Posts made by Frederick
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RE: Greedy moonbats don't like Trump
This answers a question I had for a long time.. why is it that New Jersey and New York voted for Hillary? THIS is WHY!
Furthermore.. the media in the USA is monopolized by New York and California. By pissing off those 2 states.. you have all the media outlets and all the celebrities against you.
The first paragraph assumes that the election was about policy when it was about personality and a perception of social equality. The election was a terrible choice. NY and NJ voted Hilary because they hated Trump and Trump was a proxy for a certain portion of the electorate; the reverse is also true. The number of people who understood the real issues were in the minority across the board.
Your second paragraph is true. It's a sign that all the propaganda didn't and isn't working absolutely – no doubt it's in part to POTUS being able to communicate directly through Twitter.
I was not clear enough in my previous post. I didn't mean to imply what the election was about.. but what minor issues tipped the scales. Frankly, despite all the negativity and fake news hurled at Trump.. he STILL won. The problem with the dems is that they peaked too early.. and by the time the election rolled around, a lot of their attacks fell flat or backfired.
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RE: Something Trump is wrong about..
cteavin said he supports 10% of those executed being innocent. This goes hand in hand with feminists and their cucks advocating that we JUST BELIEVE and send men to prison simply on a woman's say so, claiming that only 2% to 8% will be innocent. In your cuckery, you either can't see how the 2 are directly related or, and most likely the case, you are so dishonest that you don't want me shining a light on the issue. You don't really have an issue with me disagreeing with cteavin, you are just butt hurt that I show feminists for the kind of people they truly are.
(queue fake angry black woman accent) Giiiirl, don't you be putting words in my mouth. (imagine emjoi of said black woman doing that head bob thing)
I want to be clear, I'm telling you there are two principle ways to write laws. One writes them to avoid putting the innocent in prison, releasing the guilty who go on to become repeat offenders. The 10% was a hypothetical, arbitrary number. The other option is to create a strict penal code that keeps the guilty in prison with a higher number of innocent.
Those two options are on a continuum. As long as people are judged by circumstantial evidence, our choice will remain on that sliding scale. The feminism argument you keep going back to (sigh) puts a higher number of innocent in jail; it also adds an element of tribalism to the argument and if you're going to insist upon that, then you must also bring into this discussion the disproportionate number of blacks in jail, which complicates things a lot.
It's not secret that cops often arrest white people just to make it seem like they are not picking on blacks. "Billy Bo Bob! Yew better go throw a cracker or two in the can before you go splitting the skull of another ******!"
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RE: Do we need a word like "cis" or "cis gender"?
I woke up a bit ago, sat down to read the online news with my first few cups of caffeine with a gorgeous blue sky visible from my window – ready to take on the day! -- when my eyes are assaulted with someone ranting about "cisgender" this and that.
Talk about killing the mood.
I think I'm one step out of touch with western thinking on this, or am I? Is there really a need to distinguish cis from trans? What am I missing?
The word "cisgender" is very popular recently. It means that one identifies as being the gender they were born with (opposite of trans).
I think the reason it's suddenly so popular is that it is widely mentioned in the new Southpark Game "Fractured But Whole" (which I completed and didn't like), and the new Southpark Episodes. -
RE: "Planned Parenthood"?
@Icc:
Why would an organization that exists to ABORT babies from UNPLANNED pregnancies be called "PLANNED PARENTHOOD"?
I should hope that there is nothing PLANNED about an abortion (although I can think of at least one woman who said she was going to get pregnant just so she could exercise her right to have an abortion). Abortion does not lead to PARENTHOOD.
I'm trying to think of a better name for their group. Hmm… how about "Snip My Baby's Brain Stem To Prevent Parenthood"?
SMBBSTPP
It's kind of catchy...
"S-M-B-B.... S-T-P-P"Youre not very smart. You think you are but no. Just more bullshit.
:police: Either ad something of value to the conversation of leave the thread. Your post borders on flaming because it has nothing but insults without further comment to justify what you said. :police:
Yes, and he hurt my feelings. I was crying my eyes out for hours. It reminds me of when I was raped by Lacy Green! :blownose:
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Greedy moonbats don't like Trump
Here is a list of the 7 states (and DC) which have the highest STATE income taxes:
New York 8.82%
California 13.3%
DC 8.95%
New Jersey 8.97%
Vermont 8.95%
Oregon 9.9%
Iowa 8.98%
Minnesota 9.85%Currently, states that collect income taxes not only get that money, but since those taxes are deductible from the FEDERAL income taxes, the rest of the country is subsidizing those states. That is clearly not fair.
