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i see upload about site like 19nitten and eastboys upload
but these can have illegal content. i do not wish to stay on site if there is illegal contentis more strict upload check in place?
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@corbyn4life This is interesting to all of us. I'm not familiar with 19nitten, but have seen some Eastboys content. What information do you have to show that the site has illegal content? Be careful with allegations without some sort of confirmation. Underage exploitation is a problem, is illegal, and I don't believe any of us care to see the site shut down due to illustrated or evident underage postings. Can you share more information?
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@boltvolts long time I saw listed on banned site on one other torrent website but cannot remember which site it was. Maybe I should re phrase question to ask if it is.
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@corbyn4life Thank you, and thank you for pointing out the potential problem. I always flag questionable photos or videos. While there is no "proof" at that point, I think we all generally know underage when we see it. Some instances are very blatant.
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@boltvolts yes if they are not illegal then its fine
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When you go to the upload page, there is a link to the Upload Rules, including this page that identifies BANNED content (banned studios, etc).
https://www.gaytorrent.ru/notallowed.phpAdditionally, anyone can report a torrent for potential age issues.
I'm pretty sure that the MODS take this stuff seriously - and there are warnings about penalties for uploading banned content - but, "I'm not going to use this site if there is illegal content"??? Let me ask you this: since nearly ALL of the content here is copyright by someone, nearly ALL of it is posted here illegally (at least in most jurisdictions).
IMHO (and I'm speaking for myself), the ban on age-restricted content is because it is OFFENSIVE to the owners/staff, not just because it is illegal.
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@bi4smooth I agree with most of what you point out.
The exception is that not only may it be offensive to the owners of the site, but to the majority of its users. We live in a majority rule society (supposedly). While all have their attractions and individual preferences which should be respected, it is precisely there that is the point...
Rights of those to view underage, for example, may infringe upon those who are under the legal age of consent. At what point is a child able to fairly discern the potnetial for harm or exploitation. Chldren can't order merchandise on the internet for the same reason.
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@boltvolts said in illegal file:
@bi4smooth I agree with most of what you point out.
The exception is that not only may it be offensive to the owners of the site, but to the majority of its users. We live in a majority rule society (supposedly). While all have their attractions and individual preferences which should be respected, it is precisely there that is the point...
Rights of those to view underage, for example, may infringe upon those who are under the legal age of consent. At what point is a child able to fairly discern the potnetial for harm or exploitation. Chldren can't order merchandise on the internet for the same reason.
Well, the point about it being offensive to the owners of the site is that they make the rules here! As I note above: virtually EVERY file shared on this site is already a violation of some law!
As for "majority rule" - that is a common misconception:
- This is the Internet, not the US (or any Western Democracy)
- We (queer folk) are already a minority... if "majority ruled" this content would be illegal! Oh wait! It IS in several parts of the world!
- The owner(s) of this site are under no requirement to do what "the majority" wants - otherwise, there would be no rationator, and DMCA takedown requests would be ignored!
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there is huge difference of copyright and underage
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@bi4smooth As stated before I agree by and large with your approach. You fail to acknowledge my point. Majority is not an issue for this site, rather for morality itself. The site owners can only maintain and serve the public it seeks to serve by arriving at a level of balance that serves the majority of its users. Nothing to do with legalities. I maintain the majority of users here would not support underage posts. The age of consent in Italy is 14, but only if the other party is within two years of their age. These legalities vary by venue, therefore the legality issue is not what is at issue in this instance.
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@corbyn4life I agree. By making every detail of the regulation the same as any other, then rape, murder, torture, snuff films, pedofilia, and other distasteful media are on the same plane with DCPM regulations designed to protect incomes of the producers. I understand those regulations. As the world of tech has changed significantly, producers are slowly realizing the marketing potential of allowing the duplication of its media. Somewhere there's a balance.
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@corbyn4life said in illegal file:
there is huge difference of copyright and underage
maybe word illegal is no used correctly in my postI agree that, to me personally, there is certainly a big difference.
But, to the site, there is none: both are not allowed, and are removed upon discovery.
There is one difference, however:
- Posting something that is DMCA removed will not result in adverse actions taken against uploaders here
- Posting something that is in the not allowed link above very well may get you booted off this system/site.
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@boltvolts said in illegal file:
@bi4smooth As stated before I agree by and large with your approach. You fail to acknowledge my point. Majority is not an issue for this site, rather for morality itself. The site owners can only maintain and serve the public it seeks to serve by arriving at a level of balance that serves the majority of its users. Nothing to do with legalities. I maintain the majority of users here would not support underage posts. The age of consent in Italy is 14, but only if the other party is within two years of their age. These legalities vary by venue, therefore the legality issue is not what is at issue in this instance.
This is part of the issue with the Internet... your 14 y/o Italian porn (with 2 x 14 y/o stars) might be legal there (?? I don't know, but you seem to imply that it is above ??)...
But that is NOT legal in the US, where the age to appear in porn is 18+ (across the country - not state-by-state).I do not envy the staff who have to decide what is "legal age" and what isn't - ESPECIALLY with the onslaught of non-professional postings: OnlyFans, Twitter, and other large providers of short clips have no record-keeping requirements like professional studios do...
I know of at-least-one 12 y/o girl who was "publishing" sex videos with her 13 y/o boyfriend on a site where both used ludicrously fake IDs to get an account. They were "discovered" by the girl's older brother, who was apparently a collector of porn videos - at 15!
