@MrMazda I suppose that makes some sense. Tops are under pressure to "perform" whereas bottoms are always ready.
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@MrMazda I suppose that makes some sense. Tops are under pressure to "perform" whereas bottoms are always ready.
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@john32123666 Thanks for the response, but I think you might have misunderstood my question.
I'm curious about how much people get paid for gay porn, and if there's an overall difference between tops and bottoms.
For example, I'd like to know what a relatively new performer might earn for a scene against a studio's star performers. I'm thinking of people like Kyle Ross (RIP) who was a Helix exclusive model and became synonymous with the brand.
Then you have guys like Daniel Hausser, Austin Avery, Dakota Lovell.... They spread themselves around various studios and are obviously in demand, but is this down to low pay and the need to shoot as many scenes as they can?
Also, is there a difference in pay-scales between top, bottom and vers guys? Do performers earn more for fucking or being fucked, or is it entirely down to there looks and fanbase? I would imagine that they would be able to expect more for doing certain things like fisting. Would you expect to be paid the same for a 1 on 1 scene as you would for letting 10 tops take turns on you? And if so, what sort of numbers are we talking about?
Having seen a couple of documentaries about the porn industry in the past I'm curious about how much someone can expect to earn in the gay market.
The documentaries were primarily about the straight porn sector, and made a big deal of women being paid significantly more than their male performing partners. One phrase I distinctly remember is males being referred to as "warm props" which I suppose is understandable as straight men are usually only watching to see the women and don't care who's fucking them.
Does this dynamic bear any correlation to gay porn? Are bottoms in any way favoured over tops by studios, or are tops more in demand and hence paid more? How much might a newbie earn for their first few shoots with a big studio such as Helix or Cockyboys versus one of their big exclusives?
Is it possible to actually earn a living wage in the gay porn industry? There are apparently women who make 6-figure sums in straight porn and use that as their sole income, though I'm sure they are rare if they do actually exist, but I can't imagine the same being true for gay performers.
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge (not speculation) about this?
@MrMazda Don't worry, dear. I think this might become a running joke between us thanks to a third party in another thread.
@john32123666 I have tried that strategy in the past, but results haven't been much better. I just seem to get much higher upload speeds on torrents from the .net site, regularly seeing speeds in excess of 15Mb/s whereas on here I rarely get much over 1 or 2. It could just be luck of the draw, but thought I'd see if there might be something I'm missing in my client.
I'm just curious if there's some way of improving my uploading speeds specifically for this site. If I sort my completed torrent in my client by share ratio then things I've downloaded from here consistently show the lowest ratios when compared to the other 2 sites I visit.
While I'm aware that such things are largely based on how popular a download is, how quickly you join the swarm and some other factors, my current actively seeding files on here top out at a ratio of around 3:1 whereas I see 8 or 9 to 1 on another site and between 50 and 70 on the other.
Is there something I can do to improve my ability to share here, or is it purely down to the characteristics of the swarms I'm in?

@ianfontinell It's B. If you're unsure always go for B. Or A. D in some cases. C is just asking to fail.
Sorry to quote such an old comment, but since this thread has been revived I wanted to point something out.
@yepyep7891 said in Bad ratio preventing download - i have a good ratio:
And what you say about peers, they're not even involved in the download process, so I find this really weird.
Peers are absolutely involved in the download process. I have managed to finish downloads in the past without ever actually connecting to the seeder. If you are connected to peers who have a enough parts to constitute a full copy then you are able to get the whole file from them. If peers played no part in the download process then why would you see upload traffic on a torrent that you're downloading?
@ianfontinell I totally agree. It would allow for unlimited bumping of uploads and create an utter mess.
Found the second one. It was indeed UndieTwinks.
https://undietwinks.com/videos/utw0039_shaneallen_brendankillen?nats=My4yLjM1LjIwMi40MDMuMC4wLjAuMA
It looks like it's included in this collection:
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=5e6ad9752845941531aab4170a5875fb7a08931adfc1c916&hit=1
@bfewf1-0 Can't help specifically, but if you want a kicking off point to continue the hunt I'd suggest looking at UndieTwinks.
@bfewf1-0 First thought was it could be from Eric Videos, but the video quality is too good and it's not amateur enough. Same for Citibeur.
@bfewf1-0 No idea, but doesn't your phone automatically switch to landscape mode if you turn it sideways before taking screenshots? LOL
@trilinium-0 Closest thing I could find with a cursory search
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=6ca37531446193d131aab4170a5875fb747ec16d77ddeffa&hit=1
@davis94 This is a subject that has reared it's head several times in the forum in the past, and I have to agree that there does seem to be a lack of information for uploaders in the rules and FAQ. Ihave left comments in the past asking for mods to provide links the section of the rules that warns users of this possibility but have never had a reply.
I'm not an uploader and as such haven't fallen found of this myself, but it seems genuinely unfair to receive multiple bans in this manner. If someone is banned for something they upload this year and then get a second ban for something from 5 years ago I think that's excessive. A second ban for new uploads would still be fair as it could be said the user hasn't learned their lesson. It's not unlike getting written up at work for a mistake, and then getting written up again for making the same mistake years ago when being trained.
The very fact that you got a second strike mere days after your first ban was up does seem suspiciously coincidental though. It's almost as if the person making the DMCA claim was deliberately waiting to issue the next strike, but that's the kind of paranoid thinking probably best left to the P&D forums.
Sadly I don't see things changing anytime soon. DMCA seems like a bit of tightrope to walk, and I rather suspect that the lack of truly open discussion and accessible information pertaining to it's enforcement on the site is intended to protect the site from legal troubles. If so then I'd have to reluctantly support the decision, but it still results in bans for unlucky users which detracts from the site as a whole. Either way you put a target on your back when you upload.
As for deleting your own torrents I don't know if that would be a good thing to allow or not. I could see it being abused. However, you might be able to get the helpdesk to delete them for you, especially if you can show that certain creators are targeting their content. I'd even go so far as to suggest that when you receive a ban notification it could include a list of your past uploads and ask you if you'd like any or all of them removed to avoid further problems.
@bobberella I downloaded this just to look for myself, and I think you're out of luck. The blue cover on the book at the start of the scene looks homemade, and after a short time it comes off and you can see the ripped red cover of the actual book.