Voter Suppression - a new twist
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Do the math:
- 70% of self-reporting Democrats in the US are vaccinated against COVID-19. In some parts of the country, that number gets close to 90%...
- 15% of self-reporting Republicans in the US are vaccinated against COVID-19. In some parts of the country, that number gets closer to 5%...
- 95%+ of hospitalizations (and deaths) of COVID-19 infections are un-vaccinated folks
480 people died yesterday in the US from COVID-19. And the numbers are RISING (not falling anymore)...
Just using the statistics (not high-level math, just spit-balling it) - at least 400 of those 480 souls were Republicans.
By continuing to fight against every tool we have against COVID-19 (vaccines and masks), our Republican leaders are literally killing our own electorate!
Here in Florida, if cases STOPPED increasing, and just held steady (an improbable dream), we'll lose at least 70,000 Republican voters by the November 2022 elections.
This is a red-purple state - statewide elections are sometimes decided by fewer than 10,000 votes. We can't afford to lose 70,000 "red" voters and expect to still win!
This isn't looking good for DeSantis' re-election (Governor), nor Rubio's (Senator). WFT people! Wake up and smell the coffee!
We need to accept that COVID-19 isn't (and never was) a political issue. It wasn't created to cost Trump his presidency (though, it most certainly did have that effect!), and it's not a Government attempt to control your lives. It actually is a societal and Governmental attempt to save your ass!
We aren't hurting Democrats or Independents... we're hurting (no, killing) ourselves!
It may be crude and not politically correct, but if you're stupid enough to think these statistics are being made up by the liberal media, then perhaps the "Darwin Effect" is an appropriate measure for you!
- The "Darwin Effect" is a term used when someone who winds up killing themselves having done something so incredibly stupid that it is considered a genetic benefit to the human race to have had their genetic material removed from genealogical history.
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Wait, you are blaming conservatives, but ignoring that your side loves to go maskless despite the rules they put in for everyone else.
Do you remember what your side said while Trump was still in office, but switched the second Biden was sworn in?
Do you remember how your beloved Honest Joe signed the Exec Order requiring masks on ALL federal properties, only to be photoed at the Lincoln Memorial with his family, and none of them were wearing masks?
The sister of Scotland's First Minister tweeted a picture of her maskless on the train, while there is an absolute mask mandate on public transport. Police Scotland said it was not something they are gonna investigate.
Scotland's First Minister and several other people in power (not the opposition parties) have flouted the mask mandate. This included some that had tested positive for C-19.
The UK and other countries, allow celebs and athletes to skip the quarantine mandates.
John Kerry was photoed on a flight without a mask.
Texas Dems tweeted countless photos of themselves on those 2 private planes without masks, spreading C-19 as they went.
You claim to be a libertarian, while you demand that everyone walk in lockstep.
I posted a video of the BBC office and none of them were wearing masks, despite the strict mask mandate and their screeching about the doom and gloom if everyone didn't mask up. The video's purpose was for the BBC's coverup of pedophilia throughout the UK, but the video also showed that they clearly didn't believe their own shit.
Before you go on about conservatives, you need to clean up your own party.
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@raphjd said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
Wait, you are blaming conservatives, but ignoring that your side loves to go maskless despite the rules they put in for everyone else.
Do you remember what your side said while Trump was still in office, but switched the second Biden was sworn in?
Do you remember how your beloved Honest Joe signed the Exec Order requiring masks on ALL federal properties, only to be photoed at the Lincoln Memorial with his family, and none of them were wearing masks?
The sister of Scotland's First Minister tweeted a picture of her maskless on the train, while there is an absolute mask mandate on public transport. Police Scotland said it was not something they are gonna investigate.
Scotland's First Minister and several other people in power (not the opposition parties) have flouted the mask mandate. This included some that had tested positive for C-19.
The UK and other countries, allow celebs and athletes to skip the quarantine mandates.
John Kerry was photoed on a flight without a mask.