President Trump has been advocating that the deduction for state income taxes be eliminated for years. He pointed out that it was not fair to the other states to have to subsidize states that have state income taxes. Obviously he is correct.Notice something about that list. The only state in that list that did not go for Trump in the election is Iowa.
Those 6 states and DC comprised MOST of Hillary's electoral votes!Now consider the most horrible thought of all time.. that Hillary won the election. If she did, it would have been because Trump insisted on doing the right thing and taking away the unfair tax advantages of massive states such as New York, New Jersey, and California.
This answers a question I had for a long time.. why is it that New Jersey and New York voted for Hillary? THIS is WHY!
Furthermore.. the media in the USA is monopolized by New York and California. By pissing off those 2 states.. you have all the media outlets and all the celebrities against you.
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RE: "Planned Parenthood"?
@Icc:
Why would an organization that exists to ABORT babies from UNPLANNED pregnancies be called "PLANNED PARENTHOOD"?
I should hope that there is nothing PLANNED about an abortion (although I can think of at least one woman who said she was going to get pregnant just so she could exercise her right to have an abortion). Abortion does not lead to PARENTHOOD.
I'm trying to think of a better name for their group. Hmm… how about "Snip My Baby's Brain Stem To Prevent Parenthood"?
SMBBSTPP
It's kind of catchy...
"S-M-B-B.... S-T-P-P"Youre not very smart. You think you are but no. Just more bullshit.
Someone fairly new to this forum has often chastised me for being harsh with the moonbats. I hope he sees your comments Icc.. because your comments explain the need to treat you moonbats as insects that need to be squashed. There is no point in trying to have a constructive, rational exchange with someone like yourself who has their bowels emptying out their head instead of their ass.
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RE: "whites move to the back"
@Icc:
That's the thing. Blacks especially, but Hispanics as well, are calling for special rights and even segregation ala Jim Crow.
There's that infamous video of the black students all butt hurt at Yale and the one black chick screeching that it's not a place of learning but a home.
I believe it was Yale as well where they were all gathered around and an Asian student got their turn and lit into the black students for being racist toward them. The mike was snatched away and told the event wasn't about in fighting but fighting against white people.
In Portland, one of the colleges had "anti whiteness" seminars.
At Evergreen college they had the event were whites were told they weren't allowed on campus because they were white. Of course, Evergreen has had a lot of anti white shit happen over the last 2 years especially.
More recently, there's the group of mostly illegal Hispanics screeching that exams are racist and that the non white students should be able to simply do an essay using their textbooks at home, while the cracker students take the exams like normal. These idiots were screaming that exams were "white supremacy".
The sad part is, SJWs are too stupid to see what is actually going on.
It's not just stupidity.. but other things such as ignorance. For instance, during the 2016 campaign, I spent a lot of time giving information to specific groups to educate them.
I pointed out to various NAACP groups how Hillary is closely tied to KKK Sen. Robert Byrd and Margaret Sanger "black people are like weeds".
I also did things like point out to retired people and people on fixed incomes that their savings and fixed stipends (such as social security) would not be worth much if the minimum wage were raised to $15 an hour. To make that point easy to see.. exaggerate the numbers a bit. If someone managed to save up $100,000 in their lifetime… but then even the lowest paid workers were making $100,000 per year.. That $100,000 in savings isn't worth diddly-doo.Who asked you to "educate them"?
Obviously nobody ever asked to have you educated.
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RE: "whites move to the back"
That's the thing. Blacks especially, but Hispanics as well, are calling for special rights and even segregation ala Jim Crow.
There's that infamous video of the black students all butt hurt at Yale and the one black chick screeching that it's not a place of learning but a home.
I believe it was Yale as well where they were all gathered around and an Asian student got their turn and lit into the black students for being racist toward them. The mike was snatched away and told the event wasn't about in fighting but fighting against white people.
In Portland, one of the colleges had "anti whiteness" seminars.
