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My question is : why doesn't the tracker wait for an acknowledgment from client "B" (like the "thanks mate" found in 1st pic), before it registers client B as downloading ?
Easy answer: the BitTorrent protocol does not require (or tolerate) an acknowledgement of such a first contact.
@Uwe:
Hallo,
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Fresh Buddies > http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=56024 hat zur Zeit keine Seeder, aber es scheinen noch einige ab und zu da zu sein. Habe mal eine Re-seed Anfrage geklickt. Nun solltest Du aber auch saugen.
Uwe
Der Film hat leider nur eine "missing torrent file" Meldung beim Versuch den torrent zu laden 
Let me guess: #8 (brutos10352) What did the brute do with kinsey6 (if I recognize his head correctly) in the water???
Tim - you need help before you drown??? Just holler 
@blackdid: please save your SBP for the next round - I have more than enough of them - alas I don't have the time to start a new SBP game in the German forum :cry2: Although I had fun and appreciate your offer :hug2:
I see some problems in "10 Commandments of GayTorrent.ru"
the different parts (accounts, forum, torrents …) are mixed together.
If someone is able (and, more important: willing) to create a structured plan how this page (and the linked follow-up pages) have to be structured: I'm open for discussions but I need active help beside my daily work load on the site to manage such an ambitious task.
as much as I like guides with pictures: those guides (for example creating a torrent) are rather problematic: I can't create such a pictured guide for Vuze because I use uTorrent myself (and installed Azureus (now Vuze) only once because I had to reformat my hard drive to remove all remnants of Azureus after un-installing the software ) - and another question has to be answered too: for which clients have we to write such guides?
The number of users who have a look at our offered help files is more than discouraging! (Take as an example the pictured guide how to search for duplicate torrents before uploading only 39 out of currently 268 members with auto approval privilege really read that guide :cry2: )
But as I said before: I'd be glad if some members would help with a redesign of our collected help informations which are in fact way too wide spread over the complete site.
Don't forget though: there are many members (about three quartes) who never bothered to visit our forum :cry2:
i scrolled all the way down to see no more pics? :cry2:
c'mon….
hmmm: what about the very first in this thread http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=6600.msg21743#msg21743 ???
It's not quite photoshop quality, more like ms paint
but convincing at a first glance :thankyou:
hmmm, scheint niemanden zu interessieren. Kann geclosed werden :police:
schabolowski
Hmmm - bevor der Thread geclosed wird, gib uns noch ein bischen Zeit. Ich persönlich würde mir alle wünschen[nb]als DVD und, wenn möglich auch in deutscher Sprache oder mit deutschen Untertiteln![/nb] - das bringt auch die besten Ergebnisse für Deine Ratio
Did you read the name in the first column? Might be that could switch on a lamp after you realize the meaning of that green bar
! BTW: the link would not help any other member nor staff - they won't see that green bar in this place at all
The typo I meant is caused by the class definition "rev" not being correctly defined in the css file
I agree though, all attribute values in a HTML file should be quoted - but as long as the type of our output HTML is "only" HTML 4 transitional (and not yet XHTML) the quoting is "only" a strong recommendation from W3C and all current (known to me) browsers support unquoted attribute values.
The topic Gay Interest" vs. Gay Themed: let me ask two simple questions:
I am gay, I love music from Glenn Miller. Now: Is Music from Glenn Miller of Gay Interest???
I am gay, I love the DVDs about Harry Potter. Now: Are Harry Potter videos of Gay Interest???
Regardless how you answer: My next question would be: Why?
The most important question though is: where to draw the line between Gay Interest and non Gay Interest? Unless we want to open our site for everything (and I do NOT want that) - how to decide about the gay interest of a certain movie??? We can't have rules without at least a small direction of what belongs to that category.
Not taking in account:
@thangcuoi:
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Currently, the only people interested in taking down GT is porn studio (though some prefer it to stay alive for the free advertising/promotion of their products). Gay Interest cover a very wide area. It would makes GT a bigger target for TV network, film studio, music company.
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although that is quite an important topic to think about carefully before implementing such a category. We have enough trouble with "only porn studios"
Thanks for pointing this out!
As a reason for different styles between the site and the forum: the two have completely different style sheets (.css files) located in different places so it may happen that some style definitions are different (although I tried to make the forum stylesheet definition similar to the site ones).
As to the noted links in torrent definitions: It looks like there is a typo in the class definition for those links so the correct hover definition is not applied but another one
Sadly we are currently (due to Tom's sickness) not really able to change this typo immediately.
