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The whole idea of forcing people to buy insurance is a conservative idea.  It was written by conservatives during the Nixon administration and then kicked around Congress for 30 years until a Republican governor from Massachusetts (the bluest state in the country) decided to implement it in his state.  Romney used to talk a lot about how "freeloaders" were destroying the healthcare system.  They were forcing higher costs on everyone and bankrupting hospitals.  Republicans hate freeloaders so they forced people to pay for their own care.

If the Democrats had their way they would just implement single payer and be done with it.  Instead they were forced to enact a Republican plan and all the Republican snowflakes melted over  it.  Even Romney famously campaigned against his own healthcare plan when he ran for President.  How can you vote for a guy like that?  He claimed he wanted states to design their own programs and that sounds good at first but what do you think is going to happen in states like Alabama and Mississippi? It's just one more way to create inequality in this country.  The biggest problem with states enacting their own programs is that sick people (who are expensive) can simply move to states with better healthcare when they get sick.  I know several people who have moved to Massachusetts because nearly everyone has healthcare here.  It's extremely easy to get on Medicaid and nearly every doctor accepts it.  It's almost unheard of for a doctor not to accept Medicaid in this state.

They can't help that their party has moved so far to the right that they cannot in good conscience move with it. At least John Kasich cared enough about the people of his state to expand Medicaid so that over 700,000 hard working Americans could get health care coverage, and so many small town hospitals wouldn't have to close across Ohio; which is happening in states like North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi. I guess having a heart and a soul makes you "worse than Democrats" if you're a Republican. Let's see how much Ohio likes Agent Orange when he signs a repeal snatching their health insurance from those 700,000 people who would otherwise be uncovered.

As for John McCain, never really been a fan but if he's finally going to put country before party then I can support that. I'm sure he knows the overwhelming majority of Americans did not want this. Low turnout in 2010 and 2014 got us here, not people overwhelmingly turning out to vote Republican. Of course, no one really wanted Hillary either but they also didn't want Agent Orange and he won; therefore, Republicans are in a tough place right now. Can't say my partisan side isn't elated at the moment  :cheers: Good luck with governing Republicans.

Nothing better for the neofascist brigade than trying to piss off Democrats, starting with name calling.

Comey is not in trouble. He has, in fact, nothing to lose but his reputation, whatever you think that might be worth at this point. Please point out where the fired FBI head has accused the infantile POTUS of obstruction. He has made a record of a conversation, maybe of many conversations, with the marmalade Moussellini. Accusations are another matter. Conclusions are another matter. He made a record and kept on keeping on doing his job.

As posted today in a variety of ways by my very own self, Comey is much admired and trusted by the FBI and has been for years. He has made many mistakes, but no one who knows him or who has worked with him thinks he is other than a perfect and an upright man. Buy-Bull believers will recognize the reference.

He keeps records. When pressure is applied, he writes it all down and passes it around so there is a contemporary record. He could have spoken out and resigned, thus allowing Il Douche to get away with a cover-up, but instead he kept on with the intensified probe he was conducting and telling Congress about on a frequent basis, and made particular efforts to make sure that no one actively investigating the ruble-rouser got even a hint of pressure.

Evidence suggests Trump was laundering money for Russian criminals to enrich himself and family. And that he and manymany others were colluding with Putin et Cie. to get those inconvenient Obama sanctions lifted so they can all exploit billions and billions of petrobucks currently barred because Putin was (and still is) actively subverting the US government and its Weakest Link.

He has been mobbed up for decades as part and parcel of his real estate ventures, which sometimes (cf Turkey) even he has said compromise his independence. He has allowed a paid foreign agent access to top level US secrets even after knowing – because he was specifically told repeatedly, even by his own team-- the danger. Meanwhile, the transition team was running around with confidential documents and taking them out of safe places as if they were so many Tinker Toys.

He is on the record saying that you cannot deal with some of the countries making him rich unless you pay bribes. If he or his agencies paid bribes, he is personally and specifically guilty of a crime.

He demanded Comey swear fealty to him, but was thwarted. He demanded Comey return to Hillary e-mails and seek out leakers (hint: since everyone hates him, everyone leaks from every pore of this out of control maladministration). He suggested reporters should be locked up.

Attacking the press with the kind of "useful idiots" spreading his lies on this site, attacking independent courts, independent investigators, and most major US allies (but not Russia! not a single negative word about Russia!) still does not make the bastard competent or lift his poisonous popularity numbers. Up next: financial collapse, because we already have "responsible" Republicans and Trump minions calling for a one-party shut down of the government they hate and have no ability whatever to operate as a governing mechanism.

The Wall St. Journal today says tax "reform" now seems off the pig party agenda. Thanks, Obama.