At Evergreen college they had the event were whites were told they weren't allowed on campus because they were white. Of course, Evergreen has had a lot of anti white shit happen over the last 2 years especially.
More recently, there's the group of mostly illegal Hispanics screeching that exams are racist and that the non white students should be able to simply do an essay using their textbooks at home, while the cracker students take the exams like normal. These idiots were screaming that exams were "white supremacy".
The sad part is, SJWs are too stupid to see what is actually going on.
It's not just stupidity.. but other things such as ignorance. For instance, during the 2016 campaign, I spent a lot of time giving information to specific groups to educate them.
I pointed out to various NAACP groups how Hillary is closely tied to KKK Sen. Robert Byrd and Margaret Sanger "black people are like weeds".
I also did things like point out to retired people and people on fixed incomes that their savings and fixed stipends (such as social security) would not be worth much if the minimum wage were raised to $15 an hour. To make that point easy to see.. exaggerate the numbers a bit. If someone managed to save up $100,000 in their lifetime… but then even the lowest paid workers were making $100,000 per year.. That $100,000 in savings isn't worth diddly-doo. -
RE: Something Trump is wrong about..
Unfunny, bordering on sad. And those are my citations for, and about, you. Goodnight.
Don't forget to put on a fresh Depends and have your Ensure before you take your nappy.
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RE: "Planned Parenthood"?
You slithered by that one…
The name of the organization is "Planned Parenthood" yet it's overwhelming goal is to PREVENT "Parenthood".
I think they should try renaming it to the more appropriate "Snip My Baby's Brain Stem To Prevent Parenthood" and see how people react.I know, right. I go to Burger King and am waited on by mere serfs – I came for The King. And where is the cocain in my Coca Cola? And The Pill? Pure bullshit, it's not ONE pill but an a lifetime commitment.
Planned Parenthood has a range of services. Some, like providing hormones for trans people, shouldn't be offered, imho. If you're trying to be clever with wordplay, you fell short. If you're trying to point out that the government shouldn't fund PP because part of planning for parenthood is abortion, well, that is an interesting topic.
I'm not sure about this.. but my understanding is that birth control pills are only supposed to be used for a few years. Using them for a lifetime is problematic.
My sister-in-law didn't like the idea of taking pills, so she got implants in her arm. Again, those are not meant to be used for a lifetime. She used them continuously for decades and wound up with what was supposed to be terminal cancer. I have not seen her in years. I think she is still alive, but hanging on by a thread. I would guess that she is on chemo, and if she discontinued the chemo she would die. But.. chemo long-term will also kill someone. Quite a price to pay for some birth control. -
RE: Something Trump is wrong about..
Gotta love the uneducated misandrist left. They claim that western women are oppressed, but can't give even 1 issue that hasn't been debunked or that's not laughable.
ANYWHOOOOOO,
As a feminist cuck, you should already know all this. Or are you one of those cucks that just pipe up in agreement whenever your feminist overlords says something without caring what she says?
Lacy Green (and many other feminists) did a series of videos about sexual assault and rape and the JUST BELIEVE campaign. JUST BELIEVE is where you don't question a female who cries rape, you just believe. Anyway, Lacy said that no one, but especially females, never, ever lie about sexual assault and rape.
Anyway, as a backlash, people (males and females) flocked to Lacy Green's various social media accounts and accused her of sexually assaulting and/or raping them. It was estimated 4 million people this. Based on the JUST BELIEVE campaign, Lacy Green should have been locked up immediately, but because she has a vag, she got away with it contrary to the campaign she was an active leader of.
Most feminists say that only 2% of rape claims are false. If you do a bit of Googling, you will see that this is comes from a judge's speech and he got the figure from a pamphlet by a feminist group. A few years ago, some feminists finally started admitting this. As far as I know, Rebecca Watson was the 1st to admit that is was higher, but still only 8%. Of course, there are studies that show it's higher than than the 2% to 8% feminists claim.
We've gone over this stuff here plenty of times before and it still shocks the fuck out of me that feminist cucks never seem to know any of this stuff. In another couple of weeks I'll have to explain this exact same shit to another feminist cuck, because they've never heard of it. yada, yada, yada….............. It's never ending.
