Posts made by Frederick

@royalcrown89:

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There are many, many other videos on Youtube and elsewhere that show him telling his audiences to "knock people out" and that protesters used to get "put on stretchers" back in the 1950s and 1960s. I will never forget the North Carolina incident where to young black men were leaving one of his rallies and an old white man elbowed one of them in the face and was charged and convicted of felony assault. The president on many occasions called for violence.

You are not distinguishing between INSTIGATING violence and RETALIATING against violence. 
In the 2015/2016 campaigns, peope were instigating violence - many often PAID to instigate violence.  By far most of the violence was instigated by the left.  I'm sure that there was some of this on the right as well, but nothing like on the left.  What Trump was referring to is RETALIATING against the instigators.

If someone comes lunging at you with a club, one has the choice of either flight or fight (or get beaten up).  Trump chooses to fight.  I can't recall Trump ever calling upon anyone to INSTIGATE violence.

Have any of you ever heard of the father of a murder victim thanking the defense attorney?  I haven't!

He went on TV thanking the Defense Attorney by name.  At the same time, he set up a website asking for donations for himself and his wife who were both 60.  The victim was 33.  The father also called the accused a monster and wanted him executed even though that country has no death penalty.  The father attended the trial, but was almost never in the courtroom.  Instead, he would walk around smoking outside.  The father was constantly creating a media storm by begging to speak with the accused man.  After the trial was over, the accused man agreed to speak with the father.  During the trial, the defense attorney would not allow the accused to speak with the father.  After the trial, the father refused to speak with the accused man!  In other words, he only said he wanted to speak to the accused to cause trouble for the accused. 
I once contacted the father, and told him I had 100% evidence that his son was killed by at LEAST 2 people.  I didn't say the accused was innocent, because that might have turned the father off.  Instead of responding to me, he blocked me from contacting him again!  The father had not seen his son in 15 years.. and was not even aware that his son was gay.

@jamie666:

Facebook is the king of data mining, there is no question about it, and they can run tests on their 'users' similar to those of rats in a laboratory.

The fact is that each user is a potential consumer to them, and with enormous membership, the data they are collecting is mind blowing.  They can data mine keywords and I am fairly certain they have a model for creating predictions of future events.  I have no doubt they will make profits as they continue to develop.  Each like, each share, it all gives them more data and leads to the development of more sophisticated methods of data mining.

Regardless of their so called 'good intentions' such as sharing data with academic researchers, I am skeptical, they are after all a publicly traded company and that means their investors demand a return.

The biggest fear is .. and  this is a reality, is them adapting to actually influence their users for political gain.  I would not be surprised if they have conducted such tests under the guise of bettering social science.  That would be unacceptable and make the recent cyber attack accusations trivial.  If they get caught doing this, it should be made criminal and the leaders held accountable.  Even if they do it for financial gain, there is a difference between commercial activities and misleading their users for monetary gain, it would be dishonest on a massive scale.  I am sure I could word this better, but I think the point is there.

I think the scariest part is that almost nobody is AWARE of what Facebook is doing.  
During the Obama regime, the NSA grew tremendously.  Their storage of personal information was growing exponentially.  They had entire giant warehouses filled with hard drives storing every message, conversation, video, etc. made not only of other countries - which is creepy - but of the USA itself - which is ILLEGAL.  Obama fully supported this.  It was like his own candy store of information.  BUT.. then the backlash came.. and Obama did a backflip (as if he had a choice) and the NSA got it's balls cut off.   Guess who took their place?  In many regards.. FACEBOOK.  
I have one example.. Facebook demands cell phone numbers.  How is it that I don't give my cell phone numbers to ANYBODY.. yet I get 10 telemarketers per day calling my cell phone.. and asking for the fake names I use on Facebook?  I get postal mail from marketers addressed to my fake Facebook names.   Hmm?

@Shami94:

No, it is the place where most of Google's software get's written and probably most of the software you are using right now.

This should make Shami happy… tonight President Donald John Trump got on TV and essentially gave Pakistan a red line.. and gave  India a green line!

@Shami94:

Yes you are right. People who believe 2 + 2 = 5 have just as much right to their opinion as people who believe 2 + 2 = 4 and no one should interfere with their right to express themselves and people should be more respectful of their views.

