Voter Suppression - a new twist
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@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
@bi4smooth You're dumb. 95% of Covid hospitalizations are vaccinated. 5% are not. Let's go back to kindergarten math, k?
Your source is badly misinformed.... and you need to apply even a modicum of critical thinking when you post crap like that. Your numbers don't pass the smell test - not even close!
What are some real numbers?
So, on Aug 2 (2021), the US CDC reported that there are a little over 60,000 people in the US who are actively (on that date) in Hospital, diagnosed with COVID-19. (in 49 states and 5 territories... 1 state (unlisted by the CDC) is refusing to provided data - Probably Florida: our Governor seems to think this is all a joke).
Of those, 50,000 (yes, Virgina, this is a SPIKE in new cases! That's 80% of the people in Hospital RIGHT NOW) are new patients (admitted THIS WEEK).
- Don't forget, every week: some go home: family or funeral, some go home...
About 16,000 of those US COVID-19 patients currently in Hospital are in an ICU unit, with another 1,000-2,000 in hospitals that WOULD put them into an ICU unit, but there are none available. (That is between 1 and 2 thousand "loved ones" who CANNOT get the care they need because there is no room)...
but all of that doesn't address your utterly ridiculous contention that 95% were vaccinated...
The CDC doesn't have (or at least doesn't provide a current tally of patients who are considered "breakthrough" - had the vaccine and still got sick enough to need hospitalization... but that's because those numbers are insignificantly low... what they DO have (and publicize) is a running tally - of ALL vaccinated people who have been hospitalized with COVID-19... and on Aug 2 (2021), that number was 7525. TOTAL - from when vaccines were introduced in January/February, 2021 to Aug 2, 2021.
Oh, and of those "breakthrough" cases, 5557 (74% if you like statistics) were age 65 or older!
This does 2 things:
- 1 shows your "numbers" to be wildly off-base... (If 95% of hospitalizations were from people who WERE vaccinated, don't you think SOMEONE - in a MEDICAL field, not some political hack/talking head - would be trying to convince the Government to shutdown the vaccination programs? If not in the US, then in any of the OTHER 192 countries in the UN? (Or is this a giant, world-wide conspiracy... probably being run by the lizard-people?)
- 2 These numbers show why the CDC and FDA are so strongly considering authorizing older, and immuno-compromised people to get a BOOSTER shot of the vaccine. (UPDATE: They authorized boosters for immuno-compromised people TODAY!)
This may come as a shock to you, but people who choose careers in medicine (whether as physicians, nurses, PAs, or other front-line people - or as researchers) rarely, if ever, make that choice because they want to harm people, or even control people. As someone with 3 members of the "medical community" in my family, I can attest that these people want (in general) to help other people - that is their calling. (Yes, there are some who took that career path for monetary reasons... you can't paint a family of professions with one broad stroke and not expect to miss some people! But the VAST majority of the people I know in medicine are in that profession - chose that profession - in order to help people... not make them sick, not to kill them, not for politics (there are, statistically, very few DOCTORS in politics!)
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"Probably Florida: our Governor seems to think this is all a joke"
Do you mean like Biden? On his very first afternoon in office, he violated his own mask mandate on federal land.
Do you mean like Gov Whitmer?
Do you mean like your High Priestess Pelosi?
Do you mean like Chuckles Schumer?
Do you mean like Mayor Beetlejuice?
Do you mean like DC's mayor?
Do you mean like Gov Newsome?
Do you mean like the Texas Dems?
Do you mean like those that met with the Texas Dems?
Do you mean like the BBC?
Do you mean like CNN?
Do you mean like MSNBC?
Do you mean like anyone claiming that BLM and Antifa rioting and looting didn't spread C-19, but peaceful protests did?
Do you mean like Extinction Rebellion various protests of stoned hippy dancing and titty milk spraying without masks screeching that the world is going to cease to exist if they don't get their way?
As always, you always fail to mention your side when you get butthurt about C-19.
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@bi4smooth Nah. You're just stupid. I don't think that nurses are in on a conspiracy. I think you're dumb. The numbers are in, and it IS 95% in the highest vaccinated places, Israel, Norway, Iceland, Maine, Singapore, Australia.... the hospitals are filled with people who have been VACCINATED. You're stupid. There really isn't much to say because it doesn't matter. The ones in the hospital are not as Fauci claims without evidence, the unvaxxed. You just don't know what you're talking about.
Plus, that number (95%) is even in question, because Covid is just the Flu. The PCR test has been UN-authorized. That's the test they use to determine if you have Covid. That means the test itself is no longer authorized, and your numbers are based on a false test. Meaning, all your numbers are bullshit. So you can pick and choose which federal agency you want. The CDC versus the FDA. It doesn't matter. We all know that you're full of shit. Just let it go. The creator of the PCR said it's not a diagnostic and it can't determine if you're infected. It can determine if a steel wall has a little Vitamin C. That doesn't mean anything. God damn you're dumb. Just shut the hell up already.
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@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
@bi4smooth Nah. You're just stupid. I don't think that nurses are in on a conspiracy. I think you're dumb. The numbers are in, and it IS 95% in the highest vaccinated places, Israel, Norway, Iceland, Maine, Singapore, Australia.... the hospitals are filled with people who have been VACCINATED. You're stupid. There really isn't much to say because it doesn't matter. The ones in the hospital are not as Fauci claims without evidence, the unvaxxed. You just don't know what you're talking about.
Plus, that number (95%) is even in question, because Covid is just the Flu. The PCR test has been UN-authorized. That's the test they use to determine if you have Covid. That means the test itself is no longer authorized, and your numbers are based on a false test. Meaning, all your numbers are bullshit. So you can pick and choose which federal agency you want. The CDC versus the FDA. It doesn't matter. We all know that you're full of shit. Just let it go. The creator of the PCR said it's not a diagnostic and it can't determine if you're infected. It can determine if a steel wall has a little Vitamin C. That doesn't mean anything. God damn you're dumb. Just shut the hell up already.