It's like the "white people go around" anti-white racist event at Berkeley. I posted about it when it happened and have to explain it countless times because SJWs have no fucking idea what it is.
Yeah, but you see, we don't care to memorize or archive your prodigious extrusions. You write a post? You make a claim? Cite your sources. Each time.
You humor yourself, thinking that we are "following" your posts like some celebrity's Twitter feed, or grad school lecture notes.
This thread of F's originally was about Trump and the death penalty – go see for yourself! But by the bottom of page 1, you took issue with ct, and out of nowhere and apropos of nothing, you bring out the "SJW/feminist" accusation and related dogma.
It is so damn tiresome at this point, there will be no further response, so fire the torpedoes in your usual, classy way.
This is one ripe pile of manure. I suspect you are picking on RaphJD because you are jealous of his 9 inch cock.
You mentioned giving sources. Nobody gives more sources more consistently than the two highest ranking members of this site.. and you moonbats are notorious for almost never giving sources. -
RE: Something Trump is wrong about..
To answer your question; NO INNOCENT MAN SHOULD BE SENT TO PRISON OR EXECUTED.
And that is not an option. It is impossible to have a perfect system where no person, over a length of time, is ever wrongly incarcerated or executed.
So you're, Fred and raphjd, choosing to let 99 people go free to protect the chance of one innocent from being wrongly accused. Fine. That's your choice.
Nonsense… frankly nobody should be executed... but if you are going to execute someone, that person should be proven to be guilty without a doubt and without any shenanigans / perjury in the trial.
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RE: "Planned Parenthood"?
Why would an organization that exists to ABORT babies from UNPLANNED pregnancies be called "PLANNED PARENTHOOD"?
I should hope that there is nothing PLANNED about an abortion (although I can think of at least one woman who said she was going to get pregnant just so she could exercise her right to have an abortion). Abortion does not lead to PARENTHOOD.
I'm trying to think of a better name for their group. Hmm… how about "Snip My Baby's Brain Stem To Prevent Parenthood"?
SMBBSTPP
It's kind of catchy...
"S-M-B-B.... S-T-P-P"Sigh.
Yes, by all means, Planned Parenthood offers abortion referral and services. They also offer birth control services – a nice way to reduce the former! -- along with general health care, HIV services, LGBT-focused services, pregnancy testing, and yes, even men's health services.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care/our-services
According to a 2015 CNN article updated in August, Planned Parenthood reports that 80% of its patients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/04/health/planned-parenthood-by-the-numbers/index.html
And you can choose to believe it or not, doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. It is a shame, though, that you feel compelled to float such an easily dismissed claim.
I realize a number of your recent political threads – some about Trump, and all of them far more more interesting -- were commandeered to off-topic screeds about the pernicious evils of women. But it's a very tired bandwagon. And as far as this Planned Parenthood nonsense, I fear I must put the receiver down.
..."click."
You slithered by that one…
The name of the organization is "Planned Parenthood" yet it's overwhelming goal is to PREVENT "Parenthood".
I think they should try renaming it to the more appropriate "Snip My Baby's Brain Stem To Prevent Parenthood" and see how people react. -
Pastor is a bad boy…
I am just stating some facts to make this post SHORT instead of a book long dissertation…
My father and his second wife went to a baptist church just to get their purchased baby enrolled in that church's private school.
The girl did her entire education at that church school from pre-school to graduation.
My dad's 2nd wife got a job doing day care for 4 year old's at the school just so she could be near the adopted girl all day long.
The girl was too lazy to leave for school 30 minutes early when my dad's wife had to arrive, so my dad was forced to drive the girl to school.
My dad was a manager of an office, where many of the workers showed up at 6 AM.. and my dad was not able to there until 9 AM.
That allowed the workers to shave, eat breakfast, read newspaper, etc. on company time every day because he was not there. DISASTER!
Dad's wife was doing things like tying the 4 year old's up, stuffing them in closets, not allowing them to go to restroom (peeing in pants).
When caught after many years, lied and blamed someone else.
After dad's 2nd wife died (thank you Jesus!) I had to move back here to take care of dad. He continued to go to that church.
He didn't go to the church for worship.. but for a singles club that the pastor set up. (they also set up a non-alcohol nightclub for teens).
