Posts made by alibix

"someone on the internet says something"

"AGHHH  WHAAAST????/ FUCKING WHAAAAT???/ OH MY FUCKING GODD1!!!1 LIBTAARDS!!!
LIBTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@raphjd:

Look at that picture.   She presents as a girl, not a boy.

Let's recap, she is a girl, who claims to be trans boy, who identifies as a girl.

That is her mental gymnastics so she can keep being a girly girl and still seek attention.

Blaire White is a trans female.  She is not a trans female who identifies as being a boy.  Likewise, but the opposite, for Skylar.

Since you're butt hurt that I mentioned only 1 freak, are you demanding that I make a thread for the various attention whores who are playing at being trans?

How does that picture make it true that she identifies as female and not male?

Trump people seem to be already building their defence. There might be something happening soon…

Are getting off on being this angry about strawmen?

If you noticed, I am only slagging off this attention seeking "gender trender".   I have no issues with real trans people.    I truly respect people like Skylar and Blair White for making their transition and the issues they face public.

What was the point of this post then? Why was one trans person 'real' and the other presumably wasn't?

Because she was trans, she couldn't use the girls' bathroom.  She was give the keycard to the staff bathrooms, as was the real trans girl.  She refused and demanded that she had to use the boys' bathroom.  She was told NO, but she did it anyway.  This lead to the photo being taken and the rest is history.

Do you have a source for that? All I'm seeing is this:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/4412/girl-uses-boys-bathroom-bad-things-happen-next-amanda-prestigiacomo

How can you support this kind of shit, especially when it harms a real trans girl?!

Nobody supports dumb students - or at least if they don't know what you are claiming this kid caused.

This is, what, one in hundreds of thousands of young trans people around America? Is it supposed to change anything? What about all the the trans people that have been using their preferred toilet for years now before Republicans started trying to stop it?

@amicusets:

@alibix:

@raphjd:

Not everyone who flies/wears the confederate flag is a racist.    For many it's simply a symbol of southern pride.   For some it's a symbol of rebellion.

Only an SJW would reduce everything into an ism and/or a phobia.

It's by definition anti american

In no definition of the word can it be expressed to be "anti-American." This is LITERALLY the most ridiculous argument against the flag that I have ever heard. Please source some SCHOLASTIC information regarding such a claim.

The people who flew that flag fought against the America we have today.

What do you think? We still have the german elections to go. It looks like Merkel will be rel-elected. There is also the French parliamentary elections.

And the British election - which is the conservatives will surely win. However, Theresa May was a huge Remainer before the vote. She has been making secret promises important to businesses around the country. I'm pretty sure she will go for a soft Brexit and having a huge Conservative majority makes it so that she gets the Brexit she wants and that Britain basically turns into a one Party state for the a good long while.

@raphjd:

Not everyone who flies/wears the confederate flag is a racist.    For many it's simply a symbol of southern pride.   For some it's a symbol of rebellion.

Only an SJW would reduce everything into an ism and/or a phobia.

It's by definition anti american

Both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

@Drwas:

Sharia law is against gays and women, despite what SJWs tell you.

I'm still waiting for Higgs to come back and tell me all the muslim countries that are gay utopias.   He ran away from the thread after I asked him to name them.

That has NOTHING to do with the current topic.

He is quite feral.

It's both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

The confederate flag is also the definition of anti-american.

This is why Macron won.

@raphjd:

I think some people wallow in oppression.

I converted a rapper from doing songs about black are oppressed to doing songs about black empowerment.     He'd never had an actual conversation with a white person who owns a business.    He went from doing songs about whitey refusing to give jobs to blacks to doing songs about staying in school and bettering yourself.

I see this situation being kinda the same.

Rather than focusing on actual oppression, people are getting butt hurt of some historical thing.

Despite what the Nazis did to gays, I don't wallow in oppression every time I see a Nazi symbol.   I don't wallow in the fact that when the Allies freed the concentration camps, gays were left there and later sent to a proper prison, while everyone else was released.   Maybe I should view all the symbols of the allies as oppression too.

Were Nazi flags raised near Government buildings?

Le Pen wants to ban adoption and marriage of gay people. This is much closer to Muslims than Macron. How could a gay person vote for someone closer to backwards Islamic beliefs?

Deep in Macron Country
We must now confront an uncomfortable question. Why did so many French people vote for Emmanuel Macron? Was it a lack of economic anxiety, or a lack of racism?

As I step off the train in Roquefort, southern France, I sniff the air appreciatively. It's so good to be out of the Paris bubble, meeting some authentic French people to answer the biggest question in European politics: why did so many people vote for Emmanuel Macron? Was it a lack of economic anxiety, or a lack of racism?

