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    • raphjd
      raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by raphjd

      Twitter banned Matt Walsh over these 2 tweets, claiming they are "transphobic" hate speech.

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        geobear40 @raphjd last edited by

        @raphjd
        What is transphobic? Sounds like a Liberal made up word to call people who disagree with the concept of gender.

        More Liberal censorship, you must believe the way Liberals do or be cancelled.

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        • iaimtoplease
          iaimtoplease last edited by

          can't help but think of this photo when i see matt walsh content
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          • bi4smooth
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            The term homophobic includes those who believe that true homosexuality doesn't even exist.

            The same is true for the term transphobic.

            Look in the mirror... are you queer? Do you exist?

            Agreed, you're not trans - but does that mean that they do not exist?

            Mind you: I have no problem with the Jeopardy Champion being labeled a woman - because she says that's what she is.

            But I do agree that in sports and many other areas that are dependent on genetics differentiating male from female, that it is wrong to allow athletes whose bodies have male genetics to compete as females because the person believes they are more "personally" female, in spite of their genetic makeup... it's an unfair advantage, to be sure.

            Still, to claim that trans people are, in general, "faking it" is literally being transphobic...

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            • bi4smooth
              bi4smooth last edited by

              Getting away from the content, let me re-state my position about Twitter:

              • They are a private company - they can suspend all confirmed male accounts, or all accounts in Ireland, or all accounts with people with blond hair - if they want to!
              • They shouldn't be suspending accounts based on politics - even borderline hate-speech - unless it is promoting violence.

              Thus, unless Mr Walsh was promoting violence against trans people, his account should not have been touched. Indeed, he should have been allowed to have been lambasted by the troves of people who support trans-rights...

              Shutting down these voices doesn't silence them...

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                eobox91103 @iaimtoplease last edited by

                @iaimtoplease said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                can't help but think of this photo when i see matt walsh content

                I don't know the context of the photo (or even the overall discussion), but the picture reminds me of a Zoom meeting a couple of weeks ago when one of our younger associates stood up with his laptop camera on. It was a very pleasant view, but I wasn't able to hit "print screen" quickly enough. Damn....

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                • raphjd
                  raphjd Forum Administrator @eobox91103 last edited by raphjd

                  @eobox91103

                  The photo looks like Matt Walsh but isn't him.

                  The 2nd tweet is talking about Bruce Jenner vs Caitlyn Jenner.

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                    geobear40 @bi4smooth last edited by

                    @bi4smooth

                    Being trans and being homosexual are not the same thing. Trans persons are a minority so small that they have to become part of a larger group to get any respect.

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                      geobear40 @iaimtoplease last edited by

                      @iaimtoplease

                      Is that real or some conservatives fantasy?

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                      • bi4smooth
                        bi4smooth @geobear40 last edited by bi4smooth

                        @geobear40 said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                        @bi4smooth

                        Being trans and being homosexual are not the same thing. Trans persons are a minority so small that they have to become part of a larger group to get any respect.

                        You really think that the trans community encompasses all of homosexuality?

                        You silly fool (and I do not use the term loosely):

                        • L - Lesbian (as in homosexual female)
                        • G - Gay (as in homosexual male)
                        • B - Bisexual (male or female)
                        • T - Transexual (or Transgender - depending on who you ask)
                        • Q - Questioning

                        You, my dear queer, are a transphobe... sad, but you've proven it!

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                        • raphjd
                          raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth last edited by

                          @bi4smooth

                          In the modern sense, Q means Queer.

                          As for the rest of your post, I don't get your point other than to call someone else names because they disagree with you.

                          Prior to TikTok where everything is labeled as "trans", real trans people made up an extremely small percentage of the population.

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                            geobear40 @bi4smooth last edited by

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                            It started out as being refered to as Gay then women wants their own label and it became Gay & Lesbian after that all the smaller "gay adjacent" groups wanted to be represented and it became LGBT. and so on and so on until we get to where it is today. A bunch of letters people use to virtue signal each other.

                            None of that takes anything away from me being an out gay man for over 30 years.