And pardon my hubris, but anyone who says that they can spot an underage performer is demonstrably a fool, and a moron to boot: Look at the earliest videos of Austin Young! He could have passed for a 13 y/o for christ's sake! But he had ID that proved he was 18... and look, sometime, at Asian Twink porn! Some of those guys look downright pre-pubescent, but have proven their identities to be 18+!
So what do you do with content that's posted from Twitter? There is no age requirement (at least not 18+), or record-keeping requirement there!
This is largely the same issue that all-but-took-down the *Tube sites (PornTube, XTube, PornHub, etc.) - some of their submissions were coming DIRECTLY from underage performers (no need for pedophiles to get involved, the kids were posting their own selves - their own content, no adults needed!)
It's a "can of worms" - and one I'm glad I don't have to dig into: as the father of 9 kids, I have nightmares of seeing one of my kids in a porn download! (Not that I would object if one of my adult kids wanted to go into porn - but I would NOT want to watch it!)
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If it makes you more comfortable, you can always check to see if a studio's website has a statement of compliance with US Title 18, Section 2257 (which requires producers of erotic material to keep records proving that all models were eighteen years or older when photographed or filmed). Most websites have this, alongside an email or mailing address of the custodian of records who can be contacted if need be. The links to these can usually be found near the links to other legal information like their privacy policy.
For the record, 19nitten does have such a compliance statement, as does East Boys, so I assume they're legal in the sense that they're not child pornography.
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@adonismix said in illegal file:
If it makes you more comfortable, you can always check to see if a studio's website has a statement of compliance with US Title 18, Section 2257 (which requires producers of erotic material to keep records proving that all models were eighteen years or older when photographed or filmed). Most websites have this, alongside an email or mailing address of the custodian of records who can be contacted if need be. The links to these can usually be found near the links to other legal information like their privacy policy.
For the record, 19nitten does have such a compliance statement, as does East Boys, so I assume they're legal in the sense that they're not child pornography.
Absolutely... and that works for "professional" content... but have you browsed the torrents lately? There is a TON of "amateur" content - it's the new fad!
A girl in a local nearby town had a huge "coming out" party for her new OnlyFans account - a big house party, where at midnight she opened her OnlyFans account - because it was her 18th birthday! (She thinks she'll be one of the "stars" who makes 6-figures from their online content!)
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Oh yeah, it's absolutely not foolproof. It doesn't work if the site is defunct, and once you get into amateur material (OF, Twitter, etc.) it's often completely useless. I just wanted to give OP a bit of reassurance on the two studios mentioned and a way to confirm these things in the future if it worries him, even if it won't work for every torrent.
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All good points. It goes to say that there is no absolute except that there are no absolutes.
That said, when I was Admin on another site, I found content that was unabashedly underage, and any moron could see that. In fact, the content producer was in jail at the time I blocked all content from that studio for child pornography.
And no, Italy does not allow underage (18) pornography. The fact is that the age of consent applies universally to all sexual interaction, therefore not only is the content illegal, but more importantly the consent of the individual. Now... for your can of worms to continue, were an individual to consensually film a sex act between a 14 and 15-year-old in Italy, and post it, there would be a violation of Terms and Conditions of virtually every hosting site, but not necessarily of the law, allowing the content to be removed.
The bottom line is that most of us do not need rules, regulations, law or terms and conditions to discern what is and is not appropriate. Unfortunately, for the other vast minority this is not the case, and we all have to abide by rules for the masses.
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As the discussion above shows, this is a complex topic. I'll add a few of my own thoughts here.
As for underage material, as @bi4smooth points out, you can't simply look at a "model" and determine their age. While a pre-pubescent 10 year old would not be mistaken for an adult, someone who's 15 can look 20, and vice versa. It would be nice to be able to rely on a producer's certification of age-compliance, but this is not infallible. Some get it wrong, and some purposely misrepresent the facts.
Then, there's the issue of amateur material--anybody with a smartphone can make and post a video. There's no way to determine the age of the performers, and thus some sites will not host (or share) material that isn't from a commercial producer. There is amateur material on GR.ru, and it's possible that there are some underage performers. The moderators can't look at everything that's uploaded.
Part of amateur material is voyeur content--filmed in a locker room, shower, or over the divider of a toilet stall without the consent of the subject. These subjects could pursue both the person taking the photos and anyone possessing that material for an invasion of privacy--the usual norm being that photos or videos taken where a person has a "legitimate expectation of privacy" constitute such invasion. This gets further complicated given that there's no way to verify the age of a person being recorded in such circumstances. I have seen some toilet stall videos where I am less than convinced that the subject was 18 or over.
And finally, we need to distinguish age of consent from age of majority: In Canada, and most of the United States, it is legal to engage in sexual activity with someone 16 or 17 years old--but possessing a photo of that person's genitalia would be a crime.
One conclusion from all this is that each of us needs to use caution about what material we download and/or keep on our computer. Ultimately, it doesn't matter that you believe it's "legal" or can make an argument for that being the case, but rather it's what the legal system would think if you come under scrutiny. There have been cases where a person's computer or download records were seized for one reason or another, and when an investigator had reason to believe that there was banned material present, criminal charges were made. These might be later dismissed or acquitted, but only after considerable inconvenience and/or embarrassment. I don't say this to frighten people, but only to recommend that all of us be careful in what we do. Unless one is really into child (i.e., pre-pubescent) material, there's an abundance of clearly legal content available on this site that will be more than satisfying.
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@eobox91103 *Make that GT.ru (this domain) in my missive above. For some reason I can't edit the post.
