Posts made by Minerboh80

@nordicblue:

You have been the only one making personal attacks.  I posted general news that is completely true.  Germany and "responsible" countries have bailed out "irresponsible" ones.  Responsible being the keyword here.  Why is it that the UK, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Belgium and the Netherlands are doing well, while Spain, Greece, Portugal and Cyprus flounder and spend themselves into an apparent oblivion of tax debt set at 170%+ of their GDP.  If you think Greece deserves to do this, why don't you pay my tax bill when I abscond with funds.  I didn't think so.  This shouldn't have to happen.  I don't know why you are standing up for the politicians who have apparently robbed you blind.  The taxpayers of these responsible countries pay high taxes, have much fewer government funded amenities than Greece and have a higher retirement age to boot.  That is what is takes to finance them.  They especially do not enjoy having their tax dollars rerouting to foreign countries who do not know how easy they had it.

You were the one who  downlooked the efforts of Greece.
And in every thread you have saw a reply of mine you have replied with a sarcastic manner. I simply talked back in the same manner.
So you should reconsider the whole ''personal attack'' thing.

Still waiting for it.

@raphjd:

@Minerboh80:

Possibly. I do remember other events though and i could mention them but out of respect to my fellow German users, i won't.
In this forum, i prefer to see the brighter aspects of communication with other people.
I refuse to use norticblue's slimy tactics.

I don't see him being "slimy" but wanting to create discussions/debate.

We need good (emotionless) debates going on here to liven up the forums.

@myrea:

@raphjd:

I'm not against bailing others out, but I want you and other in those bailed out countries to understand that bailing you out hasn't been easy on us, when you complain about the bailout.  On various forums, I've seen people in the bailed out countries getting nasty toward the people in the countries that bailed them out.  THIS IS COMPLETELY WRONG.

My standard of living has crashed due to the UK bailing out other countries and constantly having to help top up the Euro.

I understand and empathise with your points, you are completely right in what you are saying, let me just point where those worse reactions were coming from, imagine a country like portugal who was average and not at it's best when finland actually needed support some decades ago, we gave to them the support at our own cost (like you are doing now)… this time when we needed the first help they were the stronger opposition if you remenber, so it was coming from there too, and in the case of greece and germany it's the same, greece funded germany when it was broke, they never had to pay it back... so again conflict. Surely it did not became overly dramatic and was dealt with, again it's not a hate on the people but more on the institutions, in my particular case it's a clear see-how-this-idiots-don't-have-a-clue-about-what-they-are-doing specially the bank system... the country had to sold what actually gave it profit, to follow troika guidelines... that is no way to run or help a country in the long term. A bunch of shitty short term ways to get cash to pay up by empoverishment athat helped noone, surely it made people hate furthermore... if they actually managed instead of killing inner markets to make the jobs and companies stronger and more secure and destroy the grey economics and reduce the state fat, it all would change, surely a country like mine can't have what our politics get in salaries pensions and benefits neither the whole luxury car fleet and so on... did they cut that? NO THEY MULTIPLIED. Sorry we do get your point because we felt it also, but it's so frustating to have to basically wait to get most of our political class in jail.

I think most politicians should be sent to prison for treason, for what they have done to their individual countries.  This also includes the money grubbing MEPs in the EU.

The Euro is a massive failure, which is harming the UK's economy and well being, as we have to keep bailing it out.  I'm sure it's harming most other countries that have involvement in it.

In the UK, business rates (taxes simply for existing as a business) are strangling small mom and pop sized businesses.   Major shopping areas are turning into ghost towns.  Retail property owners find they are better off tax wise keeping their shops empty, than renting them out.

He could have done that without insulting a very sensitive matter regarding my country's efforts to get out of it's economic turbulance.
He practically depicted Greece as a money sacking leech.

Ever since you practically rose your foot and stepped upon the efforts of my country to improve it's economy and you have showed openly your disgust toward Greece.
Whatever you like it, Greece is doing to fix the mistakes of the past, it's improved ever since the program first initiated and even Germany has admitted that.
Angela Merkel has expressed her acceptance for the so called grexit if the opposing political from our goverment party takes over (it is a party that has expressed their mind toward Merkel). As long as the Goverment stands, we are not going anywhere.

A warm welcome from me as well.

Possibly. I do remember other events though and i could mention them but out of respect to my fellow German users, i won't.
In this forum, i prefer to see the brighter aspects of communication with other people.
I refuse to use norticblue's slimy tactics.