Remarkably though: you are the first one to note that case after 4 years Thanks again (honestly) to make my to-do lists for the site longer :lovp:
Hmm - this thread develops in two directions I don't like particularly:
1st: not connectible (vs. not connected) needs some further clarification:
not connectible means: the client did (at least once) connect to our tracker, but (possibly after some time without traffic) the user-port was closed (by a security suite or a bad configured router) for incoming connections. What does that mean for a user? Let me present a (n extremely simplified) "virtual talk" between involved parties when up/downloading torrents. Remember though: this "talk" only starts after the approval process is finished and the torrent is available to all members and the torrent is seeding:
tasks printed in blue are like directions or talk of the narrator
Case 1: all Clients are connectible!
| Client A | Our tracker | Client B |
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| I have a new torrent "X" ready for others | –> | | | |
| | <– | OK fine with me, registered
(registers Client A as seeding) | | |
| | | | <– | I wanna download torrent "x" |
| | | OK - here is the IP of client A, he has parts for you
(registers Client B as downloading) | –> | (thanks mate) |
| | <– | –- | –- | Hi you , it's me, Client B, - I wanna have a part of Torrent "x" |
| Glad to meet you, here enjoy | –- | –- | –> | (saves the sent part) |
| | <– | –- | –- | hmm - looks good - I'd like some more |
| Greedy guy, here enjoy | –- | –- | –> | (again saves the next sent part) |
| (this dialogue continues) | <–- | –- | –> | (three guesses what Client B does with the sent parts) |
| (after around 30 minutes) | <– | Hi Client A - what about torrent "x"? | | |
| Hi, nice to meet you again, tracker - Here are my stats about that torrent: | –> | (saves stats for Client A and torrent "x") | | |
| | | Hi Client B - what about torrent "x"? | –> | |
| | | (saves stats for Client B and torrent "x") | <– | Hi, nice to meet you again, tracker - Here are my stats about that torrent: |
| (the talk goes on until the complete data file is transferred) | | | | |
Case 2a: Client B is "not connectible", incoming traffic on the torrent port of client B is blocked completely:
| Client A | Our tracker | Client B |
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| I have a new torrent "X" ready for others | –> | | | |
| | <– | OK fine with me
(registers Client A as seeding) | | |
| | | | <– | I wanna download data from torrent "x" |
| | | OK - here is the IP of client A, he has parts for you
(registers Client B as downloading) | blocked | (wonders why no answer from the tracker) |
| (after around 30 minutes) | <– | Hi Client A - what about torrent "x"? | | |
| Hi, nice to meet you again, tracker - Here are my (empty) stats about that torrent: | –> | (saves stats for Client A and torrent "x") | | |
| | | Hi Client B - what about torrent "x"? | blocked | |
| | | (gets no answer and marks Client B as not connectible) | | |
Case 2b: Client B gets "not connectible", incoming traffic on the torrent port of client B is blocked after some time without outgoing traffic on that very port:
| Client A | Our tracker | Client B |
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| I have a new torrent "X" ready for others | –> | | | |
| | <– | OK fine with me, registered
(register Client A as seeding) | | |
| | | | <– | I wanna download data from torrent "x" |
| | | OK - here is the IP of client A, he has parts for you
(registers Client B as downloading) | –> | (thanks mate) |
| | <– | –- | –- | Hi you , it's me, Client B, - I wanna have a part of Torrent "x" |
| Glad to meet you, here enjoy | –- | –- | –> | (saves the sent part) |
| | <– | –- | –- | hmm - looks good - I'd like some more |
| Greedy guy, here enjoy | –- | –- | blocked | (waits for the new part without success) |
| (after around 30 minutes) | <– | Hi Client A - what about torrent "x"? | | |
| Hi, nice to meet you again, tracker - Here are my stats about that torrent: | –> | (saves stats for Client A and torrent "x") | | |
| | | Hi Client B - what about torrent "x"? | blocked | |
| | | (gets no answer and marks Client B as not connectible) | | |
2nd: UPnP
As good as UPnP can help you get "unwilling" equipment to open ports: there is a hidden danger in using UPnP though: If you catch a malware program one way or another that program is able to silently open a port for its own use by using UPnP system-calls, not only in your firewall but also in your router for outgoing and incoming traffic which enables this "pilot" malware to download a really harmful program to your computer without the knowledge of your router, your "security system" / firewall and, worst, your own knowledge!!!
I admit it is easy to use UPnP to open ports in your equipment - but be sure to log such attempts (if at all possible) and watch that log carefully!
I recommend though to have at least one secure "last barrier" which will not react on UPnP and handle that barrier (in my case my external router to the internet) manually. Call my paranoid, but I'm very cautious about the security of my LAN - that pays off too - I had several intrusion attempts in the last couple of years but I always could delete the regarding software without harm being done
Thanks to pointing out what I preach since ages!
Just a short remark: You get [desc=Seed Bonus point]SBP[/desc] for just seeding, not for a torrent. You do not get more SBP for seeding several torrents at once (like the often asked question: I seeded 20[0…] torrents at a time, why don't I get more SBP?). The SBP do only count for your seeding time, regardless of the # of torrents you seed!
