cody that can't tell the difference between pink and orange. Seriously, I have never seen such a poorly directed studio even when said studio is "supported" by a big porn conglomerate. Don't even get me started on the huge amount of fake wannabe models that are flodding the gay sites as of late.
Oh and bareback, LMAO that's gotta be the biggest of them all. It's utterly sad that once big studios like HotHouse, RagingStallion and Falcon need the bb gimmick to even be able to swim. That's not gonna cut it for me, because I see that as a go-to to mask the boring films they make. Each one of those studios I mentioned had a certain identity a while ago, you could find X model here or Y model there, nowadays everyone is the same and all masked because of the shitty bareback gimmick.
I kinda understand that the internet has almost killed the gay porn landscape, but that doesn't mean they have to be lazy about it. Sorry but if they don't fix that shit, I'll be happy to stick with old movies and remember when gay pornography wasn't so low tier and cheap.
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I agree with a lot of what you have said, the amount of "cesspool" level porn out there is daunting, but what disturbs me more is that it is driven by "search engine results" tabulated by none other than Google. THAT implies there are a shitton of truly disturbed people out there who are now driving the bus. Gay men have taken a back seat to a bunch of closeted perverts. What bothers me almost equally is the ambivalence shown by the majority every time they download one of those scenes. The mind set being, it is just sex, guys fucking - the story does not matter.
I'm sorry, but YES it REALLY does matter. Like it or not, these porn sites are speaking for you in ways people seem to be oblivious to. Don't think for a second the "moral majority" isn't monitoring this garbage on the regular for use in a future sermon. You are letting a bunch of pervs represent you every time you click the download button. Gay men have fought these stereotypes for ever. To think it all means nothing? Ya'll need to wake the fuck up.
Bareback - it's here to stay until the next big strain of mega virus hits. It's only a matter of time. I don't think AIDS was an accident, it was a carefully groomed biological attack. I think it's creators never considered how deeply it could ricochet into hetero lives, or at the very least grossly underestimated the scale, assuming as usual the "collateral damage" would be justified. I think had the virus been somehow exclusively conscripted to gay men, it would still be killing people. It's only a matter of time before they figure out how to make that happen.
The GLBT community has become numb to the things that are really pulling down the property value. Since when did being part of this community mean you abandoned your values, and allowed porn sites to effectively make light of truly disgusting criminal behavior? For those of you who think it doesn't reflect on you? Wow, are you blind. As a teen rape survivor I can tell you it sickens me on levels I can't articulate. For every one of me, there is another who was the victim of incest, or molested at the hands of a priest. The list goes on. Supporting these sites, you are sending a message.
I'll also agree Sean Cody has been a mess lately, but given what I have been reading about how little these sites are actually paying, it is no mystery. A hot guy can pedal his wares in too many other places and probably squash what these studios now offer. It's astonishing the few really hot men there are still bother with it. At this rate it will be nothing but street trade. Corbin Fisher has lowered the standards to the point it is painful to watch. GayHoopla is an absolute JOKE. At the rate these studios are whoring the scenes out to tube sites, I can't grasp the idea of a paid membership anywhere.
My question is this, what exactly are they being paid per scene by the tube site? If I were a model, I'd be suing to see the actual math. I am finding it increasingly difficult to imagine they are not making bank by doing this. Which means these models are being unjustly SHANKED for lack of better term. It has to be lucrative or they would not be doing it, I have suspected for some time now they are hiding the level of profit they take from it. Unfortunately no wealthy entity EVER does "the right thing" because it's right. If I were them, I'd assemble and bring a class action suit to make the figures public. I think they will find they have been "had" at a level even they never suspected.
Going forward for you, I'd round up as many old scenes as you can. By the looks of things it is just going to get worse. I know my "spank bank" would get a thousand gay guys off for the next 200 years, should this planet survive that long. :cool2:
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I wish there was a company that would rerelease the HIS Video catalog! They were the best made porns I wore my dick off to several of them!