When the 2 + 2 = 5ers set up a protest against the 'politically correct' 2 + 2 = 4ers, they should be allowed to protest in peace and if the protest turns violent when a counter protest from the 2 + 2 = 4ers turns up, both sides are wrong. There are good people on both sides of the argument.

After all, when someone gives you $2 and then another person gives you $2, surely it is a good thing that you end up with $5 in your hand? That is why we voted for Trump.

I was not aware that you voted for Trump.  Congratulations!  Maybe you aren't as stupid as I thought.

You did mention something that is a great point, even though you got it wrong. 
It is NOT OK to propagate misinformation such as 2+2=5    Anybody who publishes something that is false should either have to identify it as being false to begin with (by giving it the label comedy, drama, or fiction) or make a retraction to correct themselves.

@Shami94:

No, it is the place where most of Google's software get's written and probably most of the software you are using right now.

No way.  India programmers are mediocre.  They DID develop one of the versions of Windows - which was even more of a disaster than other versions of Windows.

The best programmers in the world are typically in Russia, Ukraine, Finland, USA.  India is pretty good actually.. but it's odd that it's neighbor Pakistan is useless when it comes to computers.  In fact, I think you will find that when people have negative things to say about India..  what they are really referring to are those Pakistanis.

@Shami94:

Hahahaha read your own link moron. Look at "population" in the side bar.

Weird that you obviously don't know this basic stuff from general knowledge but you have to run off and google it and then misinterpret what you read.

I am looking at the side bar right now..  25 million people live in 9 metropolitan cities in South Korea.  Seoul has 10 million of them. 
You remind me of Aadam101 who gets it wrong.. gets it wrong again.  and when corrrected.. gets it wrong again.

I find it fascinating that RoyalCrown has to go back 28 years to find something to comment about.

It's pretty obvious that the 5 punks committed a crime.. HOWEVER.. I am taking a look at this case and have some comments that should make RoyalCrown happy. 
If you want, give me the names and ages (and exact birthdates if you can) and I will look up those "fellows" charged in the attacks.  I have found some, but not all of their names and ages.  I have not yet done background checks on them.

REGARDLESS of that… 
The death penalty is stupid.  It costs far more to execute someone than to keep them in prison for a lifetime.  Far too often, people sentenced to death have been later found to be not guilty.  (the man I sometimes refer to would have been executed if the country he is in had the death penalty.. a lot of people are going to pay dearly when it is revealed that not only is he not guilty, but the proof that he is not guilty was always there - but ignored.  The actual killer was a drag queen that lived directly above the accused man.  The drag queen committed suicide a few months after the murder).  Given the choice between a lifetime in prison and a quick painless execution.. it would be far more punishing to keep them in prison.  Dead people feel no pain or remorse.

Some, if not all of the accused Central Park 5 were minors at the time.  suggesting that they should be executed is absurd.  You don't execute minors.  The reasoning part of the human brain is not even fully developed until about 25 years of age.

The victim was not killed.. and executing someone for rape is absurd.  At the MOST, they should castrate a rapist - not execute.

It seems that the accused 5 were OVERCHARGED.  The woman was raped, but since there were several people involved, it is difficult, if not impossible to PROVE guilt unless you find their DNA up in her vag.  They did find DNA of one person whom was not one of the 5 charged.  The only way you could prove rape is if they confessed to doing it themselves.  Even then, I don't think they were sufficiently represented, nor old enough to be making a confession.  Furthermore, even if they did make a legitimate confession, the fact that they made the confession should have resulted in a plea bargain where they would NOT be convicted of rape - otherwise why would anybody confess to anything?  Keep in mind that at least 10% of people who confess to rape only do so as a plea bargain to avoid more severe punishment.

There is a big question of what those five were doing at Central Park at 9:30PM.  I doubt very much they were there to have a picnic or feed the pigeons.

I think the biggest issue with that case is how the punishment for rape is so severe, and the burden of proof is so low.  One simple example of that... a man and woman have sex.  The man dumps the woman after sex, or doesn't call her back, or gave her a fake phone number, or didn't pay her, or gets an STD, or finds out the man has a girlfriend / wife, or gets pregnant, etc.  The woman who was completely consensual at the time, and perhaps even seduced the man, is then pissed off, and decides to file rape charges.  Pretty much no male is safe from that scenario.  There have been countless cases in the news of celebrities charged with rape.. and this happens all the time with non-celebrities as well.