Either way, their concerns deserve to be heard. Some might find them unpalatable, but history has taught us that repressing such views only makes them more virulent. It might not be pleasant to hear them, it might offend our sensibilities, but we have to share our towns and cities with pragmatic centrists, so we must strive to understand them. Too often, during this French presidential cycle, an out-of-touch media elite has failed to understand these people, connected to the political process, broadly trusting of the mainstream media, and what has driven them to vote for a liberal, globalising ex-banker who wants to deregulate the economy.

Arriving at the nearest patisserie, I ask the owner, Claude, if she knows where I might find some Macron voters to talk to. "They are probably at work right now," she says. "Or picking up their kids. Are you sure that it's not Le Pen voters you want to meet? That's what the journalists usually say."

ust down the street I run into Joséphine. "Are you angry?" I ask.

"Yes, I am fuming!"

"I suppose you are deeply resentful of immigrants and their effects on wages - or perhaps seized by an intense yet vague sense of national decline?"

She stares at me.

"No. My bicycle has been stolen."

I try a local bar. Three older men sit around a table outside, smoking and drinking that horrible French spirit which goes cloudy when you add water, like TCP does.

"Excuse me, gentlemen," I say. "I'm here from a British magazine to discover why this populist surge has swept France."

One of them, Jean-Luc, pauses for a long moment. "I would say that perhaps France has some experience of what happens when a country elects a right-wing authoritarian who likes to blame everything on people from a religious minority." He leans in. "My father was in the maquis."

On his left, Antoine takes up the tale. "The thing is, the political class don't listen to people like us. People call us extremists, but we just want someone who will make sure that the lights stay on and not do something stupid, like take us out of the European union. Beyond that -", he shrugs, "I am relatively happy. This is a great time to be alive, isn't it? I still have all my teeth. There is no war."

The final man, François, chips in. "I remember the "good old days". Merde! Did you know our service stations only gave up those toilets where it's two footplates and a hole about 15 years ago?" He shakes his head. "I would like a little more globalisation, frankly."

The waiter brings over more drinks. Tahar is in his 20s and a Muslim. He has a simple explanation for Macron's triumph. "These Le Pen voters are trapped in a exurban nativist bubble. They are out of touch with the needs and values of real French people, like me." He is right. There are deep forces at work here, which have caused the triumph of innumerable centrists around the western world over the past few decades. Only a blinkered fool would try to deny this uncomfortable truth. Perhaps, I begin to wonder with prickling unease, it is just as legitimate an electoral strategy to appeal to young people, ethnic minorities and social liberals as it is to go for the votes of nativist whites? I shake my head to clear it. No. Saying that would be like saying that there is no hierarchy of citizenhood, and that every voter is of equal value.

Finally, in the bookshop, I do find someone who is angry. "We are tired of our traditional culture being mocked and derided," says Pierre, angrily setting aside his Proust omnibus. "Does Marine Le Pen not understand that being French is all about being insouciant, not shouting endlessly about how terrible it is when women wear veils? The only article of clothing a Frenchman should be against is the sock with the sandal." He shudders. "We are not . . . Germans."

However, walking around town, I also notice a disturbing phenomenon. A lot of people simply don't want to talk to me about their political views. These are the Shy Macronists, living proof that our media climate is hostile to those with a pragmatic, centrist outlook. They know their opinions are unfashionable, and the casual insults thrown at them are exactly what drove so many to vote for the 39-year-old. "Do not use my name," says one young man, looking nervously down the street. "Here in France you cannot speak openly about your love of the European Union. Politicians are scared of tackling the subject, even though we know this is what many people in the country think. It is - how you say? - political correctness gone mad."

Outside, I run into a rare Le Pen voter, stepping out of his battered Renault. Why did his candidate lose, I ask him. "I blame the mainstream media. All the way through this campaign they have reported fairly, exposing Fillon's strange financial dealings, giving due weight to the charges against Le Pen and, finally, refusing to go stark raving insane over an extremely mundane dump of Macron's emails on the eve of polling day." He jabs his finger in my direction, nearly dislodging the bottle of Panaché I bought at the Monoprix. "And also I blame the other candidates! What kind of rightwing politicians are these, who throw their weight behind a centrist in the final round? They should have pandered to her more, in order to prop up their own bases. And I blame the system! Why do we not have something like the electoral college, where the votes of a thousand angry white people in a few towns have a wildly disproportionate effect on the result. It is abominable."

Walking back to the train, I reflect how strange it is that I should run into a series of broad French stereotypes who confirmed my pre-existing views. Still, I shrug, pulling out a Gauloise, putting on my beret and adjusting the string of onions around my neck, you just have to go where the story takes you.

http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2017/05/deep-macron-country

I don't see how if I was  a gay person living in France would vote any other way. For someone that doesn't like Muslims - Le Pen certainly is more like them than Macron!

You need to talk to people some time. This is unhealthy.

@raphjd:

Trump has said that he won't punish countries for leaving the EU.

That is the opposite stance of the Obama admin, which included Hillary.

Obama didn't say that Britain would be 'punished'. Neither did Hillary. Don't spread lies!

Damn, you've gone off of the deep end. You seem radical.