Do not be distracted by trolls. They may chortle that Comey is dead meat, but someone said you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Today it has set Chelsea Manning free. And a remarkable array of "conservative" opinion spouters are jumping ship, from Andrew Sullivan (HIV+ barebacker) to George Fucking Will, and even elected politicians watching their career evaporate in a puff of smoke as flames leap higher.

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These situations can be a big PIA when they happen.

Some of our fully furnished residences even include computers. There have been only two instances in which our help was requested to deal with *ware, and both times surprisingly were a result of visiting religious sites.

The most-used item for some will be the browser, and there are portable versions available that one can put on a flash thumb drive, and make yet another copy (with all desired bookmarks, etc.) onto a separate flash thumb drive.

It will be an ongoing battle to deal with issues like this, simply because what one person can build, another can destroy.

@aadam101:

@Frederick:

I don't need to comment on this one.  Just click the link and read.

Xhttp://freebeacon.com/politics/five-old-tweets-came-back-haunt-chuck-schumer/  (remove the X to view it)

Trumps old tweets come back to haunt him all the time.  Even this week his euro trash hooker wife insulted Saudi Arabia by not wearing a head scarf.

I don't like Chuck Schumer either  though.  I wish someone else was the face of the Democratic party.

I can't think of anybody in Congress that I'm thrilled with, no matter what party.  Congressmen tend to be megalomaniac lawyers and hairbrained activists.  Most people are turned off by congressmen, which is why most presidents are former governors instead of congressmen. 
What's the opposite of PRO-gress?  CON-ress.

I do think that there should be term limits for congressmen.  Two 6 year terms or one 10 year term is plenty for any of them.

I thought the constant criticism of presidents, past and present is free speech? I always understood that the reason free speech even exists is so people can criticise the president and no repercussions occur

The internet makes it a bit of a mess, I have to say, but all presidents have faced criticism and that is part of the US system. if we apply what you want to all presidents then even some things here said about Obama & Trump would be illegal!

@Frederick:

@magentas:

You want Trump to be a dictator- to do whatever the hell he wants with no explanation.
If it was Obama, you would scream about lack of transparancy.

You defend Trump hiding his taxes when all presidential candidates make them public, and when Trump himself atacked Romney for not making his public, and swore that he would make his public.

And conservatives demanded to see everything about Obama, including old school tests and reports.

When Obama was president, conservatives attacked him relentlessly- does that mean they did not respect the USA?

You are so full of it, it's coming out your ears.
I do not want Trump to be a dictator, however I do want him to be a president without the libtards dictating his actions like a senile old woman back seat driver.

Considering what Obama did for 8 years, he SHOULD have been attacked relentlessly, but was not.

That's what America is.  We have a two party system here.  That's how it works.  You sound like you would be much happier in Russia or North Korea.  They don't have problems like this there.

Obama was attacked every day for 8 years.  You know that.

Frederick, we get it.  You hate liberals (and I assume yourself).  Is there any particular reason you don't post anything positive about conservatives or the Republican party?  Surely given your deep disdain for the left you must have lots off great things to share with us about the right.  Right?

Except that I only know of 1 religion where it's the death penalty for leaving it.

Damn, I'm an islamaphobe now.  :crazy2:

What's the actual point of this thread? There are corrupt and criminal politicians everywhere, Republican, Democratic, or otherwise. Let's turn, for simplicity's sake, to Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

2017–2017 (Trump (R) presidency)
Legislative branch

Corinne Brown (D-FL) was convicted on 18 felony counts of wire and tax fraud, conspiracy, lying to federal investigators, and other corruption charges. (2017)[1]

2009–2017 (Obama (D) presidency)
Executive branch

General David Petraeus (R)[2] Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. On April 23, 2015, a federal judge sentenced Petraeus to two years’ probation plus a fine of $100,000 for providing classified information to Lieutenant Colonel Paula Broadwell.(2015)[3]

Legislative branch

Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)[4]
    Dennis Hastert (R-IL) Speaker of the United States House of Representatives pleaded guilty in court for illegally structuring bank transactions related to payment of $3.5 million to quash allegations of sexual misconduct with a student when he was a high school teacher and coach decades ago.[5] (2016)
    Michael Grimm (R-NY) pleaded guilty of felony tax evasion. This was the fourth count in a 20-count indictment brought against him for improper use of campaign funds. The guilty plea had a maximum sentence of three years; he was sentenced to eight months in prison. (2015)[6][7]
    Trey Radel (R-FL) was convicted of possession of cocaine in November 2013. As a first-time offender, he was sentenced to one year probation and fined $250. Radel announced he would take a leave of absence, but did not resign. Later, under pressure from a number of Republican leaders, he announced through a spokesperson that he would resign. (2013)[8][9][10]
    Rick Renzi (R-AZ) was found guilty on 17 of 32 counts against him June 12, 2013, including wire fraud, conspiracy, extortion, racketeering, money laundering and making false statements to insurance regulators. (2013)[11]
    Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two and one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)[12]
    Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)[13][14]

