Posts made by raphjd

Sorry, but disagreeing with what you call "derailing" and "deflection" isn't being uncivil.

Any response you don't like is "derailing" and/or "deflection".

Here's an example of a conversation (I've used them before);

You; Jeffery Dahmer is the only serial killer to target males.

Me; Umm, John Wayne Gacy and others have to.

You; STOP DERAILING!!!  We're only talking about Jeffery Dahmer.

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You;  Trump is a racist.  You support a racist.

Me; Hillary openly admits she worships at least 3 well known racists.  You support a racist.

You; STOP DERAILING!!!  We're only talking about Trump.

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I don't think it's just 'leftists' with a concerted campaign of destroying the reputations of their enemies

I've already talked about this, countless times.

It's a tit for tat situation.

HOWEVER,  it's the leftists that are claiming that they have the moral high ground, while still manipulating the approval system.    You can't be on the moral high ground when you yourself is doing the "evil" things you are complaining about.

Leftists are still blindly downvoting their enemies.    How is that "civil"?

I guess the leftists support the demands, but are too embarrassed to admit it.

Of course, they support everyone else giving up their shit, but they never would.

I love watching multi billionaires, like Sir Richard Branson, coming on tv begging people to donate to charity.  Or in this case, rich black people demanding that whites give up their stuff and give it to blacks.

Secret voting doesn't allow the people to know how their politico voted.

One of the things that really piss me off about NASA is that they hide tech that could benefit humanity.

They should put everything, excluding the very few things that absolutely need secrecy, into the public domain.  They could patent the tech and sell/lease the rights to recoup the money.

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Back on topic.

NASA never cared about maintaining stuff because since Kennedy, Presidents have been flooding them with cash.

The oil industry spends BILLIONS to maintain their old data.  I've been to warehouse complexes where they have binders with paper data stored.  There are warehouses that have the old reel to reel tapes being stored.    Even warehouses with normal hard drives being stored.

In the UK, it used to be that you got a new IP address every time you logged on to the internet.    You had to pay double or more to get a static one.

Now pretty much everyone has a static one, except when they are using hotspots and whatnot.

I switched my provider to one that provided free static IP addresses about 8 years ago.  About 4 years ago, static became the standard.  I don't know of any that offer dynamic still.

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@raphjd:

As far as I know, Trump didn't say that there are some good racists.

You're going off of "as far as you know" while I'm going off of the actual words that came out of his mouth on LIVE TV.

Now back to the point of this thread, can we come to an agreement that direct attempts at deflection and/or derailment should be an automatic admission of a failed argument? Can we also come to an agreement that mass spam posting about Harvard cancer study conspiracy theories or other things that have absolutely NOTHING to do with politics be moved to other sections? We should work toward some sort of mutual conclusion so that this civility thread can finally be closed.

I have seen videos of Trump speaking on recent events and I have not seen him say that there are good racists.    He said that there are good people on both sides; left vs right.

Please provide a link to him saying that racists are good.

Also, Hillary said that anyone who didn't vote for her was "deplorable".

Battery acid kills e-coli.

Maybe everyone needs to drink battery acid with every meal to prevent getting e-coli.

What I find idiotic and hypocritical, is that the US must have an open border, but no one says anything about Mexico's far harsher immigration policies.

You know, burn the American flag because it has softer immigration rules than Mexico, but don't burn the Mexican flag.

Calling Trump a racist, fully justifies pointing out that the person you voted for (Hillary) worships at least 3 known racists.

As far as I know, Trump didn't say that there are some good racists.  He said that there are some good people on both sides; left vs right.

I think the main problem with the left is that they think that their violence is always justified.

When Richard Spencer got sucker punched, the left exploded with "punch a Nazi" justification tweets, posts, videos and whatnot.

Yvette Felarca and Eric Clanton  have plead not guilty in their separate assault cases.  Eric Clanton is claiming it wasn't him, but if it was him, he was justified under "self defence".    Yvette Felarca is using "self defence" as well.    Neither are claiming, at least not currently, that they were victims of physical violence.  They are claiming that they were victims of "thought violence", so they had to fight back physically.

Democrat mayors are telling the police to stand down, then arresting mainly those on the right.

Charlottesville was a disaster because of the situation caused by the mayor and police.    The police forced the right to go through the leftist crowd.  Of course this caused problems.  The police used the violence to justify calling it an unlawful assembly by the right.

Why is it that the left never seems to see their own actions as violent?