Texas Dems tweeted countless photos of themselves on those 2 private planes without masks, spreading C-19 as they went.
You claim to be a libertarian, while you demand that everyone walk in lockstep.
I posted a video of the BBC office and none of them were wearing masks, despite the strict mask mandate and their screeching about the doom and gloom if everyone didn't mask up. The video's purpose was for the BBC's coverup of pedophilia throughout the UK, but the video also showed that they clearly didn't believe their own shit.
Before you go on about conservatives, you need to clean up your own party.
You keep presuming that I'm a liberal Democrat in disguise - simply because I don't follow Trumpism. If I were to do the same, I'd constantly be calling you a "Fascist, Nazi Trumpite"!
This is not the straw-man you are looking for! (hand waving slowly in front of your face)
Look, my posting wasn't about hypocritical politicians saying one thing and then doing another - those are BOUNTIFUL on both sides!
My post is about LARGE GROUPS of people deciding to listen to Politicians (vs. Physicians) with regards to MEDICAL advise... and now they're DYING as a result!
It's about the LARGE NUMBERS of my fellow Republicans burying their heads in the sand about this virus, and the Democrats (seldom the smartest in the room!) doing what's needed to stop the spread of this (very real!) virus!
And, it's about the MATH: far FAR more Republicans are dying from this disease now (esp here in Florida) than Democrats - and it's our own fault!
Yes, the medical science has changed on COVID over time - science isn't about getting it right the first time, REAL science is about guessing (it's called a hypothesis - remember middle school science class?), and then testing that guess against the facts. And when your GUESS is proven wrong, you refine your guess with another one... and repeat the process... until your guess is right!
When you enter into the process EARLY in the data gathering stage (like in early 2020 - when Trump was still President), there are more erroneous guesses... but the more data is gathered, the better the guesses become. In scientific terms, this is called "learning."
Look, you love it when I point out things Trump did right: and his early response to COVID-19 was completely correct, even if all the contact tracing and belief that the virus was spread by surface contact vs aerosol was actually wrong. In those early days, he "went with the science" and likely saved a LOT of lives with the early "shutdowns" - again, even if in hindsight it was over-broad and hurt the economy in ways that didn't HAVE to be. It was the best known course of action at the time. ... and it saved lives!
The early reaction of Trump to devote millions of Federal dollars to fast-tracking vaccine research also paid off! Unfortunately for Trump, it paid off a few months too late... had the vaccine been available in large quantities in July, 2020 the outcome of the election might have been very different! But that's not what happened.
The problem with Trump later in the year was that he lost confidence in his scientists. So he started looking around for new scientists... some that would tell him something other than "hundreds of thousands of people will die, you will be blamed (even though it isn't your fault), and you will likely lose re-election as a result"... While that was the truth he didn't want to hear it, and there were plenty of yes-men who would tell him the Sun was made of ice-cream if that's what he wanted to hear!
Because it's germane to the conversation about Trump's COVID response, let me say that Trump wanted to fill his administration with "the impossible dream" - the best of the best in every field (doable) who would do his bidding without question (doable). He expected to find people that could be both... and that turned out to be exceptionally rare! Even Pence and Barr couldn't meet Trumps standards of total and unquestioning loyalty like he expected!
But to get back to the point....
This vaccine and COVID-19 denial bullshit is killing US! - Not the other guys - just US!!!
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Let's not forget that the science originally came from China and the WHO. They lied.
Fauci has constantly lied about GOF research.
Fauci lied about wearing masks. Whatever his reason, it was a lie.
Fauci said that GOF research was worth a global pandemic or 2.
The CDC has violated the US Constitution, according to the SCOTUS.
Let's not forget that it was your beloved DNC that said C-19 was fake, then they blamed Trump. It was all political theater.
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@bi4smooth You are just lying. The facts are in.
Sydney Australia reported last week 141 people hospitalized with Covid, 140 were vaccinated.