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                            • bi4smooth
                              bi4smooth @geobear40 last edited by

                              @geobear40 said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                              @bi4smooth

                              It started out as being refered to as Gay then women wants their own label and it became Gay & Lesbian after that all the smaller "gay adjacent" groups wanted to be represented and it became LGBT. and so on and so on until we get to where it is today. A bunch of letters people use to virtue signal each other.

                              None of that takes anything away from me being an out gay man for over 30 years.

                              So, you agree that there are gay men, and I presume that you also agree that there are gay women (lesbians)... but you question the existence of trans?
                              Do you also question the existence of bisexuals?
                              What about Queer/Questioning or any other non-conforming "group"?

                              It seems to me that the only reason you believe that gay men actually exist is because you are one... for everyone else, if they don't fit into one of your "perfectly well organized world order" of labels, then they couldn't possibly exist!

                              That is folly and foolishness...

                              Trans people exist, whether you believe in them or not - and your insistence that they are "not real" is part of the definition of being transphobic!

                              For what it's worth, your attempt to re-label other people is also folly and foolishness! Why, you've looked "a little too long" at a naked woman or two - perhaps you're not really "gay", just a straight man who is too coward to approach a woman?

                              Balderdash! If you claim you're gay, I have no right to place a different label on your sexual orientation - and likewise, you have no right to refuse to accept or acknowledge the self-appointed sexual-orientation labels others choose for themselves!

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                                geobear40 @bi4smooth last edited by

                                @bi4smooth said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                                So, you agree that there are gay men, and I presume that you also agree that there are gay women (lesbians)... but you question the existence of trans?
                                Do you also question the existence of bisexuals?
                                What about Queer/Questioning or any other non-conforming "group"?
                                It seems to me that the only reason you believe that gay men actually exist is because you are one... for everyone else, if they don't fit into one of your "perfectly well organized world order" of labels, then they couldn't possibly exist!
                                That is folly and foolishness...
                                Trans people exist, whether you believe in them or not - and your insistence that they are "not real" is part of the definition of being transphobic!
                                For what it's worth, your attempt to re-label other people is also folly and foolishness! Why, you've looked "a little too long" at a naked woman or two - perhaps you're not really "gay", just a straight man who is too coward to approach a woman?
                                Balderdash! If you claim you're gay, I have no right to place a different label on your sexual orientation - and likewise, you have no right to refuse to accept or acknowledge the self-appointed sexual-orientation labels others choose for themselves!

                                Again you miss the point. Are you sure English is your first language. I admit to having spelling issues but you have comprehension issues that need to be addressed.

                                I admit that those very small self identified groups exist. They had such a small political presence they needed to attach their identity to the Gay movement. The Gay movement was happy to have them. The larger the group the more political power.

                                In regard to your inquire of my sexual orientation. It is a free country attempt to disparage me all you want. I have the right to keep my sexual history to myself.

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                                • bi4smooth
                                  bi4smooth @geobear40 last edited by bi4smooth

                                  @geobear40 said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                                  @bi4smooth said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                                  So, you agree that there are gay men, and I presume that you also agree that there are gay women (lesbians)... but you question the existence of trans?
                                  Do you also question the existence of bisexuals?
                                  What about Queer/Questioning or any other non-conforming "group"?
                                  It seems to me that the only reason you believe that gay men actually exist is because you are one... for everyone else, if they don't fit into one of your "perfectly well organized world order" of labels, then they couldn't possibly exist!
                                  That is folly and foolishness...
                                  Trans people exist, whether you believe in them or not - and your insistence that they are "not real" is part of the definition of being transphobic!
                                  For what it's worth, your attempt to re-label other people is also folly and foolishness! Why, you've looked "a little too long" at a naked woman or two - perhaps you're not really "gay", just a straight man who is too coward to approach a woman?
                                  Balderdash! If you claim you're gay, I have no right to place a different label on your sexual orientation - and likewise, you have no right to refuse to accept or acknowledge the self-appointed sexual-orientation labels others choose for themselves!

                                  Again you miss the point. Are you sure English is your first language. I admit to having spelling issues but you have comprehension issues that need to be addressed.