I am not shedding any tears for those 5 thugs.. but they were not treated properly by the judicial system.  Trump's biggest fault has been how much faith he puts in the police and the judicial system.  They should have been charged with lesser crimes, and spent a couple of years in jail.  The compensation they eventually got was grossly excessive.  Four of them got $7.1 million.. the 5th got $12.2 million.

Here are the names and ages of the 5 thugs.. or I should really say three...
Korey Wise            18      1 traffic citation
Raymond Santana  15    41 theft, 90 prostitution
Yusef Salaam        16    4 robbery, 4 rape
Antron McCray      16    6 traffic citations
Kevin Richardson    16    4 Sodomy, 4 robbery, 5 rape, 4 2nd degree murder

Keep in mind that almost all of these charges are BEFORE the Central Park event.  (the traffic citations are after)
The jury were probably not OFFICIALLY made aware of the crimes of Santana, Salaam, McCray, and Richardson because they were juveniles at the time. 
Of the 5.. two seem to be "clean"
Santana is obviously a thief and prostitute - but otherwise clean

Yusef Salaam is a robber who can't keep his dick in his pants..
Kevin Richardson..  that guy truly belongs in prison - it seems he had participated in crimes with Yusef Salaam.

The guy with the lavendar scarf is the prostitute..  :bsex:

I hope RoyalCrown is happy now..

@raphjd:

Facebook only like free speech, when it's speech they agree with.

I mean, an algorithm to bury anti Hillary news.   FFS.

You can see ISIS beheading people on FB, but they ban for wrong think.

In the past, a huge deal was made in elections about "equal time".  Media outlets were forced to give candidates equal time.  If they did an interview with one candidate.. they had to do it with another also.  When a celebrity such as Reagan, Arnold Swarznegger, Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, or Sonny Bono was running for something, their tv shows and movies could not be broadcast.  The premise of that is to make things fair.  Contrast that with almost all the mainstream media and all the late night clowns attacking Trump and the country just to get some ratings.  Even Fox news does this.  A few days ago, the media were set up like vultures in Boston not for any news story.. but in ANTICIPATION that a riot would break out.

@mhorndisk:

Yep you meant to say Hillary. Cuz you're a racist.

I guess if moonbats support the racist Hillary.. they must all go leap off a bridge?

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That darned Mark Twain using that n-word!  Moonbats will be burning his books!

Roman Empire was built upon slavery.. as was the USA.. they must be expunged from history!  (according to the moonbats).

In China, the average citizen is a slave now.

@mhorndisk:

I think the ultimate goal is to blow up the pyramids because they were built by slaves. Then they will have their big fantasy orgy.

Michael Obama said the White House was built by slaves.. so that has to be torn down.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/25/michelle-obama/michelle-obama-correct-white-house-was-built-slave/

@mhorndisk:

And your little dog too!!! Now FLY my prettys!!!

Hillary is so vain…
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@mhorndisk:

And your little dog too!!! Now FLY my prettys!!!

Cant touch Hillary!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zcTGTFNXJss

Since Judaism, Chrisitianity, Islam and Hinduism are all complicit with slavery..  I guess the moonbats will be boycotting religion?

Take a look at this for example…
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=leviticus%2025:44-46&version=NIV

@mhorndisk:

You say that all the opinions and views opposed to you are being silenced. That's ridiculous. Only the views of those who oppose you are seen??? My God! How ridiculous! What are you smoking? Raph has allowed you to say whatever you want to!!! You are saying that Raph is "silencing" the views of those who disagree with him, yet here you are. It's absurd! Good grief man, that is some ridiculous stuff.