Israel reported that 95% of the hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
Norway reported that 500 hospitalizations were all already vaccinated.
Singapore reported that 85% of hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
And these are the most vaccinated places on Earth. The same goes for Iceland and the State of Maine, the most vaccinated State in the US. You either are totally ignorant of the actual facts or you're just lying.I think if you don't acknowledge these facts, you're just lying. You just don't know what you're talking about. Even if this virus does exist, the "experts" have claimed from the beginning that only .26% who CAN be infected (not the young) die. That's not a pandemic. That's just bullshit. More people die every year of tuberculosis, x1000 in fact. You acting like this is so doom and gloom and we all need to get vaccinated for something that's not even deadly is just ridiculous and theater. You are a drama queen and nobody gives a shit. You can take that jab and stick it right up your ass.
Not to mention Big Pharma is posting billions in profits. While small business suffers. They wouldn't lie! Get real. They have lied and been sued in court for billions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you had stock in these companies. they do not care about you or your family. They are not run by scientists. They are rum by corporate boards that only care about money. Quit being a dimwit cheerleader for those kinds of people.
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@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
@bi4smooth You are just lying. The facts are in.
Sydney Australia reported last week 141 people hospitalized with Covid, 140 were vaccinated.
Israel reported that 95% of the hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
Norway reported that 500 hospitalizations were all already vaccinated.
Singapore reported that 85% of hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
And these are the most vaccinated places on Earth. The same goes for Iceland and the State of Maine, the most vaccinated State in the US. You either are totally ignorant of the actual facts or you're just lying.I think if you don't acknowledge these facts, you're just lying. You just don't know what you're talking about. Even if this virus does exist, the "experts" have claimed from the beginning that only .26% who CAN be infected (not the young) die. That's not a pandemic. That's just bullshit. More people die every year of tuberculosis, x1000 in fact. You acting like this is so doom and gloom and we all need to get vaccinated for something that's not even deadly is just ridiculous and theater. You are a drama queen and nobody gives a shit. You can take that jab and stick it right up your ass.
Not to mention Big Pharma is posting billions in profits. While small business suffers. They wouldn't lie! Get real. They have lied and been sued in court for billions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you had stock in these companies. they do not care about you or your family. They are not run by scientists. They are rum by corporate boards that only care about money. Quit being a dimwit cheerleader for those kinds of people.
Yup - The US health infrastructure is lying about the makeup of their ER's. If you look PAST the news reports, the ER's are empty and the ICUs are too... no COVID here really, it's just a SCAM to make money.
Really?
I don't know about other countries, but the 3 vaccines in the US are all purchased by the US Government. They funded the research (under the Trump Administration), and part of the funding agreements is this little clause: the US Government gets to buy all the vaccine it wants - AT COST. (Trump DOES know how to structure a contract for his own benefit!)
Maybe now you understand why the stock prices of Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J haven't gone through the roof!
As i stated in another thread: I'm tired of arguing about the politics here. This shouldn't be political, it should be medical.
Test or don't
Mask or don't
Vaccinate or don'tChoose the wrong one, and you will likely get sick and you may even DIE.
Go 3 for 3 and you've got a really good chance to not die.Those who are dying in the US are nearly-all un-vaccinated. While they aren't polling, they stastically are mostly Republican voters.
Continuing to fight this politically... is political suicide for Republicans! not for political reasons, but for population reasons.... MATH reasons.
Mitch McConnell held a press conference and urged EVERYONE to get vaccinated!
Republican Governors are telling anti-vaxxers "You're the problem - this is your fault" (clearly not my Governor - Florida's Governor thinks this will all blow over... He's a moron, and despite his being a Republican, he deserves to lose next November) -
Umm, your party has made it political.
Mayor Beetlejuice is "kicking it" with celebs, unmasked while demanding that everyone else wear masks. Well, unless they want to riot and loot under the banner of BLM and Antifa, that is. If they want to peacefully protest against the mask mandates and lockdowns, your beloved police get out the heavy gear to crush the dissent.