Judicial branch

Mark E. Fuller (R) U.S. District Judge was found guilty of domestic violence and sentenced to 24 weeks of family and domestic training and forced to resign his position. (2015)[15][16][17]

2001–2009 (George W. Bush (R) presidency)
Executive branch

Scott Bloch (R) United States Special Counsel. pleaded guilty to criminal contempt of Congress for "willfully and unlawfully withholding pertinent information from a House Committee investigating his decision to have several government computers wiped …"[18][19] On June 24, 2013, U. S. District Judge Robert L. Wilkins sentenced Bloch to one day in jail and two years' probation, and also ordered him to pay a $5000 fine and perform 200 hours of community service.(2010) [20]
    David Safavian (R) Administrator for the Office of Management and Budget[21] where he set purchasing policy for the entire government.[22][23] He was found guilty of blocking justice and lying,[24] and sentenced to 18 months. (2008)[25][26]
    Lewis Libby (R) Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney (R). 'Scooter' was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in the Plame Affair on March 6, 2007 and was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000. His sentence was commuted by George W. Bush (R) on July 1, 2007. (2007)[27]
    Lester Crawford (R) Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, resigned after 2 months. Pleaded guilty to conflict of interest and received 3 years suspended sentence and fined $90,000. (2006) [28]
    Claude Allen (R) Director of the Domestic Policy Council, was arrested for a series of felony thefts in retail stores. (2006) He was convicted on one count and resigned soon after.[29]

Legislative branch

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) was charged in August 2005 after the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from his home freezer. He was re-elected to the House in 2006, but lost in 2008. He was convicted November 13, 2009, of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison. (2009)[30] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006) [31]
    Jack Abramoff CNMI scandal involves the efforts of Abramoff to influence Congressional action concerning U.S. immigration and minimum wage laws. See Executive branch convictions. Congressmen convicted in the Abramoff scandal include:

Bob Ney (R-OH) pleaded guilty to conspiracy and making false statements as a result of his receiving trips from Abramoff in exchange for legislative favors. Ney received 30 months in prison. (2007)[32]

Duke Cunningham (R-CA) pleaded guilty November 28, 2005, to charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud and tax evasion in what came to be called the Cunningham scandal and was sentenced to over eight years in prison. (2005)[33]
    Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to four years in prison. (2005)[34]
    Bill Janklow (R-SD) was convicted of second-degree manslaughter for running a stop sign and killing a motorcyclist. Resigned from the House and given 100 days in the county jail and three years probation. (2003)[35]
    Jim Traficant (D-OH) was found guilty on ten felony counts of financial corruption, sentenced to eight years in prison and expelled from the House of Representatives. (2002) [36]

The list goes on and on for decades

@strangeloop:

Ridiculous double standard and barefaced too.

I'm curious as to how taking offense to what is obviously a racist insult and not taking offense to what is obviously not a racist insult is a "double standard?"

@Frederick:

@bobberry:

For fuck's sake, wind your fucking neck in. I'm absolutely pissed off with coming on here and hearing cunts like you whinging on about "libtards", "lefties" and "cucks" - do you know what you sound like? Whining little bitches - that's what. A bunch of pathetic red-neck mouth-breathers with nary an IQ point between you. Dumb, simplistic mother (or more likely father) fuckers who really should get out more from behind their keyboards, if they can't tell the difference between a zygote and a full formed human.

It takes a special kind of stupid to pull your shitty, misconstrued, dim-bulb opinion out of your arse and present it as a viable argument that you think people will take seriously.

It's just a fucking pity abortions weren't mandatory round your way.

I'm tired of people who have nothing to contribute to the forum.. coming in here and denigrating myself and others.   And I don't appreciate your suggestion that I should have been aborted.

I agree Fredrick.. but then, you do not seem to.. you are just as denigrating to others, sometimes.. I have seen posts from all sides of politics on here being rude, denigrating (Libtards is something i still do not understand you using) BUT inferring you should have been aborted is not on in my book

ALL Of us need to practice what we preach or just step away.. I did for awhile and it worked, for me anyway.

@Frederick:

@TheNewt:

No she's not, and Obama was one of the most conservative Presidents we have had in decades.

No offense.. but do you sniff airplane glue?

Ha ha..

;D

Thanks for sharing