The pastor - acting as a pimp - set my dad up with a woman from India who wanted to marry an American to get citizenship.
The woman refused to tell my dad where she lived, her last name, or even her telephone number!
Woman said she didn't want to waste her cell phone minutes talking to my dad!
My dad dreamed of riding his bicycle with her in the park (they both rode bicycles).
My dad bought a wedding ring, and he went as far as picking her up to drive her to get the marriage license.
I knew what my dad wanted, and I knew what she was after.. and I managed to convince my dad to ask her some things.
I planted a recorder in the car, the woman demanded to have her own bedroom.. own bathroom.. she would not sleep with him.. she would not clean for him, she would not cook for him.. and she would be gone about 6 months per year travelling around the world.
My dad was OK with all of that.. incredibly.. but then said "I can't wait to ride my bicycle in the park with you!" She responded "NO! When I ride my bike that is my private time with GOD!" That was the last straw.. my dad dropped her off at the shopping center he picked her up at (since she would not tell him where she lived) instead of driving to get the marriage license. She was deported about 10 days later.It was such an obvious scam.. I kept out of it because I knew that it was going nowhere... but once over, I called up the pastor of the church - not realizing at the time that HE is the one that set it up! Let's just say.. we had some "words".
My dad continued to go to the singles club at that church.. but he was no longer welcome after dumping that bitch. My dad had me take him to the weekly dinner at that church... one night after dinner.. my dad was sitting in the lobby while I went to the little boys room. When I got out, I saw that the pastor and the security guard of the church had ambushed my father (who has Alzheimers). I walked over and the pastor was livid. He told me to shut up, and pointed to the opposite side of the room and instructed me to go away. I laughed at him. The pastor then instructed the security guard to call the police, and the PASTOR threatened to beat me up! I was in shock! I laughed at him again. The security guard couldn't get his cell phone to work or something.. so, I told my dad to get up, and walked out.. and I was loudly chewing out the pastor's ass so that a lot of people heard. The silver lining to this is.. I HATED having to bring my dad to church... and that was the END of going to church!
Fast forward 6 months. That pastor was no longer at that church. He was fired. He set up his own church in some remote city in Florida that I never heard of before. He isn't pastor their anymore either. It seems this pimp pastor set up a "GoFundMe" page with a goal of $20,000 supposedly to benefit a family in need. "Someone" did a bit of investigating.. and found out that the family it was supposed to benefit did not exist! WHOOOPS!
Somebody better call his momma! -
"Planned Parenthood"?
Why would an organization that exists to ABORT babies from UNPLANNED pregnancies be called "PLANNED PARENTHOOD"?
I should hope that there is nothing PLANNED about an abortion (although I can think of at least one woman who said she was going to get pregnant just so she could exercise her right to have an abortion). Abortion does not lead to PARENTHOOD.
I'm trying to think of a better name for their group. Hmm… how about "Snip My Baby's Brain Stem To Prevent Parenthood"?
SMBBSTPP
It's kind of catchy...
"S-M-B-B.... S-T-P-P" -
RE: Something Trump is wrong about..
Gotta love the uneducated misandrist left. They claim that western women are oppressed, but can't give even 1 issue that hasn't been debunked or that's not laughable.
ANYWHOOOOOO,
As a feminist cuck, you should already know all this. Or are you one of those cucks that just pipe up in agreement whenever your feminist overlords says something without caring what she says?
Lacy Green (and many other feminists) did a series of videos about sexual assault and rape and the JUST BELIEVE campaign. JUST BELIEVE is where you don't question a female who cries rape, you just believe. Anyway, Lacy said that no one, but especially females, never, ever lie about sexual assault and rape.
Anyway, as a backlash, people (males and females) flocked to Lacy Green's various social media accounts and accused her of sexually assaulting and/or raping them. It was estimated 4 million people this. Based on the JUST BELIEVE campaign, Lacy Green should have been locked up immediately, but because she has a vag, she got away with it contrary to the campaign she was an active leader of.
Most feminists say that only 2% of rape claims are false. If you do a bit of Googling, you will see that this is comes from a judge's speech and he got the figure from a pamphlet by a feminist group. A few years ago, some feminists finally started admitting this. As far as I know, Rebecca Watson was the 1st to admit that is was higher, but still only 8%. Of course, there are studies that show it's higher than than the 2% to 8% feminists claim.