DNC mayors, Govs, etc across the country are doing the same kinds of shit. DC's mayor did that massive unmasked wedding.
Your queen bee, Pelosi, while screeching about lockdowns and mask mandates sneaks off to get her hair done. Once caught, she claims she was tricked by the salon into doing it and she is 3rd in line to run the country.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin, and countless other Dems have been photoed/videoed wearing the World Economic Forum's "Build Back Better" lapel pin. They have even made speeches in front of the BBB banner.
You see similar things across Europe, as well.
Covid-19 is purely political across the globe.
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@bi4smooth At this point I can conclude that you're just outright lying. The numbers are in, and in ALL the places where you have the highest vaccination rates, you have hospitalizations that range from 85-99% vaccinated. I personally know people who have been vaccinated and in the hospital for Covid right now. It is not the unvaxxed who are even getting sick because of natural immunity. Its just an outright lie. These are state department reports. Today in Israel they just reported 95% of hospitalizations are vaccinated. Stop lying. We were right, you were wrong. Trust the science you guys said. Yea right - you guys were guinea pigs and now you're fooked and you just can't swallow that pill. You made a deadly mistake. Life isn't a video game - you only get one chance. This is about totalitarian fascist mark of the beast control (passports). Wake up!
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@raphjd said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
Umm, your party has made it political.
Mayor Beetlejuice is "kicking it" with celebs, unmasked while demanding that everyone else wear masks. Well, unless they want to riot and loot under the banner of BLM and Antifa, that is. If they want to peacefully protest against the mask mandates and lockdowns, your beloved police get out the heavy gear to crush the dissent.
DNC mayors, Govs, etc across the country are doing the same kinds of shit. DC's mayor did that massive unmasked wedding.
Your queen bee, Pelosi, while screeching about lockdowns and mask mandates sneaks off to get her hair done. Once caught, she claims she was tricked by the salon into doing it and she is 3rd in line to run the country.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin, and countless other Dems have been photoed/videoed wearing the World Economic Forum's "Build Back Better" lapel pin. They have even made speeches in front of the BBB banner.
You see similar things across Europe, as well.
Covid-19 is purely political across the globe.
As a Fascist, NAZI, Trumpite, you have a predictably infantile knowledge about parts of the world that are not English-speaking! (For the record: I am no more a Democrat than you are a NAZI - but so long as we're slinging "extremist" labels...)
To be clear: The US is the origin of the politicization of modern medicine & more importantly public health. That "poison" has affected other countries - but mostly (though, certainly not limited to) English-speaking ones.
But many countries have avoided this poison: S. Korea, Japan (trying to avoid the Communist/Milary-controlled governments here - that's not fair: they don't fight against the Gov't because doing so is usually lethal), New Zealand, large swaths of Africa, and most of Northern & Eastern Europe - all have no significant political in-fighting about vaccines (except getting them faster) or masks.
We (Americans) are the stupid ones making this a political thing
And we are infecting the rest of the world with our stupidity...
So I'll say it again:
- Wear masks, or don't...
- Get a vaccine, or don't...
- either way, you are participating in a Darwin-esque change (edit) to the Human Genome... and removing the genes of the incredibly gullible and otherwise stupid from the Human Genome shouldn't be considered all bad...
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Umm, it was the WHO and China that played politics. Maybe you were too busy in Chinatown with Pelosi back then.
It's still strange that you claim to be a libertarian, yet you demand hivemind crap.
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@raphjd said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
Umm, it was the WHO and China that played politics. Maybe you were too busy in Chinatown with Pelosi back then.
It's still strange that you claim to be a libertarian, yet you demand hivemind crap.
LOL - hivemind is what you propose, with your deep state conspiracies! (As-if all 2.2 million Federal Employees are united in their opposition to your wacky ideas! The truth is, there are 2.2 million unique minds in the US Federal Employment database... and about the same ratio are Democrat/Republican as the nation is divided as a whole.)