The moonbats very rarely say anything other than to say "your wrong!"  When they do say something, it is either taken out of context with omissions, or completely fake. 
This relates directly to that myserious case that I sometimes refer to.  In that case, they tricked the accused into pursuing an insanity plea instead of having a trial in which they had to prove the man was guilty of the crime.  The crooked defense attorney made no attempt to defend his client.  All he did was try and establish that his client was insane.  That was the only way they could get a conviction, because all the evidence actually points to the man being not guilty.  Ironically, the defense attorney convinced the jury that the man is insane.  The prosecution insisted he was sane, and pointed out that what he told the psychiatrist was false nonsense just to pursue an insanity plea.  So, the man would have gotten his insanity verdict.. and been out in a couple of years if not for one thing.  At the very last moment, before the jury was sent out to deliberate the case, the defense attorney shocked everyone by telling them to IGNORE all 5 defense psychiatrists who unanimously stated that the man IS insane.  It's also quite ironic that the 5 defense psychiastrists all have the same boss… Their boss was the prosecution's psychiatrist!!!!!  How corrupt is that?  This caused a massive problem with the jury.  The judge would not allow a mistrial, and told the jury that they would be sequestered as long as it took for them to deliver a verdict.  They could not acquit the man, because he was forced to not deny doing the crime (even though he never did confess to it).  They could not find him insane, because both the prosecution - and at the last moment, the defense told them he was not insane.  What does that leave?  guilty!
Again.. don't worry about it.. in the end.. all will be explained and the man freed. 
I wish you moonbats were a bit more skilled at debating because you are far too easy to defeat.

@royalcrown89:

Another one of your problems Frederick, you either don't know how to read or you can't comprehend what someone is saying. I AM NOT CALLING FOR THE REMOVAL OF RAPHJD. We need more than one moderator for this forum. That person can work either with raphjd or independent of him; but the fact remains, we need more than just him. He has effectively shown that he can separate his personal opinions from his moderating, and I will continue to applaud him on that. However, he has done little to stop the childishness in this forum. If he did more, more people would be participating. This forum is toxic and you have contributed HEAVILY to that toxicity. There needs to be another moderator who is willing to stop the childishness and other bad behavior that has discouraged so many from participating. The moderator doesn't have to be a "moonbat" or anyone who personally identifies with the left. The person needs to come in with the dedication to make this forum open to everyone who wants to participate without childish attacks and uncivil behavior from users like you. Of course you're not going to understand that because you're one of the troublemakers.

Hmm.. you may be right.  Would you like me to help moderate this group?

@royalcrown89:

@Frederick:

@royalcrown89:

Hmm, I wonder who the three users are who would rather be uncivil than make an attempt to stop the childish name calling and constant deflection/derailment. Who could those three users be? :blind:

Either way, I'm ending my call for more civility because it's clear at this point this forum is beyond repair unless another moderator is appointed or more rules are made. It was a one-sided effort this whole time and while that's sad, it's opened my eyes. The president isn't the only person who has shown his true colors recently.

I never cast a vote in your poll which offered no intelligent answer. 
I see that you are making your own mini ultimatum by saying either this group must go or the moderator must go.   I think I will post my OWN poll.

You either want to be civil or you don't. There's no way to misconstrue that. And no, I am not calling for the removal of raphjd, I'm calling for there to be more than one person moderating this forum because it is not a forum where ALL people feel welcome to post comments without their threads being derailed and/or being called a bunch of childish names and their reputation down-voted just for speaking their mind. I am also NOT calling for the removal of this forum, either. This forum is a place for free speech and I am for free speech, but what I am against is constant derailment, deflection, and pettiness by users like you. When have you ever made an argument on here, stuck to that argument, backed that argument up with FACTS, defended said argument and then came to a conclusion on here? I can answer that for you Frederick, NEVER. You have never done that.

Somehow the word "ALWAYS" got replaced with "NEVER" in your statement.

No wonder I have a nice lonnnnnnnnnng green line of reputation… whilst you have a nasty lonnnnnng RED line which is well deserved.

It's amazing how tolerate the moderator of this group is with the moonbats who constantly demand that he censor comments they don't like, yet at the same time demand the right to post lies and fake news without being criticized.

@royalcrown89:

Hmm, I wonder who the three users are who would rather be uncivil than make an attempt to stop the childish name calling and constant deflection/derailment. Who could those three users be? :blind:

Either way, I'm ending my call for more civility because it's clear at this point this forum is beyond repair unless another moderator is appointed or more rules are made. It was a one-sided effort this whole time and while that's sad, it's opened my eyes. The president isn't the only person who has shown his true colors recently.

I never cast a vote in your poll which offered no intelligent answer. 
I see that you are making your own mini ultimatum by saying either this group must go or the moderator must go.  I think I will post my OWN poll.