That minimum size of an upload is several times described in the Rules, FAQ, Upload Guide. I can only recommend to read a bit more abut the basic rules and tips for uploading. I guess the most helpful thing is for a new uploader to read is our upload guide!
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I'm curious and really would like to know WHEN did GT start ?
LOL you got the first support thread of our (old) forum software. But the site started only some months earlier, early in 2006. We don't have an exact date though any longer - so we set the 1st April as GayTorrent.ru's birthday (nope, no april joke ). At least that is the date where we tried to have a birthday party in the last years
Btw, Admins were very tasty in their movies choice when they embedded the logo : I remember how much I like(d) the kind of movies they embedded, thinking each time I saw a new one : "What? Gaytorrent.ru AGAIN ! Those guys are GREAT !!!"
Thanks. I found that logo in the German version of QaF and was really surprised how many episodes I found on the net (those years ago) with that embedded logo. It also shows, that this kind of advertising was a good idea - it brought the idea to learn about torrents and get the videos directly from the site (and I'm still proud that I can now say: "our site").
Though it's very hard, today, to imagine GT without you in it…
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Now we want Tom back and read his posts again !
Christmas is coming soon…let's hope he'll be back on december 25th...or before
currently we can't give any reliable date for Tom's recovery
and there are a lot of members (mostly staff though) waiting for Tom too - we all miss him badly
Your upload looks ok at a first glance - only thing: you to start seeding it so it can be approved from our staff and afterwards seen by other members.
Without you seeding the torrent we can not approve it
Have a look at our Quick Torrent Maker (a pictured guide is in this thread)! QTM will create a torrent file and upload your pictures/description automatically to our tracker. The only thing remaining for you: seed, seed, seed. When you are finished seeding: seed some more
As amice already told: we can see such cases, but we can't (technically) act against those cases. We admins talked a lot about that problem in the past and still need a good idea how to stop this "jumping on"[nb]definition of "jumping on" for such cases: the user has the same content from somewhere else and only reloads the torrent file from our site and immediately starts seeding the uploaded file himself. That is especially harmful for the original uploader if the "jump-on-user" uses a connection with a high upload bandwidth like a dedicated server based seed box[/nb] on fresh uploads.
We could possibly establish a rule that "jumping on" a new upload is at least "frowned upon", but the only measure we can take (at the moment) is to PM that user and ask him to give the original uploader a chance to increase his ratio by his upload - in case he does not react we could give him a system warning and, as a last measure, ban his account - but that is not really what we want to achieve: we can only appeal to the member and ask him to be fair
In case we can establish a technical way to stop a seeding peer (something the BitTorrent protocol has not implemented) we hopefully can stop such unfair behavior technically - but there is a long way to go
Other questions have still to be discussed too: what about a member which rented a seed-box only for a month to raise his ratio (which needs a push urgently) himself?
Bottom line (for me at least): As long as there is no technical possibility against jumping on new uploads we can only hope (and do everything possible to achieve that goal) that our site keeps all members an impression of "fairness" towards all other members. I hope you all can see these efforts from our side also in our rules.
strange ways movies travel around the net - read more in my answer in blackdid's cited topic
and about your question about visible advertising in uploaded videos: it has not been an issue for a discussion in our staff up to now - and I'm note really sure to open that can of worms myself - regarding the fact that we did something like that some years ago ourself (but not right now any longer). So (from the past) we can't forbid something we did ourselves - unless you want us to ban all of our staff because breaking such a rule
Although: my personal opinion: I hate advertising in general (even in TV), even more so for pay-sites (but that is just my personal opinion).
The question is : why does this privacy level appear unchecked in the pic ?
Shouldn't it be checked on "Normal" or "Low" or "Strong" ?
There you see the visual part of our security bug
Couldn't this unchecked button ("Privacy Level") be related to the known bug of new account created and hidden because they are mysteriously created with a checked "Strong Privacy Level" (3rd option in the pic), according to Uwe's words in PM : " As said, Alien X account got affected by a bug, setting the account privacy already at creation to strong (he even can't change, because he isn't Power User)."
In fact if (and how) this bug shows up depends on the way you interrogate this setting in different contexts:
f.x. if ($user['privacy'] >= 1)
or if ($user['privacy'] <= 2)
or whatever the best and easiest method it is to interrogate this value in different places.
So to fix this bug (= not defined value for the radio box) is either to interrogate this value "fool proof" in every query or to rely on the correct setting (which looks easy at first because we set it ourselves and only have to check the values in a user's profile script). And there it is where the bug has to be hit: when a new profile is created to set that value to a correct state (= Normal). A repair run over the database is not really difficult for existing accounts, but doing so without the correct setting when creating a new account dos not make any sense :(.