If actual Governments (of all kinds) were only HALF as competent as you propose the deep state is, there would be no hunger in this world - and no freedom (Governments - of all kinds, even Democracies - are tools to control people).
In the REAL WORLD Governments are inherently, and incurably incompetent. To find a Government that is not, is to find a Government so small as to be insignificant.
Does that mean we shouldn't expect more? no... just that we shouldn't be surprised when Governments do dumb things...
And, more importantly, while not always the case, certainly it is usually the case that when Governments do dumb things, it's due to incompetence and mismanagement, not conspiracies....
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Today Germany's Chief Pathologist reported that 30-40% of the nation's deaths are occurring in the vaccinated. That's 30-40% of people dying in Germany right now, are dying FROM the vaccination, not heart disease, not TB, not cancer, not obesity... over 1/3rd of the nation's deaths are happening in the Vaccinated. So we can add Germany to the list. Are you getting nervous yet?
Also in the news today, a former Pfizer employee who worked with the executives in the company quit, and came out with documents showing that the vaccine is in fact a bioweapon. You don't know any of this stuff because you're not watching the real news.
https://banned.video/watch?id=610b15ec4b401c2c26621b15
You. Don't. Know. What. You. Are. Talking. About.
And yes, the Democrats are making it political. They want a permanent lockdown, and a passport so they can tell you that if you don't get their deadly vaccine, you don't get to buy or sell, you don't even get to get on the bus. That is identical to the Mark of the Beast. Makes sense, as Bill Gates' vaccine patent #060606 hooks you up to the grid through 5g. It's not a conspiracy, it's an actual patent. Wake up! Stop being a dummy. We're not taking the jab. When it has a 99.7-9% survival rate. It's stupid! There is no reason to worry about "Covid" (the common cold).
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@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
Today Germany's Chief Pathologist reported that 30-40% of the nation's deaths are occurring in the vaccinated. That's 30-40% of people dying in Germany right now, are dying FROM the vaccination, not heart disease, not TB, not cancer, not obesity... over 1/3rd of the nation's deaths are happening in the Vaccinated. So we can add Germany to the list. Are you getting nervous yet?
Also in the news today, a former Pfizer employee who worked with the executives in the company quit, and came out with documents showing that the vaccine is in fact a bioweapon. You don't know any of this stuff because you're not watching the real news.
https://banned.video/watch?id=610b15ec4b401c2c26621b15
You. Don't. Know. What. You. Are. Talking. About.
And yes, the Democrats are making it political. They want a permanent lockdown, and a passport so they can tell you that if you don't get their deadly vaccine, you don't get to buy or sell, you don't even get to get on the bus. That is identical to the Mark of the Beast. Makes sense, as Bill Gates' vaccine patent #060606 hooks you up to the grid through 5g. It's not a conspiracy, it's an actual patent. Wake up! Stop being a dummy. We're not taking the jab. When it has a 99.7-9% survival rate. It's stupid! There is no reason to worry about "Covid" (the common cold).
You're an idiot. Plain and simple.
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@bi4smooth No, you're an idiot. These are NUMBERS. By NATIONS. Official. You cannot answer. All you can say is, "you're an idiot." Germany says over 1/3rd of it's deaths are from VACCINATED people. Period. To ignore that means you are a shill. That's all.
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@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
@bi4smooth No, you're an idiot. These are NUMBERS. By NATIONS. Official. You cannot answer. All you can say is, "you're an idiot." Germany says over 1/3rd of it's deaths are from VACCINATED people. Period. To ignore that means you are a shill. That's all.
The idiocy isn't from the numbers... (which I do not accept as factual)... nah, you're entitled to accept other people's made-up "facts"... and your believing them doesn't make you an idiot (gullible, perhaps, but not necessarily stupid...)
No, the proof of your idiocy comes from your absurd conclusion that they're actually dying of the vaccine.