We've gone over this stuff here plenty of times before and it still shocks the fuck out of me that feminist cucks never seem to know any of this stuff. In another couple of weeks I'll have to explain this exact same shit to another feminist cuck, because they've never heard of it. yada, yada, yada….............. It's never ending.
It's like the "white people go around" anti-white racist event at Berkeley. I posted about it when it happened and have to explain it countless times because SJWs have no fucking idea what it is.
I have nothing to gain from this… but I feel it is my duty to reveal that Lacy Green raped me too! It was HORRIBLE! Wahh!!! Boo Hoo! (anybody got Gloria Allred's number?)
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My brilliant new premise
Here is my revised premise:
Police are not qualified, nor do they have enough information to be doing anything more than taking people into custody.Once in custody, the accused may be lied to ONLY if it is documented that the accused was lied to, and that the accused responses may not be used against them UNLESS the information given is VERIFIABLE. In other words, statements made under duress should not be admissible, however they can be used to further the investigation of the case. Here is an example: interrogator lies to suspect and says "we know you stole the wallet and unless you confess we will put you in prison for 20 years" The suspect then confesses and reveals where the wallet is… however, since that confession was made under duress of a lie, then the following would apply:
1. If the wallet was found WHERE the suspect said it was, then that confession solved the crime, and the plea bargain is valid
2. If the wallet was NOT found where the suspect said it was, then that confession must be considered to be false, the plea bargain is not valid BUT the confession can NOT be used against the suspect!Everyone is entitled to a FAIR trial by jury. To be fair, no matter what, if the jury is intentionally told a lie, and that lie is not corrected by the prosecution, then at the very least, you have a mistrial, if not an acquittal. There is no excuse for presenting a jury an intentional lie. In OJ's trial, he got acquitted because the lead detective committed perjury. OJ's trial could have been ruled a mistrial, however in that case that went on for over a year, they decided that a do-over would not work because the testimony of the lead detective could not be used in the re-trial.
In the mysterious case I often refer to.. the jury was lied to not once.. not twice.. but constantly.. and not only by the prosecution, but the accused man's own defense attorney was a fraud who did more harm to the defendant than the prosecution did. -
RE: Something Trump is wrong about..
Your post doesn' make any sense.
Sounds like we have a closet SJW/feminist here.
Who are you talking about?
JUST BELIEVE, despite Lacy Green never being thrown in prison for raping 4 million people
What is this about?
Oddly, cteavin wants to wrongfully punish more people than feminists. Feminists only want to punish 2% to 8% (their figure) of falsely accused, but cteavin wants to wrongfully execute 10%.
You're taking that out of context. As of now, neither you nor Fred have answered the question I put forth. I'll ask it again:
Will you prevent 99 guilty people from going to prison to save one person wrongly accused or will you falsely imprison one person so that 99 guilty people go to jail?
It's a serious question. US law is founded on the former but I support the latter.
Here is a thorough link which covers this topic.. and here is a summary
10% Blackstone /British law is said to set the bar at 10 guilty go free to prevent an innocent from going to jail
1% Benjamin Franklin / US Law set the bar at 100 guilty go free to prevent 1 innocent from going to jail.
-25% Pol Pot and Bismark set the bar at 4 INNOCENTS go to jail to prevent 1 guilty from going free.
25% Dick Cheney set the bar at 4 non-citizen guilty go free to prevent 1 non-citizen innocent going to jail.I will stick with the Benjamin Franklin model.
This is similar to the theory of lower speed limits save lives. At what point do you drop the speed limit to prevent deaths?
BUT I'm glad I brought this topic up.. because I now realize that it is an issue that doesn't have a right or wrong answer. Therefore, I will avoid this premise in the future.
My mistake was offering that as a premise.
I am glad that this premise got tested because it has prevented me from making a mistake in the future.
I have come up with a much better premise which I will post in a new message very shortly. -
RE: More woe for crooked Hillary.. seems Hillary isn't the only one who wrote a book
The DNC Primary was rigged against Bernie. Lot's of people have been saying that for ages.
A lot of people are impressed by Bernie… but even Bernie's got his problems... which seem to be mainly the fault of his wife and her massive fraud.