I'm not the illiterate one...
- 95% of the people in hospital with COVID or COVID-like symptoms are UN (non) (did not take the shot) vaccinated.
- There are DOZENS of kinds of tests for COVID-19. (Look out on Tic-Tok for a way kids are fooling one of the quick-tests by dipping the specimen stick into a coke! - Mind you it doesn't mean coke products have COVID-19, all it does is "break the test" - and rinsing the stick restores the test results, if there were any)
Funny about the difference between you and actual scientists:
- Actual scientists go out of their way to prove they are wrong - about everything! It's the scientific method!
- You go out of your way to prove you're right - about every insignificant detail - even when you've clearly made a mistake, you insist you are right - mostly in a childlike manner: repeating yourself, saying it louder or multiple times, and lastly calling the other person names...
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Maybe you should read up on Climate-gate or Fauci's role in the AZT scandal before you worship scientists.
Scientists aren't saints. Many of them are dirty as hell.
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@raphjd said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
Maybe you should read up on Climate-gate or Fauci's role in the AZT scandal before you worship scientists.
Scientists aren't saints. Many of them are dirty as hell.
Scientists are people too... none of us are perfect.
Look, I haven't looked up Fauci's role in AZT - because I already know the NIH's and FDA's role in the drug. From my memory:
- they attempted to run double-blind tests, but the AIDS patients didn't care - they would find each other and either "pool pills" or determine (because it wasn't that hard) which one had the real drugs, and those who didn't bought the real AZT on the black-market)
- they (the FDA) already knew how dangerous the drug was because it was a failed cancer treatment... and the side effects were not "within the scope" of the AIDS disease's side effects, so it was easy for the medical professionals to tell who was on AZT and who was not.
- people (and doctors) were LITERALLY "grasping at straws" for ANYTHING that night help - and AIDS sufferers routinely offered themselves up as Guinea-Pigs - knowing they were going to die, but hoping (praying) that they might help others.
Mind you, the Gay Community was a fuck-load more closely-knit community then vs the way things are now. I personally knew a sizeable percentage of ALL out queers in the Cape Canaveral area... and they knew me. And we knew who was sick and who wasn't (we didn't even have the term HIV in the mid-80s when I started work there!)
Also: this was the 1980's and 1990's - medicine was still largely "witch-doctory" -- that is, "experiments" were largely "let's try this!" - throw something (EVERYTHING) at it, and see what works - even a little bit! AZT was hardly the first, nor the last failed "other" drug tried against AIDS. Still, they WERE using the "scientific method" (where they could - see above where AIDS patients themselves were destroying/invalidating research!) - try something, prove it's wrong, identify why/where/how it's wrong (to learn from your failure), and try something else... lather, rinse, repeat. (Guess, Test, evaluate, repeat)
Modern medicine isn't perfect, but it's LIGHTYEARS ahead of that! We developed the mRNA vaccines based on DNA sequencing of the virus itself! Technology that wasn't even DREAMED of in 1990! Even so, there was quite a bit of trepidation at giving those early nRNA based COVID-19 shots to humans! It's TRUE that it was tested in ways that short-circuited several safeguards... but, as with the AIDS crisis, when people are dying in large numbers, you "do what you have to do".
Ironic that you want to throw Fauci under-the-bus for AZT, but you have no ill-regard for Trump's touting of crazy COVID-19 theories:
- “Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous – whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful – light,” -- said at a news conference, not while "brainstorming" with scientists...
- “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?” - hundreds of US citizens died from injecting or ingesting cleaning fluids as a result of that flippant remark...
- And let's not forget hydroxychloroquine - an anti-malarial drug, with known serious side-effects... in opposition to the "modern medicine" approach of extracting the viral DNA and perfecting a treatment targeting that DNA, this was more of the old-school "throw anything at it and see what works, even if just a little"... only, in all of the CONTROLLED studies, it rarely worked.(Though it DID work in some cases, which helped them find better TREATMENTS (though, still no CURES) for the disease.) Still, Trump (really, more his supporters - he dropped the idea mostly, it was his supporters who wouldn't/couldn't let it die!) continued to push it - almost like religious "trust me" argument - long past the definitive studies that showed the cost-benefit was sharply skewed towards the COST side...
Mind you: hydroxychloroquine was NOT the unmitigated failure that light (much less, cancer-causing UV light) or IV cleaning supplies were! Its use DID help a few people, and more importantly DID lead to better treatments for CIVID-19 overall... like any good TEST SUBJECT, it wasn't THE ANSWER - but it helped us get CLOSER TO IT!
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Fauci said that GOF research was worth a global pandemic or 2 and here we are after he funded Bill Gate's Eco-Health doing GOFR in Wuhan, since it was banned in the US.
You love to ignore this.
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@raphjd said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
Fauci said that GOF research was worth a global pandemic or 2 and here we are after he funded Bill Gate's Eco-Health doing GOFR in Wuhan, since it was banned in the US.
You love to ignore this.
I give up... you win!
Let's hunt down all the Scientists and behead them! Guillotines should server the purpose well!
Off with their heads!
Or not... or, we can let scientists get back to being scientists... I certainly agree that we were all better off when Fauci wasn't giving press conferences and wasn't being asked to make public policy (which IS NOT HIS JOB - no matter how many or often reporters ask him!)
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AH, we excuse Fauci's antics over the last few decades. You are still ignoring and/or excusing what, as a scientist, Fauci has done.
I bet you wish Fauci would plop out a turd or 2 while you are sucking his ass.