I watched a YouTube video of CNN's Chris Cuomo interviewing Simone Sanders (yeah, that vile bitch) and some other black women, who is also a lawyer.  The woman who's name I don't remember was trying to say that for a few years now, the left has been extremely violent.

Anyway, they were discussing the recent violence at Charlottesville and others.    The 2 leftists couldn't see that anything their side did, even smashing people over the head with bike locks, as violence.

Not even pouring piss on reporters is violence.

Using "bear bane" on people and their dogs (which is illegal in the US, BTW) isn't violence, even when the victims had nothing to do with the event.

The left sees everything as violence when it comes from the right, but they never see any of their actions as violent.

How can I respect you, if you refuse to admit that things like Eric Clanton caught on video smashing at least 7 (believed to be more but video isn't clear enough) people over the head with a bike lock?  He clearly aimed for the head in at least a few of the attacks.

Simone Sanders is a white hating, race baiting cunt so I expect shit like this from her.  Chris Cuomo, on the other hand, always seemed more to the center.    It's not just these 2.  It's everywhere you look, the left either defend their violence or claim it doesn't happen.

Rather than list everything out,  I'll just paraphrase;

"If you'se a honkey, give all yo shit to a black person."

There are 10 or so demands, but it all amounts to the bit above.

Earlier this year, there was that group that told cracker men to quit their jobs so blacks could have them.  I couldn't believe that bitch kept a straight face throughout the video.

There's a group calling for free college for non whites.  Even illegal non whites would get free college.

Apparently, if a white person uses a meme of a black person, such as the one of Michael Jackson eating popcorn in Thriller, they are guilty of digital blackface.

The funny thing, though, is that one of the women being interviewed said it was ok for non whites to do what I call "digital whiteface".

Franny from MTV Decoded (I just puked in my mouth) frequently does "whiteface" in the same vein as the old blackface shows.  It's nothing more than a putdown of whites, but she's allowed because she's black and making fun of whites.

Where's the social justice and equality in that?

It seems that social justice and equality, for the last 15+ years, has been about being anti white and spoilt brats.

Clearly,  obesity rates vs Obama is derailing.

Obama is a race baiter.  That is fact.   He yammers on about hate crimes, even when the incident wasn't one, while ignoring ones that blatantly were hate crimes.    Like most blacks on the left and at least half the whites on the left, Obama believes that only whites can commit hate crimes.    He kept up the proven lie "hands up, don't shoot".  He sent 100 FBI agents to Ferguson and they proved that it was a lie and the usual race baiters refused to admit it was a lie.   Even Sheila Jackson Lee, my congresswoman that I have voted for the last 24 years still maintains that lie, as do most of the other notorious race baiters in congress.

Not surprisingly, these are the very same people who maintain the feminist lies.   77c on the dollar crap is clearly debunked by the Dept of Labor's own stats.   FBI stats debunk college rape claims.

India is where most scams (especially telemarketing) in the UK come from.

India call centers are where most of your details get sold off.  This is why EU businesses are bringing their call centers back to the EU.

Umm, 2 + 2 = gender fluid

Derailment!!!  :cool2:

During the Obama regime, the NSA grew tremendously.

Obama completely lied to voters.  He promised to end all the GWB spying on US citizens.  He expanded it far beyond what GWB envisioned, according to an interview with GWB after Obama's 2nd election.

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Back on topic, most mainstream social media actively promotes leftist speech, while hiding/banning righties speech.

Patreon banned Lauren Southern with no appeal.  Patreon took the money in her account and gave it to Antifa groups.  When it came out, Patreon made some extremely pathetic excuses/justifications.

I don't care about valid downvoting, have at it.

What I was talking about is leftists blindly and rabidly following their enemies around the forums so they could downvote everything they posted.    The leftists didn't care what was posted, just who posted it.

In another section, a leftist mentioned something that I hadn't seen.  The leftist gave me a link and I thanked him.    Both of us got flooded with downvotes.  Similar thing happened to you when you left the leftist mindhive and condemned the violence on both sides.

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Deflection/Derailment

As I said somewhere else, screaming "deflection/derailment" at everything is just a way to stop a discussion you don't want to have.

During Obama, righties said some stupid shit about Obama and leftists didn't like it.

Now leftists are saying stupid shit about Trump and righties don't like it.

According to you, I can't mention the hypocrisy of the situation.    We're only allowed to talk about how evil and whatever about Trump.