We didn't had anything to do with helping Germany.
We did helped other countries.
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/08/08/greece-offers-humanitarian-aid-to-gaza-strip/

Someone just post it as torrent.

@musclejizz:

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@nordicblue:

First, no one is required to give you anything.  You don't demand respect, you earn respect.  It is not Germany's fault that the Grecian politicians are corrupt and don't seem to care about their constituents as you say.  All of the reasons that you mention are nobody else's fault.  This still doesn't change the fact that other Europeans countries should not have to foot Greece's debt bill.  It is as raphjd said.  Those European nations who were bailed out by Germany and the like should thank their lucky stars they decided to do so.  That situation could have been entirely worse had they not done so.
@raphjd:

As I previously said, I don't really know much about Spain's situation.  HOWEVER, Greece's situation has been well documented in UK news documentary shows (Panorama, Dispatches, etc).

The southern European countries that are having a hard time now had extremely early retirement ages.   Even after severe reforms, they still retire 4 years earlier than the rest of Europe.

They also had grey economies through tax avoidance on goods and services.

Job related benefits were outrageous, compared to the rest of Europe.

Despite pretty decent economic growth (prior to the global economic meltdown),  the national debt was skyrocketing.   The year before the global economic meltdown, the Greek national debt was 105% of their GDP.  Their GDP rose 4.3% but their national debt rose 7% up until the global economic meltdown.

Bailing out other countries has meant higher taxes and service cuts for the countries that had to do the bailing out, yet the countries that got bailed out are angry with those that saved them.

All of these things are direct benefits of the people of these countries.   This is why you won't see much pity from the people in the rest of Europe.

Oh, please, my ''dear'' one. Don't be so obvious.
I got the point that you don't like Greece.
The greeks have earned the right for some respect because they are trying to correct the mistakes of the past.
Even Merkell has admitted that. She said it herself.
Now, if you do not respect the fact that we are trying, then you are not anymore ''right'' than the ones you try to downgrade.
I didn't ''demand'' anything, i simply asked. There is a major difference between asking and demand. You can't see it?
How about you that you? You are demading from the rest of the users to have a negative point of view for poor countries, especially Greece.
Let me tell you, whatever you believe it or not, that not all Greeks are corrupted or lazy or money shacking leeches that you try so desperately to pass us by.
These countries decided to show th better part of themselves when they decided to help us, Greece helped many times, in WW2, in humanitarian crises and others.
Tell me, nordicblue, what does make you when you are trying to downgrade the efforts all the greek citizens have made these past years?

Thank you and let me wish you whatever you desire to become a reality.

@raphjd:

@myrea:

I'll had that the overlook on the paralel economics and the corruption is startling, the people should not been paying or called lazy for the bad management… this countries are under a strict policial circle, the political class knows that the people hates them.

As I previously said, I don't really know much about Spain's situation.  HOWEVER, Greece's situation has been well documented in UK news documentary shows (Panorama, Dispatches, etc).

The southern European countries that are having a hard time now had extremely early retirement ages.   Even after severe reforms, they still retire 4 years earlier than the rest of Europe.

They also had grey economies through tax avoidance on goods and services.

Job related benefits were outrageous, compared to the rest of Europe.

Despite pretty decent economic growth (prior to the global economic meltdown),  the national debt was skyrocketing.   The year before the global economic meltdown, the Greek national debt was 105% of their GDP.  Their GDP rose 4.3% but their national debt rose 7% up until the global economic meltdown.

Bailing out other countries has meant higher taxes and service cuts for the countries that had to do the bailing out, yet the countries that got bailed out are angry with those that saved them.

All of these things are direct benefits of the people of these countries.   This is why you won't see much pity from the people in the rest of Europe.

What are you stating is true but that is for the old generation of greeks.
The current generation, the one I live, has to face the sins of the older generation in every conceivable way.
I am a nurse and our health system suffers from the lack of financial resources, we are working overtime which we are not paid. The stuff also suffers from the lack of personell. Weare paying our taxes, the low citizens that is, we are paying our bills. And let's not touch the subject of unemployment. Many of us have degrees and diplomas only to decorate the walls of our houses.
For this generation of greeks, a small amount of respect must be shown.
We are trying and i think it is pretty unfair to blame this generation for the sins of the old.

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@eaglevision:

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@jrsite55:

Some sportist guys… Cristiano Ronaldo would be wonderful lol

Do you really want that?

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Yeah! Paper Mario was an entertaining game.