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With terabytes to choose from, I become more and more selective bc I cannot afford the time to check everyone out.
Now I'm not much interested in the cock and sex parts, I'm more interested in the face and body.
Face must be masculine, smooth, fair, handsome but not scruffy or bald.
Body must be smooth, muscular, fair like an off season body builder that's meaty yet firm.
The more adjectives used, the narrower and more specific the choice AND the more shallow I am. It's all about ME and my gratification.That's why experts say that porn is messing up the dating scene of straights and gays.
We choose partners like we choose porn. There maybe be thousands to choose from but unlike porn, not everyone is immediately available for "download" and immediate "gratification".Agreed. Also they [studios] seem to think that by adding bareback to their scenes solves the subs problem - it doesn't! The models need to be hot and have chemistry and need to want to fuck another guy's brains out not gay for pay - they're too awkward.
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Hello everyone, many of you don't even know who I am and that's okay, I barely made any posts lately, let alone a new thread, but this is something that's been bothering me for a while and I need to discuss this.
Okay so, I started watching porn when I was a kid. Now, don't get it twisted, it actually was straight porn back then and it was an accident, I didn't even know what the fuck I was watching back then lel. Anyway, only during my teenager days (I'm 24 now) I started to discover the world of gay porn and that was also when I was trying to figure out who I really was, but I digress. Porn was different back then, social media wasn't as big as it is today and porn is accessible pretty much everywhere now, but the real reason that I opened this thread is this: I seem to get bored of watching gay porn quite often lately.
Now, I believe there's nothing wrong with watching porn at all even if you have a normal sex life, porn is meant to be an art form which focus is to entertain those who watch, but lately I think the "entertainment" aspect is almost zero for me. Personally speaking I prefer condom scenes, but I don't mind a bareback scene every once in a while, however we all know how the bareback scene/studios have increased so much over these past few years and more often than not these scene are extremely boring to me. Now, even condom scenes can get boring, the point I'm trying to make is that porn lacks that passion, that feeling of watching two guys who are into it, everything seems bland to me. Doesn't help that I also find some of the actors really bland. I'm really into muscle guys, or at least athletic dudes that don't look like broomsticks, I wanna see the meat, I ain't got time for bones, but hey, that's me. Some people are into the twink category, that's okay, but nobody likes bones and I'm seeing way too many of them lately. I also don't like feminine boys that pretend to be macho guys, that just ain't working, forcing someone in a role that doesn't belong to them is always wrong.
So I now ask you, do you share the same thoughts? Let's discuss. And apologize for any spelling errors, it's 1:40 AM over here ;D
EDIT: And because of that, I may have opened this in the wrong section, can someone move this to the right place please?
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Soo, it's been a while since I made this thread, and needless to say, things in the industry are getting worse. Because now you have drama over at GH where the models (and producer too!) are going somewhere else, some even joined another studio. But that's not the end of the world, it happens all the time. But it doesn't happen very often to see an increase of disturbing plots across the board.
We all know what MEN is capable of when it comes to insult and make fun of the LGBT community and it's no secret that FraternityX/SketchySex keep on relying on all sorts of humiliating gimmicks. As if FamilyDick wasn't enough incest porn, now we have BrotherCrush, a studio based on plots around sexual intercourse between, you guessed it, brothers! What's not to love about fucking your own flesh and blood?
As if that wasn't enough, the latest scene from FamilyDick showcases every single fucked up story you can imagine about gay sex. Incest, kidnapping, sex abuse, pedophilia, gay conversion therapy (!) and many, many more…
If that's what people around the world really fantasize about then I don't wanna live on this planet anymore. How the fuck do you ask for equal rights in the LGBT community if you're also the same kind of deranged fuck that finds arousing sex between sibilings? And don't come here and pretend that it's just fantasy, because this "fantasy" will get your ass to jail in an instant.