                                  I admit that those very small self identified groups exist. They had such a small political presence they needed to attach their identity to the Gay movement. The Gay movement was happy to have them. The larger the group the more political power.

                                  In regard to your inquire of my sexual orientation. It is a free country attempt to disparage me all you want. I have the right to keep my sexual history to myself.

                                  I think it is you who are having issues with conceptualizing what's being said: I could truly not care less about a topic than I do about your personal situation - sexually or otherwise. While I don't wish you any ill-will, it truly does not enter my thought processes (without your injecting it there) at all... and I made it clear in my post above, that it would not be right of me to attempt to label you or your sexuality.

                                  My point - clear, I suspect, to others if not to you - was that YOU similarly have no right to assign (or attack) those labels when self-assigned by others.

                                  Trans people are a sexual-orientation minority legitimately, and not just a "fringe group" that's "hanging on for the ride"... their numbers, when not forced to be closeted, are - I suspect - somewhat higher than you would believe.

                                  That said, getting back to the points:

                                  • Matt Walsh (and @geobear40) should be allowed to be trans-phobic (the argument as to whether you fit that label notwithstanding). I appreciate their willingness to express their views, as it provides ME information - for example, I will no longer be tempted to read anything else from Matt Walsh regarding human or minority rights, given that he has already proven and professed his complete ignorance on the issue.
                                  • Twitter should not be "so quick to judge," IMHO. Specifically, his account should not have been suspended for these tweets... stupidity is annoying, and sometimes offensive - but it is not illegal!
                                  • Twitter is within their rights to suspend any account they want to, for any reason... they are not a public accommodation, they are a private company providing a very specific service... albeit to a wide audience, but nevertheless, they do not meet the criteria for being a public accommodation, and thus legal protections for potential clients do not really exist.
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                                  • raphjd
                                    raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth last edited by

                                    @bi4smooth

                                    Transexual is not a sexual orientation as it is a state of mind about their body, not who they want to fuck.

                                    Caitlyn Jenner is a lesbian, Blair White and Rose of Dawn are heterosexuals. Skylar is bi.

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                                    • bi4smooth
                                      bi4smooth @raphjd last edited by

                                      @raphjd said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                                      @bi4smooth

                                      Transexual is not a sexual orientation as it is a state of mind about their body, not who they want to fuck.

                                      Caitlyn Jenner is a lesbian, Blair White and Rose of Dawn are heterosexuals. Skylar is bi.

                                      My apologies for not including @raphjd in the list of transphobic people mentioned in this thread....

                                      Sexual Orientation applies just as much to what gender you ARE, as to what gender you ARE ATTRACTED TO...

                                      If you believed that homosexuality was just a "state of mind", you'd be a homophobe...

                                      If the shoe fits, wear it!

                                      Unless you are embarrassed by your position, you should OWN the label transphobe!

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                                      • raphjd
                                        raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth last edited by

                                        @bi4smooth

                                        LOL, you really like to make up definitions of words to suit your agenda. That shows you are a liberal.

                                        Body dysmorphia is not a sexual orientation, you dumb ass.

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                                          Bjorn0 @bi4smooth last edited by

                                          @bi4smooth said in Twitter suspends Daily Wire's Matt Walsh after he posted gender critical 'transphobic' tweets:

                                          But I do agree that in sports and many other areas that are dependent on genetics differentiating male from female,

                                          I have a complex and nuanced position, and am generally lean conservative.

                                          While it is true that having higher levels of male hormones during development can lead to increased heart size, bone and muscle density, the same can be also said about environmental conditions, say east Africans in long distance running. Sports isn't objectively fair, so I'm open to that discussion which must include cis women, as well as trans, speaking openly and freely.

                                          I think it's important we be allowed a rational debate, which some on the woke left refuse to allow, while some on the right are using trans rights as a new front after losing the culture war on gay and lesbian rights to attack trans people on several fronts, this is unhealthy for society at large.

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                                          • raphjd
                                            raphjd Forum Administrator @Bjorn0 last edited by

                                            @bjorn0

                                            The irony is that feminists tried and won the right to take over male spaces, but are now butthurt that trans women are taking over female spaces.

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