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@bi4smooth Oh. Right. Right. The CHIEF PATHOLOGIST in GERMANY, says that over 1/3rd of the deaths experienced in recent days and weeks are occurring in the VACCINATED. The VACCINATED are dying. And you act like you're superior to the CHIEF PATHOLOGIST in GERMANY. Shut your mouth! You don't know what you're talking about! You're a liar. Go to hell. And stick that experimental jab up your ass you fucking liar! Like that guy is just making up numbers... Seriously!? You're so delusional at this point it's just pathetic. You were WRONG. Now you know...
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@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
@bi4smooth Oh. Right. Right. The CHIEF PATHOLOGIST in GERMANY, says that over 1/3rd of the deaths experienced in recent days and weeks are occurring in the VACCINATED. The VACCINATED are dying. And you act like you're superior to the CHIEF PATHOLOGIST in GERMANY. Shut your mouth! You don't know what you're talking about! You're a liar. Go to hell. And stick that experimental jab up your ass you fucking liar! Like that guy is just making up numbers... Seriously!? You're so delusional at this point it's just pathetic. You were WRONG. Now you know...
You lunatic-fringe moron....
According to your own statistics, people in Germany that are vaccinated are not dying BECAUSE OF the COVID-19 vaccine, but rather IN SPITE OF the vaccine... and the medical authorities are saying that IN SUPPORT OF asking people to mask-up again!
I repeat: your intelligence (and ability to read and comprehend what you read) approaches that of a 1st Grader...
Fun with Dick & Jane:
See Dick run... See Jane run... how many people are running in the picture?
No, the picture with just 2 people in it, both of whom are running... how many people are running in the picture?Oh, nevermind....
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@bi4smooth No Dum Dum. The Chief Pathologist in Germany said that 1/3 of the deaths in Germany are in vaccinated people. That's what he said. He's the Chief Pathologist. I guess you missed that part. Or how severe it is. I think the old adage "you can't handle the truth" is the truth here. You're just too fucking stupid too get it.
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@manhandler said in Voter Suppression - a new twist:
@bi4smooth No Dum Dum. The Chief Pathologist in Germany said that 1/3 of the deaths in Germany are in vaccinated people. That's what he said. He's the Chief Pathologist. I guess you missed that part. Or how severe it is. I think the old adage "you can't handle the truth" is the truth here. You're just too fucking stupid too get it.
Ummm.... let's spell this out - in FIRST GRADE terms so you can see:
If 1/3 of the COVID-19 deaths in Germany are in people who have been vaccinated, what would that tell you about the other 2/3 of the COVID-19 deaths in Germany/
| You have 3 apples:
- 2 are RED (representing people who died of COVID-19 WITHOUT a vaccine)
- 1 is Golden (yellowish) (representing people who dies of COVID-19 even WITH a vaccine)
Test Questions:
- Did the vaccine turn the one apple yellow?
- Did the vaccine turn the orange INTO an apple?
- Would eating any of the apples turn you into a computer?
Now, here's a 2nd Grade question: What is the RATIO of RED apples to GOLDEN ones?
And an even HARDER, 4th Grade question: From the data provided, does having the vaccine alter your odds of dying from COVID-19?
Answers:
- no, the vaccine did not alter the apple colors - the apples are just representations
- no, the vaccine did not change the nature of the apples
- no, there is nothing you could eat, drink, or even DO to turn you into a computer - this isn't Star Trek!
- There are TWICE the number of RED apples (dead people who WERE NOT vaccinated) as there are GOLDEN apples (dead people who WERE vaccinated)
- The odds of dying of COVID-19 are DOUBLED if you are NOT vaccinated
I'm sorry, but from your earlier posts, it appears that you will need to attend summer school - for the next decade - to catch up.
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@bi4smooth You're dumb. 95% of Covid hospitalizations are vaccinated. 5% are not. Let's go back to kindergarten math, k?